ITT: The most underrated Castlevania
The music sure sounds "fart-ish" but the compositions themselves are amazing, it's just the low quality of samples that hurts it.
And the graphics are without a doubt best out of the GBA three, especially after you fix the color palette and get rid of the glow.
>>342849098
>>342849238
REPLY TO MY FUCKING CASTLEKINO THREAD ALREADY
It's not underrated. It's the worst. It looks like shit, sounds like shit, and is 90% long empty corridors especially late in the game.
HoD isn't just underrated, it's legitimately the worst metroidvania out of all the gba/ds games.
level design is shit, the ost is nothing to write home about, it's just a painfully mediocre game with no redeeming qualities
though wiht that said, it's still a better game than most of the indie "metroidvanias"
>>342849850
>worst
>looks like shit
Bait as fuck, kill yourself.
The only thing I that HoD did that I wish carried over to other Iga games was the forward-dash.
>>342849098
What do you mean by fixing the color palette and getting rid of glow?
It's at least better than Circle of the Moon, its predecessor. Later handheld Castlevanias blew it out of the water of course, but it's important to remember it in the frame of its release.
>>342849973
Look at the other games you tard. Also stop cherrypicking images from your L337 romhack. Most of HoD is just empty bland hallways.
>>342849098
>underrated Castlevania
>Not CotM
>>342849974
It was needed in HoD because most of the game is corridor filler you want to skip over.
>>342849098
The problem is that the music does sound shit in the actual game and the graphics look bad in the actual game
>>342849959
>OST is nothing to write home about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-A1NWI5Y1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zsV113dfnI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouwGpIW9Twk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43SjK9XF1Zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98cPmhoZzz8
Kill yourself son for your shit taste.
>>342849974
Forward dash should be in every CV game.
>>342850045
I take it you never played HoD? By default the colors are oversatured to all hell with brightness set to blinding levels and main character as well as his friend-rival figure have disgusting glow aura around their sprites. It's technicolor as fuck.
>>342850506
I get that. But it was still fun to dash like a maniac.
>>342850279
>Later handheld Castlevanias blew it out of the water
The DS games were trash, though.
>>342850321
>l33t romhack
Literally the only thing "romhacked" about this is removal of the outline glow from Juste and Maxim.
Everything else is vanilla visuals desaturated by 15% and darkened by 50%
It makes my ears bleed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhQgp4rkVs
>>342849687
OP,
i booted this up yesterday, i came out of the hospital after a surgery, and i looked to play something, and booted this up from my rom list, it sure looked cool, i liked the abilities and stuff, it stood out to the other castlevania's , but this music?
i thought for a minute it was gbc shit i was hearing.
Do you recommend this one?
AGREED
>>342850757
>A GBA masterpiece
Why did people hate Dawn of Sorrow so much? Other than the garbage artstyle for the character portraits and the seal shit, it was definitely the best DS CV.
>>342850757
Wanna know how I can tell you're underage and never grew up during NES era?
My favorite as well. I like how the characters and story are pretty much copy and pasted from Symphony.
>>342850867
Having played NES as a kid does not preclude having taste. Stop projecting.
>>342850757
This sounds good. What the fuck is the problem here?
>>342850793
>>342850848
>wah wah I can't stand 8bit music
How does it feel to be underage tasteless fucks? You clearly never played the original NES Castlevanias either.
>>342850878
>as well
I never said it's my favourite, just that it's underrated especially seeing how you can fix the colors when emulating.
>>342850865
It's just AoS 2.0.
Which isn't bad mind you. But it suffers from early DS game syndrome. By that I mean all the parts you have to use the touch screen.
Castlevanias
>Dracula X, CV1 , CV3
Metroidvanias
>OoE, AoS, HoD
But the castlevania i actually spent the most time on and enjoyed most was Harmony of Despair. Godamn i'd pay a lot of money for a pc port of that
>>342850976
>Shit taste
The music compositions are amazing, you're the only one with shit taste, see >>342850624 and then kill yourself.
Just because you can't handle the fact that the music uses 8-bit like soundfont doesn't change the fact that compositions are way beyond anything NES could ever do.
>>342850983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAz_4zHBT1M
sounds miles better than the shitfest that HoD's soundtrack was
Castlevania 1 was my first castlevania game too
How does it feel to be deaf?
>>342850865
Because it was generally a downgrade of AoS in every sense except for graphics.
>Having to soul-farm for the best weapons in the game
>Level and boss design is considerably more lacklustre
>Most of the weapon attack animations are notably worse and slowed-down
>Gimickly use of the touch-screen, particularly those shitty seals at the end of boss fights
Having said that, I still liked it a lot. Considerably more than PoR, at least.
>>342850867
I've likely completed more NES games than you. My first console was an NES and I played the first two Castlevanias to death (I had a friend with 3 but didn't own it myself). Don't tell me that music compares to great NES chiptunes just because it's low quality beeps and boops. It sounds like a shitty mobile ringtone from 2001.
