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>What's goo-ing on in this thread? (Slurp)
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Heal slimes are the best DQ slimes. Prove me wrong.
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>>342843254

As a DQ and musou fan, i loved this game.

Good online co-op musou when?
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>>342845642
I loved DQH and played for around 40 hours even though three "normal" Musou games bored me after playing an hours each.
It even convinced me to try the main DQ games, finished 1-6.

Also, Terry is the best character.
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>>342845520
No
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Wish I could do 4k on DQH
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I'm about 5 hours in.
Game has been extremely boring so far.
Does it get better or should I stop right now?
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>>342846456
It does when they stop doing the tower defense missions towards the end

Overall it's not amazing but I still got 30 hours out of it
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>mfw finding old nintendo powers with strategies on DW1,2, 3 and Monsters 1&2 for the gbc
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>>342846921
Nintendo REALLY wanted people to get into DQ like the Nips. Sadly DQ1 was too little too late in 1989. I still have all 4 NES DQ games and played and beat them all. Mostly thanks to Nintendo Power.
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>>342843254
THIS IS DRAGON QUEST.

IT IS MADE OF CONSISTENCY AND SOLID GAMEPLAY.
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>>342847212
It was strategies for the gbc games actually and it really is a shame they waited so long on DQ for over here considering how much of a success it was in Japan maybe it would have been better recieved if we got it a few years earlier.
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>>342848416
Dragon Quest wasn't a major hit right away. It snowballed. Even Horii said it wasn't until Dragon Quest 3 massive success that they knew they captured the masses there which came out in 1988. And Enix spent a ton of money getting the NES games over here. And after that failing horribly they didn't want to waste money again. Which is weird considering Enix published other SNES RPG over here but not DQ. They was word of DQ6 coming over here but never happening.

I'm just sad we never got the SNES 1-3 nor 4 for PSX.
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>>342848416
Not like they really could've known, it didn't explode in Japan until Dragon Quest 3 in 1988
So it makes sense that they didn't try to bring it over until after that
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>>342847934
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When do the 3DS ports come out?
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>>342849818
Just know DQ7 and Builders. Still no official release date for DQ8.
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>>342847212
DQ1 was creepy as fuck. Legit terror inducing.
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>>342850118
DQ2 is even more horrific.
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I loved the sense of adventure, progression and feeling strong after so much battles in Dragon Quest I, is there another DQ that's like it?
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What's the best way to play 1 to 3?

Is there any portable way to do so? I travel a lot, and would love to play them.

I have a PSP, is there a good emulated version of them on that, like a SNES remaster or some shit?
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>>342850529
All the later Dragon Quest games give you a party instead of being solo but otherwise the gameplay hasn't changed much since then, which is a good thing.
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>>342850678
There's also 3
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>>342850739
Going solo was the best, every achievement felt personal and very rewarding (rescuing the princess), every connection with you ancestor felt mythical and you could feel the pressure of being the descendant of such a legendary hero, everything you found felt a huge victory, every battle felt life-threatening and tense, each level felt like a huge gap of power.
DQ should return to that.
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>>342850281
>Final area in the game is harsh and unforgiving

I liked Rhone.
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>>342850678
Still annoyed SE hasn't released NES and GBC on VC. It's not like it would take any effort.
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NEW ROCKET SLIME FUCKING WHEN
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>>342851430
Never
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>>342851179
Fuck this guy. Gave me more game over than other bosses combined
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>>342852089
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>>342846047
>pssh Nothing personnel Terry
>best

Pick one
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>>342849940
>DQVII
>DQ Builders
>Pokemon Sun
>MHX

A good day to own PS4/3DS
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>>342843254
Is the english version full of puns like that?

I remember something similar in Rocket Sliime
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>>342855802
Any monsters that talk usually have some kind of verbal tic like that. It's not always puns though.
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>>342853714
He's not that edgy though. He just doesn't give a shit about anything other than getting stronger. Also, he has some amazing voice acting in the Japanese version. Any weeb would recognize it.

And he's just nice to play in DQH with his moveset, skills and the ability to do those three consecutive spinning jumps that can be used to get somewhere faster.

