How in the fuck was I supposed to know that a second gargoyle would just show up out of nowhere and one shot me with fire breath from behind?
>>342870449
Because cutscene shows 2 gargoyles waking up.
You weren't. It was supposed to be somewhat of a suprise.
>>342870449
You have plenty of time to look around and react after the second health bar shows up.
>>342870449
Because the health bar pops up?
You were supposed to play Demon's Souls first and have been experienced enough to take it in stride
>>342870449
You're not supposed to know, you're supposed to die to figure it out. That's the whole premise of the game, you have to die to learn what's going to happen next.
>>342870925
The first gargoyle never shot any fire at me. I wasnt expecting the second one to just pull that bullshit out of its ass suddenly.
>>342870932
You can always tell if someone hasn't played DeS before DaS by whether or not they complain about the Gargoyles.
>>342871014
Forcing the player into situations where they will almost certainly die on their first attempt just to teach them something is horrible game design.
>>342871014
>That's the whole premise of the game, you have to die to learn what's going to happen next.
Or you pay attention instead of rushing in like a moron.
>>342871290
That rarely happens in DeS, DaS and BB. You'll be able to survive most of what the game throws at you on your first try if you play carefully and pay attention to what's going on.
DaS2 is a different story. Don't know about 3 since I haven't played it yet.
>>342871167
You have so much more room to dodge fighting the Gargs that they're not really comparable in difficulty to the Maneaters.
Of course different people find different bosses easy and hard but nobody should be complaining about the Gargoyles whether or not they played DeS
>>342871540
Yeah the main cause of death with maneaters is getting pushed just far enough to fall off the narrow arena.
>>342870630
No it doesn't.
>>342870449
The health bar pops up.
>>342871014
Or you pay attention and see the second health bar.
>>342870449
you weren't.
>>342871437
I can already think of 3 occasions in dark souls where the game literally pulls trial and error bullshit on the player. The second gargoyle, the dragon on the bridge, and the capra demon fight. The dragon on the bridge literally appears without warning and its only indication is minor burn marks on the floor that you wont even notice until its too late. And with the capra demon, unless you are majorly over leveled, you will guaranteed die your first time unless you immediately run up the stairs and kill the dogs fast which is unlikely on your first attempt due to how fast you get rushed and gangbanged at the start.
>>342871437
>DaS2 is a different story.
How so, I've never had any issues with enemies popping up.
>>342871086
okay, so you didn't win the first time you fought the fight. Boo fuckin' hoo.
I'm sorry that nowadays you're expected to beat the boss the very fuckin' first you fight it, but you're gonna need to pull up your big girl panties and play through it.
>>342871987
It's a different story in the sense that DaS2 has a lot of legitimately cheap shit that you have no way of predicting.
>>342870449
boy wait until you get to bed of chaos
>>342871961
i disagree with the capra demon. The dogs die in two three hits and the guy is relatively slow.
>needs the stairs
Nigga.
>>342872001
>Defending trial and error games
Kill yourself my man.
>>342871961
That's why I said "most of what the game throws at you"
I won't deny that there are some truly cheap kills in DS1. But you'll be able to see most things coming ahead of time.
>>342872105
Could you give me an example, I Have no idea what situation you're trying to sketch me.
>>342871961
>The dragon on the bridge literally appears without warning and its only indication is minor burn marks on the floor that you wont even notice until its too late.
The post you're replying to told you to pay attention to your surroundings and be careful, not to mention the dragon flies right over your fucking head a few minutes earlier, you should have been afraid of getting dragon'd at all times after that.
As far as the Capra goes, all you need to do is be fast enough on your feet to roll immediately through the fog door when you see them coming at you
>>342872191
>defending games so fucking easy that you kill the boss on the first try.
Go play Zelda, you faggot where you know it takes three hits on their big fuckin' weak point and unless you're actually retarded, will win everytime.
>>342872191
Do you hate Megaman? Castlevania? Ghouls n' Ghosts?
I truly do not understand why y'all's panties get up in the bunches over having to die and try again.
literally impossible!