>>342850624
>first
can't remember if it was CotM or AoS but they did it better
>second
indeed nothing to write home about
>third
this is a remix, not the original track that was in the game. please don't do this. we're talking about the game's soundtrack and qualities, not about the remixes.
it's also nothing fancy. it's bland and not at all amazing or anything.
>fourth
again, a remix. anon please.
literally every other castlevania game has AMAZING clock tower songs. HoD doesn't.
>fifth
again a remix
but yes the original is a good song
i agree
i love this song
but isn't the original from sotn? i could have sworn i heard it somewhere else before, and it sounded much better then.
HoD does not have a good soundtrack in comparison to literally any other of the gba/ds metroidvania games
anon you are making me sad
>>342849098
Juste is also the most underrated Castlevania protagonist next to Reinhardt.
Posting best boss theme in the series, bar none:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZkWCE06Iik
How to fix the colors and the glow:
Get Harmony of Dissonance US rom (make sure it's the single one and not the dualpack with Aria).
Get this: http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/677/
Patch the rom using the above using Lunar IPS
Then grab mGBA emulator and use the pic related settings for Shader Settings.
>>342851187
>miles better
Yeah you clearly are the deaf one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-A1NWI5Y1U
>>342851118
Maybe they should have released it for the NES if that's supposed to be an excuse for ass quality.
>>342851261
i was wrong about the first, hod was indeed the first and it's a great song
but you're still posting remixes and shit
like fuck off and post the originals or piss off ya cunt
>>342851343
Post the original Successor of Fate instead of a remix if you're going to argue about it being better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQxs-WEFRJY
>>342851260
Keep projecting even harder you cancerous faggot and see >>342850624
>>342851261
The first track is literally exclusive to HoD since it's the fucking main theme, try harder faggot, get cancer and die.
>indeed nothing to write home about
LMAO
>remix
Nope, it's the original midis extracted through the game with a better soundfont.
None of those are remixes, they are original compositions exactly the way they appear in the game, just with better quality samples for instruments.
>>342849098
I think the soundtrack is pretty solid actually, but the level design is easily the worst of the portable Castlevanias.
>>342851618
>exactly the way they appear in the game, except not
>>342851618
At least learn what projecting means, and then find out why you calling anyone underage is ironic.
>>342851583
>remix
Which part of sample quality do you not understand? And HoD's samples are directly NES tier.
As always, /v/ proves they're underage shitstains that only love to suck the SotN and DS games cock.
I hope every single one of you kills yourself.
That is all. I'm out of this thread now, enjoy eating shit since that's what you plebs do.
>>342850867
The fact that you're comparing the music to the NES and not the SNES says enough. The GBA is capable of SNES-like audio, even including vocal samples. I want you to compare a few of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq6MzXMvDis
That's directly from the GBA. It sounds significantly better than that garbage I posted earlier. Another example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA9FhBwRtoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXet5ggJvU
The GBA is WAY better than the NES for audio. Don't act like le retro makes it great.
>>342851618
literally all you do is go full berserk and max out your ad hominem skills
motherfucker debate me
fucking talk about what makes these tracks so amazing to you, when all the other games have much better soundtracks
>>342851258
>>Level and boss design is considerably more lacklustre
>boss design
Why do people keep saying DoS had worse bosses? All of them were far more interesting design wise, and were far more challenging fights than any boss in Aria (except Julius of course).
>>342851842
>this asshurt that no one likes his garbage castlemania
>>342851842
Mad as fuck.
>>342851901
Most of DoS bosses were pretty cool actually. I dunno why people are calling them bad.
>That one boss who smashes the floor and you fight it while freefalling
>>342849098
>but the compositions themselves are amazing, it's just the low quality of samples that hurts it.
What the fuck no, you have it exactly backwards. There is no fucking composition to speak of, every track is dissonant as fuck.
>>342849098
I don't think it's a terrible game but all the other metroidvanias shit on it.
Like you said it looks like garbage unless you go out of your way to fix it. The music sounds like shit, the compositions are alright but that doesn't matter if it sounds like diarrhea ingame.
And don't even get me started on the difficulty, SotN is piss easy but compared to this it's CV3 tier. The game is already easy as is but once you get the wind book, the game is over, you can just hadouken everything to death. If you've been stockpiling potions you can just spam hadoukens to his face while tanking his attacks and healing when you're low on HP. And stockpiling potions should not be an issue because the only threat in this game is the clusterfuck of a map you have to deal with once you get to the second castle. As easy as some of the other games can be (especially SotN and AoS), if you try to do that against the final boss you'll probably get your shit kicked in.
It's a shame, I like Juste but his game isn't all that good.
>>342851901
I don't remember a single challenging fight in DoS, to be honest. Even Menace and Abaddon were pretty easy. The hardest one was fighting Golgoth whilst underleveled, and even then that was only because of the boss arena was so tiny compared to the size of the actual boss.
>>342852274
Gergoth, even. Golgoth must be something else.
>>342852112
That was the best. Probably the most memorable moment of the game for me was when I was punching its chest with the Kaiser Knuckle weapon while it was falling down. Puppet Master, Zephyr, Aguni, and Abaddon were pretty cool too.
>>342852274
Harder=/=Hard. Aria's bosses were absolute jokes anyways.