>>342855802
It sure is.
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>>342856952
>Also, he has some amazing voice acting in the Japanese version

there's no japanese version anon this is dual audio, also I recognize Kamiya when I hear him, and he has that Edgy vibe all aver him
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>>342851819
I dont care about anything else. DragonQuest can burn in hell if they wont give me it
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>Just started playing through DQV
>Think Pankraz is going to be a badass party member and top tier father when my character grows up
I honestly didn't ask for this.
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>>342859335
Buckle your ass up
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>>342859583
This is probably one of the rare times a game made me sad. All he wanted was to reunite his family.
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>>342859867
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For some reason I always lose motivation to keep playing DQ8 after killing Dhoulmagus. I know almost half the game is left, I've beaten it twice before, but now in replays I can't help but feel like the part of the game that I love is over and there's no point in going on.
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Fuck off, Honeywood.
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>>342861089
Really? I always liked the parts of the game where things really open up after getting the ship and being able to go almost everywhere. The only part that bugs me on replays is Godbird Isle since it's big and fucking empty besides some treasure chests.
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Holy fuck do they still make dragon warrior monster games? like with similar mechanics and everything?

That game was the first I ever played and I played to completion, breeding my dudes over and over to get the "god" monsters was so fun.
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>>342861158

Aw come on, it's not so baa-d
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>>342861250

I didn't like how the villain for 90% of the next section of the game is a dog
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>>342861417
Yes. They haven't been released outside of Japan since Joker 2 on the DS though.
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Playing DQVI, I'm at the point where you have to go up the tower to defeat a mage that is holding a princess in a mirror.

This game is getting SO FUCKING BORING. The whole class system is shit, the whole "ADVENTURE" feel is almost nowhere to be found. This guy has hardly a reason to fight at this point, he is just going around solving problems or shit just to get a new ride to the next area with a problem. This is getting boring so fast, things started getting so much worse after the defeat of that lizard guy in the dream world.
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>>342852089
God what a cunt. Only reason he was easier than atlas was because his spells did less damage giving you some breathing time and, IIRC, he only acts once per round.
>immune to ailments
>can cast healall even in non-NES versions
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-
>>342853239
>stopspell
>sleep if that doesn't work
Eyyy lamarr.
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>>342861650
Fuck, is joker 2 (and I'm assuming joker one) playable?
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>>342861419
>filename

>>342861510
Yeah but then the game lets you beat the faggotry out of Marcello
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>>342847934
tl;dr
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>>342861769

I can't help it, I love bad puns.
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>>342861767
Yeah. The servers for the online tournaments are long dead though, but that part was totally optional. They're pretty good, although I liked Joker 1 more than Joker 2.
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>>342861853

It's a series that lets you actually feel like you're going on a real adventure, without being tied down by the angst and cliches of modern jrpgs.
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It always throws me off how relatively reliable status ailments and instant death abilities can be in this series. Cast Thwack on a group of enemies that aren't immune to it and it'll usually kill half of em.
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Should I wait for DQ7 on 3ds or emulate ps1 now?
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>>342862079
Wait for 3DS. It improves on pretty much every aspect of the original.
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>play dragon quest viii
>only dragons I ever run across are sea dragons
huh
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>>342861741
>This guy has hardly a reason to fight at this point
WAY TO NOT READ
>pre-game Prince wants to rid the world of a terrible demon, despite everyone telling him not to because he might get killed
>shit happens, he does so
>literally gets told that there are other demons in the world just as strong, and some even stronger
>fuck that shit, world ain't safe yet, time to make it so, does so
>then hears that there is an even bigger demon ruining shit across fucking dimensions
>goes to the biggest demon's home turf to put that shit to an end, DESPITE THE VERY WORLD SAID DEMON LIVES IN SUCKING AWAY HIS VERY LIFE FORCE
>finds a way to keep that shit from happening
>kills said greatest demon
>goes back home, knowing shit's gonna be alright, then proceeds to do Kingly shit
Best Prince, fuck you.
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>>342861874
shit boy looks like Igot some games to play, shame we won't be getting more though. Cheers!
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>>342862338

You forgot Thorn Dragons

And did you forget to do the stuff after the final boss?
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>>342862338
Did you actually finish the game?
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>>342862072
Welcome to JRPGs that aren't FF.

Actually, even in FF some statuses are extremely good. For example the third fight against seymour in FFX is extremely easy if you know that he is weak to bio, just like the death wall in FFIV. Status effects are so underrated.
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>>342861769
>marcello doesn't stab himself in the arm anymore
>david doesn't eat dogfood anymore
>turns out the real dhoulmagus dindu nuffin
GAAAAAAAY
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>>342862418
Well we're fucking FINALLY getting DQ7 and 8's 3DS remakes, if we're lucky we might get Joker 3. Fingers crossed.
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>the Dragon Quest Monster Encyclopedia has pages just about monsters that debuted in Terry's Wonderland 3D and X

It's not fair...
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>>342862338
>play dragon quest
>there is always a dragon that is at least partially relevant to the plot
>ALWAYS
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>>342862338
You didn't get the True Ending.
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>>342862679
I NEED -SCANS-
AND PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN
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Why are dragon quest monsters the most appealing ones in video games? Pokemon are nice and all but DQ monsters manage to have some level of Digimon weird going without going full on belts and bullshit
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>>342861853
Stick with Final Fantasy if you're too lazy to read.
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>>342862906
Because Toriyama is a master at making good monster designs.

