How would you rank the doom series?
DOOM > DOOM
>>342815076
Final doom>Doom>Doom64>D44M>Doom2>Doom 3
>>342815179
Perfect desu
Doom 2>Doom 64>Doom 3>doom 2016>doom
>>342815156
But DOOM is the objectively better game.
>>342815076
Doom (first three episodes)>Doom 64>Final Doom>D44M=Doom 2>>>shit>Doom 3>>>your mom>Thy Flesh Consumed
>>342815076
D44M>final doom>doom>doom64>doom2> not doom
doom > doom 2 > doom 3
haven't played 4, don't really care to
Doom > Final Doom > Doom 2 > Doom 64 > NuDoom > Doom 3/BFG
>>342815076
Anybody else always see the logo for the history channel instead of id at first glance?
>>342816635
I think you might have legitimate autism.
>>342815076
Brutal Doom>Doom>Doom 3
Only played those three, that being said I like doom 3 if it wasn't called doom I think it would have been more popular
>>342815076
10/10
10/10
6/10
8/10
>>342815076
Just refunded new Doom. Fucking steaming pile of console FPS shit. Clunky movement. I'm fucking disgusted people think it's good.
>>342817183
Cool
Doom > Doom 64 > Doom 4 > Final Doom > Doom 2 > Doom 3
>>342815076
Ultimate > 4 > 64 >/= TNT = 2 > Plut > 3
Duke nukem>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doom
I'm having far more fun than I should while playing the new DOOM.
>>342817536
This is the only correct response
/thread
>>342815076
I'd rank it in a numbered list starting from 1.
>>342817653
>plutonia that low
i bet you havent even beaten okuplok or holyhell, you arent a true doomer
>>342817536
I first played Doom on SNES. Where does that fit in
>>342818253
i think there is a clear difference between fun games and good games. i mean a game can be really good but not necessarily fun and vice versa. for example, i think i enjoy the original doom more. it is in the books a much better game, but then i end up playing doom 4 more. i have more fun in doom 4 even though its objectively worse. same situation for a lot of games, i convince myself system shock is better than bioshock, but when push comes to shove bioshock is more fun
>>342818502
Plutonia has some great maps, but it's also got a lot of bullshit and a lot of weak maps. I've beaten it on UV, still need to UV-max it like I have with the other games.
>>342818557
I'm more referencing the fact that it's a modern shooter, and modern shooters are all meant to be garbage. Yet here's DOOM 2016, actually being fun and dare I say, good. Fast, too. I really do almost feel as fast as I did back when I played DOOM and DOOM 2 all those years ago.
Doom 3 + MODS that make it fast and have adds more monsters on screen > Doom 4 > Doom 2 > Doom 1 > Doom 3
>>342818971
Let's hear you say that in 6 months. Bet you've uninstalled it by then.
>>342817183
What does clunky movement mean?
>>342819047
Ok, I'll bite. Do yourself a favour & buy Serious Sam HD First Edition. Play that for 2-3hrs then go play the new Doom. If you still can't figure it out, by some rope & climb a tree.
>>342819116
SS is fucking shit though.
>>342815179
>Final doom better than Doom
TNT sucks ass
Doom > D44m > Doom 2 > Doom 3 > Doom 64
>>342819179
it really is, but people are convinced that it somehow plays like doom ever did just because it shits out a million enemies that spawn into an empty arena
Doom 4 > Doom 2 > Doom 1 > Doom 3
>>342819043
You're probably right, because unlike DOOM 1 and 2, DOOM 2016 didn't give us the tools to make content and give the game a greater lifespan. Snapmap just isn't enough and will never be enough.
To be fair though, whenever I'm done with a game and don't see myself coming back any time soon, I uninstall it.
>>342819293
>but people are convinced that it somehow plays like doom
Like who? Anyone that's not stupid knows that SS and DOOM are two different beasts with vastly different playstyles.
1 > 2 > 64 >= 4 > 3
DooM II > DooM > DooM64 > Doom 3 > D44M
>>342815076
Doom2>DOOM>Doom>Doom3
>>342819564
Fucken A!