The true most underrated Castlemania coming through
>>342852405
I suppose. Most Metroidvania bosses were pretty trivial regardless, with the exception of certain OoE bosses like that faggot Blackmore.
Also, that fucking Jiang Shi. Fuck that thing to death.
>>342852515
It's the most divisive, I wouldn't call it most underated.
>>342852515
A lot of people suck this game's dick almost daily, you might want to look up a definition of "underrated".
>>342852515
Not underrated, but definitely the best. I'd actually say the most underrated on the DS is PoR. Nobody gives it the praise it deserves. Everyone who likes the DS games says they get better every time with Ecclesia being best.
>>342852515
>underrated
Anon..
>>342852628
I'd say Ecclesia was the best handheld game of them all if half the game wasn't playing the exact same levels again.
Here's the most overrated IGAvania.
>>342852784
Well, it's going to be that or SotN. They're overrated for good reason though.
>>342852515
That game has a shit ton of love for it though. It's regularly said to be the best DS Castlevania.
I just realized recently, that game feels like they tried to redo Simon's Quest and make it actually good.
>>342852784
Which one exceeds it other than Symphony?
If we're talking underrated Castlevania I want to know if this is any good.
Never heard of or played it, I do know it apparently has 2 versions and is a port.
>>342852515
It has best waifu too.
>>342849098
I agree on all of this especially the music, but the true most underrated Castlevanias are Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness.
>>342853030
I played it a while back. It was pretty decent nothing special.
>>342852784
Aria of Sorrow is the best Igavania though.
>>342849098
>And the graphics are without a doubt best out of the GBA three
ayy
>especially after you fix the color palette and get rid of the glow.
"it would look good if it wasn't bad!"
>>342852959
>I just realized recently, that game feels like they tried to redo Simon's Quest and make it actually good.
-Hub-village with wierd people who'll gift you shit
-a series of monster-infested zones that aren't actually in Dracula's castle
-Dracula is actually destroyed but needs to be revived and re-killed to fix things
Yeah, I can see it.
>>342853030
it's just CV1 with better graphics and fancier music. So yeah it's good.
>>342850624
To be honest, the originals sound better than those
>>342852876
I'd say the only thing holding SotN back from being a perfect game is the slightly low difficulty. The rest of it's really solid. It's aged ridiculously well to the point where if it was released for the first time today it'd still be praised for its tight controls, gameplay and graphics. It's just a really solid game.
Having said that, there's been many improvements in the series since, most notably in the DS series, and the heights of the other games are better than SotN's. I think the main pro for SotN is that it doesn't have any particularly bad sections or glaring flaws (other than the inverted castle being tedious, but it's really cool that it exists at all). I prefer Ecclesia for challenge, gameplay and general quality but SotN is polished to a shine and a ton of fun. The DS games recycled sprites from a 10+ year old game and still looked amazing.
I've been playing this game recently.
It's definitely not underrated. It's by far the worst Metroidvania I've played. The enemies are boring and easy, the art is dull, the music is forgettable, and the whole castle feels annoying and contrived to navigate.
Good try at being contrarian though, OP.
>>342853232
>it's just CV1 with better graphics and fancier music
No it's not
The level design sucks
>>342853232
>better graphics
Brown everywhere.
>fancier music
If by fancier, you mean dated as fuck.
>>342853030
Why does Simon look like a shemale dominatrix in that game?
>>342853284
>the slightly low difficulty
I agree with your entire post except this. It's not "slightly" too easy, it's WAY too easy. There are so many different ways to fuck the game over it's actually entertaining in itself.
>>342853654
Being designed by Ayami Kojima can do that to you.
>>342853654
It was an odd time.
>>342851310
Wrong. Here is the best boss theme right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn-Oyk2PhF4
>>342853324
>No it's not
>implying Chronicles' level design is any different
found the memester
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/img/cv/maps/level-1.png
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/img/cc/maps/stage-1a.jpg
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/img/cc/maps/stage-1b.jpg
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/img/cc/maps/stage-1c.jpg
>>342853826
Best music thread? I feel like Reincarnated Soul is vastly underrated compared to Vampire Killer and Bloody Tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBr5ATbPMc0
>>342854030
>>342853680
>tfw using shield rod + alucard shield for the first time
>tfw finding the crissaegrim for the first time
>>342853680
Hell going at the game with just your fists is hilariously easy as fuck. Sure your range is shit but your damage output is stupidly good.
>>342854096
favorite boss theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZkWCE06Iik
>>342852178
>you can just hadouken everything to death
Not him but explain?
Which subweapon combo with wind book gives that?
I'll never understand what's with the hate for HoD. It was fun and mechanically was fine, sure nothing too special but it worked and it wasn't clunky like fucking CotM. And yes the sprites and music look and sound like shit but the art needed more polish and the music simply was too much for a weak 8mb GBA cartridge. The pieces themselves are really good.
>>342854096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nYV-Em4Dg
I still await the day it gets officially remixed.
