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Alright /v/, what are the greatest space games of all time?

What upcoming space games look amazing?

Why is this genre so dead?
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>Why is this genre so dead?

Because it's very difficult to do right. FTL is a great example; it had great atmosphere and visual feel, but fucked up being too RNG heavy.
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Freelancer is the only game here worth mentioning.
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Genre is dead because Freespace 2 and Freelancer mods perfected the genre years ago,

Since then we've really only had the X series to keep it alive, and the latest game flopped hard.

There has been a resurgence of games, Elite: Dangerous is immersive, but really really fucking dull content wise as it all revolves around credit grinding that makes EVE look fun

Then there is Star Citizen, which is shaping up to be one of the best space games ever made, but its too early in development and is suffering from extreme feature creep, however on the current alpha build being able to exit the ship and go exploring in a derelict station or run around planetside, or even run around on your own ship while it is in flight is pretty fun, we just need to hope that it doesn't go full Elite Dangerous and actually remembers to add in content to do.
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Have you been hiding under a rock? The space genre has been coming back to life since 2012.
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>>342814983
>pay2win online only garbage
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>X3: TC
>Sins
I'm almost tempted to say Spore because the Space stage is very impressive. But it's just so boring after a couple of hours.
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>>342814129
>why is this genre so good?

Pretty sure its getting damn near oversaturated at this point. The amount of space games in the past year alone is staggering

Open your fucking eyes
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I think Starsector has great potential. But the devs need to expand upon commerce, industry and the strategic elements of battle.
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>>342814983
what game?
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I've been playing Rebel Galaxy on cuckstation. It's okay. Pretty much like Freelancer except you fly large ships from the start. You can't fly up or down, the combat is basically naval warfare in space. Small fighter ships can fly up and down but capitals and larger are on the loose 2D plane. Your mounted turrets automatically fire while you focus on broadside cannon barrages. It plays better than it sounds. I played a lot of Freelancer and my PC is too shit to handle the X series games so this is an acceptable game in the same vein. You can trade, hunt bounties, deliver cargo shipments, pretty much everything you do in Freelancer you'll be doing in here. So it'll get old just as quickly.
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>>342814517
Same thing with stellaris, the RNG fucks me every time. I got tired of rerolling and gave up.
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>>342815630
>So it'll get old just as quickly
You mean even quicker, since there's what, 12 systems total? They all look more or less the same and parts of them like junk fields are procedurally generated

The game also ends around Mk5 so going the extra mile to upgrade to Mk6 gets you nothing but grinding
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>>342815104
>pay2win
Its not out yet, there is no competitive mode
>always online
They haven't released tine campaign yet.
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It's dead because multitudes of retards continue to fall for the 3DPD meme. Bird's eye 2D space games are superior in every way.

If you disagree, then you're wrong, and it's time to kill yourself.
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>>342814129
>Alright /v/, what are the greatest space games of all time?

Free Space 2 for the best space fighter.
Homeworld for the best space RTS.
Master of Orion 2 for the best space TBS.
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>>342815819
>stellaris, the RNG
>RNG
Nigga what
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>>342816025
RNG controls which planets will have which resources, which planets will be habitable and with how much land, which empires will spawn close to you and with which type of setting. I've got constantly spawned close to the edges of the galaxy close to almost no habitable planet, with a fuckload of empty space (thus forcing me to focus on control area even more) and almost no energy available. I just got tired of the unfun.
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I'm looking forward to No Man's Sky
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>Routine seems to no longer be in development
>You will never explore a wrecked space station and try to figure out what happened
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>>342816305
Sounds like you had one or two bad runs, but the RNG is not that bad, in fact its near non existent. The game is set up so its balanced for all factions at spawn so everyone gets a fair go.