>>342819448
Points for honesty. I'm glad you're enjoying it at least. I left it feeling depressed because I'm feeling my age starting to slip away from me. I think I know how my grandfather felt when rock 'n' roll emerged.
>>342819564
>D44M dead last
Why anon?
Doom > D44m > Doom 2 >>>>>>> Doom 3
>>342819448
im not saying you think that and i dont have any names to go off of (as i only spend time on chans where people are anonymous) but im a massive autist who gets in a lot of arguments and at least three times it involved someone saying serious sam played the same as doom, quake, and so on
>>342819284
Dat nipple
>>342819771
I brought Sam in to this, and I never said it played like original Doom.
My point was to compare the movement to the new Doom, and SS's movement is very similar to original Doom, Quake AND other PC FPS'. I was comparing IT to the clunky shit we have nowadays that fuck fisted faggots like yourself love.
Fucken dumb cunt comparing a swarm based arena-style FPS to Doom. Just shut the fuck up.
>>342815156
DOOM < DOOM
>>342819738
At the very least I'm getting my money's worth out of the game, because I picked it up while it was on sale. I'm pretty sad about the lack of mod tools, though. Imagine DOOM 2016 versions of all of the biggest .wads. Fuck, I'd kill for a 2016 version of BTSX. That would be incredible.
im a megapleb that played through doom 1 and 2 sourceports recently with mouselook and doom 4 looks somewhat decent judging from youtube footage, but im probably not going to buy it in closest 5 years anyway because im poor
i honestly enjoy platforming sections in fpses
>>342820020
>and SS's movement is very similar to original Doom, Quake AND other PC FPS
oh boy here we fucking go, another retard saying shit like he knows what he is talking about. only here will you find people actually praising the garbage movement of serious sam
>>342820107
Yeah, they really shit in the pot re: the modding. They actually could have milked it for years by opening it up like the original. Be nice to see a game last more than 4 years before fading in to obscurity.
It's also the first 'offline' game I've played where a fucken mandatory EULA popped up for me to 'sign' before playing the game. That just stinks.
>>342820214
Just fuck off :o)
Doom3>Doom(2016)>DoomII>Doom
Who the fuck would rank Doom 1 and 2 as good? Outdated as fuck and pile of shit graphics. Go back to 1991 grandpas.
Is Doom 64 really that good? I kind of passed over it because my memory of FPSes on the 64 was that they all were a bitch and a half to deal with because of the controls.
I mean, I played plenty of Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, but using the C buttons to aim was a pain in the ass. Should I emulate Doom 64 or is there a decent enough port for PC?
>>342820761
There's a port for the PC called Doom 64 EX which gives WASD movement/mouse aim etc. Just need to feed it a Doom 64 rom to make the wad file it uses.
>>342815076
doom>64>final doom>doom 2>>>doom 3>d44m
I never played Doom. I know it's been ported to hell and back so is there a version that's best to play on a psp?
I was thinking about emulating the ps1 version, is it a good call?
Also will the psp controls impede my enjoyment or is Doom rudimentary enough control wise, being one of the first 3d fps and all, to be playable on this console?
burtal doom > doom 1 = doom 2 > doom 4
>>342821207
The PS1 version of Doom is the best console port beside 64.
>>342821207
Doom has pretty heavy auto aim. It's mostly a movement game so it plays fine with a dpad. PS1 Doom has a lot of neat extras compared to pc doom but is missing some things. It's very enjoyable though
>>342821334
Except 64 wasn't a port. It was a new game.Story timeline: Doom->Doom 2->Doom 64-> Every .wad ever->D44M
>>342816669
>legitimate
>autism
pic
>>342815076
Well doom came out first, then doom2, then final doom, then doom3, and then doom
>>342818517
It goes in it's own category because it's a port
I'd say It's a pretty good port
I just wish I could circle strafe
>>342815179
>Final doom
Fuck outta here
Doom 4 > Doom 3 > Doom 1 > Doom 2
>>342815076
Doom 2 custom maps > everything else. Nothing else is worth playing.
