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Why have they been so terrible lately? >Bayonetta 2 was worse
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Why have they been so terrible lately?

>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
>Korra and Transformers were short and mediocre
>Star Fox Zero needs no explanation
>Ninja Turtles was awful shovelware
>Scalebound looks awful

Nier Automata looks amazing, but that's just one game.
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>shovelware
You just answered your own question. Maybe they simply don't have enough money to make great games. Maybe the market isn't that interested in great character action games anymore.
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Working on too many games at once, but also in a shitty cycle where they have to make these shitty licensed games to survive, considering their main games sell like shit.
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>>342828304
>Bayonetta 2 was worse than 1
Stopped reading right there
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>>342828304
>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
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>>342828304
>slice left
>slice right
>launcher
>jump
>slice left
>slice right
>downward slash
>launcher
>slice left
>slice right
>QTE prompt
>mash button
>teleport onto enemy
>slice left
>slice right
>launcher
>cancel
>uninstall
>cancel
>slice left
>slice right
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>lately
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>>342828304
The funny thing is, Nier Automata is the shittiest game you named in your post.
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>>342830223
>automata looks worse than TMNT and Korra
Yeah okay
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>>342828304
>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original

I don't know about that because I don't have the game but I'll say it because fuck nintendo for stealing our game. Really pisses me off Platinum betrayed us.
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>>342829887
>>342829853
It's true though.
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>Bayo 2 worse than 1

Has the salt affected your tastes?

Also platinium has little to no part in sf0
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>>342829887
>>342829853
He's right

Bayonetta 1 combat is better than Bayo 2
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>>342828304
>Why have they been so terrible lately?
Platinum is for hire. The quality of the game depends on how much money and time they were given. It is up to their employer to decide if a good game is worth paying for.
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>>342828304
You know the publishers also played a role as well right? They work under the budget, deadline, and conditions they're given from them.

Is there also no middle ground? Everything is automatically good or bad?
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Platinum was always bad. It annoys me everytime some idiot kid on /v/ says "it would be cool if X game was made by Platinum!". It's literally a anime cutscene QTE fest and some small amount of "action" to mask that there's hardly anything there other than a movie.
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/v/ made the platinum should make everything meme real and got exactly that.
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>>342828304
>Nier Automata looks amazing

Yeah desert simulator with generic slut in high heels that totally doesn't have emotions, so fucking originel donut steel.
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>>342830060
this to be honest. all their garbage plays the same and all they do is rush out shovelware for activision and some other shitty developers like nintendo and square enix. the only time platinum was ever good was with their deal with sega. bayonetta, vanquish, madworld. three different games with their own identity and different mechanics. everything is now LE EPIC CUHRAZY BOSS FINISHER BRO, LOOK AT THIS WEBM OF THIS DANK COMBO THAT 0.000001% OF PLAYERS CAN DO BUT I CANT HAHA ITS SO TECHNICAL XD
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>>342830631
You know, I never say this, but...

Git gud.
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>>342830405
>>342830471
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>>342830673
lmfao

get good at what? platinum has only made 3 good games under a partnership with sega years ago and i loved them all and played the shit out of them. you really think the average retard here is doing any of that shit you see in a webm when they talk like theyre an expert? get off your high horse and use your head, fuck for brains
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All of platinum games are the same, pretty funny when you think about it.
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>>342830786
Really really fun. yes i agree

Also Anarchy Reigns was amazing..I miss it so
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>>342830724
Is that a Precure slut?
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>>342830786
>>342830948
This guy has the right idea. Just because they're the same concept doesn't mean that it's a bad formula. People have the idea that if it's not groundbreaking or innovative, whatever their definition of those terms may be, it's shit because it's not new enough. It's pretty infantile.
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>>342828304

I don't agree about Bayo2 being worse than the original.

But the rest of the games with the exception of Starfox and Scalebound are made by like the C or D team or some shit, and are pretty much meant to be cheap crap games.

I'll blame Starfox on Nintendo meddling but also, it doesn't look like the kind of game that Platinum likes to make.

Scalebound does look awful, but you never know, remember that those awful gameplay sections in E3 are usually pre-recorded crap, so even if they had Kamiya up there """"""playing""""" the game, it's more likely that it was some Q&A scrubs or something, so it's possible, maybe not likely, but possible that the game is actually good. We'll find out when it comes and we get to see the game played by people that are good at it.
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They should make an online game.
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>>342831039

I didn't say It was bad, they just make the same games.