>>342854096
Bloodlines has some damn good tracks.that need more love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncu6d24xM_Y
>>342854503
my favorite single track in the entire series
>>342854208
>finding about soul steal
>fucking soul steal
>being able to nuke the entire screen and heal as long as you have enough MP
>doesn't even cost that much MP anyway
>you can "steal" the soul of inanimate objects too, like candles or those invincible stone skulls in the inverted castle
>>342854367
Sacred fist or whatever it's called, the one that makes you go ORAORAORA when you use it without spells. You throw a hadouken that does insane damage and goes through enemies too. Enemies that are big enough will get hit twice by it. It's way too fucking strong.
>>342854380
that's the problem, it was ugly as sin and the music scratched your brain
it's like playing a great pc game in a potato tier PC at the lowest settings, you know it could be amazing but it looks like shit and detracts from your overall enjoyment.
>>342849098
I liked it.
>>342850748
So literally the only thing is this one thing, and then also the colors are completely different. You are honestly retarded.
>>342850748
So once you've fucked with the color palette and literally edited the most seen sprites, then it looks acceptable. That definitely means the game is the best looking. Especially for people who play it on an actual device and can utilize romhacks.
>>342854641
Cheers man, I always used the cross or bible combined with Wind book instead. Didn't know oraora is better.
>>342854824
But CotM is even more ugly and the musics are less memorable outside of the remixed tunes and yet people seem to love it.
>>342854393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxVr2kAiC2E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0-ZKIZJbNk
Closest you will ever get.
>>342855092
>But CotM is even more ugly
nah, it definitely looks sharper
>>342855092
NOTHING is uglier than HoD. Not "no Castlevania", nothing else in the universe is as unpleasant on the eyes as HoD.
>>342854824
Nigga but HoD actually looked great graphically on the original intended hardware (GBA) since that shit had no backlight and the visuals were oversaturated and overbright on purpose to compensate for that, its why op also used shaders to fix that apparently. Visually it has much more detail than CotM and the music compositions are more complex as well, altho marred by shitty samples.
>>342855214
what was Tears of Pain? Was that the cancelled Dreamcast game or the cancelled PS3 game or something?
>>342850979
Nothing, just millennials with shit taste bitching about everything as usual.
>>342855375
Well fuck. CotM looks indeed a lot sharper.
>>342855454
sorry m8 but everything falls apart when the argument boils down to "if you fixed it then it would be good"
>HoD actually looked great graphically on the original intended hardware (GBA)
CotM and Aria say hi
did yamane ever make non-gba versions of the songs?
they tend to do that usually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkGHq47L1RE
>>342849098
Yeah it looks the nicest but it's the fucking worst one of the 3.
It's smooth with dash but everything else besides graphics is trash.
I'd rather play either of the two again than touch this.
I'm just being honest.
>>342855214
Thanks anon. I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1dgfNG7ygA
>>342855017
Those aren't too bad either but they're mostly good if you want to dash through weak enemies without having to stop, although Thunder + Bible is better for this. Wind + Fist is the most straightforward one, you just shoot a high power projectile in front of you and mow down enemies.
>>342850865
i just thought it was boring overall
>>342850279
>It's at least better than Circle of the Moon
I dunno, CotM was honestly pretty good.
>>342852515
Fuck no. Order of Ecclesia is a good game but, especially here, it tends to be ridiculously overrated. The god awful stage design and the shitty loot system bring the whole thing down.
>>342855719
CotM and Aria literally look graphically worse on original hardware, for fucks sake HoD actually uses SotN sprites and backgrounds a lot, something that wasn't possible until DS. Aria and CotM have lower resolution and less detailed sprites and backgrounds than HoD.
>sorry m8 but everything falls apart when the argument boils down to "if you fixed it then it would be good"
How does it feel to be a retard with no reading comprehension? It NEEDS to be fixed when emulating since the game wasn't designed with fucking emulators in mind, but original GBA hardware on which it looks as intended.
>>342856114
when was the lat time you played it?
went through all of them again recently and it's definitely one of the weaker games
>>342855470
Fanmade Classicvania with branching paths that was cancelled, was going to be a fanfic prequel to 1999.
>>342854096
This song is fucking annoying, more so that they put it in Rebirth instead of Battle of the Holy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0h0sxTza4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxpLVYoz1Q
>>342855375
>take direct feed screenshot for CotM
>and blurry compressed youtube one for HoD
>from two different locations no less
>not cherrypicked at all
this game got a lot of undeserved shit for reusing sprites from all the other games, but that was pretty much the point of the whole thing. It was a weird greatest hits mashup that mixed the styles of both classic and modern games. Smallish stages ending with bosses mixed with some exploration and traversal options that lead to different characters having unique paths to get around stages, characters had mechanics and abilites based on the games they came from (soma can harvest souls for different perks and skills, alucard has shapeshifting forms, richter has his special input moves, etc) Not the best castlevania by any means but it was a ton of fun and i think most people overlook it.
>>342856390
>for fucks sake HoD actually uses butchered SotN sprites and backgrounds at lower-res a lot
fixed
>Aria and CotM have lower resolution and less detailed sprites and backgrounds than HoD.
it has proper sprites adapted to GBA's resolution, instead of ripped sprites downscaled to hell
>but original GBA hardware on which it looks as intended.
like I said, CotM and Aria say hi.
