So how will it be?
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/26/sonic-team-announces-new-sonic-game-coming-2017/
>>342853585
Generations is literally the only good 3D Sonic game.
And given that they grossly departed with that, I don't expect much.
Is this a question? It'll be shit.
>>342854848
I liked unleashed a bit. The day stages were pretty fine, the story was kind of too.
Music as well.
>>342854969
the loading time alone ruined that shit
>Been in development for 3 and half years when it releases
it better be fucking amazing
>>342854969
Yeah the daytime stages for the most part were good, but like 80% of the game was fucked.
>>342853585
I thought we were gonna have one this year.
I don't know. They probably couldn't get away with Gens 2 considering no worthwhile Sonic games have come out since then. Sonic Adventure has so much baggage inherent in it I doubt it could possibly be good unless they change everything to the point where it barely resembles SA.
>>342855431
We are. A sequel to Sonic Boom!
>>342853585
You already know the answer.
>>342853585
>implying sonic has ever been good
I want this sonic is good meme to die
how the fuck is sonic still alive
>>342855595
Hi, Arin
Considering SEGAs track record of pushing out Sonic shit as fast as possible....
It'll be mediocre at best.
They need to let the devs take they're time if they want a good game.
>>342855696
AAARIIIIIIIN
>>342855810
That's the thing. They've been working on this thing for like 3 years now.
>>342857423
If Fire & Ice is an indication, the next Sonic game is probably already finished but they gave it extra time to polish it
>>342853585
It'll be an 8/10 game because it'll have multiple playable characters and one of them will be slow and cumbersome, but still tolerable.
The soundtrack will be a 9/10 because one of the songs will be reused from a previous game with little to no changes.
>>342857847
>Sonic Team
>Actually spending extra time to polish
>All of this hinting at Adventure 3
I don't care. I'm hyped.
Is it 2017 because of NX?
>>342854848
What about Colors?
So, we don't get even a teaser?
Meh.
>>342858690
Sonic Colors is a good Sonic game, but it is by no means a "3D Sonic game." It is 85% 2.5D and the other 15% is more linear than Sonic Unleashed.
>>342853585
If it has a Chao Garden it'll be an insta-buy
>>342853585
It will be shit, OP. Why are you still hoping? Are you mentally challenged?
Unless they bring back Ra, I'm not interested.
>>342853585
Pretty long dev time for a Sonic game.
People saying Adventure 3 might be on to something, considering how the series has different play styles and the Chao Garden to develop.
>no true 25th anniversary game
Oh wow Sega, fucking wow.
>>342855159
And they wasted time with Lost World.
There isnt even a true fucking Nintendo portable game for years, just Boom shit.
>>342859404
Next month, with trailer of 10 seconds with Sonic doing cool pose and "COMING 2017 PC, PS4, XBONE AND NX". Then you will have to wait until october for true in-game shit
>>342860080
>Wanting another '06
Let them take their timeAt least it's better than nothing
>>342853585
>post you're yfw when it won't come to PC
>>342860080
Oh, yes. Let's rush the game out so that we can make the Anniversary year! What would POSSIBLY go wrong?
>>342860080
>Sega
>developing games for PC
>any year after 2011
>Japanese games
>coming to PC
Generations was the last Sega game yo have a simultaneous console and PC release. Everything else has been ports of older games that consoles had for years.
>>342853585
That article is wrong, though? They announced a new 2017 project, not necessarily a new game.
>>342861315
Also, they used NeoGaf as a source.
>>342860606
>>342860776
But I said rushed? There isn't a game since 2011. LW was an exclusive game because of that deal and a mediocre game. After all these this and no Sonic 25th anniversary? Yeah it is bullshit. No new portable Sonic since like Rush Adventure...? Really? Colors and Gen were a 2nd version for DS and 3DS, after that is just Sonic Boom.
And 06 wasn't just rushed, was also badly designed and had terrible story with a human wanting Sonic's dick and a deviantart evil Sonic.
Hell, even Generations was a bit rushed in the end. You could notice that in the later missions with glitches here and there
>>342860080
>MUH ANNIVERSARY GAME
Oh shut up, let Sonic Team actually take their time with this one rather than rushing it out for a dumb celebration.
>>342858449
It's not Adventure 3 and it's not Generations 2.
It'sUnleashed 2.
Here's my prediction
>Unleashed was an attempt with something new and the debut of the "Hedgehog engine" that they also used in Generations. Werehog sucked but the daytime stages were alright.