Only platinum games I don't like are ones without upgrades or some progression like revengence.
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>>342831138

But Revengeance does have upgrades, what are you talking about?
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>>342831064
I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors are true and Miyamoto iron fist'd Star Fox into the ground with control issues.
>>342831138
Nah I didn't mean that, but I'm a little confused at your syntax. Do you mean Revengeance is one of those or not one of those?
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>Star Fox Zero needs no explanation

Nintendo took the helm of that project, Platinum was basically there for support.

>Ninja Turtles was awful shovelware

Which is why it really shouldn't count against them. You know the rule for license games, don't expect them to be good no matter who the dev is until it proves itself to be good.
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Everything looks bad except for nier because it's on the console mommy bought me
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>>342831202
I only played the demo. I thought he only uses his sword
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>>342829853
If you're a casual gamer 2 seems better.

If you are playing the game at the top level it's not even a contest, 1 is so much fucking better it hurts.
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>>342831296
You get more weapons and skills in the full game
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>>342830631
i love madworld because it's black and white and beautiful but it had horrible pacing and gameplay ideas
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>>342828304
>>Nier Automata looks amazing

What of it looks amazing? Most of what they've shown was characters walking with 2 seconds of a boss battle in between.
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But All platinum did for Star fox was some ship designs.

Ninja turtles / Korra / Transformers are just cheap shovelware that Activision orders, just something to fund the bigger stuff.

Though the latest Scalebound trailer did look pretty fucking bad, at least Nier looks amazing.

Why do you even keep reposting this?
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>>342831406
This, Madworld has great atmosphere and dialogue but the gameplay is a drag. It's novel for a while but then... eh.
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>>342831352
Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!

This sounds good I might buy it on steam if it runs on integrated graphics.
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>>342831296

No, he gets boss weapons, he can also grab guns from enemies, things like rocket launchers, grenades and stuff. Not that any of that is useful except for some random situations here and there but they're there.

And it has several upgrades that you buy for each weapon, on top of other random skills and upgrades you can get. Should've given war a chance.
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>>342831096
Anarchy Reigns, and TMNT had online. Scalebound is going to have online.
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>>342831406
thats what made it unique. it was flawed but still definitely its own product and not an EPIC COMBOS BRO!!! crapfest that most other platinum games are. the black and white style and brutality of the game made up for its flaws. and it was short as fuck anyway.
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>>342831310
explain
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Transformers wasn't mediocre though, it was awesome. One of the best games of 2015
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>>342830512
>The quality of the game depends on how much money and time they were given.

Scalebound is their biggest game both in terms of team and time spent, and it looks like shit.
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>>342831457
It doesn't have quick weapon switching though, which is a total bummer.
You should try the full game before jumping in blind first. And one of the DLC is god tier and should've been how the whole game works
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>>342831543
All platinum games are short as fuck, and what the hell are you talking about? Madworld was a fucking pointsfest, the whole idea was slapping as much random bullshit together on as many enemies as possible before finally offing them. It just got tedious and that's prolly why it's never been revisited gameplay wise, even if it is still a solid game.
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>>342831564
Scalebound is also being 'joint-developed with Microsoft'

It's no wonder they went for that EPIC MASS SCALE TRAILER look at most triple AAA games do, coupled with shit like

>NARRATE EVERY EVENT BRO JUST IN CASE YOU KNOW LIKE THAT FARCRY WITH METAL ANIMALS GAME OR LOOKING HOUNDS TWO ETC ETC

I'm 100% blaming Microsoft controlling the fuck out of the title.
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>add CUHRAZY QTEs
>everyone doesn't mind it's QTE ridden
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>>342831730
TMNT had no QTEs though.
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>>342831560
Too short though. And random loot feels like content padding
Thankfully suplexing robots can never get boring
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>>342831660
Does the steam version come with all the dlc? I don't see the dlc listed anywhere
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>>342831457

Beware that the other weapons barely have any attacks and are only meant for specific situations.
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>>342831660
You can quickswitch between the main weapon and something else, and change the something else in the actual menu.

