ITT: You post your favorite game
Soul Nomad.
>>342839172
Still hasn't been surpassed in its genre yet.
>>342839593
Really? You like 1 over 2?...Me too
>>342839593
second post best post
>>342839593
>sequel or re-release never fucking ever
Such a goddamn shame.
Also postan. It's either this or Dark Cloud 2. Both are equally fucking great.
>>342839854
As someone who is nearly finished with disc one, I think your nostalgia is blinding you. It's cool, but there are far better RPGs out there.
>>342839992
NOLF2 was a fine game but it didn't have as much of the first game's charm. Not really sure why. The systems at play in the game are all vastly improved over the first and yet the end result feels a little soulless compared to the original.
>>342840071
It's a question of favorite, not best.
>>342840071
I am pretty much in the same part as this anon. Please someone convince me to finish it.
>>342840071
OP didn't say better, it said favourite.
And Xenogears will remain as so. I haven't found a game with the story of this caliber yet. Except PST, but that was a little different.
>>342840293
>I haven't found a game with the story of this caliber yet.
Suikoden I and II on the same system.
>>342840293
>I haven't found a game with the story of this caliber yet.
It's the one where the crucify the giant mouse, right?
There hasn't been a MMORPG to top it and I fear it will never be.
>>342840394
Suikoden is good, definitely in my top list, but it explores different themes and not as deep as Xenogears, I think.
>>342840397
Yes, Chu-Chu. The scar from this scene still lurks in my mind.
>>342839854
Same
>>342840164
Well, luckily we'll soon have Steam versions of it, since they've surely got top men working on finding out who owns the rights anymore.
>>342840178
Disc 2 is like, the size of the Kislev chapter but has barely any shitty, annoying dungeons. If you could deal with Rico's subplot, the Thames and fucking Babel Tower, Disc 2 is worth it just for closure and being less annoying.
>>342840293
There's nothing wrong with saying it's your favorite, but there are plenty of games with better writing. Like shit, play some adventure games like Grim Fandango or some good VNs. Not many games get as ass-deep into theology, but the overall writing quality of the game isn't that great. It has serious pacing issues, several characters that are flatter than a plank of wood, and the twists are generally shown anime level.
easily
>>342840748
>and the twists are generally shown anime level.
Specifically it cribs most of it's story from the Lunar games and Evangelion.
>>342840719
You know, even a year or two ago I'd have laughed and said that NOLF will show up as soon as Grim Fandango and Descent come back.
And Grim Fandango got ported and goddammit someone is making Descent again. So who knows!
>>342840748
Games that have multiply characters in it will always suffer more or less from the lack of developing them.
Xenogears was primarily the story of Fei and Elly, both of them got tremedous development during the story.
VNs and adventure games focus more on a single character, though.
Examples of bad pacing please.
>>342840647
>and not as deep
There's your problem anon. You're like the people who think Eva is the best anime, overlooking how you had more actual enjoyment watching something like Sailor Moon because you think things have to be 'deep' to be well written.
>>342840878
And a lot of elements of how Gear battles are presented are ripped straight from G Gundam.
Like, let's be real: Fei is a Domon ripoff with some elements cribbed from Shinji. That's not a bad thing, but the game isn't as inspired as people give it credit for. It was still important for introducing a certain level of writing back into mainstream console games alongside stuff like Legacy of Kain, but it's not amazing.
>>342841153
Anon, I haven't watched Eva.
Describing deep for me is not actually being pretentous, but incorporating philosophy teachings into the plot, so it flows well. Xenogears does it good.
>>342841357
>Anon, I haven't watched Eva.
You should. To see tons of influences Xenogears had.
>>342841474
Yeah, I heard about it. Probably will, thanks.
Dragon's Dogma as a Sorcerer
>>342839172
Is the pc version of shadow of memories playable in windows 7?
>>342840071
Your favorite game is usually a product of circumstance, playing them at the right place and at the right time/age.
MGS2 is my favorite game and I could easily explain that I loved it because I was at a proper time in my life to really enjoy it (teenager). I can easily concede that 1 and 3 are technically way better and yet I managed to enjoy 2 the most.
>>342841790
is there a reason you can't emulate it? surely there must be stable PS2 emulators by now
>>342841886
Well its probably playable on pcsx2, but ps2 emulation is a mess, so I try to avoid it whenever possible.
>>342841151
>Games that have multiply characters in it will always suffer more or less from the lack of developing them.