>>342820761
It is pretty good and has some changes to enemies but doesn't have all the Doom 2 enemies. If you like tech bases the first few maps should be fun, then you go to Hell. The biggest problems is that sometimes it throws Hell Knights at you in corridors and you are just looping left and right in the corridor dodging Hell Knight attacks while they are somewhat meaty monsters. Other times is wondering what the hell a switch does until you realize it is a timed trigger and you run around seeing what actually changed like a platform lowering or a wall opening.
Also those mother fucking Pain Elementals and the god damn Lost Souls they spawn.
>>342821207
There is a fan made PSP port of Doom so you don't have to play the PS1 version of Doom which alters the game a bit, especially with the overuse of colored lightening.
>playing Doom 2 for the first time
>mfw The Factory and Downtown
Make it stop
Atari Jaguar DOOM > DOOM
Doom4>Doom1>Doom2>Doom3
in doom4 i like the abundance of rockets the most, in previous dooms there was so fucking little of the rocket ammo
>>342815076
1=2>3>4
>>342815076
1> 2> 64> RPG > > 3 > 4
>>342817536
>putting d44m before doom 2
>neosummer/v/
>>342826624
There was plenty of rockets in the later episodes, the problem was that rocket launcher is quite weak there.
I think nu-DOOM is superior to DOOM in every way.
>>342827332
>le Doom 2 is best game ever, so patrician XD
Fuck off, Doom 2 city levels are distilled cancer.
>lockdown in effect: the game
>above anything besides Doom 3
>>342815076
Final Doom > Doom II > Doom 4 > Ultimate Doom > Doom III
>>342827332
Doom 2 is objectively bad. The only saving grace it has going on for it is the super shotgun.
>>342827448
>talking smack about doom 2 level design
>when arguing in favor of d44m's serious sam arenas
I'd link you to reddit but I'm sure it's on your quickbar.
>>342815156
I can't
>>342827480
>implying arenas are bad
>>342827587
>Ultimate that low
>>342827775
They are when they're every 5 minutes
>>342827629
Doom II has great enemies and ultimately leaves Doom 1 redundant as a result. There are a handful of mediocre maps yes but not nearly as many as are memed. Doom II at its best easily kills Doom 1 and is ultimately the better game. Ultimate Doom is actually pretty fucking boring in [current year].
>>342827834
uh nah
>>342827894
uh yah
>>342827650
I see you have played neither. D44M is about moving as fast as possible while navigating arenas, Serious Sam is about using the right weapon at the right enemy while dodging projectiles.And Doom 2 is about just downloading wads because its levels make you want to kill yourself.
>>342827865
So much fucking this. Yes, there are stinker in D2, but the limited monster pool in Doom means that eventually it all becomes "what's gonna be in the next rooms? Cacodemons or barons? Yay, it's both" levels.
>>342827927
Sure thing bud.
romero doom >>>>>>>>>>>> piss > shit >>>>>>>>>> carmack doom = neo-bethesda/id doom
>>342827925
but y tho
>>342815076
Ultimate Doom > Plutonia > Doom 2 > TNT > Doom 3 >>> Bethesdoom
>>342828139
translation for nu /v/
Ultimat Doom >>>>>>>>>>>> Final Doom > Doom II >>>>>>>>>> Doom 3 = Doom 4your ranking is wrong btw
>DAAM revenant looks pretty much like the clay model
>everything else has weird over designed armored skins or just look like ayy lmaos
why?
>>342828147
they're boring, let me just run through the level killing all these demons instead
>>342828214
I'd be willing to bet that DOOM 3 was your first game in the series, then you played the original games which came with DOOM 3. You pretend you like the originals and mods over DOOM 3 just because you want people to think you're a 'real' doom fan. Problem is, you think DOOM 3 is better than DOOM 4, which is a dead give away that you don't care about the mechanics which made the series great in the first place. Nice try, kiddo.
>>342828347
that's exactly what arenas are, only you can't run away. and it makes you to work with the level geometry more
>>342828493
>that's exactly what arenas are
you're not running through the level you're just jumping around in the same arena while demons spawn in
Doom>Nuum=Doom2>Doom64>Doom3
TOOT > DOOD > DOOT > MOOT
>>342828474
Final Doom was my first game.
