>Clipboard
>Pack of Electronics
>Scrap Cigarettes
fallout is much more enjoyable when you just give yourself every item with console commands and dont have to search 100 containers per dungeon
>>342835004
>Scrap electronics
Nice, I need more repair kits/satchel charges/fusion cell clusters.
>Pack of cigarettes
Nice, pretty good value/weight ratio while playing with realistic carry weight.
>>342835004
Dyslexic?
>>342835506
It's even more enjoyable when you just use console commands to skip right to the ending without having to actually play the game.
>bobby pin
>Shotgun Shell (6)
BOOYAH
>>342835004
>Metal Box
>[Empty]
And I still open it, every fucking time
>>342836560
>at Sunset Sarsaparilla factory
>check every crate in packaging for SS's
>do this knowing full well that the only thing that I will find is "Empty Sunset Sarsaparilla bottle (3)"
a courier can dream
>Scrap cigarettes
>pack of electronics
>set carry weight to 8000
>game becomes fun
>>342835004
Ammo ingredients as loot
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35378/?
>>342835506
It`s much more enjoble to god mode through the dungeons too. I don`t get why everyone`s so butthurt about these kinds of things.
>both physically and mentally unable to stop myself from opening every single container
After opening a dozen full of trash.
>Bottlecap
T-thanks...
>>342837503
>Those few moments where there's a full Sarsaparilla bottle mixed in with the empty ones
>>342839668
Keep trying not to hoard, because by the time I'm level 5 or so I'm usually too rich. Even with this one mod that changes around bartering and prices, there's just so much stuff you can pick up and sell, and never have to spend your own caps. I don't know how people play regular and then even win tons of money at casinos
>he doesn't use the smokes mod
>>342835004
>Pack of Cigarettes
>not getting every single one of these to exchange them for the currency you get from the machine outside of the Dead Money DLC quest point in the mainland
I was playing Stalker CoP recently and it got me to thinking. Maybe looting in Fallout 3 and 4 would be more enjoyable if there wasn't a million items everywhere and most things were empty and picked clean like in stalker and there were just stashes.
>>342843019
>implying I'm ever going to play Dead Money again
chore and a half that one was, and the spoils? don't need them. god damn i hate elijah and that ghoul and having to tiptoe around holograms
>>342836560
its a fucking disease man
>open mailbox
> pool cue
> K
>>342843212
>implying its currency can only be used within the DLC itself
The machine lets you exchange the currency for shit like med bags, weapon repair kits, and stimpack and its variants. I always liked doing that so I could stockpile stimpack with that suit you get in Old World Blues. Shit was fun, but unfortunately took a lot of any sort of challenge out of the game.
>>342835004
>FO3
>first Fallout game
>start looting cigarettes thinking that they would be super valuable commodity in a post apocalyptic setting
>mfw I try to sell them
>>342835004
>installing the FO4 quickloot mod on NV
The game got twice as better
>>342835004
>Cup
>Pencil
>Surgical Tubing
>>342843429
But they were indeed pretty good value for their weight, compared to most trash.
>>342835506
It's much more enjoyable if you just turn godmode on so you don't have to deal with the annoying hassle of dying.
>>342839110
why not just turn on godmode?
>>342843429
>cigarette pacls and cartons
>NOT worth any money
They have a pretty great value to weight ratio. Same with pre-war money. So yeah they're low value for one. But when you bring 65 pre-war money, 15 packs of cigarettes, and five cartons of cigarettes you walk away with a fucking pile caps.
>>342844865
>mfw I just hoarded both in my home until there was a gigantic pile of both
>>342844865
I like keeping my pre-war money on me because I like the idea of paying with a wad of bills
>>342839668
I know that feeling. I love OWB, but the amount of containers and lockers and shelves and just random shit scattered all over were made for suffering.
>>342845069
sauce?
The fact that everything is useful in FO4 is very annoying so you end up looting almost everything also the gun mods makes every fucking gun seems different but they're actually shit than what you have 90% of the time so you either have to stop to look in the menu every 5 seconds or just fuck it and loot and go without even looking. I thought the lack of weapon durability would be good but I kind of miss it because it made picking up the same weapon have a use just to repair your weapon, stuff doesn't even sell well in FO4 and merchants don't even have a lot of caps, I made all my money from just having high charisma and shaking down niggas for 400 caps or more per quest.
>>342845568
Good thing the game does not give you a reason to play it so you only have to suffer through that stupid shit is if you like suffering.
>200 year old unsealed cigarettes still have value
What?
