This better literally be the saviour of PC online multiplayer FPS with:
>Dedicated servers, NO P2P
>EXCLUSIVE FOCUS ON GAMEPLAY OVER EVERYTHING ELSE
>No bullshit microtransactions, NO GAY RPG STAT EQUIPMENT BULLSHIT UPGRADE "MECHANICS"
>Custom FoV with 80 a minimum
>SMALL GUNS THAT DON'T TAKE UP HALF THE FUCKING ENTIRE SCREEN SPACE
>SUPER HARDCORE FAST TWITCH GAMEPLAY
>If babbys can't keep up they GET WRECKED NO HANDHOLDING
>Absolutely NO CONCESSIONS TO CONSOLES, NO PORT, NO BULLSHIT
Get it right id, or I'm done.
>>342822762
its overwatch with quake skin
fuck off
>>342822959
We don't know that, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. DEAD ON ARRIVAL NOT YET CONFIRMED.
>>342823285
>we dont know anything
>except bullshit skills shown in trailer
>also no source on shit thats in OP
eat shit
>>342823546
Those are things I want not things that were announced.
>>342823708
too bad you aint getting this
>>342823849
You don't know that for sure, get cancer and die in a fire.
>>342822762
There are already games like those and no one plays them.
Community itself is the problem with PC gaming, not the devs.
>80 min fov
You're a fucking casual if you think 80 is acceptable for a minimum. 100 or higher it's good for arena shooters.
Also they should ship this with a dedicated server program. For LAN purposes.
>>342823974
>There are already games like those
Can you name the best ones? Warsow is crap and Q3 Live Arena was ruined by idiot management for some reason.
>abilities
>team oriented
penn.jpeg
MOBA
>>342824239
UT pre alpha
Quake Live (latest version added custom maps, community servers, removed loadouts and added gibs)
Toxxik
Reflex
>>342822762
>hero shooter
fuck you id I hope you burn
>>342824113
You can have 1 fov in quake if you want
>>342824556
We are talking about defaults, right?
>team based arena shooter with "heros"
it's shit
>>342822762
That's really naive of you to think, anon
More likely it will have each of those things
>>342822762
pretty sure that overwatch already revived the PC online community wich was getting stale from League/Dota/Hearthstone/CSGO.
Quake Champions will be as popular as the new UT.
wich means not at all.
It won't change people's taste in games. Quake-likes are dead, people don't want to play them anymore. This will be as dead as Quake Live
>>342824881
Not him but why would defaults matter in any way if you can just set them to whatever you want?
>>342824881
minimum and default are not the same word
>>342822762
>saber interactive
it was over before it started anon.
>>342825032
All it needs is a classic mode.
>>342826313
don't worry they have the brilliant minds at Bethesda to guide them
Name one game designed for e-"sports" that wasn't pure shit.
>>342826597
bloodline champions and starcraft 2
>>342826712
>bloodline champions
HAHAHAHA
>>342826712
>starcraft 2
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>342822762
>no open source idTech
Aaaand dropped
>>342826842
>>342826881
bloodline champions died an unfortunate early death, game is fantastic.
and starcraft 2 is pretty good, some might say the best RTS game of the last 15 years.
>>342826204
>>342826198
I meant the minimum default setting when you open up FOV options.
If it's set to 100, but can go lower, then all is good.
>>342826932
It never was a good game.
It was a copy of World of Warcraft map for Frozen Throne with worse heroes and bullshit microtransactions that limited the game so much.
It was like 5 playable heroes per week.
>>342826932
It's the best for sure, but I think that is more of a testament to how dead the genre is.
>>342822762
>Lets release quake 3 arena again but trying to get the twitch audience
>then pull a gaben store of digital hats
>then pull a pro league
>we want the Overwatch audience
Its dead, Jim, let it go
>>342822762
I bet the netcode will be shit.
>>342822762
>loadouts
>classes
>abilities
>team-based
This is not Quake and this is not what a modern arena shooter should be like to stay true to the genre's virtues.
![king_a[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L7laihe.jpg "king_a[2].jpg")
>>342828805
fucking spawn campers
If people really want a legit Arena FPS, then why are games like Reflex/Toxikk/new Unreal Tournament/Quake Live dead/dying?
Is it because they're not named quake?Is name/brand really important?
Maybe the kikes at bethesda/id figured out that truly, arena fps makes no monies anymore and the quake game they're gonna make will need more stuff other than what's been a standard for arena fps years ago
>classes and abilities
DROPPED
>>342822959
ya that's literally team fortress
>>342831465
its a loop
i don't want to buy those games because they're dead, which means they'll remain dead
>>342831702
the new Unreal Tournament is literally free to play
Toxikk/Reflex can be had for cheap
Quake Liveused to be free to play
I wonder for the first three, is it their unfinished nature, due to new UT being pre-alpha/alpha and Reflex and Toxikk being early access, that prevents people from buying and playing them?
>>342822959
Over watch is a slow piece of shit that isn't competitive in the slightest.