Not so good at character designs.
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>>342862906
Because Toriyama is happiest when he's making monsters and machines.
Even some of the throwaway mecha and vehicles he's made for literally single page instances of dragon ball are cool looking.
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>>342863074
This guy comes up with a surprise attack and double crits you in the anus
What do you do?
That's a trick question, because you're now dead.
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>>342862506
In FF Tactics 2, statuses were really useful. And there are some (time magic and stuff) that even late-game enemies aren't immune to.
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>>342862389
Too bad that nothing like that is told AT ALL after he kills the big bad in dream world. They literally tell "uh yeah you should find yourself or something if you feel to" and that's it. The whole "there might be more big bads around" gets told just after you defeat that guy eating the lazy people, but nothing more. At the point I am, he is literally just stumpling around randomly killing random evildoer no.23422 without any kind of true objective in mind. Being swept around by the events is cool, but this is too much. And the whole poor job system isn't making this any funnier.

The fact that he just happens to "hear" that there is a interdimensional dude fucking shit up is shit by itself, it just feels like the developers noticed that there was no true final objective -a true QUEST- and put a completely random final boss.
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>>342847934
i read this and now i am going to play dragon quest.
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>>342863023
>Not so good at character designs.
Sameface is a bit of a problem but as long as he keeps making all these grade A semen demons I don't give a shit
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>>342862079
DQ7 is a fucking long game, ~200 hours. Just wait few months.
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>>342863358
>The fact that he just happens to "hear" that there is a interdimensional dude fucking shit up is shit by itself, it just feels like the developers noticed that there was no true final objective -a true QUEST- and put a completely random final boss.
Wow, much like every other DQ ever, even the first.
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>>342863907
But that's wrong
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>>342863907
You start off the game that you have to kill a dragon. They literally tell you in the very first minutes what is your objective.

You end the game by killing said dragon.

Fuck off.
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>>342864308
Why would The Descendant show up to the castle in the first place then? Was he just visiting? He didn't even have proof that he was The Descendant.
They also locked the door behind him.
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>>342843254
I'm playing DQ2 on the NES right now, trouying to find the 5 crests. I've got three so far but I feel like this is rather ridiculous. How much more do I have to go? I want to finish 1-6 before 7 comes out on the 3ds.
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>>342864674
>How much more do I have to go?
YOU JUST SAID YOU FOUND 3
OUT OF 5
COME ON MANG
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>>342864838
I meant in the game as a whole.
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>>342865039
Depends.
Which crests do you have?
You have likely missed one really obvious one or you still have one kinda tough one to get.
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>>342865134
>really obvious
Sorry.
I mean "really NOT obvious". My bad.
The only obvious thing is how many people miss it.
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>>342862906
Because you have seen them a thousand times and you're too fond to their designs.
Also, even toriyamas monsters feel same facey.
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>>342865134
I've got the water, sun and moon crests.
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>>342865270
Quit only knowing about the slimes.
>>342865327
Go get the fire crest and you're set.
Then you have to go to rhone, fall in a pit near the beginning, and find it in a chest.
Before you go to rhone though,
I HOPE YOU HAVE THE EVIL STATUE/EYE OF MALROTH
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>>342865672
>find it
I mean the life crest.
Fire crest is in the torchy/warp island.

YOU DO HAVE A SHIELD OF STRENGTH FOR EVERY CHARACTER RIGHT?
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>>342862962
But all Final Fantasy games are deeper and more complex both gameplay and story wise than any Dragon Quest game.
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>>342847934
This image is so fucking awful. It's just blatant jacking off to the series.
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>>342866564
You're cute.
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>>342862906
>monster
looks like a perfectly normal bat to me.
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>>342863023
Monsters are characters as well.
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>>342866747
They really are. You can't name a single Dragon Quest game with deeper gameplay than Final Fantasy V for example.
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>>342866879
Dragon Quest VII
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>>342866564

You're right. I think most DQ fans accept this, because more complex does not equal better anyway. But there are some who feel threatened by FF and its fanbase and will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to make it out at the objectively better series.
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>>342867062
Dragon Quest 7 didn't handle its job system nearly as well as FFV though.
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>>342867062
>DQ7
>deep
Nah.
Literally grind to win, and I love DQ7.
Monster class system was just an altered version of the normal class system, but with extra perks such as element and ailment resistances (and weaknesses).
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>>342866879
>Abloo bloo
>If it's more complex then it's better
Like Lulu's belt dress, right fag?
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>>342869635
I'm just pointing out the irony in saying
>Stick with Final Fantasy if you're too lazy to read.
When you like Dragon Quest.
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>>342869635
>Character designer Tetsuya Nomura gave Lulu numerous belts to test the graphics developers to see if they could get the exact combination, number of belts, and overall design correct every time.
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why is Psaro such a bitch in heroes
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>>342862906
Toriyama is better at designing monsters and robots in all honesty. I like the DQ monster design as they have a great balance of cartoony and deadly. Although goofier I also enjoy the monster design in the mother series.