>>342831730
Good thing the QTE's are done in a bearable fashion, aka the end of a boss fight.
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Bayo 2 was great but everything else is shite.
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>>342828304
>>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
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>>342828304
Simple, you grew up and they continue to make games for the same demographic
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>Tfw no one cares about Max Anarchy.
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>>342831814

Sounds shit then, nvm i guess ill skip it.
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>>342831730

The difference between Platinum QTEs and other game's QTEs are that Platinum makes QTEs on top of the over the top cuhrazy good combat action. Not instead of over the top cuhrazy good combat action.
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>>342831724

You should look back at Kamiya's previous games and reconsider what MS could have actually influenced.
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What is the movie company equivalent of Platinum games?
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>>342828304
>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
Kill yourself.
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>>342831310
>I have to dedicate my ducking life in mastering a silly beat em up like a Melee player

I'm not that autistic cmon now.
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>>342831814
>Implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtFt4ACLWNc
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>>342830724
I'm not baiting.

Bayonetta 2 had a ton of flaws.
>Several shitty on rails boss fights
>Combos having their damage equally distributed on each hit instead of emphasising the final one
>Difficulty level is a joke, highest level is still piss easy and requires the same strats as the lower ones
>The not on-rails boss fights leave no room for stylish or creative strats, you just dodge to trigger witch time and whail on them or bait an attack and then counter briefly before disengaging to avoid the auto-punish they all have
>Finale is limp as fuck since it has no proper bossrush like the first, and the last boss is a bad joke
>Story is somehow even fucking worse than the first game's


It's not bad, fuck it's actually pretty good on the first run through before you dig your teeth in to try the higher difficulties and appreciate it's supposed depth and find none, but yeah.

Bayonetta 1 is just a better game.
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>>342831905

I loved it for the short time it lasted. It's probably my favorite Platinum game.
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>>342831784
Yeah. Beat the game and access the chapter select
I also heard PC version have boss stage select. That's a huge plus in my opinion. The normal levels could get tedious
>>342831821
Really? Damn, I don't remember. Seeing the menu once put me off and I end up using just the sword for 3 playthroughs
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>>342831970
What are you trying to say, dude?
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>>342831978

I don't know, there are way too many dumb entertaining action movies. Mostly on the 80s, but i'm just going to say Die Hard.

Actually, Kill Bill is probably the closest you could get to a Platinum equivalent now that i think about it.
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>>342831558
For one thing your options for air combat in 2 are EXTREMELY limited. In 1 you can stay in the air for an unlimited amount of time and have loads of options.

Witch Time is so integrated into the game that it's enabled on the so-called highest difficulty, a huge step down from the first game.

The difficulty is nerfed to shit. Hard in 2 is like 1's Normal. Infinite Climax in 2 is like 1's Hard. There is no equivalent to 1's Infinite Climax in terms of challenge.

Enemies aside from some of the stronger demons are overly easy in terms of AI and moveset. Fight Grace and Glory in 1 and then fight them in 2, the difference is obvious.

Bosses are still mostly complete fucking shit even though most of the first game's bosses were also shit. They couldn't even really improve on the first game's flaws.

Weapons generally come in slow and strong and weak and fast varieties. 1 had a good balance of weapons that were versatile, 2's weapons are much more situational. Also there's no Durga equivalent despite that being one of the best weapons in the first game.

The only things 2 really improved are lack of instakill QTEs, less minigames, better visuals, better story, and they gave you MUCH more of a use for the magic meter with Umbran Climax and Umbran Armor.
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>>342831942

I wouldn't consider MGR's combat to be good. In fact, it was pretty barebones.
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>>342832034
Don't forget that most of her weapons have less combos than the ones in 1 did and that the average enemies combat design is boring as shit - you just use the same strat you use on bosses for all of them, unless you're playing on normal or lower, in which case you just mindlessly whail on them.

I also didn't like how item usage and taking damage isn't as punishing to your score anymore just to make scrubs feel better.
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>>342832016
>not having over 2000 hours in Devil May Cry 3
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>>342832183

I do consider it to be good, not as good as other platinum tittles but compare it to any other crap AAA action game out there and it's still far far better.
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I heard rising was extremly well optimized on steam, can HD 3000 graphics run it
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All valid Bayo 2 complaints mhm mhm.

But short-haired Bayonetta and her nintendo costumes make me ROCK FUCKING HARD
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I'm far from a boner but despite the fucking appalling PC, Scalebound is mite-be-cool-tier for me. I like the looks of what they have shown already.
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>>342828304
>Scalebound looks awful
I like how it looks.
Reminds me of Lost Planet 2, which I never got to play co-op because it was dead by the time I finally got it.
I will admit that the E3 presentation doesn't look very exciting but DOOM looked like shit at E3 last year and its one of my favorite games in years.
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>>342831905
Rin Rin and Oinkie 4 life..they were my mains loved them
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>>342832281
I can run it at constant 60 fps with most settings on medium or high on my fucking 2011 prebuilt toaster my parents gave me.
Thing is ridiculously optimized, it should work.
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>>342832281
Yeah, I don't know how they do it.