>>342846059
Nicotine is one hell of a drug anon, smokers have to get their fix somehow
>>342846059
I recently had opportunity to smoke a pack of Lucky Strikes produced in 1947.
They honestly weren't that bad.
>>342846059
They have a nice nuclear tang now.
>>342845568
>Useful
You get drops from legendary enemies. Those guns are good enough to kill anything. Power armor is a suggestion. Settlement BS is a waste of time.
You don't need to collect anything but ammo. Then again, if you didn't pick up all that junk you would leave every building empty handed and finish the game in 2 hours.
FO4 is a community service simulator.
>>342839668
>>342842670
Also a hoarder here.
I have a compulsion to collect one of every single weapon available and always use a player home mod that lets me display all my weapons and ammo.
I just can't leave any shelf unfilled. Even if I never use it.
>Dumping stuff in my storage container
>Accidentally press A
>>342848875
That's kind of how I broke my habit, getting pissed off accidentally clicking wrong or pressing the wrong button. The most I keep in storage are DLC armors and weapons. I've never really found a use for any of the craft items besides one run where I did explosives and needed tin cans.
>>342835004
>have smokers mod because muh immersion autism
>have reason to search these otherwise useless containers
>reach level 60 and get lung cancer
Ah Fallout 3/nv you are a beauty
>>342837503
If you have OWB installed, you can make all those empty bottles into Pure Water.
>>342843682
Oh yeah, also might as well just buy the game, never open it and just watch LP's on YouTube by some generic faggot in the already diluted letsplayer pool.our modern society has become a joke.
>>342835506
It's even more enjoyable if you just skip right to the end credits
>collect absolutely everything
>constantly fighting the weight limit
>>342835004
>Fallout
>a game
>spend the whole time sorting garbage and doing chores
>pick up absolutely everything
>pick up every gun/ammo regardless of build
>only use companions for the extra weight
>put at least 8 or 9 into luck
I can't help going full Jew in NV. It's too much fun.
>>342846059
Beggars can't be choosers.
>>342849875
>have choice in game
>don't have to do it
>fault the rest of game anyway
>>342835004
>Clipboard
Book Chute in the Sink
>Pack of Electronics
Good for clusters, weapon repair kits and robot parts if you are playing with Robco Certified.
>Pack of Cigarette
Sierra Madre item thingy
>>342844140
not him but weight limits aren't fun
>>342839668
>Metal Box [EMPTY]
>I still have to open it
Ey lads, it's been a while since I played this game ( for the duration of an actual playthrough anyways ) and I forgot if items dropped in, say, the Lucky 38 suite that you get from Mr House ever despawn when you come back.
Here is a very funny picture.
>>342850615
They aren't fun but they are necessary.
>>342835004
You've heard of the Sierra Madre Casino. We all have, the legend, the curses.Some foolishness about it lying in the middle of a City of Dead. A city of ghosts. Buried beneath a blood-red cloud... a bright, shining monument luring treasure hunters to their doom. An illusion that you can begin again, change your fortunes. Finding it, though, that's not the hard part. It's letting go.
>>342851419
the hard part is dismembering angry ghost people with a really hot knife while you argue with a bi-polar nightkin, a petty niglet and a qt who is afraid of cramped spaces
actually DM is easy if you're patient except near the end towards the vault where there's radios and homograms fuck everywhere
>>342851637
>homograms
Freudian slip?
>>342851637
FNV is prooobably my fav vidya of all time, barring Morrowind. Sierra Madre was aight - liked Old World Blues and Honest Hearts better. The DLC is all about melee weapons and dismemberment perks. The vault is always annoying, yeh. Fuck I might play again, gotta find a patch program that prevents save corruption. Any recommendations?
>>342852173
DAMN IT!
>pick up and steal everything
>get 2k by the time I'm done with Primm
>immediately stealth boy up to Vegas
>clean out the casinos with high luck
>laughing for the rest of the game
>>342846486
>now
Cigs are pretty radioactive on their own already.
>>342835506
Is much more enjoyable when you just don't bother playing in the first place at all since searching for things gives you a sense of great discovery. I will never understand that mentality of wanting to have fun.
>>342850765
Anon... get some help.
>>342850829
Nope. In the PC version items you drop never despawn anywhere. I've left shit in shops that I couldn't sell for money and come back months later and they're still there.
Enemies/friendlies will pick up weapons or ammo though if there is an enemy nearby and they don't have a lot of ammo or the weapon on the ground is better than their weapon. They don't seem to ever pick up armor though. Companions in your house (lucky 38 or wherever) might pick up food while you're there. They do the animation like they're grabbing food/water but I haven't actually confirmed your stock goes down.