Even the simples NES sprites have so much character and charm.
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All I want for Christmas is a DQXI localization
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>>342843254
The fact that so many anons still name Dragon Quest "the greatest or most significant or most influential" RPG ever only tells you how far the genre still is from becoming a serious art. FPS critics have long recognized that the greatest first person shooters of all times are Duke Nukem and DOOM, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Puzzle games critics rank the highly controversial Bejeweled over classical games that were highly popular with kids around the world. RPG critics are still blinded by commercial success: Dragon Quest sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. FPS critics grow up playing to a lot of FPS games of the past, Puzzle games critics grow up playing a lot of classical Puzzle games of the past. RPG critics are often totally ignorant of the RPG's of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that Dragon Quest did anything worth of being saved.
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>tfw you're sort of glad that X was never localized because that game would destroy your life
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342870970
Nice pasta my friend, not getting the (You) though.
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Can we all agree that that personalities were the worst thing about the Dragon Quest 3 remakes? That and making all the best armor female exclusive.
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>>342859867
It gets worse. Hero had a hard life.
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I picked up DQH last night for 15$ and started playing. Didnt spend too much time last night, but i was loving it.
I remember getting 8 when it came out, and beating it, but that was it.

My question is that I really want to get into this series. A friend is giving me his N3ds in a few weeks when he buys the MHG N3ds, and im gonna homebrew it.
My question is what versions should i get that i could play them all on the N3ds hacked?
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>>342870654
>monsters
>4 humans
The strangest part is that I can imagine them appearing in a Monsters game and being a breedable monster.
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>>342871270

I didn't like the personalities, no. I thought about playing the FC version next time because of them, but the SFC version is just too good.
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>>342871257
maybe next time :^)
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>>342846047
Terry is a fucking edgelord disgrace, I bet you like Jack in Mass Effect faggot
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>>342871294
DQ5 is pretty good.
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>>342870654
>all those color swaps
disgusting
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>>342870264
Because he was always a bitch.
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>>342871284
Pankraz reunites with the hero's mom as ghosts and got to see his son and grandchildren succeed in his original goal. At least he had a happy ending.
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>>342871495
>I thought about playing the FC version next time because of them, but the SFC version is just too good.
I know exactly how you feel. Maybe one of these days rom hackers can remove personalities from the game. Probably not though.
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>>342871270
>>342871495
No, it was one of the best things, you pussies.
Worst thing was NOT FIXING THE FUCKING EQUIPMENT AS ITEMS RESTRICTIONS

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS STILL SO STUPID AND RETARDED GODDAMNIT
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>>342871879
NES man, often that was a easy way to save space.
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>>342870970
That's because those anons are retards that never played Ultima and Wizardry.
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>>342872291
>No, it was one of the best things, you pussies.
All it did was make characters hugely unbalanced. Seriously some personalities like Sexy and Hyper were just straight up overpowered.
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>>342851034

you can attempt a solo run on DQIX but i you may need party members to unlock certain classes. still fighting pic related was thrilling
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>>342871284
The absolute worst parts are
>going back to the past the first time
then going back the second time even further and just accepting it
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>>342871270
They are annoying but I would still call the sfc version definitive version.
>haven't played by III sfc save in over a month
Shit should I start that up again? I remember I got the sword to destroy the volcano and a few of the spheres.
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>>342872417
That's because both Ultima and Wizardry were pc exclusives for their best, most innovative games. Games Journalism has always been skewed towards console games.
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>>342871380
They are.
Even these eggheaded fucks.
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>>342872831
Wait how does that even work? DQ is such a fucked up world.
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>>342870215
Really? That's kinda neat.
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>>342872091
>bianca
>normal metal sword
Way for the artist to show they never played the fucking game
>but anon, Bianca can use two swords!
Yes, and neither are NORMAL nor do they look like that. On top of that, they're more like rapiers.
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>metal slime death star

but why
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>>342843254
>Just started playing DQH last night and then see this

Nice. I really want to jump in and play all of the DQ games because DQH really rekindled my love for the designs of the monsters and characters.