>>342872191
You're just mad at the game right now. While "trial and error" can accurately describe the souls series it has become a phrase people use when they mean "I'm furious that I died in a video game"
>>342871961
>its only indication is minor burn marks on the floor that you wont even notice until its too late
There are burnt corpses, I think those are the indicators, this sort of indicator was also used at some point in demon's souls so for people that already played that game it was a danger sign.
>>342872321
not to mention the dragon flies right over your fucking head a few minutes earlier
That literally does not happen. Theres no indication at all that a dragon is there aside from the burns on the bridge before it its already on top of you burning you.
>you can totally avoid everything first try, just pay attention!
>>342870449
you use your eyeballs.
>>342872573
Demon souls has the dragons roar before they attack. Its much more obvious that theyre about to burn you in that game.
>>342872310
Some of the boards in the well of Majula break when you jump down on them. Killing you.
The 4 ashen idols that heal the Fume Knight. It's possible to be 1 smelter's wedge (item that kills the ashen idols) short at the fight. Forcing you to kill the Fume Knight with one ashen Idol still alive.
>>342872653
Player signs left near the chest. After the first one you check any other chest or realize the different appearances between normal and mimic chests.
>>342872653
You can see them breathing.
You can also see their teeth if you look closely.
The first mimic is in a really odd position in the room, giving you a clear indicator that something is off about this chest.
>>342871961
There's nothing wrong with trial and error you fucking infant. The point of the game is to die and learn from your mistakes. Why are gamers so god damned entitled?
>Boohoo I died in a video game. My poor ego.
>>342872742
Doesn't that also happen in DaS?
>>342872596
I agree with you that the dragon is a cheap as fuck kill, and the burn marks on the bridge probably clued about 0.01% of players into the potential dragon threat, but the dragon does land right in front of you when you first enter Undead Burg.
>>342872947
>There's nothing wrong with trial and error you fucking infant
This says it all. Thats all the confirmation I needed to know that the souls community is fucking shit.
>>342870449
You get good.
>>342873006
>>342873006
>>342873006
Good lord this.
>>342871961
>no warning for dragon
Stop playing with the sound off
>>342873107
What do you think of Megaman, Castlevania, Ghouls n' Ghosts, etc; what do you think of arcade games?
>all these steam summer sale Dark Souls babbies
>>342870449
Nice drake sword. You must be really good at reading walkthroughs
>>342870449
trail land error
>>342873278
Arcade games were full of trial and error so that they could take more of your quarters by killing you more often. Its literally jewish game design.
>>342872596
You're serious? If it's possible to not trigger the dragon flying over you as you come up on the ramparts right before the katana merchant I never knew it.
I'm not remembering wrong right? That part is right before you reach Solaire and the dragon bridge.
>>342871961
Would you say being born in 1997 molded your view of video game difficulty?
>>342873397
Yes I know. Did you play arcade games and did you think they're fun? What do you think of Megaman, Castlevania, Ghouls n' Ghosts, and games of that like?
>>342872947
I always felt that a modification of the classical rule on writing good mystery fiction should be appliable to video games:
>A sufficiently astute player should be able to survive everything the game throws at him without dying.
What I like about the Soulsborne games is that, even if I die a lot, I typically feel like it was my own fault for not playing catiously.
Cheap deaths are just as disrespectful to the player as obnoxious handholding. Don't treat me as a moron but at least give me a chance.
>>342871961
Gargoyles, never died
Dragon on the bridge, ran to the stairs and down, never died until I tried to kill it
Capra Demon, sure I died a few times, but that isn't trial and error shit I just had to KILL THE DOGS FIRST
None of those are trial and error, they are all about staying on your toes
>>342873590
>Capra Demon, sure I died a few times, but that isn't trial and error shit I just had to KILL THE DOGS FIRST
>I died a few times
>not trial and error
>>342873295
I was wondering why there was a sudden upsurge in these awful threads.
Now I know.
>>342873295
I DIED SO THAT MEANS SOMETHING IS WRONG IS THE GAME!!!