Shouldn't Japs be bad with PC? What the fuck.
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>>342829887
It's far worse
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>>342832145

Kamiya loves doing large scale bosses and shit like that. Scalebound is a continuation of this trend.
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>People are still salty over Bayo 2 being an exclusive

It's been years, get over it.
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Psst

W101 > Bayo 1/2
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>>342832229
>>342832163
>>342832034
Just tacking onto these anons:
>Umbran Climax is fucking busted as shit to a ludicrous extent, like holy fuck it's so strong it's not even fun to use since you can't combo shit properly and might as well button mash
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>>342832370
>>342832360
Any other really well optimized games like it?
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>>342832478
Devil May Cry 4 will run at 60fps on a toaster

The Special Edition is less well optimised but is still very good
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What if they're putting their best team to work on Scalebound?

>mfw out of nowhere Xbone gets the best exclusive of the generation
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>>342832452
So is Umbran Armor.

But I don't really mind it, it's a much better use for the magic meter than fucking Torture Attacks which are stupid and worthless.
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>>342831905
>mfw just got to play it few months ago when I finally JTAG'd my 360
Hot damn I love beat em ups. Wish SEGA port it to PC just so I can play some football matches or co-op survival with friends
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>>342832478

DMC4 and DMC4SE, although the SE isn't as well optimized as the first.
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>>342832396
Sure, Kamiya also likes swords, so having swords in the trailer means he's 100% in control?

The hope is that there is actually a good game that's just being corruped by external influence, but fundamentally solid.

On the flip-side it could just be that the game turns out to be a slow, tedious mess, hamfisted with fucked online etc etc.
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>>342831138
>I don't like games I haven't played
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>>342832552
>dmc 4 isn't on sale

fug
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>>342832163
So we have one legit complaint, another bitching about witch time which I can't take at face value without playing the game, meaningless difficulty comparisons because I, once again, haven't fucking played Bayonetta 2, a claim that the enemies are easier, whining that the bosses are still shit, and a statement that the weapons are more specialized, with a whine that Durga isn't in the game.

Don't take up vidya reviewing, you're shit at it.
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>>342832478
DMC4 is made with black magic, it could probably run on anything.
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>>342832559

I think it's probably Kamiya in Scalebound, someone else on NIer, maybe Inaba, and some hacks on Fzero.
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>>342832269

I don't consider western AAA games to begin with.

Rising, in regards to the genre it belongs to (japanese action games), is mediocre.
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>>342832559
You forget:

((also for PC))
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>>342830724
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>>342832691
source
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>>342832559
Have you seen the gameplay trailer? It looks like some horrible hack and slash MMO
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>>342832654

Inaba is a producer not a director. He most likely oversees all the projects at Platinum.
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>>342832573

IIRC in 1 magic was supposed to be used for the istant wicked weaves (back-forward p or k) and probably something else
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>>342832625
Not him but why are you trying to argue when you already destroyed your own validity by saying that you haven't played 2 yet?

You have no say in this argument whatsoever.
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>>342832872
It still seemed like a wasted mechanic, at least on Bayonetta herself.

With Jeanne it's more useful since her lack of Witch Time means she relies more on accessories or special magic attacks.
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>>342832586

Do you also consider 101's shooting sections and various minigames to be a Nintendo influence?
Or Bayonetta's istant kill QTEs something imposed by SEGA.

The truth is that Kamiya has shit taste and enjoys putting everything he likes into the games he directs, no matter if they are good ideas or not.
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>>342830724
uh source?
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>>342828304
Bayonetta 2 was on par with the first. 2 steps forward, 2 steps back kinda thing.

The Activision games have taken a blow to their rep, though, don't think anyone defends that shit.
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>>342830342
Are you retarded?

Nintendo bankrolled Bayonetta 2. Sega wasn't going to pay for it, and Platinum couldn't afford to fund it themselves.

>>342828304
Bayonetta 2 was worse than Bayonetta 1 at the top level, but it was still enjoyable to play.