What is the best way to play DQ1-3 though? Would it be emulating the NES versions?
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>>342872464
Then don't use them. You can still win
Also, despite what the percentages say online, sexy isn't actually all that good. It's only perk is that it has no "weakness". It just makes your party a pinch more evened out. Mages will always be shit for physical, fighters will never gain MP, and so forth.
Hyper isn't even noteworthy because the only way you're getting it is by having an accessory that is insanely OP to begin with, and that's because Agility is still running on outdated NES rules in any version of DQ3. Even DQ2 revamps change agility.
Several of the other personalities are better for particular stats.
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>>342873372
super famicom
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>>342872721
What is your party? The last time I played my party consisted of Hero (Male) + Fighter (Female) + Thief (Male) + Sage (Female). Out of curiosity is a Thief viable throughout the entire game or should you just class change one once you get all the skills? I think Thief has some sort of passive for stealing but I'm not sure.
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>>342873035
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.jpg
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>>342873035
They're just some dudes that want to breed with monsters
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>>342873262
Giant flying king liquid metal slime was worse in terms of silly shit.
Bad enough he runs away at the speed of fuck you, but now he can FLY.
Death Star is probably one of those fuse-only monsters like Gold King Slime was (before DQ7)
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Game was fun outside of the voice acting. Both types were garbage, don't even start with that japanese have more passion bullshit.
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>>342873919
>They're just some dudes that want to breed with monsters
Aren't they able to have a female gender though just like all other monsters?
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>>342873642
Thanks, anon. You're the best.
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>>342873372
See if you can't find the GBA remakes, either that or the SNES versions I guess. The oldest games are super hard to go through on the NES due to it's age.
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>>342873372
DQI and DQII- sfc or gbc
DQIII- sfc
DQI-II on sfc has some nasty bugs but has the best graphics and music, up to you.
DQIII is best on sfc, don't let people tell you the monster metals are cool. They add nothing to the game.
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>>342846047
Nintendorks cant handle the fact that Terry is just the non-faggy version of Link
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>>342874002
>>342874027
Thanks, anons. I appreciate your help. It sucks to emulate the games, but I sure it will be fun.

What are the bugs for the SFC version of DQ1-2?
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Why isn't this game on sale? Fuck you Square! I wouldn't mind 30-40 but 60 is too much.
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>>342873675
My party was hero, martial artist, theif, and a sage. Theif actually is a viable class as they great offense and speed and whips are always useful weapons. While turning a theif into a sage is a good idea theif is a good class and perfectly viable.

Pic related, my very exact party.
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>>342861741
I don't really get your complains, probably because I like DQ the best when it let me go around at my own pace, exploring and finding things without a big quest dragging me along, and VI is fantastic in this.
The world is huge and the 3 (4) different planes of exploration lead to some really clever level design, it's full of things to find and side stuff to do, finding the (not yet) zenithian stuff is more cryptic than usual, there are events in which you can just stumble upon and at any time you want.
Sure the job system isn't the best, but the huge variety of skills added is appreciated.
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>>342874491
Holy shit you had the SAME exact party as me? That's strange. And speaking of which who's the artist? Google search leads me to a search about used cars.
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>>342850989
>that cover
What the flying shit
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>>342874590
that dread realm shit was legit depressing
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>>342875038
it's literally where dreams go to die
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>>342874357
Its less than $25 physical for ps4.
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>>342874491
never expected my car to be a dqmobile
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>>342875247
I don't have a ps4 yet. I like jrpgs and got a ps3 but I'm waiting for more games for it. When Dragon Quest 11 comes out though, I'm definitely getting one.
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>>342874739
Not, sure pretty sure I found it on tumblr. When you said fighter I wasn't sure if you had meant the solider or martial artist, the names for the classes are different in every version. Yeah though its a solid team. Sorry I don't know the artist.

They're are a surprising amount of DQ blogs that post fanart, its pretty nice.
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>>342873675
Thief has passive for stealing all the time and gains MP every level. Thief's primary issue, much like the Dealer, is having their mid-game gear being kinda shoddy. You can keep a thief all game though (be it the same one or a class changed one), because there's never a disadvantage to having one. Dealer just gets less viable, but depending on if it class changed or not. If it did from something with spells, then you might as well use it. Some of the Dealer's late/end-game weapons and armor are actually pretty damn solid and always getting MP per level is nice.
Is it nice enough to bother keeping a dealer over a warrior or a fighter? No, but you could consider keeping them over a sage if they class changed from one. Sage is kinda shoddy when it comes to physical stats (HP, STR, VIT, and I believe their agility ain't too hot without the boosting accessories), thus they can die a bit easier than other classes. You have no reason to have a Mage or Cleric after mid-game though.
Choosing between them, a Thief is better mostly because items are better than money, but, as I said, depending on how you class change or play, a Dealer shouldn't be totally disavowed.