>>342855831
Yeah I use the cross one for bosses and the bible one for exploration for dat quick screen clear.
>>342853826
That shit was SO fucking tense in the japanese version of Castlevania 3, god damn.
https://youtu.be/hzLxo5ggE6I
>tfw it gets faster
>>342855375
It's funny because the art direction in HoD was because of complaints that the one in CotM made it difficult to properly see things.
And because of the need of beefier graphics in HoD they had to downgrade the sound.
>>342856634
>implying there are two exact same areas in both games for a "fair" comparison
ayy
>c-cherrypicking! HoD looks SO MUCH BETTER than that!
go ahead and post some glorious screenshots then. let's all behold such a beauty that not even OP could provide.
>>342853826
Wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnFphmOYhI
>>342856636
I liked it, and none of my friends wanted to join in on the fun cuz of the few levels.
I enjoyed the looking for weapons and playing as a group of Castlevania protags of different games.
You can easily break the game though by getting overpowered.
I didn't know HoD had a defense force, I played all of the GBA Castlevanias and HoD is the weakest of the three, it doesn't mean it's a bad game, but the other two games were better in almost every way.
>>342856636
Turns out that game was directed by Curry the Kid, one of the major programmers on the GBA and DS games, who's working on Bloodstained now. It gives me hope.
>>342856698
>like I said, CotM and Aria say hi.
Which part of HoD looks graphically better on GBA than Aria and CotM do you not understand? But clearly theres no point arguing with you since you dumb and blind nigga
>>342856636
I fucking loved that game. Chapter 10 was my favorite map.
>>342849098
I've been thinking about getting into Castlevania, which games are worth playing, where should start, any tips?
>>342849098
Which one is that? I clearly havent played it yet but I want to.
>>342857181
>Which part of HoD looks graphically better on GBA than Aria and CotM do you not understand?
the part where there's no evidence to support that claim.
>But clearly theres no point arguing with you since you dumb and blind nigga
>doesn't post a single shot
>YOU BLIND NIGGA
lmao what am I supposed to see?
remember guys.
kid dracula is canon
>>342856932
CotM has skeleton cave location as well, go on, post something that looks better from that location.
>>342857204
almost all of them honestly
they are pretty consistent when it comes to quality
>>342857503
Stop posting your doctored bullshots first, tardlicker.
So how can I play The Adventure Rebirth? And is Rondo if Blood good?
>>342857617
I just used the settings posted by op in this thread, this is the closest you can get to showing the game how it actually looks on gba, but go on try harder with shitposting
>>342857204
IV
Bloodlines
Symphony of the Night
Casltevania
Castlevania 2
Castlevania 3
Castlevania 64
Circle of the Moon
Castlevania Chronicles
Dracula X
Castlevania Adventure
Belmonts Revenge
Legends
Legacy of Darkness
Harmony of Dissonance
Aria of Sorrow
Lament of Innocence
Dawn of Sorrow
Curse of Darkness
Rondo of Blood
Adventure Rebirth
Portrait of Ruin
Dracula X Chronicles
Order of Ecclesia
Don't bother with Lords of Shadow
>>342857652
probably dolphin.
and yes rondo of blood is great.
if you have a psp get dracula X chronicles.
you can get the original version and sotn with most of the saturn stuff added in
>>342857204
Castlevania
Castlevania III (Japanese Famicom version)
Rondo of Blood
Chronicles
Bloodlines
SoTN (if you wanna know what's all the fuss about)
and that's pretty much it.
You can safely skip the others
>>342857757
That's because you are OP. This thread is pointless and you're being disingenuous and dumbly contrarian. It's the worst game on GBA. There's no argument.
>>342856515
Holy shit, why would they do that?
>>342857652
You can probably emulate it.
>And is Rondo if Blood good?
Yes.
>>342857204
Literally all of them, no matter which one you start with they're all good with the exception of Mirror of Fate and Lords of Shadow 2 which have some good qualities but the bad outweigh the good, contrary to /v/ hipster mindset Lords of Shadow 1 is pretty good but its quite different from other games
I hate how the game looks.
I hate how the game moves and feels.
I hate the OST.
I hate that it's one of the few Metroidvanias with an extra castle of content wasted on this shit.
I hate how the whip is mandatory, but without the good feeling of CotM's whip movement/the customizability of CotM's DSS.
I hate the plot and characters.
I don't like anything about HoD.
>>342857503
>CotM has skeleton cave location as well
nope
>>342857919
>literally no counterarguments
>resorting to petty insults and ad hominem
If anything you sound like op to me desu senpai
Harmony of Dissonance was fucking trash
>>342857925
IGA is a fucking retard assuming he had a hand at the music selection.
>>342857975
Catacomb is the one i was thinking of
>>342857652
You can emulate Adventure Rebirth on Dolphin.
Grab Dracula X Chronicles on PSP for best versions of Rondo and SotN (though you need to unlock them first by playing the 3D remake of Rondo)
The most underrated Castlevania is Circle of the Moon.