>Colors was an attempt in the same vein, but with a focus on more traditional platforming and a safer gimmick
>Generations was a combination of those ideas with another safe gimmick to sell it and in the end it worked fairly well
>Lost Worlds was a rushed contract job that disregarded what they had learned previously and it was horrible
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope Sonic Team has learned that people want another game in the same form as Generations/Colors. The best possible thing to do is to make something people want, Sonic Adventure 3, and then try to master the mechanics they've been building on since the Unleashed daytime stages.
Of course, the suits at SEGA are the people who could hold this game back. They're primarily the reason why modern Sonic sucks, not because post 06 Sonic Team doesn't have talented people. They just need enough time to actually develop a good game.
New Sonic fighting game when? It has been a while
>>342862819
>hand holding
Gross.
>>342862493
Unleashed bombed. There is a 0 (zero) % chance they will ever consider a sequel for it, especially when the majority of the criticism was directed at the nighttime stages.
You're only saying that because of the picture in the OP.
>>342854969
unleashed was fucking garbage what are you on about.
might as well include secret rings and black knight
>>342858449
>All of this hinting at Adventure 3
As a Banjo fan, please realize: nothing is hinting at anything. Absolutely, fucking nothing.
>>342863128
Generations pretty much WAS Unleashed 2 from a gamplay perspective. Kinda like how Lost World was a really really shitty Colors 2
We already had three mainline games with the boost formula. It's time to try new things.
>>342853585
I hope it's a Sonic Adventure game. I really miss those...
What the fuck is SEGA's train of thought?
They made Sonic Generations, people liked it, then they went "Eh, fuck it", and went right back to making shitty spinoffs that no one wants.
Who the fuck thought of Boom?
>>342863836
They did, Lost World didn't have it and sucked ass. The boost mechanic is great, and mostly optional too. You don't HAVE to constantly use it and the game is harder to play if you do. But it also means that if you're replaying a level you basically memorized then you can just constantly GO FAST and feel like you're speedrunning it.
It's a good idea.
Wasn't Lost World literally a re-worked version of that cancelled 3D Sonic game from the 90's?
Can't remember what it was called, but someone matched up different areas and it's almost identical.
>>342864107
Boom, in concept, wasn't a bad idea. The designs aren't horrible and Sonic needed a refresh. It's downfall was
>Cry Engine on Wii U
>Sonic 06 levels of development hell
>Developers had little idea what they were doing or what kind of game they were making
>Retarded relentless dialogue
If Sega would take a minute and realize almost all Sonic games short-comings stem from their ridiculous development cycles it "may" have been decent.
>>342858449
Adventure 3 was sonic 06
>>342864396
Wouldn't surprise me, the "Three Sonic games" contract Sega made with Nintendo thing was done REALLY badly. They just tried shitting out every game under that deal.
>More Olympic shit
>Sonic Boom
>Lost World
Who knows though. Lost World didn't follow the formula they've been building on at all though, so I could believe it was a just hastily put together garbage.
>>342864685
Huh. That's funny. I don't see "Adventure 3" anywhere on here. It just says "Sonic the Hedgehog."
I think you may be mistaken, friend.
>>342864396
Interviews said that developers weren't even aware that Sonic X-Treme was even a thing and that any likeness was a coincidence.
I just want Sonic CD 2.
Fuck that, wheres my Sonic Boom 2?
>>342865092
It has the same formats as the first 2 game, its practically a remake of Adventure.
>>342865696
Fire and Ice is coming soon, unfortunately
>>342864124
Lost World was good, though.
>>342865696
There are already four Boom games in only three years
>>342862572
Werehog didn't sucked, it was just mediocre and fans didn't want Sonic to transform like that but Knuckles would be a better option with shorter levels.
>>342864107
They are always changing shit
>we got 2d right? Let's try 3d ON THE MEGADRIVE
>3D didn't work because Megadrive sucks for that. let's try 3d on the satur---
>shit, saturn is dead. Let's just have a compilation with a 3d pre-Adventure sonic and a Sonic racing. let the fighters game be an arcade thing
>okay, we got Adventure idea right, let's change into 3 players at the same time
>didn't work right. gameplay is fucked. let's go back to adventure but with Shadow and guns
>fuck, people didn't like it. let's try with sonic and other hedgehogs
>fuck, we didn't had time and people didn't liked our love story. let's stop for now. let's try new stuff on that new nintendo console, dimps doing the portable games and we the spin-off games
>oh fuck, people like the Rush series dimps made and that boost thingy
>Finally, we got right. People like the boost idea, let's change again. Parkour shit but with Mario fans in mind
>ffffuuuck. It didn't work. Let some random dudes make a game for that new Sonic show on their own, if they fail it's their fault
>yeah, boom was shit, it was their fault. Let's keep making those android sonic running games
With every shit they did SEGA just divided the fanbase into multi-factions because they need to fresh things every 2-3 games with new engines.