I think Hero ends up lacking, outside of equipment and healusall, once post-game starts.
Fighter will always be useful as the crit-master class, especially because crits pierce defense.
Warrior has value though in being able to use the element swords to clear out trash randoms, as well as having the most HP, VIT, and almost 1st best STR. As well as all of the shields except the hero shield (very helpful vs magic).


I believe that one of the online sources got the falcon sword wrong (the use of which is good when you reduce an enemy's defense to zero), since I recall the Warrior being able to use it. Don't quote me though. I remember for sure that at least some sources got some of the equipment wrong.
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>>342875656
Yeah Fighter is pretty much Martial Artist. Sorry for the confusion.
>>342875681
Alright thanks.
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>>342875901
Yeah, I remember doing my Ed, Edd, n Eddy run.
Eddy went from thief to dealer and I was surprised at how solid the dealer actually was in terms of stats and equipment, but not having a good magic background made him lacking without any magic-equipment or magic-items like the sage stone.
The only thing that sucked was the because he was a male dealer, his best equipment was the magic apron. Female dealers get further female-only armor, some with extra resistances.
Also, to an extent I will take back the sage comment, because I forgot that they can wear the dragon robe, which reduces breath damage. Insulate is great and all, but having dragon robe and insulate is better.
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>>342874491
>>342873675
My party through DQIII was Hero, Mage, Cleric. Gets you almost all the skills in the game, keeps characters differentiated, and a tiny bit faster than with a full four. The action deficit is kinda painful when the later bosses start actually being able to break through buffed up characters between beefy multiattacks and dispels.

Never really tackled the bonus content though.
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>>342876716
Also thieves get extra good stuff for no good reason.
Whatever.
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>>342876885
>not using all 4 slots in a normal
Hmmm. Sounds kinda neat.
I know for a fact that experience is divided in DQ3, so I wonder how much of a difference it is between just 3 versus 4.
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>>342843254
So why does Joker have the best commercial of all time?
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>>342876716
>Ed, Edd, n Eddy run
That sounds hilarious. Now you make me want a stick of truth like game with the ed boys.
>>342876885
Interesting you only used three slots. Sounds like it would be difficult.
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>>342843254
where should i grind at in dq4? i'm up to the palais de leon right before i'm able to recruit Ragnar
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>>342878138

Wherever you can find Metal Slimes or Liquid Metal Slimes.
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>>342878138
did you get to the royal crypt? there's a shitton of liquid metal slimes there
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>>342878138
I remember that boss killing me once or twice, grinding is a good idea.
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How come after Dragon Quest 1 all the final bosses are demons instead of dragons?
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>>342878569
Because there are a lot of good dragons now.
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I legitimately tried to like this game. I put probably 25 miserable hours into it thinking it would surely get better.

I play all DW games, I guess because it's a bit like gambling. It doesn't take skill, but it's fun to watch and you always feel like your progressing towards some goal, whether that be new weapons, mounts, story progression, etc. all other spinoffs have been similar: gundam, one piece, samurai, even FOTN.

This game however, this fucking game, just lacks all of that. You never fight large hoards, you don't earn many pick ups, every level is too big and feels unpopulated. How did it all go so wrong...
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>>342878569
The games got larger in scale and some kind of Turbo-Satan is usually a bigger threat to the world than a dragon that's fucking with one kingdom. Dragon family enemies are usually pretty prominent in endgame areas though.
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>>342878569

The final boss of 10 is a saiyan ape.
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>>342878798
Because it's not a straight up musou.
>You never fight large hoards
You sure you beat the game? There gets to be some pretty big clusterfucks on a lot of maps.
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My Cannock got sick. Middenhall and Moonbrook can manage fine but I feel much better with him there.
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>>342877815
Because they wanted to actually throw some money at dragon quest marketing for a change
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>>342879090
find a yggdrasil leaf
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>>342878936
Nah, I didn't beat it. I spent some time grinding. I just got really bored. I wish I could recall the last thing I did, based on trophies, I'm probably a couple hours off.

I get that it's not straight musou, I just don't really get what it was. It never really felt fully realized.
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>>342879420
Found it and he's better.
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>>342879428
It feels like they got a better idea of what they wanted to do towards the end of the game. I've heard the sequel is a lot better, and from what I've seen of it that seems to be the case, so I guess we'll see if that actually comes out over here.