>>342858119
IGA had literally nothing to do with Adventure Rebirth.
All 3 Rebirth games were made by M2 for anniversaries of Castlevania, Gradius and Contra respectively
>>342858184
>Catacomb is the one i was thinking of
see that selection over the name, faget?
that's because I went there and checked the screenshots to see if it remotely looked ANYTHING like it
guess what? it doesn't so if you were really thinking of it then you clearly don't know what you're talking about
>>342857503
you keep adjusting the colors of every screenshot you post, the actual game doesn't look like that.
>>342858060
>music sounds like shit
>graphics look like shit (even with your filters juste looks like a clown)
>cheezy visual "flowing liquid" effects
>majority of game is filler and wasted space
>not many weapons and the ones that exist are OP
There's nothing this game has on the others. CotM is at least challenging and doesn't rape your eyes. AoS is as close as you can get to a SotN tour-de-force on GBA.
HoD has far less content than AoS and lacks the challenge of CotM. It has nothing to recommend it. Even OP had to put some shitty filters on it to brag about it.
>>342858360
It says he was the producer.
>>342858453
>hurr durr i cant read the thread
>>342857204
First of all you should now that Symphony of the Night on PS1 was a turning point for the series. The style of gameplay completely changed, it went from a straightforward "go from point A to point B" platformer to a huge map you have to explore to unlock powerups and shit that will allow you to access new areas. That's when Metroidvanias showed up and what we call Classicvanias pretty much stopped.
They did try an open world thing in Castlevania 2 back then but that shit was way too cryptic (the shitty translation didn't help) and the level design was way inferior to Castlevania 1. Still a classic but it's not very good and you're not beating it without a guide.
Basically, if you want Classicvania, start with 1. You can avoid 2 if you want. 3 is really fucking difficult but it's good as well. I'd recommend playing the japanese version of 3 if you can, the US version is more difficult but the music was butchered. If you can't take how stiff the NES games are, try Super Castlevania IV, it doesn't feel as stiff because you can whip in 8 directions and you can control your jumps in midair. The game after that is Rondo of Blood, it's a PC engine game and a good one at that. Watch out, Dracula X on the SNES might look like a straight port but it's quite different. There was also a remake of it on PSP.
If you want Metroidvania, start with Symphony of the Night and I'd say try them all in release order. Harmony of Dissonance (the one OP mentioned) is pretty much the weakest one and I don't think it's that bad of a game. There were two PS2 games, people don't seem to agree on whether they're good or not. I think they're alright, Lament of Innocence reminds me of DMC1 at times and Curse of Darkness is pretty good as well, arguably better than Lament.
There were also N64 games but I haven't played them so I can't tell you much about them. They don't look look like a successful attempt to take Castlevania into the 3D era but I've seen people defend them.
>>342858812
you are so mad everybody is calling you out on your bullshit
>NES
I > III > II
>GBA
CoM > AoS > HoD
>DS
OoE > DoS > PoR
>Assorted consoles
Dracula X > Super IV > Bloodlines > SotN > Everything else
>>342856515
>>342857925
>>342858119
It was also supposed to have Lost Painting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYX3hBgv_Ak
HoD plays like shit and sounds worse
>>342857790
This.
>>342859025
That's a good track but I can't not associate it with how they reused it for like half the areas in the inverted castle in SotN.
every metroidvaniaexcept dawn of sorrowwas a better game than the previous
but still none of them were perfect, they always had some major flaw that left you hoping for the next game to polish out that final kink
Bloodlines any good?
>>342859348
Its very good.
>>342859007
III > I >>> II
CoM > AoS > HoD
DoS > PoR = OoE (OoE has too much wasted potential and filler to be at the top, imo)
SotN > Rondo of Blood > IV > Bloodlines > DracX > Everything else
Overall:
SotN > all
>tfw the 1999 game is gone forever
>we'll never know st germain's role in everything
https://youtu.be/x9K0zrHbO1U?t=1m25s
What was the deal with the "decorate your own room" part at some point?
>>342859537
If you collect everything, in the ending it shows Lydie resting on Juste's shoulder. That's literally it.
>>342849098
this is the only HoD I acknowledge in the series.
too bad it was MP-focused but it's still far superior to that crap nonetheless.
The main character's walk cycle looked terrible. I could never get over it.
>>342859537
To show Juste he has a promising career as a home decorator. Bitches love a man that can decorate.
>>342859537
Juste wanted to be fashionable.
>>342859537
Getting everything gives you a slightly different ending. And by "slightly" I mean that Juste's love interest will hold his arm in the ending cutscene. That's about it if I remember correctly. It's just a side thing you can do if you like collecting shit. Don't bother.
>>342859732
not as bad as maxim's
holy shit
>>342852515
Best handheld CV. Best Castlevania girl.Post Shanoa
>>342859732
And when he whips he has that stiff cape & q ball at the end. Not a good look.