MOM, I WANNA RETURN THIS GAME, MOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
>>342870449
You get what you pay for
Souls games are bargain bin ps2 action games that run like shit an have huge levels instead of small sectioned stages and a ridiculous length compared to its predecessors
The difficulty is what you come for, there isn't much else to the game other than the art design
>>342872596
dude it crashes INTO the ramparts you are on like 1 minutes earlier. The charred bodies and the fact that the bridge just LOOKS like a trap should have got your spidey senses tingling
>>342872156
>bed of chaos
>implying he won't give up at quelaag
>>342873725
There is a difference between cheap deaths and dying to bosses until you get it right
If that is a concept you are going to have difficulty with the entire time I suggest you stop playing immediately
>All the "cool kids" flocking to this thread defending their precious miyazaki and his "how can we kill the player this time?" game design
Its like stockholm syndrome in video game form.
>>342873725
What do you think of Megaman, Castlevania, Ghouls n' Ghosts, and games of that like; what about arcade games? Metal Slug?
>>342874035
>>342874109
All video games are just pointless trial and error, I should have god mode on and never die.
>>342874104
What do you think of Megaman, Castlevania, Ghouls n' Ghosts, and games of that like; what about arcade games? Metal Slug?
>>342874104
A video game board likes difficult video games!?!?
>>342873738
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it an 8/8
>>342874209
What do you think of me fucking your mom?
>>342874331
post vid
>>342870449
>tfw DaS2 rematch
>>342874104
translation: I couldn't beat it so it's a bad game
>>342874331
Wouldn't know haven't spoken to her. Now answer the question.
>>342874209
Nobody that thinks that way has even played those games. The person you're replying to is either too young to have played those games, or just got into video games some time in the last 3 generations, which are flooded with hand holding games. "You pressed A when we asked you to? You're the hero! Better watch out, we're about to ask you to press B."
>>342874314
>implying its not
I see you were not alive for the hack and slash genre to come and go
>>342870449git gud
>>342874520
Would you like to meet her? I can arrange a meeting.
>>342874104
>miyazaki and his "how can we kill the player this time?" game design
That was never the point.
The point is to make the player feel like they're in a hostile dark fantasy world, the difficulty was a result of that.
>>342873295
I always thought this image was David Cross. All those years man...
>>342874627
I know. I want them to admit that they haven't played those games, or admit that they don't like games where you're forced to learn how the game operates, and thus conclude that the Souls games aren't for them so they can stop wasting their time.
>>342874721
So you have nothing interesting to say? Cool.
>>342874680
What the fuck is that thing?
>>342870449
souls games are about minding your surroundings, if you didnt see another huge ass gargoyle on the roof then you're fucking shit, and fire doesnt kill you instantly so you had low hp too
>3 only has gargoyles as the occasional rare enemy instead of a boss fight
YOU HAD ONE JOB
>>342874938
>and fire doesnt kill you instantly so you had low hp too
Yeah I dont over level in souls games like you, scrub.
You want good game design? Play the chalices in bloodborne, it's so fun getting one shotted by a defiled fucking amygdala from a simple tap.
>>342870449
I really can't believe people have trouble with this fight.
Just focus on killing the first one even when the second shows up. Run AWAY from the fire. You can't block it. They are also weak to lightning - slap some pine resin on you favorite weapon and the fight will literally take you a couple minutes at the most.
>>342874627
The bullshit about this fight is that nothing in the level really forces you to deal with 2 really tough enemies at once. So you are learning from scratch.
>>342874986
Thank God.
Belfry Gargoyles was one of the laziest boss fights in DaS2, which is saying something.
>>342871961
>Without warning
>Big fucking dragon lands right in front of you earlier
>Beat a boss, you don't find a bonfire
>Instead you find a long ass bridge with burn marks and corpses
Plus it can't one shot players at full health. Literally cannot.
>>342872653
The first mimic is the only effective mimic.
I wish that guy was the only one of his kind. Having mimics for every 2 chests is not hard, not surprising, just tedious.
>>342875084
>can't roll or play it safe
go and play some cod . it seems more like your thing
>>342875075
>i ignore leveling up, im not a scrub xd!!!