>>342853175
Thanks, mate.
>tfw used mods to turn one settlement into a giant weed farm and made all the vendors rich so I can sell my crops to them and never have to loot shit again
>>342849636
I do have OWB.
I was just hopping to find alot of SS's in a SS Factory.
instead i am now the proud owner of around 200ishSS Deputy Badges.
>mfw ~5 min after getting Pew Pew
>>342846059
>implying cigarettes have value at all
They literally do nothing. They're just adult pacifiers.
I give some props to Bethesda doing this crafting shit in Fallout 4, literally every fucking piece of junk has some use to it and I have to hoard it all
>>342835615
this guy gets it
>>342854236
>look at me I don't do drugs
Look retard I despise any form drugs too but value is derived from demand and addicts sure as fuck have a high demand for their fix.
>>342855764
Shut up brown tooth.
go suck on another paper dick
Faggot
Playing with only 50lbs base equip load is hardcore. Wish their was also a burden system cause I could carry 4 light rifles irl weight wise but it wouldn't be practical or comfortable to carry it. Also if you play with real weight l, damage mods are a must. Bullet sponges eating muh ammo
>>342856002
>>342842670
Get True Wasteland Economy. It introduces scarcity and destructability so, unless you're incredibly fucking meticulous, your precious loot will keep getting torn to bits. It actually makes HC live up to its name.
>>342856130
My nigga.
Personally I modded the carry weight formula from 150+(10*STR) to just (10*STR), playing with 6 STR right now so 60 carry weight.
Burden system would be nice but I don't really see any way to implement it.
>>342856002
>reading comprehension
Can you do all DLCs at level 30 if you take Logan's Loophole and can abuse chems?
What are the good places to stock up on them?
>>342850765
>there was ACTUALLY SOMETHING IN IT
"Now that the dust has settled", was anyone really happy with FO4's voiced protagonist feature?
I think it would have been better left on the drawing board. It involves just that much more scripting and voice talent to make any edits or additions to the "dialogue wheels", and limits conversation topics. On that note, the Mass Effect -inspired "dialogue wheels" had similar problems as the ME dialogue wheels: Unintuitive extrapolation of the provided choices ("I disagree" could result in a furious slew of insults and refusal to co-operate with an NPC, or just as likely result in a polite differing of opinion and automatically agreeing to perform the quest that the player disagreed with anyways)
At least after I upgrade my toaster I can mod the game and put in a full MC voice script recorded by my own voice giving more broad and varied responses other than
>THE BABY
>MY SON NEED TO FIND HIM
>HAVE YOU SEEN A BABY OR MY SON
>MY SON IS A BABY AND HE WAS KIDNAPPED OH GOD MY ONLY SON HE'S GONE THEY KILLED MY WIFE WHERE'S MY SON
>IS THAT A BABY? IS THAT MY SON?
>BETTER CHECK IT OUT, MY SON COULD BE IN THERE
I wouldn't even upload it. It would just be for my own satisfaction and roleplaying.
>Heavy Boots
>Zweihander
>Cinders of a Lord
>>342857207
>wanting no inventory space
It sounds more tedious than anything
>>342858379
On that note:
>dude heres ur wife uve known for 2 minutes shes dead sad right!!!
This is my biggest gripe with the game. At least in FO3 (you know, just about the only Fallout game Bethesda will openly acknowledge?) they made your dad a compelling and sympathetic character. You interact with him throughout the whole intro, as your character lives their life with him from birth to adulthood (a couple-hour process) and really become attached to him as your character grows up with him. He disappears, and you leave the vault, then your adventure starts. And if you want to roleplay? You can skip the whole intro to the point where you leave the vault, and never even see your "dad", so you don't have to spend the whole game talking about your dad and asking where he is anytime someone so much as says hello.
Then there's FO4, where your wife only has a max of about 8 generic lines such as
>Looking good
>The baby needs you
>We should go for an outing soon
>Oh no! The baby!
And then she's killed. And I'd totally understand that, if the intent was for you to leave your old life behind and start your own adventure, but that's clearly not the point, because right after your OH SO ENDEARING BABY SON WHO YOU ARE SO ATTACHED TO GIVEN YOUR ENTIRE 1.5 SECONDS INTERACTION WITH HIM gets kidnapped, it's all your character can fucking talk about, often using all 4 options of the "revolutionary" dialogue wheel to mention or ask about your son. Did they really just think that 'paternal instincts' would deeply resonate with their demographic of 12-30 year old single men?