>>342859537
A silly collectathon done for fun, like sitting on every chair in Curse of Darkness
>collect all that nice shit
>all goes down with the castle
was honestly mad
>>342849098
Speaking of music, I'm glad to report that Bloodstained's OST is shaping up fucking great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2gzAUb8ArU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok3LKNx_DIk
>>342859525
>we'll never know st germain's role in everything
>implying he wasn't just a reverse self-insert of IGA himself
western / weeb
classy / hobo
top hat / cowboy hat
both are spectators of the universe's events
both know everything that's going on but can't interfere or tell anyone about it
>>342856636
It's literally Grinding: the game yet I loved playing it in multiplayer. Somehow it was fun trying to clear chapters on a 6 maria team with everyone constantly spamming phrases.
Only downside is some characters are clearly stronger than others, and it really could've used soem more maps. Fuck I'd still shill out some money for more maps.
>>342852515
>reach Dracula
>he literally kicks you
God, I loved this game.
Daily reminder that Konami actively killed Castlevania and we will never ever get a game set in 1999 and starring Julius on his quest to finally kill Dracula for good
>>342860259
The ending was sad as fuck.
I wonder if the devteam knew it was the last 2Dvania.
>>342860064
shaping up nicely
i'm really glad this is working out.
it won't be castlevania anymore, but not having to live without these kind of games is nice
>>342849850
>90% long empty corridors especially late in the game.
Just like SotN.
>>342849098
It's only a 5.5/10, it's the only GBA Castlevania that I didn't replay.
>>342860312
Erotic Pachinko Violence
>>342860312
We don't need a reminder to know that Konami is garbage nowadays.
>>342856636
it deserved some buckets of shit for not having a decent story mode with properly balanced content for solo.FUCK CHAPTER 6FUCK KOREAN MMO DROP RATES
>>342860259
i don't think anyone expected that.
i just wish the fight didn't end the way it did.
>>342849098
HoD Checklist:
- forward and backward dashing
- sub weapons
- magic
- sub weapons & magic combinations
- old school whip OR multi-directional OR hold 'n swing (your choice)
- whip customization (elements, charge up, etc)
- tons of bosses
- fast gameplay
- creepy and uncomfortable setting
Yeah, I don't know why this game gets shit on so bad. It isn't the best but it offers so much to work with.
>>342860312
Kojima actually did. He was wasting Konami's budget and resources for other games so his shitty MGS games could be made.
>>342860458
No, HoD has literally flat, repetitive, long corridors that you can just run through. No terrain to navigate at all. Just flat.
>>342860681
i like mgs, but him advocating LoS over iga really put a bad taste in my mouth
>>342860628
Metrovanias are like pizza. Still the worst one though.
>>342860312
it's like asking for a FF7 Remakae, no matter how good it could be it will always be shat on for not living up to the massive hype.
Igarashi already said in one of the Bloodstained FAQ videos that he would've wanted to make it as a god-tier game but it would be impossible considering the budget the series had so far.
>>342860856
Fuck, I can't believe someone else knows about that. Everytime I bring that up when Lords of Shadow is discussed, fucking retards ignore like it never happened. Kojima single handily destroyed Konami.
>tfw there will never be a SotN port with the Saturn Additions
I've heard that most of it was iffy, but it'd be nice to have.
Finished Dawn of Sorrow recently. Should I move on to Portrait of Ruin or Order of Ecclesia next?
>>342861228
You can play as Maria in the PSP version, I think she's different than in the Saturn version but that's something I guess.
>>342861228
Pretty sure it had a Maria mode, which would be very nice to have on a modern port.
>>342861253
play OoE last.
you'll need the warmup
>>342861253
PoR, then OoE
Imo each DS game is better than the last so you'll appreciate them most if you play them in that order
>>342861228
You can watch vids of them on YouTube. Bretty bad--3rd party expansion tier.
Like Hellfire for Diablo or D!ZONE.
I think the game's stronger without them. The Saturn port is just clunko in general, too.
>>342861337
Yeah. She played different in the PSP version.
>>342861385
>>342861394
Alright sounds good. By the way I would like to mention I LOVED Aria and Dawn. I'm not sure if these games will top them but we'll see.
>>342861228
i'm pretty sure that x chronicles has sotn with all that.
trade off is yuri lowenthall alucard, but i can live with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRAbUE1wSg4
>>342861131
>Everytime I bring that up when Lords of Shadow is discussed, fucking retards ignore like it never happened. Kojima single handily destroyed Konami.
that's because it's wrong.
>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-20-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-mercury-steams-mission-to-be-the-next-naughty-dog
>Then, in a curious twist, Lords of Shadow launched to better than expected sales. Indeed it became the best-selling Castlevania game ever. Predictably, publisher Konami requested a home console sequel, which put Mercury Steam, which had already started work on the handheld game, in a tricky position.
sure it wasn't the Igavania everybody wanted but it brought Konami more money than the other games
>b-but it ruined the series
Castlevania had other spinoffs before LoS, nigga
ever heard of this hugely successful masterpiece that generated tons of profits?
>>342860259
>try to jump over him when he does the classic fireball
>literally pimpslaps you back down to earth
Best dracula fight next to the Death duo fight in PoR.
>>342860681
>>342860856
>>342861131
DELETE THIS!
>>342861857
what does sony have to do with that?