The rest were shovelware licensed by companies for a set cost, and didn't have the typical platinum polish: It was a case of the dev getting X money, giving the publisher the game, and that was that.

I'm going to withhold judgement on Scalebound until it's out. It's still got a lot of time to be polished.
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hey preautist, don't lemme catch you spewing your loyalist autism for SFZ in this thread after we've caught you redhanded last thread.
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>>342833297
Yeah nintendo stole Bayo 2. Fucking thieves
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>>342831724
>>342832314
>>342832328
I blame Microsoft for trying to market the game as something it clearly isn't.
If you read the interviews with Platinum developers about the game its obvious that the game is a Monster Hunter inspired RPG. The game is about going around the open world with you buddies hunting monsters to get better equipment and evolve your dragon so you can go kill other monsters. I don't know why Microsoft is trying to hide that aspect of the game or why they are trying to sell it like its MGR:R or Bayoneta when its clearly not meant to be like those titles.I think that's why some people are disappointed with the footage that has been shown.
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>>342833369
Exactly, I love Monster Hunter so I'm glad it's doing what it is doing, but the presentation it gets is absolutely horrible.
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>>342833369
Is that what it's about? I have no idea.
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>>342833369

I think that last year's demo made it pretty clear that it was going to be an RPG.

In any case, I doubt that MH is going to be it's source of inspiration otherwise it wouldn't have static bosses with exposed weakspots and those terrible animations. What they are aiming for is an average open world RPG, with presumably a focus on exploration.
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MGS rising playable with M+KB?
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>>342833820
Technically. I wouldn't recommend it.
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>>342833369
Really?
Shit man, stupid previews so far then
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>>342828304
>this desperate sonyfag
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>>342833820
About as much as Devil May Cry or Dark Souls. Why did you even ask?
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>>342834007
Because I'm new to PC gaming and I hears Keyboard and mouse are superior
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>>342834105
only for shooters and strategy games for the most part.
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>>342834105
For strategies and shooters, where you need a lot of pin-point clicking ya fucking mong
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>>342832574
Sega didn't want it to succeed anon.
The localized version was ready to go for 4-6 months before Sega decided they need to delay it.
It was region-free, and the nippongo version had English in it, but no one wanted to risk a "new" IP and it promptly died.
;__;
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>>342832629
Only Vanilla though.
Special Edition runs much, much, much worse for some reason.
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>>342833019
What argument? I'm critiquing his useless fucking review, the guy was asked what made Bayo 2 worse and did a terrible job of explaining it.
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>>342834519
SE is optimized badly thanks to the version being developed by the team behind such wonders like Deadly Premonition.

Not saying it's a bad game, just badly optimized.
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Bayonetta 2 is weird in that I love the different weapons in that game they're more fun to play than the alternate weapons in 1, and fighting regular enemies is also more fun and there's a really good variety there too, but the bosses besides (Balder who's literally perfect) are all really bland and samey.
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>>342834405
Ah yeah, I remember that bullshit

What a shame. What other cool looking beat em ups with local/online co-op that also plays great?
Kinda want to get TMNT, but I don't hear good things about it
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>>342834787

Honestly Balder is just as samey as the others, they all revolve around triggering witch time and hitting a few times (unless you use the bracelet) until they die.

Bayo2 is a broken game from a balance standpoint.
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>>342828304
All of that but Scalebound is easily explained. Bayo 2 was directed by Hashimoto, who is an excellent producer and artist but not a very good director. It didn't have the same Kamiya spark. Korra, Transformers, and Ninja Turtles were commissioned by Activision who gave them a shoestring budget to work with, they're cut and dry cashgrab shovelware. Star Fox, I haven't played so will reserve comment. But again, Hashimoto.

And then there's Scalebound. I honestly don't know what's going on there. Bayo and W101 looked much worse than they actually were in the early previews, but they were never quite Scalebound bad. Maybe Kamiya's just fucked up after trying to step out of his wheelhouse. Maybe Microsoft are meddling and ruining everything. Maybe the game's going to turn out much better than the previews suggest. Maybe Kamiya's just dead inside.
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>>342832573
Magic is for accessories more than anything else and torture attacks are great for when you're actually going for a half-decent combo score.

Fucking plebs.
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>>342835070
Kamiya did look pretty dead in E3, but I'm assuming that's because of Microsoft gripping his heart.