>>342873295
>play 120+ hours of das1 on a pirated copy
>buy it on the sale
>"just get chaos blade and cut smough in 4" the run, the game, the legend
feels good
>>342875330
>I need to level up to win bossfights because I have no skill XDDD lel
>>342871961
>Dragon on the bridge
How do you die to this? You start walking, get hit by dragon breath, then presumably run to the only obvious path that there is. Yes, it comes out of nowhere, but the fire isn't an instakill, so you just run away.
Is there a bonfire in Memory of the Old Iron King? I fucking hate these ninja knights.
>>342875514
The fact its a complete cheap shot that most players wont see coming is already bad enough.
>>342875538
Nope, enjoy running through bland grey boxy stone corridors again and again.
>>342875424
But leveling in DaS isn't an indicator of anything.. Honestly you'd probably be stronger if you dumped those souls into upgrading weapons than using them to level. If you skip the gargoyles and hit that 2nd bell first, while never leveling and dumping all your souls into pyromancy, you could probably OHKO or two shot the gargoyles all while being the minimum level for your class. Level don't mean shit.
>there are people in this very thread who consider DaS a difficult game
>>342875641
Welp fuck this game I'm moving on to 3 now
>>342875779
I agree
its not at all
>>342872653
it takes more than one hit to break a normal chest
>>342875831
DaS2 was the best one of the trilogy.
>>342875627
But why? It's a pretty effective moment. You're thrown into a horrible situation where you suddenly don't have half your health, but still have a very good chance to escape. It's tense and exciting, and therefore fun. What's wrong with it?
>>342875779
Exactly. Its not a hard game. Trial and error =/= difficulty.
>>342875831
>playing anything else than DeS, DaS1 or BB
>>342871961
I will never understand all this salt about the bridge Dragon. It's literally programed to be unable to one shot you.
Even if it takes you completely by surprise, you don't die, you just lose some HP...literally steps away from a bonfire.
And yet over the years, thread after thread after thread has been filled with the tears of salty morons who can't deal with losing some HP...
>>342876085
there's that word again.
>>342876085
I shiver to think what will these people do in Darkest Dungeon or in some of the older Castlevanias.
>>342875971
It's very fun I won't deny that but Crown of the Iron King is fucking bullshit
>>342876127
DaS1 > BB > DaS2 > DeS
>>342876017
I felt neither tension nor excitement form that moment. Only annoyance. I guess if youre a mouth breathing retard then maybe it could be fun for you.
>>342871961
>large bridge with almost nothing on it but a few skeletons
>massive burn marks and burnt corpses
>the dragon flies right in front of your face earlier on in the undead burg
if you didn't find the bridge somewhat ominous you're just a retard
>>342871961
>>342870449
>Waaaaah! A game makes me pay attention or, heaven forbid, even play a section more than once in order to progress! Fucking artificial bullshit!
Fuck you, sincerely. Faggots like you are why devs pander to the lowest common denominator and casualize everything so nobody gets challenged anymore. I'd rather die by the occasional "Oh shit, I didn't see that coming" than continue to cakewalk through games anymore.
Pic related, it's you two infants when you don't have an NPC explicitly tell you to be wary of dragons and you can't rely on an objective marker.
>>342875627
>cheap shot
Except you saw him earlier, see burned bodies on the bridge, hear flapping wings before he starts breathing fire, and then hear him breathing the fire before he reaches you
Are you the type of person that has a shorter memory than a goldfish and do you freeze up when something unexpected happens?
>>342871961
Is it that time again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkT8gZ6I-uU
>>342875779
Only Quelaag, Kalameet, and Bed of Chaos are difficult. And only Bed of Chaos because I kept missing that jump somehow
>Trial and error games are fucking dumb
Everything is trial and error. These people are literally avoiding having to use their brains to consider the possibilities in a given scenario. Why is that such a terrifying thing for so many people?
>I'm not afraid of losing. I just want to know what's going to happen ahead of time so I can already begin to prepare.
Nigger, plenty of people defeated them on their first try. It literally didn't instantly appear one shotting you. Its health bar showed up. It took 5 seconds to fly down. It took 5 seconds to walk over to you and begin its fire breath attack. Hell, it's attack doesn't even one hit you if you're not already half dead.