D44M is fucking trash and plays like painkiller, locking you in "arenas" and having le "epic brootal takedowns xD"
If you unironically defend this shit, then you don't even know what Doom is all about.
>Projecting this hard
Dewm is good, the runes are cool with three stacked together
>>342817183
>Clunky movement
But that's only a problem on the console version. Is there something you want to confess to us peasant?
>playing LegenDOOM
>game rolls me a shotty that gives a 3x damage boost upon a kill (making it a super shotty)
>and a super shotty that is "100% accurate," making it a long-range railgun
I'll be honest, my brain is confused, but I'm loving it.
Why the fuck didn't they make this the default cover
>>342823831
this is kinda true
doom 2 community wads and megawads basically kill everything, including other fps games. they're so fucking great. i dont think i've ever had a better single player fps experience than scythe 2
>>342828807
It doesn't play like Painkiller. Painkiller's main problem were not the arenas, it was the minimal enemy variety since there were essentially three enemies reskinned:
>Melee guy
>Ranged guy (who also melees you)
>Kamikaze guy
D44M enemies are all diverse and none of them are redundant except for probably cybermancubus.
Painkiller arenas had zero thought put into them too. In D44M it's actually very enjoyable navigating them and you have to plan your movement, and they have verticality which few shooters have ever had.
>>342825008
theyre not so bad when you know the levels
i actually even like downtown. i can see what they were going for
>>342828909
This old outdated way of thinking has really got to go. Video games are so much more now! They can tell stories and render in-game cutscenes! There's capacity to do so much good that putting them to glorified killing simulators is just a waste.
Sorry grandpa, but, your time is coming to a close
>>342828893
or this
>>342828832
I wish most of them weren't about gay ass meme kills
1 >>>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>> 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>3
>>342815076
DOOM 3 sucked, but other than that a solid series.
>>342828893
Why is Master Chief strangling that poor alien
>>342829131
woah had no idea my comment would result in nu /v/ menstruation
>>342829253
That is sexist and offensive.
apologize.
>>342829186
At mo using the amo vacum n movement ones . It makes it more like beserk mode which is a nice option
>>342829294
sorry
I wish haste was on all the tine
>>342829107
>In D44M it's actually very enjoyable navigating them
Doom is not about locking you inside "arenas"
Doom is not about runes and RPG elements
Doom is not about making the chainsaw a QTE
Doom is not about being able to double jump
Doom is not about highlighting enemies so you can do a QTE on them for free ammo and health
Doom is not about linear map design
Doom is not about fucking its very community with DRM shit
Doom is not about gimped glorified level "editor"
Doom is not about having a literal "le arrow in le knee meme"
Doom is not about wubstep trash music
Doom is not about blizzard tier enemy designs
Doom is not about brootal memes
And finally Doom is NOT a console shooter
doom=doom>>>doom 2
';^) ';^) ';^) ';^) ';^) ';^) ';^)
>>342829498
I like the floaters bout it.
>>342829131
>games should be movies
Get out you millennial sack of shit. Next thing you know you'll be telling me books should be movies too.
>>342829498
I'm not defending Doom 4 but complaining that a 2016 game has things different from a 1993 game is retarded
>>342829830
>I'm not defending Doom 4
>>342829498
look at this pleb
>>342830062
look at this BTFO shill
>>342815076
Doom 2 > Doom 1 > Doom 3 = Doom 4
4 was fun, but it was so painfully forgettable.
>>342829498
Do you even know what quick time event even means?
>>342830438
Yes
Got any other question?
>>342830509
How is using a chainsaw a quick time event in which it prompts you to execute button presses within a limited amount of time, or the same thing with the glory kills?
>>342829806
p sure he was being an ironic memer
>>342830719
You got a limited amout of time to perform the glory kill which a single button followed by an animation.
Are you retarded or just pretending?