>>342864396
Sonic X-treme for the Saturn? It kinda looked like that with the fish-eye camera but that's it. Lost World had an idea in mind that was get the Mario audience, that was what they said I am not joking and they failed hard. You could notice that with how the levels theme were like a Mario game.
>>342865854
Yeah, well, "practically" is not reality.
>>342866209
Well it is and probably why they never did a similar style of game.
>>342866412
It's as much as a sonic adventure 3 as DmC is DMC 5
>>342866412
Sonic Unleashed was similar to the first Adventure in several things
I'm probably one of the few people that thought Unleashed as alright.
The game looked fucking pretty even if it wasn't optimized right, and the stages were fun if a little cheep at times.
The music is fucking god-tier and I feel like Colors was a step down when it came to music, but I still like it's music.
Chip was alright and was at least more tolerable than Navi.
Eggman was both threatening and funny, which is good.
The Werehog gets way too much slack and I honestly find it alright, it had the makings of a good gameplay mode.
Unleashed has a good "Adventure Style" tone of not completely jokey or completely series.
>>342855491
Generations 2 could just be the same set of games with different levels, maybe included a few more of the newer ones since then, it's not like they have exhausted all their options with that concept.
>>342859447
Sonic generations is 10% 3D Sanic, 10% broken classic Sanic, and 80% filler.
>>342866857
No. No its not at all.
Unleashed was a decent Sonic game with GoW slapped on it.
Sonic 06 had you play as multiple characters, shitty cutscenes and tons of glitches. Like Sonic Adventure 1.
Only reason Unleashed is considered an adventure is is because of the Japanese name.
>>342866878
Unleashed HD is my favorite sonic game, but it wasn't perfect to say the least. The Werehog complaints is overexaggerated imo.
>>342853585
>sonic game
it'll be autistic just like every other one
sonic the hedgehog literally causes autism, and there is a protein in the body related to autism named after it. Google it.
>>342866878
You are not. The game is still fun for me. It was pretty adventure-feel like you said.
Chip was a good partner. Had silly things but it was not annoying like previous characters.
>>342867547
Werehog levels could be longer than usual for most players and the fact it had more levels than Day-time made people hate it more. You were forced sometimes go to 2 different places just nighttime and then you finally get one day-stage. The medal system for unlocking stages also made people hate even more the werehogs stages.
The werehog's battle theme was another thing to make people hate the werehog more. That shit was always changing the stage's theme and the battle theme is always the same, starts always from the same way. Because of that there are night stages that had great tracks but you couldn't hear them more than 30 seconds.
The werehog's gameplay was actually fine with a great variaton of combos to do.
>>342865092
Huh. That's funny. I don't see "Pokemon Stadium 3" anywhere on here. It just says "Pokemon Coloseum."
I think you may be mistaken, friend.
>>342869626
Oh, yeah I forgot that "adventure three" and "the hedgehog" we're synonymous.
>sonic the hedgehog was rushed out the door for the 15th anniversary when it needed another year of development
>10 years later they learned their lesson
Probably pretty good
Given that they've been working on it for quite some time I'm quietly optimistic. It'd be a pleasant surprise if it were Adventure 3 but I would guess it probably won't be; the Adventure games had a slightly dark edge to them, but after Sonic '06 went balls deep with that and failed miserably, the mainline games have been far more lighthearted in tone.
I honestly don't have any idea what it could be like, really. Maybe it'll have larger levels and be more centred around exploration and nonlinearity.
>>342870003
>two different subtitles to Sonic games that operate and play the same
Why yes, that's entirely correct.
>>342865092
It follows the same structure and formula.
>>342867351
>multiple playstyles
>hub worlds
>monster of the week
>Super Sonic in the final battle
>>342853585
How hasn't everyone in Sonic Team been fired yet?
Why does Sega keep sinking money in a black hole of a series?
>>342872980
Sonic Team is good, though?
>>342872980
that black hole of a series happens to be their only really popular and recognizable series
>>342873054
I'm not convinced.
>>342873226
What about Puyo Puyo?
>>342865907
>Lost World was good, though.
lolno.
>>342866878
my only problem with unleashed is the way that the werehog battle music interrupts all the groovy night tunes. there was no need for that.