Download no clustered starts mod, stops you getting boxed in if thats your issue.
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If only Elite wasn't so fucking ded, they just released the Engineers and want to release another patch but I think at this point the game is irredeemable.
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>>342816494
>Hey guys we are bringing in new unique weapons so you can mix up how you play!
>Why of course we made it entirely RNG, who would want to control what weapons they get!
Fucking worst developers of all time. They should have stayed in the 90s.
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Starsector is everything Elite's trying to be, just in 2D. And actually fun. And not a scam. Developed vy someone that listens to his fans. Unlike Braben.
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>>342816569
>Starsector is everything Elite's trying to be, just in 2D
except no MP
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>>342816425
yea that was some bullshit. they show off some shit in 2012 get money bail in 2016...
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>>342816494
Braben just needs to get off his self entitled high horse and do what he said he was going to do, revamp the game.

The fact that it is all grinding with no real economy, that its player driven without player control is retarded on all levels.

What they need to do is give players better long term goals besides credit/rank grinding, and stop baiting lore fags with red herrings and add an actual exploration community goals about finding cool shit, with mission chains that hint at hidden secrets, rather then just hoping the the gods of chance lets a player find the next set of barnacles or whatever the fuck.
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The best space game already happened.
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>>342816602
Multiplayer in elite is a hack anyway

>random instances
>wings to grind 10% faster
>no actual multiplayer driven content, just grinding
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>>342814875

I've played the ever loving fuck out of Freespace 1 and 2, but never touched Freelancer. Worth a playthrough?
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>>342814129
>Why is this genre so dead?
Because everyone seems to think space games need to be open-world economic simulators.

By the way, what game is that in your pic? I don't recognize it.
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>>342814129
X Wing vs TIE Fighter
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>>342816494
>place 1,000 stars into a new category as player owned
>fill each star with either an outpost or station (maybe even multiple)
>set it so if you land on the station you claim it
>stations must be maintained with supplies and fuel
>will defend themselves with basic weapons/fighters if they are supplied, but players will be expected to defend them from other players primarily. Stations should be hard to take if you dont have a group.
And suddenly the game has purpose, this would also have no fucking negative effect on the forum dad bitches
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>>342816758
Sure, but apart from the impossibility of him ever doing it, Starsector MP would be pretty fun though
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>>342816837
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpgate_Evolution
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>>342816817
Maybe, but Freelancer is very different. For one thing, you fly with the mouse instead of a joystick, from third person instead of in the cockpit. It's also an open-world kind of game, not mission-based like Freespace, and there's trading and stuff.
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Battlefleet Gothic is really neat. My favourite space game in quite some time.
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This game is pretty neato. It's great with a few friends but the community is awesome if you wanna matchmake. Definitely worth a shot
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>>342814129
Dreadnought seems fun but fuck purge rams and rams in general.
Also being closed beta means the playerbase is fucking tiny. Haven't really bothered in about a week
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Dead genre senpai
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>>342816720
And yet it sold poorly because it got basically no advertising, so the genre as a whole became viewed as a failure for years.
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>nobody will ever make a properly slow-fast game with c-limited information spread
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>>342814797
Mah nigga
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Is Duskers a space game? Because it's my GOTY so far.

>almost out of fuel
>send my drones into an old fuel depot to try to salvage some
>Getting tired, accidentally type "d19" instead of "d9"
>xeno rapes my drones as I'm still trying to figure out what even fucking happened
>all my good modules are on the drones that got raped, only have a towing drone in my shuttle
>try to herd the xeno into a different room
>sneak in with tow drone
>xeno rape
>starve to death slowly as my ship runs out of fuel
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>tfw no option to skip the grind in Elite and just instantly get one of the bigger ships so that you can start having fun

I know that in terms of mobility the Eagle is the most maneuverable, but I really just want a big ship to fly around and explore in. And actual worthwhile content and things to find. Tried so many times to get into Elite and every time I just end up stopping after a few hours because the game is just empty and there is no incentive for you to do anything. 90% of the time you don't even see anyone, the instancing was a terrible decision.
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EVE is the best space game, but n00bz don't understand warfare or economics so they blame the game for their shortcomings.
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>>342822013
>EVE is the best sedative

I agree
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>>342822013
That's because people don't have what it takes to play EVE like that. Hence they wind up shit kickers and quit.
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>>342816569
are those... EVE ships?
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Any other games like Freespace?
I.e. you are a military pilot and who gets send to one battlefield(-space?) after another.
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>>342817925
that's a ship from starship troopers
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>>342822013
It's funny because EVE is what everyone complains WoW and FF14 is not.