You're just fucking garbage. Filth in every sense of the word. You're dumb, you're slow, you're whiny, you're weak. You're everything wrong with games.
>>342876304
>Hur dur you must be stupid if you enjoyed it.
Nice. Do you really not find it exciting when you're in danger?
>>342876408
>Trial and error is difficulty
THERE IT IS AGAIN
THERES THAT RETARDED LINE
>>342871014
Only if you're shit.
>>342875779
The game is punishing, and people often mistake that for difficulty. The tasks you must perform aren't all that hard, you're just punished much more severely for each mistake compared to western AAA garbage.
Ludwig > Ornstein Smough > Fume Knight > everything else
>>342876595
I find it exciting when i slide my cock up your moms anus. Other than that, nothing really does it for me.
>>342876724
>meme horse
>>342876491
Do you find Quelaag challenging?
I think the only remarkable hard attack is the explosion one, besides that she is really easy.
I guess that everybody finds different bosses to be hard or easy depending on their build and other things aswell I suppose.
>>342870449
Because in demons souls you learn this.
>>342876616
>being aware of your surroundings and not running around like a retard is asking too much
THERE IT IS AGAIN
THERES THAT RETARDED LINE
>>342876794
It's a meme for a reason
>>342870449
If it caught you off-guard and killed you, just walk back to them and fight them again, this time armed with the knowledge that there actually are two bosses there.
I.e. you learn and then employ that knowledge to win.
>>342876528
>You're dumb, you're slow, you're whiny, you're weak. You're everything wrong with games.
BTFO
>>342876835
If you didn't upgrade your weapon enough damaging her can be a pain, I can see why new players might have a hard time if they're hitting for 50 every swing when the same weapon would do ~150 to the Gargoyles.
>gargs are too hard
ayy lmao
Imagine for a second what would these people who complain about "lol no warning" do in some SNES titles like Demon Crest, Megaman, Castlevania and such.
>>342870449
you will know during your first encounter, or at least after your first try
>how in the fuck was I supposed to know that this boss has a second phase
sounds pretty stupid if you ask me
>>342876752
>>342877038
>If you didn't upgrade your weapon enough damaging her can be a pain
Not that anon but I agree, the fight isn't difficult but it takes forever if you haven't upgraded your weapon as far as you can at that point.
>>342877142
How the fuck was I supposed to know Ludwig would get easier in his second phase?
>>342876528
To add: you're playing a game that requires intense focus and reflexes. You have two immediately effective options for defense: roll or defend. If you're saying the Capra Demon is a cheap shot, that's because you walked through the fog gate, took a sip of your artisan store-bought tea and grabbed a handful of baked pita chips to help you stuff your fucking mouth with instead of focusing on playing the game, you stupid fucking hipster.
Do you not have reflexes either? Have you been playing tell-tale games for the last 3 years? Are you an exclusive animal crossing player trying to impress his coworkers? Hell, you'd probably whine about how in Animal Crossing the first time you got a notification to pull up a fish was artificial difficulty because you were too fucking busy watching your TEDxTalks rather than playing the game.
>>342876835
Quelaag pushed my shit in quite a few times, usually from getting knocked into lava
>>342870449
the same way you learned how to get that drake sword: gamefaqs
>>342877117
its like that guy, who complained yesterday or so, that terraria doesn't tell you how to chop down trees, yet he had no problem using a pickaxe to dig
fucking retards I swear
>>342877038
Same with Gaping Dragon. The boss is easy but he endures far too much pain.
Is there any reason to not stay in soul form or hollowed? You don't lose world tendency and you don't get invaded during your travels.
>>342877270
SOMEONE STOP THIS ANON
>>342877270
Woah youre so badass. Epic. I wish I could be such a skilled gamer like you. Can you show me your l33t reflexes sometime?
>>342875831
Use a bow and get a bunch of cheap hits on them as they come to you. Bonus points for iron arrows.
The boss himself isnt hard, just carve through the Alonne Knights and face him. Wont take many tries. Hes not like FUCKING PIECE OF HORSE SHIT IVORY KING FUCK YOU WHY WOULD YOU TAKE ALL MY ESTUS AWAY WITH THOSE BULLSHIT BLACK KNIGHTS REEEEEEEEEE
>>342877350
>maxresdefault.jpg
c'mon, anon. you're better than that.