>>342858635
>from birth to adulthood (a couple-hour process)
How slowly do you read?
The longest you spend with him is making your character, if you're one of those people. The rest is spent exploring your room before he picks you up, talking to everybody at your party before he makes you shoot a radroach, and then leaving you before you wake up to Amata saying "your dad is gone"
>>342858434
Hardly, it forces you to put actual thought into your gear.
You need to decide:
How much ammo to take (depending on your weapon rate of fire, weight of the ammo itself and how much combat you expect)
How much food/water (based on your survival skill and the abilty to restock on the way)
How much meds/chems
What kind of weapon (better stats for more weight, maybe smaller caliber to save even more weight) and how many of them (a medium sized weapon and a backup or maybe a bigger wepaon with no backup)
What kind of armor (more protection and less weight or vice versa)
Just how much room for the loot you want to have (better perfomance in combat for exchange for less profits or vice versa)
It's pretty cool, you should try it. It's really no different from limited health and ammo.
Is there a mod that changes Guns to Small Guns/Big Guns split? I'd like more options, not fewer. I always have waaay too many points to spend.
>>342835004
It's much more enjoyable if 0100100001000101001000000101011101000001010011000100101101010011001000000100000101001101010011110100111001000111001000000101010101010011
>>342859218
it just seems like it's basically
>armor
>boom half your inventory is gone
>take a gun or two
>there goes the rest of it
>>342859407HE WALKS AMONG US
W-What
>>342858635
Dude your dad was Liam Neeson. I'd like FO4 a lot more if my child was Liam Neeson
>>342859463
Well it all depends on your decisions.
If you want to go full retardwith power armor and minigun then yes, you won't have enough room fro anything else and on top of that your STR will need to be pretty high.
On the other hand if you choose light armors or even clothing you will still have a lot of room for other things.
>>342859557
Who the fuck is Liam Neeson? He sounds foreign.
>>342859754
I hope you get skin cancer, furfag
>>342859140
Ah, my bad. I forgot that by the time you take the GOAT, your dad is already gone.
>>342859557
This is true. Maybe if there was at least ONE FUCKING THING appealing about your "son" other than the game telling you that he's your son, people might actually give half a shit about him. But since they needed him to be a baby to tie their SUPER DEEP plot threads together (and also because child actors usually have the opposite effect of being endearing), Bethesda must have had a hard time making the mcguffin likeable, forcing them to rely on telling you that you like him, and having a voiced protagonist to show you how much your character likes him.
>>342859754
>Your mother would have been so proud
Oh, the irony
>>342849737
He was prolly joking buddy
>>342846394
Nice
>>342861549
... So was I, nigger
>>342835004
>dead rat
>6 gold
>>342835615
Bingo. Add to that playing on a survival mode with a mod that only allows quicksaving by stoping to rest or have a smoke and this box is damn handy.
>>342839442
This is almost a must-have if you are wasteful with ammo
>>342853918
Yes, that is the proper reaction to Pew-Pew
>>342857559
You can do the DLC at lvl 10 or 15 you autistic fuckhead
>>342837503
>Not taking those empty bottles to make your own sunset sasparilla at a campfire
>>342862491
>10 or 15
maybe with your mods and overpowered added in weapons, traits every level, and all that shit you guys all use.
why the fuck would they make the level requirement higher if you didn't need a higher level?
>>342862519
SS is heavy and doesn't have all that much benefits. Honestly if I'm going to carry around any healing at all it's going to be gecko kebabs
>cheap to make
>weigh almost nothing
>petty good healing
They're perfect
>>342845286
>>342862764
I don't use any mods right now. Maybe you're just bad? It's not like difficulty is a selling point of these games. Gamebryo is kind of actually shit.
>>342862764
>maybe with your mods and overpowered added in weapons, traits every level, and all that shit you guys all use
Actually pretty much all DLCs safe for Lonesome Road and maybe OWB are easier on low level.
This is because the enemies in DLCs scale to your level so if you do DeadMoney al lvl 1 all the ghost people will be piss easy.
>>342863073
>what are stat checks
Post couriers
>>342863424
Okay
>>342854236
delicious addictive pacifiers mm mm
>>342837503
>Going through Sunset Sarsaparilla Factory
>Picking up every Sarsaparilla bottle in every container
>"You are overcucumbered and cannot run"
>Check inventory
>98 pounds of soda
They're like the second best healing item, too. I couldn't just throw them away.