And I totally admit that a big chunk of the reason I liked it was tearing entire maps apart with pretty much just Jessica and Yangus
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>>342877815
CASTZESPHELL
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>>342849940
>Amazon still hasnt fixed the date fuck up and it's still digital only

Step up Amazon holy fuck
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>>342846047
I really like Terry character design.
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>>342880431
They nailed all of the old characters' designs

I even like Alena's new design
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I'm looking for a cheap and cheerful Bluetooth controller for my phone since I'm planning on emulating the mainline games from the start on my commute since I finished the Hannibal books last week.

Any recommendations?
Or should I look at getting a flash cart for my GBASP?

I'm also looking for a copy of DQM:J2 in the UK if anyone has any idea where to get it reasonably priced?
Argos UK shows it for £5 but isn't in stock anywhere, I do check every couple of weeks too.
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am I the -only- person who thinks every character drawn by this artist has the exact same face?
Girls have all the same face, boys have all the same face.
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>>342872808
I guess Wizardry is still really popular in Japan. They're perfectly playable even with nice graphics (eg. the SNES port of I-II-III).

Ultima did some really neat things but I don't really like the looks of the games
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>>342881484
no
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>>342877905
For most of the game it's not hard because most enemies can't do much against a buffed up team, and some of the gaps in individual spell lists can eventually be covered up with items that can cast spells for free. The bad equipment list for the basic caster classes is a big letdown though, especially when it comes to magic/breath defense.

I hear that going solo is also a surprisingly not horrible idea for a good chunk of the game, as well.
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>>342881484
Guys are all Gohans and Vegetas while women are all Bulmas or 18s. You're not alone. People says that's the charm of Toriyamas style. I kinda agree.
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>>342849940
>that smug bitch on the cover
I might have to give it a shot
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>>342881175
I preffer her old design but the new one is good.
>>342881484
Many people feel this way. Anyone have that "Good morning Crono" picture where everyone including the sun is Vegeta? I know I have it but I don't feel like searching for it.
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>>342881175
The only character that looked off to me in Heroes was Jessica. no idea why.
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>>342851337
You act like SE wants to promote the series in the west.
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>>342845642
2 has online co-op. Dunno if I'd call it good though. you can't swap who you're playing as online and I think the host is stuck as their MC. It also scales to whoever is the highest level or an average, but either way someone being even like 10 levels ahead makes everything tanky as hell for anyone lower. Though maybe with 3 or 4 people it's not bad
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>>342882462
I also intend to try it for her.
He's hot as fuck, too.
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ALL I WANT IS JOKER 3 AND TERRY'S WONDERLAND

FUCK DQ8 MAINLINE SERIES HAS ALWAYS BEEN MEDIOCRE

I NEED MONSTERS. I'LL SHOVE MY GAMEBOY CARTIDGES OF DRAGON WARRIOR MONSTER'S AND DRAGON WARRIOR MONSTERS 2 TARA'S ADVENTURE UP MY ASSHOLE AND TAPE JOKER 1 AND JOKER 2 TO MY NIPPLES.

GIVE ME MONSTERS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342883660
we need a DQ thread bingo card
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>>342883660
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>>342883660
JUST

IMPORT
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>>342883660
I remember hearink joker 3 was not all that great actually. Anyone know what the nips thought of it?
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>>342864308
Literally the only DQ that doesn't pull a 2nd act and real final boss out of the pocket is the first one
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will dq 7 have preorder bonuses

I need a slime plushie
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>>342879428
>I spent some time grinding

Why would you do that? Outside of finishing quests there's pretty much no reason to specifically go out and grind until post game.
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>>342884943

just buy one

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dragon+quest+slime
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>>342882993
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>>342885123
I wish there were more alt costumes
I guess they must've gone straight to working on the sequel instead of pumping out DLC for it like some of their other games
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>>342872335
Fuck off Chen.
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>>342864307

god damnit!
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>>342886123
>playing VI
>inexplicably encounter normal metal slimes in the last dungeon
>suddenly more show as I attempt to kill them
>they merge into a metal king
>next turn
>the metal king has fled

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>342886446
>DQ8
>Grinding up a couple of levels before I do the Dragovian Sanctuary since I was only like level 40 when I beat the game
>In the Dragon's Graveyard, there's one enemy group that can show up with two King Metal Slimes and a bunch of flies that can cast Kerplunk
>I actually managed to kill seven King Metal Slimes in a single encounter
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>>342886915

I don't think I've managed to kill more than four or five metal monsters in a single encounter. There's always that little bit of regret when some get away.
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>>342882115
>DQ1 hero is now a blond faggot
why
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>>342890374
Nothing wrong with blond hair but I don't like that redesign at all either. It would've been better as a party member or protagonist for some other game.
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>>342890374