>Didn't we leave Capcom to avoid this fate..?
>My feet hurt
>This really isn't that big of a boss fight
>I wish I was tweeting about my waifu...
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>>342835204
There are other ways to get combo score and torture attacks are outright not fun and interrupt the game.

Except the Centaur one in 2 where she puts them in a stockade and pegs their ass with her heels, that one gives me a hardon.
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>>342834619
>SE is optimized badly thanks to the version being developed by the team behind such wonders like Deadly Premonition.
No wonder then
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Platinum haven't released a good game yet.
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>>342835643
Indeed.
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>>342828304
>>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
what.

it's literally better in every single way, especially gameplay.

are you one of those who says it's worse because the final boss isn't a retarded giant, i.e: the worse kind of bosses in these kinds of games?
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>>342835070
Its important to remember that Microsoft is probably one of the worst companies when it comes to properly marketing new IP's. I mean fuck most people don't even know what type of game Scalebound is meant to be.
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>>342835983
More because the difficulty is drastically dumbed down and the gameplay is worse.
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>>342834619
>>342835643
>badly optimized
>still tuns on very high @ 60fps on a toaster

It's still really great, it's just not the logic-defying miracle that vanilla 4 is.
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>>342836110
But the original Bayo was easy and the gameplay is better in the new one with having more freedom to distribute your weapons and carry on more combos.
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>>342835983
Consult
>>342832034
>>342832163
>>342832229
>>342832452


2 is okay for casuals but amyone looking for the depth or challenge of the first game was very disappointed in it.
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>>342836205
>original Bayo was easy
On Infnite Climax the game provides a challenge any game other than Ninja Gaiden doesn't offer.
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>>342830463
>Also platinium has little to no part in sf0
Mate even the director of the game is from platinum, they have as much say as they did in W101.
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>>342828304
>>Star Fox Zero needs no explanation
explain
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>>342828304
>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
opinion discarded
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>>342831283
>Nintendo took the helm of that project,
Actually Platinum did, they even directed it.
>>342831218
>I wouldn't be surprised if the rumors are true and Miyamoto iron fist'd Star Fox into the ground with control issues.
Actually his suggestions were discarded like him wanting the player to choose stages on their own rather than going down a set path.
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>>342836361
Awful control scheme, poor on-foot sections, and underwhelming incentive to replay it.
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>>342831428
>But All platinum did for Star fox was some ship designs.
They directed the game.
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>Top tier
The Wonderfull 101

>High tier
Bayonetta 1
Bayonetta 2
MadWorld

>Mid tier
Metal Gear Rising: Revengance
Star Fox Zero
Nier: Automata (probably)
Anarchy Reigns
Vanquish


>Low tier
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutants in Manhattan
Scalebound (probably)
Infinite Space

>Shit tier
The Legend of Korra
Transofrmers: Devastation
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>>342836205
> the gameplay is better in the new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wnswf_UMsY

This video should explain why that isn't the case. The same system applies to bosses as well, as you cannot hit them outside of witch time.

Also as mentioned before, the new weapons have less attacks and are overall worse.
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>>342828304
>>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original
>>Nier Automata looks amazing

Holy shit taste, Batman!
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They always been an overrated double A jap dev.
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>>342832586
You can't just conveniently claim the bad parts of his games are totally not his fault. Might as well discredit the good parts too since they also could have been caused by exec meddling, I know W101 was if you check the iwata asks and see that Kamiya's original game was scrapped and he threw a tantrum at Inaba.
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>>342836313

The biggest difference with SF0 is that their primary role was that of developing assets.
I'm not interested in defending platinum or the game, but I imagine that final decisions were left to Nintendo employees.
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>Bayo 2 worse than 1

The more consistent frame rate alone makes Bayo 2 a better game.
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>>342830724
Google search yields nothing. Please provide source.
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>>342836621

What was changed in particular with 101? Like, was it going to be filled with even more filler shit, or it was going to be more of an action game?
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>>342836515
>Top Tier
Bayonetta
>Great Tier
Wonderful 101
Transformers: Devestation
>Good Tier
Metal Gear Rising
Vanquish
Anarchy Reigns
>Okay Tier
Bayonetta 2
MadWorld
>Bad Tier
Korra
Turtles
Star Fox 0
Infinite Space

I'm expecting NieR to be Great and Scalebound to be Good
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love how people defending Bayo2 can only greentext thinking they are funny...when people really showing some good arguments of why bayo 2 is inferiors game...
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>>342828304
>Why is a company that regurgitates the same braindead button masher with weeb fanservice so terrible?