>>342831920
it's because of no marketing
>>342822959
tim willits already confirmed SEVERAL times that this wont be a moba style fps like overwatch.
it will be the classic 1on1 arena style shooting we know. no loadouts, everything will be colectable from kills/item spawns. the only difference now is that each character has passiv/active skills.
overwatch 5on5
quake champions 1on1
I know you retards cant handle 1on1 because there is no one to blame besides yourself. go fuck yourself
>>342831920
They're not even out yet. That's why and they've gotten no publicity.
>>342832010
But then people will argue that the money spent on marketing be spent on making the games themselves better
and word of mouth is the best marketing there is; don't need money for that
>>342822762
prepare for dissapointment
>>342831920
>>342831465
lack of marketing mostly people will only play/buy what they are told to, the quality of the game isn't a factor
>>342832010
>>342831920
No marketing and yeah, the fact that it's early access. People don't want to buy something that MIGHT be great, then get tired of the game before it's great.
>no marketing arguement
Then you nigger faggots shitpost about MARKETING MONIES IS A WASTE; SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED IN GAME DEVELOPMENT INSTEAD when the devs/publishers actually do marketing
No amount of shilling is going to save this.
>>342831920
People tend to hold off on anything EA because everyone's been burned by that at least once in the past. Doesn't matter if the game is actually good or not.
Reflex and Toxikk also aren't finished, so the devs haven't even advertised them yet.
Reflex is literally the game everyone is looking for, I don't get why there aren't that many people playing it.
>>342832127
>word of mouth
You mean shilling?
>word of mouth now refers to shilling
No, it means you've actually played the game, liked it, and recommended it to your friends. Then your friends do the same, if they liked the game.
>>342832662
>EA
But none of those games were touched by EA
>>342832662
the reflex guys (3 man) said several times that they will probably cancel their work if id is going to bring out a new game, well and it happened.
they just compete with a triple A titel like quake champions.
rip reflex
There's only one question :
DOES IT HAVE FIXED WEAPONS OR PICK UPS ???
>>342833021
they're both early access
>rip reflex
Implying it was even unbirthed
the kikestarter for it failed, after all
Why can't people understand the truth? ARENA FPS IS DEAD
>>342833147
from what Willits says it's literaly q3 with graphics and an ability button
>>342832103
Epic sources you got there buddy!
>>34283314
TW: There are no loadouts in Quake.
GC: So you pick up the weapon in the map, you know where it’s going to spawn…
TW: Yeah, so you pick up all your weapons, we’ve got the holy trinity. You’ve got timer items; we have timers that help, but you have to get the armour and find your ammo…
source: http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/21/quake-champions-tim-willits-interview-people-are-afraid-of-quake-which-is-kind-of-awesome-5958340/
"i am a gigantic, petulant manchild" -OP
>>342833317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvDyLCadGGY
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/21/quake-champions-tim-willits-interview-people-are-afraid-of-quake-which-is-kind-of-awesome-5958340/
go fuck yourself, fucking asshole.
>>342833406
What about class-bassed abilities? Did he talk about that?
>>342833716
>>342833406
>>342833269
reminder mobashit belongs on /v/
>>342833775
but its not a moba I already linked you several sources.
idgi, are you trying to meme here?
>>342833058
when did they ever say that? also i doubt quake champions will be any good at all
we'll just have to wait till quakecon to see though
>>342833834
Tell me exactly the minute where Willits debunks the champions system, don't worry faggot, i'll wait.
>>342834127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvDyLCadGGY#t=0m29s
first fucking question. and now stfu, you are getting annoying.
>>342833752
he sais each character will have unique abilities as shown in the teaser along with mobility changes etc for certain characters so it's confirmed they are already shitting up the formula the older games perfected
>>342833752
why dont you read the fucking source dude what the fuck
>>342834389
what formula and what changes, so far we dont know shit.
and as some who played vanilla q3, quakeworld and quake live since 2000 Iam glad that the game comes back with new changes. I sure wouldnt play another century the same shit just in a new engine.
>>342834256
>It's not a moba, it's a hero shooter!
>>342834524
i refuse to give them clicks #gamergate
>>342834626
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena
maybe you should look up what a moba actually is before you start posting funny memes.
>>342834540
balance movement everthing being on equal grounds and it all comes down to player skill
he did say that all the normal pickups and stuff will stay of course, i guess we'll just have to wait for quakecon
>>342834256
lol looks like someone didn't watch the video
2:47 "we wanna make champions with all the old mechanics but with the modern gameplay of today, or else we will not sell like memewatch pls buy"
Kill yourself you little bitch.
Those Q3 characters were so good I want them all in QC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6de3nqBpFs
>>342824113
If you actually played AFPS competitively you would know that pros use low FOV. Noctis, Rapha, Cooller, Cypher, Stermy, Clamp etc. all use low FOV.
>>342834849
the worst scenario will be that the class balance will be fucked up and certain characters will dominate others. if that happens, and it will just like in fighting games, people will just pick the best character or their counter matchup and the game will kinda balance itself out.
I find the idea of having matchups in fps's interesting.
>>342835045
if that happens it isn't even quake m8
>>342834540
>this delusion
They blatantly showed balance-breaking abilities on the e3 teaser.
>>342834913
>things he never said
you are interpreting shit, holy fuck.
there is no point arguing with you.