>>342859218
I am all for immersion and shit but dude, at that point just play ARMA or something.
>>342859754
>>342861604Let's get this all out on a tray
>>342863971
ARMA isn't an post-post-apo RPG though.
>>342835004
it always wonders me who leaves behind in box full of junk, or even throws out, an unopened pack of cigs?
>>342865724
they were probably just using it for storage and then they got eaten by a pack of Geckos.
>>342848179
Same here, any game I have to have at least one copy of every weapon. If that's unrealistic I can settle for every unique but it has to be satisfied or I can't consider the game finished even if I'm at 100%
>>342857207
>>342859218
7.62 High Calibre did it almost perfectly
>all gear that isn't carred on body is stored in pockets, vest, backpack etc.
>bigger items require more spacious containers
>weapons can be carried on sling rather than in inventory
>you can fold stock on long weapons so they take up less space
>your strength defines your optimal load
>you can go above it, but it will gradually slow you down
>also will make your stamina drain faster
>>342850615
dying isn't fun either
>>342865724
Don't. Just don't.
>Who can't get through a half-demolished wooden door just because the latch is locked?
>What kind of society just tosses hundreds upon thousands of rounds of live ammunition in the garbage?
>How would caps even work as a currency when unopened soda bottles are still as common as cigarette butts?
>Wouldn't Nuka-Cola bottles be just as valuable as caps due to having those same caps attached to them?
>Wouldn't someone be hoarding both caps and full soda bottles?
>With bottlecaps so common, wouldn't the value of a single bottle cap reduce down to almost nothing, requiring a less-common currency token for larger value increments?
>Wouldn't a barter and trade system be infinitely more valuable to a society that has to scrape by to survive?
>I get preservatives and storage, but how can anyone honestly believe that things like twinkies and TV dinners could still be edible after 200 years?
>How can two tin cans' worth of steel create a full-size 8x10 steel wall?
We'll be here all night.
>>342868852
>>Who can't get through a half-demolished wooden door just because the latch is locked?
Fixed with mods, for example "explosive entry" lets you open locked containers/doors with explpsives depending on your skill.
>What kind of society just tosses hundreds upon thousands of rounds of live ammunition in the garbage?
You can either fix this yuorself in GECK or with Project Nevada by tweaking the drop rarity.
>How would caps even work as a currency when unopened soda bottles are still as common as cigarette butts?
Caps are a dying currency, they were already dead in Fallout 2, they are only a thing because:
1. New Reno destroyed the gold mines in Redding
2. It's common currency accepted by everyone while NCR $ and Legion coins are not
>Wouldn't Nuka-Cola bottles be just as valuable as caps due to having those same caps attached to them?
Bottles wouldn't be good currency because they are huge, heavy and easy to destroy. Not to mention caps themselves don't have value, they are backed by water/gold.
>Wouldn't someone be hoarding both caps and full soda bottles?
Again, bottles are not a good currency.
>With bottlecaps so common, wouldn't the value of a single bottle cap reduce down to almost nothing, requiring a less-common currency token for larger value increments?
That's what happened in Fallout 2.
NV takes place in a place that used to be mostly tribal shithole before, caps were not that common.
>Wouldn't a barter and trade system be infinitely more valuable to a society that has to scrape by to survive?
The game takes place 200 years after the nukes, not 2. At that point barter is mostly obsolete unless you are delaing with tribals.
>I get preservatives and storage, but how can anyone honestly believe that things like twinkies and TV dinners could still be edible after 200 years?
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense, unless you make some made-up excuse like "people invented EXTREMALY good preservatives in Fallout universe"
cont.
>>342869935
>How can two tin cans' worth of steel create a full-size 8x10 steel wall?
I don't get that one, are you talking about settlements in F4?
Because F4 is so full of nonsense and plot holes it's crazy, no one is arguing that.
See it didn't take too long. Most things in Fallout 1/2/NV have actual thought put into them.
>>342835004
What was the point of clipboards and earnings boards?
>>342870207
Physical data storage.
Shit Anon this is not rocket science.
>>342870331
Gameplaywise though.
>>342870207
if you have Pack Rat and Strong Back with a 10 in Strength you can hoard a bunch of useless crap for selling. it complements the melee playstyle because for the most part you only need one or two weapons.
>>342870454
To show that people used them.
>>342870207
>>342870454
Ammo for rock-it launcher and you can exchange them for better materials in OWB. That's about it.
>>342862123
What mod would that be?