In what game? And was his hair ever shown in any of the old artwork? Everything I've seen has his hair covered with his helmet.
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>>342878138
Southwest of Endor is a late game dungeon with liquid metal slimes, you can only access the lobby area though. I just finished that fight earlier in the week
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>>342890740
how come she becomes blonde in game? purple hair is superior
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>>342891070
It was that weird jap only remake of the first game that had early motion controls.
They used the character design from that for him from then on.
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>>342891296
I have no clue.
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>playing DQ IV
>Zinthia Castle is smack dab in the middle of two dungeons and yet its priest doesn't let you save and there's no inn inside the castle for some dumb fucking reason.
It wasn't a complete bust since my party's overleveled and filled with mp, I just want to complain.
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>>342891296

She has purple hair in the original, blonde in the SFC remake, and what hair color is used switches back and forth after that. A Japanese wiki actually has a chart to keep track of her hair color. Seems she's blonde in more games than she is purple, but she has purple hair in the majority of fan art.
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>>342881827

we gotta work on that image. it could be trimmed down and simplified in a chart that goes game/accomplishments/flaws/ recommended versions

that way we give new comers two clear choices. chronological or pick the one that fits your tastes

would do it myself but have only played 3,4,5,6,9. only finished 9&5 tho going thru 1 right now. could become my favorite
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>>342892096

Might not be a bad idea, though not everyone will agree on what's great and what's a flaw, so good luck with that. I'd also add in the PSX version of IV for people who can into Nip, as it's a pretty good version.
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>>342891543
how did you get those costumes anyways
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>>342893383
It was all DQ IX DLC if I remember right. You had to get on some network service that was built into the game to get them. You can still get the stuff if you have an Action Replay or R4 card, but otherwise you can't get it anymore.
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>>342893838
>>342893383
It was Tag Mode bullshit, which was just as bad. You need to have your DS/DSi in sleep mode with Tag Mode enabled, AND JUST HOPE SOMEONE DID THE SAME.
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>>342894602
Still not as bad as TWEWY's mingle mode. I carried that shit with me for weeks and even in the city I never got a single person.
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>>342886915
Is that even more efficient than just grinding on the slime hill
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>>342894602
The fuck? I guess that's not a terrible thing for Jap players but how many people over here got to play them? That's lame.
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>>342894890
I thought so. Slime Hill is okay for an obvious grinding spot but I think that uncharted island in the southwest corner of the map with Liquid Metal Slimes, and Dragon's Graveyard with Metal King Slimes, are both better.
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>>342894602
Wrong, you just needed to connect to DQVC.
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>>342895135
Well, DQIX sold well in the West, very well infact. However, much like Streetpass, it's aimed primarily towards the Japanese and won't really amount to much unless you go to cons.

Tag Mode is a big reason I'd like DQIX to be remade or at least remastered in a way. Just make all of the DLC and Tag Mode shit post game.
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>>342895381

Slime Hill is pretty fucking good in the 3DS version because of the on-screen enemy thing.
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>>342895530
I think Horii said he wanted to remake it too
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>>342895564
Yeah that'll probably change things. In the PS2 version I prefer Dragon Graveyard, although I don't do any major grinding at all in DQ8. Just getting to level 3 or 4 before going into the first dungeon, and going from 40 to 50 really quick before the Dragovian area.
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>>342895449
See, that still doesn't really help western players.
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>>342893383
Streetpasses + the wifi shop

Wifi shop updates would add a previous DQ character to your Inn occasionally. Then every 10 or so streetpasses you got the characters would give you one piece of their outfit and then their hat/a wig of their hair. Think it takes 50 streetpasses for them all, and if you streetpassed somebody with characters or shop updates you don't have you would get them.
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>>342895530
I'd love a remake of it. Making those hidden grottoes accessible post-game without all the tag nonsense would be great.
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>>342891296
>the first time i played i played dq3 i my whole team was female
>only the hero was male
>i tought of a lot of porn ideas in my mind.
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>>342869768
Dragon Quest
>Talk to people and read the dialogue to progress through the game
Final Fantasy
>Flashy cinematics with voice acting pointing you to the path
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>>342896793

>i tought of a lot of porn ideas in my mind.

Well at least it wasn't in someone else's mind.
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>>342896793
Females are statistically better then males, in some cases the females will have be 30-50 points higher then the male version of the class.
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>>342873035
>>342873262
This is why people want the Monsters games. They go all out with the monsters. Joker 2 vanilla still impresses me. The current game goes to 800+ monsters, and I'm wondering if Joker 3 will push for an even thousand.
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>>342897245
And every monster is endgame viable assuming they kept that whole Monster X, Monster XY system from Joker 2 Pro which I'm still salty that we didn't get
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>>342895657
what for? X basically does improves and expands every feature that made IX stand out. sure its the only DQ that could use a re-make given how limited it was by the DS but i'd still say its too soon.
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