>Why do *I* have to make my own fun in this social MMO
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I liked strike suit zero
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>>342823017
The game might have a crazy modding community.
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There's that coop game with every player being the crewmember of a smaller ship and you gotta do shit star trek style
dunno it's name, still in EA I think
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>>342824452
What's the point of your post then?
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>>342824452
There's a new VR Star Trek game coming out if that is what you mean
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>>342814129
>4X
Master of Orion series
Distant Worlds Universe
Sword of the Stars 1
Galactic Civilizations series
Stellaris*

>RTS
Sins of a Solar Empire
Homeworld 1+2
Gothic Fleet Armada

>Dog fighting
Freelancer Series
Tie-fighter vs X-wing Series
Rouge Squadron Series
Strike Suit Infinity

>RNG fun time
FTL
Tharsis
Duskers*
Into the Stars

>Open Ended
Freelancer
X3 Series
Rebel Galaxy
Starsector
Space Pirates And Zombies

>Multiplayer
EVE Online
Star Citizen*

Special mention to Space Engine, Universe Sandbox, and Starship Corporation*.

>* These games are basically incomplete and shouldn't be bought yet

Anything I missed? Anyone know if Ascent is any good?
If anyone says Endless Space or X:Stillbirth you're getting blown out the airlock
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>>342814129
Sins of a Solar Empire probably doesn't count, but I've been playing Rebellion.

>32 Cap Ships limit
hnnnngggg
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>>342824424
How are you even supposed to fight that thing?
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>>342824840
>play as psychic spess-feminazis
>max cap ship limit and build nothing but carriers
>improve beam weapons
>fill out unit limit with drone carrier frigattes
>watch as a framerate-raping swarm of drones devours everything
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X3: Albion Prelude is really good OP
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>>342824883
Stick 2 point defense ships at the front of your fleet and it's fucked
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>>342814875
What Freelancer mods are worth trying?
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>>342824840
>THIS SHALL BE OUR FINEST HOUR
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>>342825056
Terran Conflict is better.
Albion Prelude has absolutely no hostile random encounters.
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>>342822013
Eve is ruined by poor developers and a horrid community

The base idea is great, but its ruined by the above
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>>342824883
Point-defense lazors
But it looks like a mod that adds OP shit so there's gotta be a mary-sue-shield or something
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>>342824832
Change Special mention to Sandbox and add Kerbal Space Program.
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>>342825171
/v/lancer is bestlancer
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>>342824832
SoaSE is more 4x than Stellaris is at its current state
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>nobody mentions Space Rangers

It's so damn good and I'm pissed they ran out of money or whatever the fuck happened to the 3'rd one.

Also I'm one of the few people to really like X Rebirth. So many fantastic ideas in that game, a shame they failed to implement them well. I'm happy they're working on a new one, with everything they learned from Rebirth and the criticisms.
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>>342825430
Any that are not tied to the multiplayer?
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>>342825484
Space Rangers devs either broke up or got put in gulag, either way the series is dead
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>>342824832
>If anyone says Endless Space or X:Stillbirth you're getting blown out the airlock
I liked Endless Legend so I have hopes ES2 will be much better than ES1.
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>>342825590
>set races
I just cant see it competing with Stellaris, particularity since Paradox is starting to pump out content like mad
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>>342825323
I hate EVE and only played it for like 10 hours but it honestly seemed to have one of the best communities of any multiplayer game.

>Fly into PVP space, get fucking rekt instantly
>Guy notices I'm new and gives me some pretty good tips
>Chats were always filled with discussion on in-game, Economics, or historical discussion

I never got into the Null endgame or whatever so everyone probably a massive cunt there.
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Did anyone here ever played Colony Wars:Red Sun?

Its a fun ship combat game.