>>342877872
THE ANAL PAIN
OH THE SWEET SWEAT OUT OF YOUR INFLAMATED BUTTHOLE
I CAN SMELL IT FROM HERE ANON
>>342877805
Not being hollowed means you can get help, but you can still be invaded.
>>342877805
Well in soul form you lose half your hp so thats a pretty good reason to not want to be in it. Hollowed, I cant really think of any major downside unless you want to be invaded.
>>342877872
>get BTFO
>post this
Just shameful, anon.
>>342877719
Yeah I usually don't even get hit during the fight but it takes a while, especially if I'm trying to cut off his tail.
>>342877872
lol this nigga is so dumb he can't even play video games
>>342877270
Literally the hardest boss in the game, relative to equipment at the time.
>>342877984
>>342878080
>>342878273
>Samefagging this hard
>>342877890
Ivory King was fun as hell, hands down best fight in the series. Did you recruit all your knights?
>tfw entering the fog gate
>>342877872
Just stop playing videogames if you can't handle them, anon.
>>342878382
>"s-samefagg!"
LOOK AT HIM
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
>>342876408
>Fuck you. Yes, sincerely.
>>342870449
Easiest boss in the game.
Killed first try, got the axe, and didn't use a guide.
>>342878382
Try again, friendo.
>>342878478
>>342878592
>>342878704
>Still samefagging
>>342878592
I want that chocolate cake.
>>342878839
How can one man be so BTFO
>mario 64
>bowser fight #2
>platform tilts
>die
>WOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT THE PLATFORM WOULD TILT?
>ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY
>>342875930
fucking this, man.
DS3 took it so overboard, had anyone taken a actual headcount of the mimics in that shit, cause I reckon they're about 50% of the chests. Loses all impact, boo.
>>342878839
>>342878839
>>342872156
I almost want angry anon to stream or record this, just for his reaction alone.
>>342878839
You're retarded, 62 people came to laugh at you.
>fire emblem 7
>reinforcements come in
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY'D SPAWN ON THOSE TILES?
>I WAS ALREADY SO FAR OUT OF POSITION, THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO ABOUT IT
>artificial difficulty
>>342877117
>Demon Crest
Missed that when it came out and just emulated it recently, what a cool game. That fucking eyeball brain boss took me so many FUCKING tries, I haven't picked it up again after finally beating it
>>342878989
>>342879068
>>342879071
>>342879102
>Keeps on samefagging
>>342878991
>Ape Escape 2
>trying to catch a monkey with boxing gloves
>he punches me
>die
>WOOOOW DUDE HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW HE WAS GOING TO PUNC MEEE?
>>342872156
>hit one side
>kill self
>hit other side
>kill self
>run to center
woow so hard
![164439_back[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1CwDbCp.jpg "164439_back[1].jpg")
>>342870449
>being an uninformed consumer
>>342879010
It was funny playing it after Bloodborne.
>always wary about mimics
>not a single one shows up
>the very first fuckin chest I see in DS3 is a mimic
You'll never catch me Mimizaki. I liked the chest that triggers the squad of basilisks though.
>pokemon blue
>pick charmander
>fight misty
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW SHE WOULD BE A WATER GYM LEADER?
>I ONLY TRAINED MY CHARMANDER
>artificial difficulty
>>342879196
loving every laugh
>>342879165Fire Lord
>devil may cry 3
>chose dante must die mode
>begin game
>dante dies
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT DANTE WOULD DIE?
>artificial difficulty
>this thread
>OP
<<<
>>342879196
Are you so fucking unhappy that you've convinced yourself goading people into replying to your posts gains you something?
You're not gonna get the last word in. The weak have no voice.
>>342879196
god forgive this poor man
>>342875779
Anon.......why are you playing games that are not hard like Dark Souls? Are you a casual?
>>342873357
Glad someone else noticed this.
>>342879579
Im playing co-op and online for the first time anon, it's breddy gud a shame I didn't buy it earlier.