>>342830832
So you are saying when an enemy is staggered everything in the game stops and you have to instantly input a button command that pops up on screen and then your regain control or are you talking about having the choice to do a context sensitive command in which you don't have to do a QTE mini game?
How long have you been playing video games to have such a feeble understanding of game mechanics?
>>342831161
Educate yourself retard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_time_event
The chainsaw is fine in Doom 4. The early impressions were really bad because I thought it would be unlimited but they've balanced it very well with the fuel system.
>>342831410
So when you go up and use the chainsaw and it is going through its animation or performing a glory kill it initiates "an on-screen instruction/prompt"? Or do you press a button and it does the animation without an onscreen prompt?
>>342831613
Yeah, I love it how the Chainsaw stops the Gameplay for a couple of seconds. That's so awesome.
>>342831741
>constrain the player into taking only one specific action at a critical moment.
>actually stoping to glory kill demons
Don't you realize it's a mechanic for new players and rip and tear memers
anyway the reason why the glory kills work in this game is because the animations are fast and well done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JvMPMo8INI
>>342832178
How is that true when you get extra ammo and health from them?
>are fast and well done
lol okay Mr. Shill
>>342831903
So the game forces you to do a glory kill when you see a standard enemy highlighted to just kill them? That is forcing the player into one specific action, which you can often ignore and just shoot them.
When you use the chainsaw it saws. When you shoot a gun it shoots. It isn't a QTE, what you are complaining about is a cinematic which isn't a QTE. You choose when you get to use the chainsaw, you will always use the same buttons to attack an enemy with it without being prompted to press another button.
So read that wiki page you just linked so you know what a QTE actually is.
>>342831903
Exactly, QTEs are an action, chainsaw/glorykills are not action at all, merely watching a movie while your real character is invulnerable.
That is why chainsawing isn't a QTE, because it's even worse.
>>342832292
there are ammo and health pickups in the levels and using the chainsaw to get ammo is much more time effective
gotta go fast mein
>>342832389
>So the game forces you to do a glory kill when you see a standard enemy highlighted to just kill them?
Given how they give you ammo and health for literally pressing a button, then yeah it does.
>>342832456
>Exactly, QTEs are an action, chainsaw/glorykills are not action at all
what?
Doom 3 > Doom > Doom 2 > D44M > Final Doom > Doom 64
Atmosphere > Action.
>>342818971
>I'm more referencing the fact that it's a modern shooter, and modern shooters are all meant to be garbage.
This line of thinking is pretty dumb. Are you really this desperate to align yourself with whatever /v/ deems as shit?
>>342832603
>gotta go fast mein
How am I supposed to go fast when they force me inside this arenas until I kill the wave of enemies?
>>342832730
>>342831775
Oh no 2 whole seconds that also replenish your ammo.
>>342832826
fucking garbage
>>342832696
you get good at killing the waves of enemies using your wep arsenal and overall knowledge of the encounter
Doom 3 is pretty fun
Nothing like GOIN FAST and putting a shotty in a demons mouth
>>342832917
That doesn't sound like Doom desu
>>342832607
You have a loose definition of force. So when you run out of ammo all of your controls are locked and you magically have an enemy appear in front of you and then you get an onscreen command to do movement rotations and button inputs to successfully perform a chainsaw kill?
How about this, post a screen shot of the new Doom that has QTE prompts like the Resident Evil 4, God of War, and now Shenmue examples.
I am not saying don't have complaints, but actually know mechanics before you start complaining about things that aren't even in the game.
>>342832826
So you willingly break your flow only for ammo you wouldn't need if the developer had put any effort into item placement.
Doom 4 doesn't completely suck but it's worse than the originals in every way.
>>342833123
Alright smartass, if they are not QTEs then what are they? huh?
I thought so
>>342815739
DOOM2>D44M>DOOM3>>>DOOM
Bethesdoom was a mistake
>>342833226
The glory kill is a context sensitive command which results in a mini-cinematic. The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time used context sensitive commands such as the A button being used for a myriad of actions based upon what the player was next to.
The glory kills are similar to when the enemies are staggered in the God of War games, they have a big O above their heads and if you CHOOSE to press O next to them THEN it goes into a QTE which the QTE doesn't happen in the new Doom game but the context sensitive command does.