I
FUCKING
WONDER
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>>342836757

IIRC the frame rate is roughly the same 40-45avg.
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>>342828304

>lately

Or maybe they were never that good to begin with. Just look at all their games. The majority are really bad.
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>>342836757
Bayo2 and Wii U Bayo1 have roughly equivalent performance, with 1 even winning out during boss fights
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>>342833297
So with all these Bayonetta 2 complaints can people finally stop asking for a port thanks to everyone being dissapointed with it?
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>Nintenyearolds get a movie game and circlejerk it even though it has less and worse gameplay than the first game
Don't get me wrong, Bayo 2 is a pretty terrific anime movie, but it's a mediocre game
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>>342836515
>>342836872

You guys forgot Star Fox Guard

It goes in great tier
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>>342831978
I think a director equivalent is more suitable, something like Tarantino.
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>>342835070
Where reactions to Scalebound's recent E3 footage this bad or is it just /v/ being /v/ as usual?
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>>342831978

Platinum Movies
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>>342837917
Its a mixture of /v/ being /v/, a poor marketing campaign, and console war baby bullshit.
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>>342828304

>Bayonetta 2 was worse than the original

Questionable. But I can't really argue either way, both are excellent games, I love them.

>Korra and Transformers were short and mediocre

Isn't Transformers decent?

>Star Fox Zero needs no explanation
>Ninja Turtles was awful shovelware

agreed

>Scalebound looks awful

So far it really does
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>>342838194
>That pic
What the fuck is even going on? Is that another MirrorMoon joke shot?
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Why do people list Star Fox? All they did was some designs for the ships.
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>buttravaged Sonyggers itt
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>>342834787
>this
On a mechanical level, Bayo 2 is Platnium's best game. However it really lacks the "wow factor" and the spectacle that MGR and Bayo 1 had.

MGR is pretty much my favorite Platnium title despite it's flaws purely because of the bossfights, music and general presentation.

tfw no MGR2, fuck you konami
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>>342838364
Well while I agree they didn't do much, they also handled the OST as well, Composers that worked on previous Platinum games were in the credits.
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>>342832148
Hell yeah if you mean Die Hard 1-3.

Top tier movies.
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>>342838462
>On a mechanical level, Bayo 2 is Platnium's best game.

See the multiple posts in the thread. Bayo2 is a broken and unbalanced game compared to the original.

Also "spectacle" is what is ruining the genre.
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>>342838462
>On a mechanical level, Bayo 2 is Platnium's best game

Scrub detected. Bayonetta 2 is worse mechanically than 1 by a country mile,.
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Saur likes Bayo 2, though.
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>>342838336

H-HAYAI
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Kamiya said he wanted to make a new Okami game.

That can't happen, right? Platinum doesn't have the rights, isn't it?
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>>342839210
It can happen if Capcom hires Platinum to make a new Okami game, or if Platinum licenses the IP. Neither are likely to happen.

All Kamiya said was "it'd be neat if we could do this", not "we're planning these games right now"
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>>342838631
>>342838713
In what way, Bayo 2 had all the same mechanics as Bayo 1. Just because you couldn't perform endless melee combos doesn't mean it's "broken"
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>>342839210
>Kamiya's word
outside outing who Inafune really is, it's irrelevant.
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>>342839210
Kamiya also said he wants to do a W101 sequel.
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>transformers devastation
>bad
I don't give a shit about Transformers as a setting and haven't cared to play any of the cybertron games, but despite the dumb loot system the game has a great system of very movement-based brawls with attacks chaining into high speed movement and shooting almost instantly. It's great.
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>>342839210
Why is the top barrel angling downwards into the bottom one

man that looks shitty
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>>342839424
>That time when he posted on his twitter that he jokingly said that he wanted to work on a new sequel or something like that.
>Gaming news sites took it hook, line and sinker. Articles pop up about his alleged new game even though it's nothing.

Absolute madman
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>>342839424
that Inafune businessman quote gets misused all the time

He didn't say a businessman in a bad way, Kamiya himself said he thinks businessmen are useful and is cool with Inafune
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>>342839424
He didn't even "out" him, his words were taken the completely wrong way, as established in later tweets. You guys are legally retarded.
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>>342836872
This is literally the perfect list.
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>>342839693
He also has tweets about how MN9 is an insult etc etc.

It's not just that one tweet, mate.
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