>>342879579
wipe this meme from the face of the earth
>>342879196
Are you actually trolling at this point ?
One man can't be this delusional
>>342879345
I never want to fucking know.
>>342879556
>>342879564
>>342879706
>continues to samefag harder
>>342873357
>>342879612
>complaining about the gargoyles
>pic has 1 down and the 2nd about to die and has full health
You guys are retarded if you think that's him in pic related
>>342879757
I miss the metroidvania genre, the ones with dark and spoopy theme overall.
I still have nightmares from some Portrait of Ruin bosses.
>get grabbed by an enemy
>game never tells me that to break free I need to mash random buttons
>just wait for it to let go
>die
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>342879612
Drake sword is old news, all the guide readers go for the bkh or gls now
>>342879884
>less than a minute apart
>samefagging
I know it must suck to find out that you are just fucking bad, but get over it
>play football
>5'4
>95 lbs
>gets tackled
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO TACKLE ME?
>artificial difficulty
>>342879884
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>>342878839
>>342879196
>>342879884
Please take a screen and prove me that this isn't the same person who's shitposting, believing he's some kind of comical genius
>>342876408
That 98 humanity, and 999million fucking souls.God fucking damn it.
>>342879884
what kinda reply you want familia?
>>342878428
I did. All 4 of them.
My four knights would rush forward, strafe around in circles, and all 3 charred knights would rush me. And while I'm fighting, fire snakes are coming my way.
I had to swap from dual rapiers to a FUGS to stunlock the bastards so I could get them down in a timely fashion.
Given, I was playing on Covenant of the Champions, so that probably contributed to my frustration.Gotta GIT GUDSitting on 49 awestones right now.
>>342870449
Same way you knew how to get the Drake Sword.
Massive fucking faggot. Gitgud.
>>342874186
This. This is good game design.
>>342879196
>>342878839
>>342879196
>>342879884
My god, redditors walk among us. Don't forget to screencap for /r/4chan on the way out.
>>342880412
Why do people go for the Drake Sword eitherways?
There are better options
>sieging a city
>trebuchet misses by several hundred feet
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT AIR RESISTANCE WAS A THING?
>artificial difficulty
>>342880508
because it is hands down the best weapon in early game
>>342873107
just admit it dude, you're shit at vidya
>>342880508
nigger are you stupid? you really need somebody to explain why a shitter would go for the extremely easy to get and effective to blighttown drake sword? They're not gonna be doing the catacombs run or detouring to the halberd knight in the forest and then getting the souls necessayr to use it
like yeah we can all shit on drake sword users but don't try to act all bewildered as if a retard would know about better options
>>342880508
>There are better options
Yes, but they're not as easy to obtain.
>>342877805
better item discovery as human than hollowed
>>342880770
I asked because I honestly don't know why people take it over over things.
Heck I enjoy my runs with a shittier weapon and become fond of it, creating some attachement with the weapon.
>>342877805
lower resistances and item discovery
>>342880395
>Covenant of the Champions
>how hard can it be
>everything available from the start to Huntsman's Copse kicks my ass
Had to turn it off, I'm not a masochist
>>342880508
I don't choose weapons based on how much skill they take to use. It fucking cuts the air itself with shockwaves just like my japanese animes, it's just cool using it. I don't like using a sword smaller than a greatsword though so it was only a novelty for a little while, getting the claymore right afterwards was too tempting.
>>342871961
i had problems with bell gargs and capra demon
but not because of "trial and error" but because DaS is terrible at multiple targets in a boss fight
i also didn't fall for the dragon like a dumbass because of all of the charred corpses and the charred stone bridge
>>342880593
>Absolutely devastating the bastard John Snow's wildling army by raining arrows on them and my soldiers, making a mountain out of the corpses and encircling them and slowly killing them inch by inch.
>suddenly the vale comes from a nearby hill and rapes my remaining soldiers
>WOW, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT NONCHALANTLY DWINDLING MY OWN NUMBERS WAS A BAD IDEA? AND HOW THE FUCK WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT MY OWN DOGS WOULD BITE MY FACE OFF IF I STARVED THEM FOR 7 DAYS, WHAT HAPPENED TO LOYALTY? WHY IS MY PLOT ARMOR GONE?