Lords of shadow is multiplat
>>342861815
Can you even call LoS a spinoff? Pretty sure they themselves called it a reboot and the new mainline, and that's why people hate it
>>342861815
>muh god of war brought in that CoD BRO DOUGH! OOORAH
Normalfags ruining everything good and noble in the world, as usual
Dawn of Sorrow was good but man I can never get over Soma's butchered design.
Good thing he wasn't in Judgment.
goddamnit I wanted a full game where Dawn of Sorrow's bad end actually had Yoko killed and was canon. Julius mode was neat but I wanted more.
>>342861815
May have been a shit game, but holy fuck that OST was godly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19e6rii7Pso
>>342861815
>that's because it's wrong
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/08/02/hideo-kojima-turned-lords-of-shadow-into-castlevania-lords-of-shadow/
Fuck off you piece of shit. If you enjoyed of LOS kill yourself. Judgement actually still had the spirit of Castlevania in it and it also had good music.
>>342862097
I missed the pimp coat dammit.
Hated his generic jacket for DoS.
>>342862097
I mean look at it
>>342851854
>>342851854
People need to learn that the GBA is a capable machine. That Golden Sun boss music sounds like something from SotN. Being on the GBA is no excuse for the abomination that was HoD.
>>342862016
>reboot
so what? DmC didn't replace the main series.
>and the new mainline
it was always meant to be a trilogy.
>http://www.mtv.com/news/2466622/dracula-bites-back-mercurysteam-boss-dave-cox-on-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-mirror-of-fate-and-lords-of-shadow-2/
>Multiplayer: Where’s “Lords of Shadow 2” development at this point?
Cox: It’s pretty far along. When the game is finished, it’s finished, so there’s no pressure on us for the moment to say it will be out X—there’s no date. We’re working towards a date internally, but there is no official date yet. This will be the last “Castlevania” game we do, and we want it to be special. We want to leave a legacy behind and have people see the “Lords of Shadow” trilogy and say, “Wow, these guys did something fucking amazing.” We want it to be left in the “Castlevania” history and leave a legacy and be proud. It’s great people get into it as well. If you get an opportunity to work on a project like this you have to take it with both hands and give it everything you can.
so the theory of it replacing igavanias permanently was just fearmongering from shitposters on here, gamefaqs and reddit.
>>342862013
Hideo Kojima is the biggest Sonyfag in the world and his fanbase is consisted of Sonyggers. Please tell me you're not this fucking stupid.
>>342862386
Looks fine really. The anime face is definitely far inferior to Kojima's ladyboy faces, but the only thing that really bugs me here is that his swagtastic coat is missing the fur collar.
>>342862386
That looks fine. It reminds me of Yugioh.
>>342862580
>sonyggers are to blame for a multiplat game
>I'm supposedly the stupid one here
I take it you're a buttmad nintenyearold who's lost his exclusive series? or is all this rage coming from misinformation?
>>342862314
I really hate Kojima. Fucking hack deserves to die.
>>342862097
RIP
>>342862518
>we want it to be special. We want to leave a legacy behind and have people see the “Lords of Shadow” trilogy and say, “Wow, these guys did something fucking amazing.” We want it to be left in the “Castlevania” history and leave a legacy and be proud.
ayy
then again, to be fair it was Enric Alvarez who screwed up with the sequel, which killed the franchise. maybe Cox could have saved it.
>>342862386
honestly i'm pretty sure that and PoR looking the way it did was a way to try and bring in more people.
it didn't work that well though and pissed off half the fanbase.
>>342862653
>missing the fur collar
That and the boots
I know it's the future and all but still
>>342862314
oh no! the game was ruined because it was allowed to have Dracula in it!
>Judgement actually still had the spirit of Castlevania in it
AYY
a shitty fighting game is TOTALLY the way to be successful in a 2D metroidvania genre. EVERYBODY liked it!
nice name-calling btw. it proves I'm right.
>>342855214
There's also this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFS3Hh1IxvA
>>342856636
It would have been one of the best Castlevania games if it wasn't for the horrible drop rates and character balance, as well as the need for grinding. Playing as Charlotte with a team of Somas isn't fun, but I did have a wonderful time when I was playing with friends.
>>342855214
I like that guy's Castlevania arrangements. I love his version of the CotM Clockwork.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJqm3oqtGs
>>342863910
Sounds like something from Touhou
>>342864246
I guess the horrible drop rates were there to compensate the lack of maps
>>342859187
>how they reused it for like half the areas in the inverted castle in SotN.
That wasn't Lost Painting.
>>342862386
>>342862097
wait fuck
soma is a man?
>>342867137
you don't know what xe identifies as, shitlord, fuck off.
>>342867137
there is a really handsome manly vampire lord living within that fuccboi
why was julius so OP?
>>342867640
He knew too much.
>>342867640
he trained hard to do something the other belmondos never tried: get rid of drac permanently
Remember how in the USA version of Aria of Sorrow Soma was a foreign exchange student but in the original Japanese student he was just Japanese instead? Fucking Japanese people forcing their power fantasies of being super powerful vampires.