>>342833549
>is a context sensitive command which results in a mini-cinematic
doom > doom 3 > doom 2
>>342833146
Dont fucking use it then. There are items placed all around the map but sometimes its literally faster to lose one or two seconds using the chainsaw. They dont even make the animations too long.
But muh autism flow.
>>342815076
DOOM....That's it. all the other DOOMs can suck it
1 > 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>4 > 3
>>342833732
It's not about the length of the animations. No matter the length the animation still stops your gameplay. Also the game is designed so that you have to use glory kills in the later levels, at least on higher difficulties.
>>342833612
I am not saying if it is a good or a bad thing, I am saying what it is which isn't a QTE which prompts you to on the screen itself to press certain buttons within a limited amount of time.
If it did that then you can easily go on Youtube, screen shot the actual QTE, and prove me wrong. Until you produce an image from the new Doom game that mimics the images that I've been posting then it doesn't have QTE's.
>>342833226
Sync-kills.
>>342834085
Sounds more reasonable than this fag >>342834073
DOOM 4 needed on more boss fight earlier into the game and it would have been the perfect campaign
I understand how difficult it is to design a good boss fight in a FPS but still
I still think the campaign surpasses the originals
>>342815076
I'll sum it up for you
every doom that came before 1999 is patrician literally flawless masterpieces that will remain in human history
every doom that came after 1999 is literally vidya holocaust garbage thrown out by a corrupt industry killing perfection for a quick buck
t. /v/-hipsters and vermin
>>342834216
>neo-/v/
>>342834216
one more*
>>342834148
>Can't come up with any proof so just stubbornly argues
>Call him names
Choke on your mothers cock gaylord.
>>342834148
But that fag is right, dumbass.
>>342834335
>>342834345
>him
>I'll use my phone to post twice i are so smart
And I thought you couldn't be more pathetic
>>342815076
Original DOOM > DOOM 4 > DOOM 64 > Plutonia > Thy Flesh Consumed > DOOM 2 > TNT > Master Levels > Resurrection of Evil > DOOM 3 > Lost Mission >>>>>>> Brutal Doom
Watching people placing D44M before anything makes me fucking sick.
Just how low has /v/ fallen?
DOOM 64 is the most underrated game of all time.
>>342834418
What is it like living with paranoia?
>>342834573
>Expecting kids these days to play a game from 1993 before a game from 2016.
>>342835035
What is like being a cuck?
>>342835098
I'm not the one raising bastard ideas like you.
Half-Life is a better series, with a better modding scene too.
>>342835051
>>342834573
I-I did
I bought Ultimate Doom and finished it. while waiting for my copy of D44m to arrive.
>>342835051
>>342834573
things children would say on anonymous image boards while desperately trying to fit in
that episode again
So how is the new DOOM anyway?
>>342835603
Gureato
>>342835603
You have:
A) old people who have played FPS their entire lives saying it is trash.
B) old people who have played FPS their entire lives saying it is great.
C) young people who have played FPS their entire, short lives saying it is trash.
D) young people who have played FPS their entire, short lives saying it is great.
>>342835603
>>342829830
>I'm not a faggot but I love sucking on big fat cocks 24/7
>>342835603
I like it. Pc version has some issues starting and crashes occasionally(one level is apparently notorious for this) but once the game gets going it actually runs really well.
>>342833996
Pretty sure using glory kills on higher difficulties is asking to get killed.
>>342834418
Mate, I suggest you only make accusations when you have proof of such claims. Otherwise you will look like a lunatic.
>>342836065
I was going to call PS, but it seems that you are too tech illiterate for that to be a possibility
>>342833996
Watch good players on high difficulties.
>>342833996
>Also the game is designed so that you have to use glory kills in the later levels, at least on higher difficulties.
Literally the opposite is true
>>342815076
Doom > Doom 2 > Doom 64 >DOOM > Doom 3
>>342815076
Final Doom > Doom 2 > Doom > Doom 4 >>>> Doom 3
>>342819263
The first doom maps are pretty shallow compared to it, hell the only maps I still like from it are the Romero-made ones.