>>342870449
Artificial difficulty
I love these threads. It's so satisfying to see so much premium, top-of-the-line butthurt being caused by a game that I 100% almost 4 years ago. If anyone else gets mad at this game to the point where they have to spray their furious buttblast all over the place, just know that I'll be there to laugh at you as well.__________git gud_________
>>342879962
Yeah, even if games like these aren't fully realized 3D vanias, you can feel the influence of those games.
I never played that one though, it's that hard?
>>342881146
I've been doing relatively well with it so far. I turned it on at the very start of the game and have never turned it off (Aside from doing some jolly cooperation getting summoned as a sunbro, but then I turned it right back on).
It has been a fucking brutal, senseless, unforgiving, "walk slowly and with your finger on the dodge button" experience. I actually haven't died that much (I think Sir Alonne took me three tries?) but FUCK man, those charred knights tore my asshole a new one. I have 11 loyce souls just from trying to beat the boss. I did get him last night though.
Its the Dark Souls of Dark Souls. Seriously. I have had to fucking fight for every inch.
>No summoning
>Covenant of the Champions
>Invaded left and right
>No blocking (Dual Rapiers only)
>On top of all the bullshit in SotFS
I think I've gotten gud. Fume Knight was a fucking top tier fight, easily my favorite in the game.
>>342878428
>THE OLD CHAOS
>That fucking musical cue
>>342881039
No, don't bring up how you enjoy using weak weapons, another little stealth brag. You said there's better options early game than drake sword and yes there are but do you expect a person taht needs a drake sword to be capable of doing the catacombs run or forest detour? No, so don't ask some retarded question like huh why don't they use the harder to get weapons, cause its just another lightly veiled brag and you come across as a faggot
>>342879892
>You guys are retarded if you think that's him in pic related
I don't. I think the OP be trollin
>>342870449
Its not like you can hear the flapping of wings or anything. that would then trigger you to think 'shit somethings up' and look around, clearly that requires to much int and that was your dump stat.
>>342881798
But the game is easy with or without the dragon sword, what Im asking is "what's the advantage of using that specific weapon in the game when things like zwei, claymore, uchigatana and such exist"?
>>342881423
I liked that battle, though since you mentioned plot armor Jon was wearing two sets of it. I was hoping so hard when he was alone facing their entire vanguard that he would just start cutting through horse and man alike with Valyrian steel and die gloriously, then Melisandre would bring him back again full of wounds
>>342881630
Some bosses like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWYrVnNrhU are a pain, but the game's difficulty is mild compared to other titles.
>>342880508
I didn't really understand how important reinforcing weapons/armor was my first time through the game. Drakesword has good damage, a handy beam attack and you can get it 1 hour into the game. All great if you're not confident about your ability in the game, wiki or no.
>>342874186
>waah i just want the game to let me pass every boss with little to no effort
the call of duty audience everyone
>>342870449
I can't fucking believe Soulsfags are still falling for obvious as fuck bait
>>342882683
maybe we just fucking go with it and enjoy a nice thread about DaS and other games instead of searching for some good thread deep below the multitude of witcher, overwatch and weeb games threads
>>342882364
That player makes it look easy with meta knowledge, but intredasting. I'll add it to the list
>>342882181
What's the unupgraded base damage of those weapons? And what is the base damage of the drake sword?
Are you actually this retarded or are you just trying to be a weasel in constantly shifting things around
>>342883523
>meta knowledge
ayy lmao the guy isn't even short hopping his whip strikes and he's not backdash canceling subweapons he sucks
>>342883635
Anon could you tell me why are you so mad over somebody's opinion in the internet?
I just think that taking some of those 3 weapons and quickly upgrading it is better but that's just my opinion.
Also, can we just stop for a moment and think like, "what's actually wrong with trial and error"?
So, you have to try something more than once and actually figure it out? You have to switch up your gameplay cause whatever stupid shit you were doing before wasn't working?
Okay, cry about it faggot. How fuckin' horrifying it must be, that you have to replay a section cause your autism doesn't allow you to get through it.