Its basically Armored Core but with ships instead of mechs
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>>342825739
The vast majority of the game, which takes place in corps, is one of the worst experiences you will ever have in a multiplayer community

Its the single most narcissists self centered concentrated faggotry imaginable, its like being on /v/ really.
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>>342825876
>It says here your only experience is flying with Goonswarm?
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>>342826194
I played in multiple of the largest corps about 2 years ago and they were all fucking awful self entitled cunts.

Honestly Eve would be a great game if the whole community was purged and perma banned so a fresh group of people could come in.
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>>342826341

Why they dont open a new server then?
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>>342826468
>there will never be an EVE server with SP turned off and everything just costs more and is harder to get

The perfect game.
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>>342826468
>milking their current playerbase dry
>Eve is almost dead, barely holding on due to multiboxing (even though they 'tried' to stop it)
CPP are actually awful developers, they pulled a Blizzard and stumbled upon an MMO formula that worked but have no idea how to make it better

Just look at every other game they've ever made, total disasters.
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>>342826493
Post more, I need my daily dose of hype
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>Space Station 13 will never ever have a good 3D remake
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>>342816720
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>>342826493
>if he walked a cm forward he would clip outside the ship and be thrown into another dimension
I really really really want SC to succeed, but I really doubt it will.
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How about scifi FPS/TPS shooters? Are there any good/alive ones out there?
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>>342825661
>set races
Not sure how Stellaris does it. ES is very much like an old 4X game called Stars! Primary trait plus secondary traits. Except in ES primary trait determines your appearance as well.
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Star Trek Online is the best space game if you want to feel like the captain of a ship.
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>>342817925
wtf is it with the ship from Starship Troopers
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>>342827059
>tfw STO is probably the last good Trek media we'll have for at least the next decade
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>>342824971
Yeah, that's my play style.
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>>342827015
Stellaris gives you full control of your factions traits, government, ethos, ship/buildings/planet/race design and its all easily moddable.

ES2 has a handful of set races that play one way, and a handful of other minor races that all play one way too, so you know the moment you find them who they are and what they like. In Stellaris you have no idea until you find them and learn about a race what they are and you could be next to anything from a slaving militaristic junta hell bent on killing your ass or a pacifistic monarchy that wants to be left alone.

Plus there is a metric fuckton of species which is always nice
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>>342819070
source?
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>>342822013
>eve
>game
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>>342824424
I feel like this thing is based on that one /tg/ pasta.
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>>342826341
What would stop them from going full circle?
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>>342827470
Nothing, thats why we need continuous purges

Or they could just fix the fucking game and stop letting it stagnate
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>>342814129
Project Sylpheed on Xbox 360 was pretty dope. The story was stupid as all hell, but damned if it wasn't one of the best games at making you feel like a badass superfighter pilot.
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Darkstar One is super cheap on steam at the moment. It seems like a limited game.

I know it pales in comparison with other games like Freelancer but is it fun in itself ?
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>>342827390
you realize that custom factions will be a thing right. just like in the original ES
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>>342827521
The game doesn't stagnate, its just slow to move, if sov wars were won and lost overnight (Despite what the map would show) then no one would live in nulsec anymore.
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>>342827753
They have always been second class citizens hue to the main factions
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/419480
Star point Gemini warlords any good?
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>>342827287
what about that VR co-op thing or does that not count
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>>342821747
That's what long range smuggling is for.
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>>342828185
>new SPG game
holy fuck. Didn't even know.
From the steam page it seems to be
>SPG2, but with bigger ships and you actually take control of sectors
You can't go wrong, really.
Starpoint Gemini 2 was fucking great.
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>>342827287
All we need is a good Bridge Commander sequel and there will be interest for the next 10 years
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Flotilla was fun
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What happened to Limit Theory?
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>>342829273
>WOOOOOW
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>>342827287
At least it's a good one. It especially gives you that captain feeling while commanding a carrier and moving your slow ass into position while giving orders to your fighters and frigates.

All we need is a carrier 4-5 hangar slots and we'll be gold.
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>>342814129
I've been playing eve for 12 years, and still loving it.

That being said, I'm also looking forward to other space games, like endless space 2. Which I still can't believe is coming out.