>>342835045
Then why call it an arena shooter?
>>342834976
rapha uses high fov (above 100) and he's easily the best ever
>>342835202
>game isnt even out
>90second cgi trailer
>talking about balance
this reminds of fighting game threads.
scrubs talking about shit they dont understand.
>>342835341
you play in an arena
you shoot
is that hard to understand? I dont see fucking problem. if you really want to play classic quake there is still quake live you can play that.
>>342835225
Watch the damn video asshole, completely, not just the first minute, i know it must be hard for the ADD generation to pay attention to anything besides the 15 second pre-rended video, but come on, try it.
>>342835732
the first fucking question.
>"its not a fucking moba"
what are you arguing about? all you do is interpret shit that willits never actually said.
I understand that you hate neo-id but this is getting retarded, dude.
>>342835473
>90 secs of cgi trailer where they show you the most important gameplay mechanics of the game
>not important
"0.5$ have been added to your account"
>>342835391
also, the same fov setting gives different fov based on resolution
90fov with 16:9 aspect ratio is about the same(horizontally) as 120 fov on 4:3
Half of /v/ will loves this game since it will be casualized garbage like Overwatch. Hell they even added waifus.
>They even added waifus
Waifus have always been in Quake since its second iteration, you nigger faggot
>>342835968
Hey buddy, what part of "watch the hole video" can't you understand?are you that buttflustered that you can't watch the video or else you'll lose an argument on the internet?
Degenerate shithead :^)
>>342822959
This tbqh familio.
I don't understand what it is about Blizzard games that always spawn "killers":
>Starcraftkiller
>WoWkiller
>Overwatchkiller
What do they all have in common?It never works.
>>342831465
"people" really want a new arena FPS
only here "people" refers to like two thousand guys and most of those are just nostalgia tripping
>>342824380
And they're all dead.
Bring on the new Quake, we need something different to revive arena shooters.
>>342836991
>>342837703
you niggas don't know what you want
>>342837703
this
inb4 oldfags flip their shit because the new quake wont be litterally just a port in a new engine.
how dare you?
>>342837903
>People have different opinions and it's making it hard for me to lump everyone together into one group in my autistic mind
>>342837941
I am an oldfag though.
I loved arena shooters back in the day, but I'm not afraid to admit that porting a game from 1999 to a new engine is boring to me. It seems that other vets wont let go of the purist mentality but games like QL, UA, Reflex and Toxikk come out they don't play them.
what is UA?
>>342839021
ukraine?
fucking hell this thread is a mess. worse than ESR even
>>342839202
no i mean it's probably a game, what does UA mean, like what he said >>342838464
>>342839383
Unreal Alpha
What were they thinking?
>>342822959
did you play it?
>quake is now a hero shooter
>>342823916
They clearly mentioned how characters will have different abilities in the reveal. The trailer sort of hinted at that as well.
>>342822762
>no single player
Who cares.
>>342822762
millennials will still play lol and ow
>>342844779
Give me one good reason why this is a bad thing at this point.
Do you want them to pull an Epic and copy and paste Quake on an updated engine so we can enjoy another dead arena shooter?
>>342845116
hero shooters are fucking cancerous
>>342845342
Wow, great argument.
You must be one of the last 800 people still playing Quake Live.
>>342845342
>le cancer meme
Is this even an argument?
>>342822762
>Quake
>As brought to you by the people who brought you R.I.P.D. THE VIDEO GAME and GOD MODE
Yeah fuck off forever.
>>342845461
>>342845556
hero shooters are a disgrace
uneven starts
no map weapons
encounters are mostly based off the characters the players choose
retarded and OP super moves
6v6
its like and evolved form of loadout cancer
>>342836890
dota and lol killed starcraft so it kinda worked.
>>342845560
Considering this is id's next in-house game, I'm pretty much 100% sure they'll just do maps/assets at most and have basically no say on the game design. id outsourced NuDoom's MP and it showed, I'm pretty sure they want the reins on this
>>342845792
>uneven starts
Random spawns in Quake are also uneven starts. Someone will spawn closer to a rocket launcher, for example.
>no map weapons
To be fair, we don't know if there will be map weapons or not. Besides, these are uneven and we know how much you hate unfair matches
>encounters are mostly based off the characters the players choose
Encounters in Quake are mostly based off of which weapons and equipment you start next to
>retarded and OP super moves
There are retarded an OP powerups like quad damage in Quake as well.
>6v6
Team DM and Clan arena aren't new
>loadout cancer
What's more fair than being able to choose your loadout rather than getting a lucky spawn? Ironically, the thing you hate the most rails against everything you've argued against and you don't even realize it.
This game isn't cancer, anon. You are the cancer.
Bethesda is saving FPS
>Not playing DOOM multi
I don't understand the hate, it's fun as fuck
>>342847758
I don't hate it, but it's just boring and dumbed down for consoles. I do like the right click to detonate rocket launcher though, that's a great mechanic.
>>342845792
rofl
you dont fucking know what you are talking about.
none of the things you wrote will be in quake champs. several times confirmed by tim willits.
holy fuck this board
>>342847337
this guy got it