Not on this level. Rico, Maria and Chuchu barely qualify as characters. The Tales games both before and after Xenogears do a better job fleshing out and justifying their parties, and most of those games are pretty poorly written.
>Xenogears was primarily the story of Fei and Elly, both of them got tremedous development during the story.
And yet Elly takes a huge backseat to creator's pets like Citan and Ramsus (both of whom essentially return in Xenosaga in roles that only really work if you just assume they're second attempts at those characters). And despite the plot CONSTANTLY trying to find reasons to shove Elly out of the party because the side stories take precedence over her development.
>VNs and adventure games focus more on a single character, though.
Some of them do. Others, like 999, present a better and more fleshed out ensemble that have depth and are developed in a less simple, linear fashion.
>Examples of bad pacing please.
Most of the dialogue being long-winded and extremely redundant.
Spending HOURS on subplots that don't fucking matter or entertain while skipping huge chunks of the core narrative.
Placing importance on exploring the Thames while skipping almost every instance of Elly's Immigration existing.
The entire Kislev chapter, as the game would flow better if there was a more immediate link between It's first big appearance and Fei and Elly stranded in the ocean.
Disc 2.
It's not just budget, it was poor planning.
>>342842201
>Immigration
Omnigear, Christ.
It's just so fucking good. The number of hours I spent playing custom games is inhumane.
>>342841871
my nigger
>>342842120
PS2 emulation isn't bad, it just requires some tinkering for most games.
>>342839593
this game was the shit
>>342842201
Chu-Chu was a mascot. Maria and Rico, I agree. They had some portion of development, but could have been flashed out more.
I don't really remember this. When was plot trying to shove her out? Every important scene has her. Even when you are going to Zeboim there is a development for her too. AND it's optional.
Still need to play 999 and other in this series. But I can argue that this is a VN, thus it sacrifices gameplay for characters and story.
Game examples of this happening? I can agree that some dialogues were pretty long and tiresome, but they were still important to overall lore of the game. Also, subplots?
Elly's gear should have been more important on Disc two, I think, but...
Kislev chapter serves as intoduction to actual Kislev and characters like Kaiser and Rico. It COULD be done better but taking it from the narrative would be worse. Also it explains the subplot about Elly and Weltall from the beginning.
>>342842848
Until play! reaches some acceptable speeds, there is no hope ps2 emulation.
>>342843126
I'm not that autistic with cycle accurate emulation. As long as it's playable it's alright in my book
>>342843272
Yeah you'll be able to play it. But save often and don't be surprised/pissed if something goes awry.
>>342842848
I really don't know where is this coming from. I tinkered only two games among 40-60 I emulated, being Xenosaga and AT for resolution.
Fucking Dolphin requires far more tinkering than PS2 emulation.
>>342843375
I think issues are being conflated here.
The emulation does work, though it isn't perfect. I think a lot of the rancor surrounding PS2 emulation is that despite having operable emulators for over a decade now, forward progress in terms of reliability and accurate emulation more or less stalled in the mid 2000s.
It isn't a hardware issue, it's a software issue. Reverse engineering the PS2 even with space-age technology is not as easy as many people want it to be.
Link to the Past>Ocarina of time
>>342843616
But is it better than Bleem!?
>>342844236
Ocarina of Time > Legend of Zelda > Link's Awakening > Zelda 2 > Link to the Past
All of them are great.
>>342844379
Phantom Hourglass, Minish Cap
Not all of them
>>342844549
All the games I listed are great. Notice how I didn't list games after Ocarina. Since a ton of them are mediocre to bad.
>not liking Minish Cap
That's one of the good ones.
>>342844776
I found it to be pretty forgettable. Just wasn't for me I guess.
You best not be saying that you don't like Majora's mask tho.
>>342844931
I didn't like the repeating time mechanic, no. I also think Majora's Mask introduced two of the three things that made Zelda go downhill. Endless NPC fetch quests and a linear story.
>>342844549
Come on, Minish Cap is adorable and used a lot of its resources greatly. Sure unlocking shit with luck stones could get annoying, but everything else was good.
>>342845202
Like I said, I guess that it just wasn't for me.
>>342845149
Ocarina was linear, had boring as shit enemies and combat, and it gave us the empty Hyrule field.
You know what, this is a positive thread, shouldn't ruin it with arguments over opinions.
One of the few games that actually made me happy. Goddamn.
>>342845651
>Ocarina was linear
Compared to the games before, yes. But it has a lot more open periods than the games that came after. Including Majroas Mask.
>You know what, this is a positive thread, shouldn't ruin it with arguments over opinions.
True.