I wish freespace 3 came out, or Allegiance 2. I mean just listen to all of this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HpaWcDX0f4

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMa3LXe6oVc
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>get in Starfarer
>dick around Olisar for a bit
>warp out of the Armistice zone
>some guy I didn't know was onboard shot me in the head and flew off with it

Good times
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>>342830038
what can you actually do in scam citizen these days?
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>>342823251
X-Wing
TIE FIghter
Wing Commander
Wing Commander Saga (standalone total conversion for Freespace 2)
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>>342830250
Shoot people in ships, shoot people on space stations, buy clothes and guns, run people over with buggies, race people in ships, shoot NPCs in that wave arena mode thing, CTF

That sort of thing
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Endless Space 2 early access is coming this month.
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Anyone played Space Pirate and Zombies 2? I heard they fucked up the combat which broke my heart. Really liked SPAZ1.
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>>342830379

So it's a series of minigames?
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>>342830473
oh look another 4x/grand strat turned based RTS

just what we need......
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>>342815575

shit citizen
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>>342825808
I played it. It was good, but I prefer the other two Colony Wars games. Red Sun has a different aesthetic that I don't really care for, and the combat just feels worse. I also thought it was weird how suddenly there were all these alien races around when finding even one alien race was a big deal in the previous games.
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>>342830473
YES
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>>342824424
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>>342824424
imagine the godlike amount of math put into those missiles

I mean not programming wise, just the fantasy of it
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>>342829654
I didn't think fighters were even a thing in Star Trek.
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Vandread Love Quest
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>>342830638
Shut up knave, we need more of those
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>>342830473
>early access
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>>342824424
>>342824148
There are a serial or crack for the latest version? I am surprised to not find one seeing how popular this game seems to be.
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>>342824148
Stuff like that makes me really wish Ring Runner was moddable.
I want a pulsar gun where the pulsar shoots out pulsars which shoot out friendliness pellets.
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>>342825661
I remember you from /civ4g/. You continue to be dead fucking wrong. Every "race" in Endless Space is composed of a set of traits with an associated cost. You can freely swap and mix & match all traits to construct your special snowflake dank meme faction. And that's just the vanilla game, you can mod the trait budget and construct your dream autismal faction. It offers no less freedom than Stellaris.

Stop with the misinformation. It's perfectly possible to take the faction skins of the United Empire and assign them the traits of the Cravers, Sophons, Hisho and whatever to make a new faction with new gameplay mechanics and the same sleek battle cathedrals of the United Empire.
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I never got around to playing Freespace 2. The point and click main menu was so comfy.

is the updated graphics mod really better? I looked at screenshots and thought the original had better art style
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>>342824832
Starpoint Gemini 2
It's like Mount and Blade in space but very very shallow. Its sequel might change that though.
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tfw star citizen is the perfect game for VR but everything about the engine and animations would make you sick in VR.
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>>342830985
>he doesn't know about Amplitude
They don't use EA just to milk people and then do a runner. Hell, they started their community-driven development thing BEFORE kikestarter and early access were even a thing.
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>>342831604
I have lost the count of how many early "access done right", "t-they are different I-I swear it!" talk I have heard that end up on shit development, these guys may be really competent, but this story just doesn't stick anymore.
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>>342831952
Endless Space, Endless Legend and DotE had pretty good EA stuff. They have votes and shit it's kind of fun. Amplitude and Klei are the only two companies I really trust with EA stuff though.
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>>342831604
I second this, I like Endless Space so I got in EA Endless Legend and wasn't disappointed.
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>>342827417
Space Engine
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>tfw new Escape Velocity never
>still have to order discs by mail
>Nova still costs $30
>Ambrosia gave up and makes iphone apps now
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>>342816569
>Amarr
>Kinetic lock
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>>342830607
Its a series of testing of mechanics.

You can do like one of 3 missions currenlty that give you credits, otherwise its still a very small sandbox to fuck around in, they got the systems for interplanetary travel in right now, they're just working on stability and server side permanency of items.
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>No mention of Freespace.

Yeah no go fuck yourself.
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>>342824832
>Rouge Squadron
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