>>342815156
You're retarded.
>>342819564
>D44M behind 3 or 64
For what reasons?
>>342837271
64 is amazing though. It's the real DOOM 3
>>342836717
>Literally the opposite is true
Literally the opposite is true
>>342815179
Move Final DOOM behind DOOM and you're golden, if it weren't for TNT Final DOOM would be better.
Doom 3 is only 2,49 on Steam right now and I have never played it. Everyone keep warning me it's utter garbage but I loved the first 2 games and I'd like to try it, at least to see how it is myself.
Is it worth that try, or am I really going to get bored to death? I just don't want to waste my time either.
>>342839572
You're buying a poor mans Half-Life.
>>342828605
>>342828807
Alright I'm just gonna assume we're talking about speedrunning here, because I honestly can't see why else would anyone want to just run past everything.
I've done some speedrun attempts in D44M and honestly the arenas are not that bad. You can skip a lot of them by legit means and then some with bug abuse. In the end you'll be just 'rocket'jumping everywhere with gauss cannon and not giving a fuck about any lockdowns. Seriously, gauss cannon is an awesome weapon and if you're not using it to reach places even when you're not speedrunning you are missing out. You'll still encounter a few arenas during your playthrough but what the hell, if you seriously dislike the idea of having to kill some demons in order to progress how about you pick up a different game.
>>342829498
>And finally Doom is NOT a console shooter
Doom has been ported to literally evertything including most consoles.
>>342840475
But it was never designed with consoles in mind
>>342840543
Nor is D44M.
>>342840603
You can't be this deluded
>>342820020
>SS's movement is very similar to original Doom
Pretty sure Sam is as slow, or slower than New Doom Guy. I never had a problem with New Doom Guy's movement.
>>342832178
>Don't you realize it's a mechanic for new players and rip and tear memers
No it's designed to keep you moving and action fast and fluid so you can heal while never stopping the fight.
>>342832619
>Atmosphere > Action
>lists Doom 64 as the worst one
????????????????
That game is literally like 90% atmosphere with the exact same gameplay as Doom 2.
>>342832619
Doom 3's atmosphere is shit.
Darkness =/= good atmosphere.
>>342840656
kek you're so jaded its hilarious
I prefer to laugh at it because you're such a sad person
the game runs like a dream, looks fantastic, has unlocked framerate unlike TNO, and is meant to be played with mouse and keyboard.
ultra nightmare mode is for those who can get gud
I guess you cant and that all you can do is hate on everything other people enjoy
kindly go fuck yourself you're /v/ cancer incarnate
>>342841156
Why are you so defensive mr. shill?
>>342841156
you don't understand. It has console versions on launch and it's a modern game.
That means it clearly was console focused.
Disregarding that the console versions run like shit.
>>342841156
>you will never be this autistic
feels good desu
>>342832619
>Doom 64
>No atmosphere
>>342841352
>>342841215
>defensive
>autistic
>shill
fucking lol
>>342841332
there is no point arguing with /v/ermin really
all I'm doing here is expose them as the low life manchildren they are, and the butthurt is definitely worth it
>>342815076
Anything that's cool for more than 5 minutes > Doom > Anything that's cool for more than 30 seconds > NuDoom
Didn't play the rest.
>>342840543
>non-mouse
>not practially a controller game
>>342818557
>Doom 4 is objectively worse
>not plutonia 2
>>342832619
>retarded opinion
>contradicting order that is also retarded
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>>342817183
you should probably kill yourself. it's a solid 8/10. not as good as the originals but much better than doom 3.
>>342835603
It's great. I'm this guy's >>342835849 option (B), 30 years old and grew up on all the classic right from their respective release dates. I love Doom 4. It's probably the best officially released FPS I've played since 1997 (Blood or Shadow Warrior, whichever one was released later).
>>342843248
*Talking specifically about single player FPS just to be sure.
>>342820601
Bait?
>>342842967
Considering the base game and nothing else, it's better than Doom 2.
