The most fun MOBA is currently dying. Is this a sign that the genre itself is dying?
DotA isn't dying though
But LoL is fine?
>>342779520
> Dying
Heroes of the storm is just a fun brawl game with blizz characters. Focusing on comp modes ruined the game.
>>342779520
Oversaturation of the market, and casuals who became enraptured by something new are just now jumping onto the new fad that is FPSMOBA.
It is the nature of all things, to burn bright for a time and then fade to obscurity and darkness.
>>342779520
HotS is an ok game. Played 20 hours and was done with it. There's no long term replayability.
>literally cant do shit by youself
>cant even build items as you like
>buying new heroes is grindier than even lol
>fun
>>342779759
No it isn't.
>>342779759
LoL has a minor audience, not significant.
Dota2 is not dying, still earning $
>>342780248
>LoL has a minor audience
You are clearly delusional
>>342780248
I'm a Dota player, but it's really really obvious that LoL has a much bigger audience and community. Check yourself friendo
>>342780406
http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments
riiiight, even HALO got a higher pool prize
lmao
>>342779520
people keep saying its dying, where are the proofs
>>342780127
>3 levels ahead the entire game, crushing them
>1 bad team fight and they're now 1 level head and win the game at 20 minutes
>>342780697
We are talking about audience though.
LoL has more players total
LoL has more players at any given time
LoL streams sit at the top viewed streams %90 of the time
LoL tournaments have much more viewers than DotA2 tournaments
>>342779520
Hmm. Maybe it's not actually the most fun to the average person who isn't braindead? Have you ever considered that?
HotS is assfaggots with everything enjoyable or satisfying sucked out of the formula, I would literally rather watch paint dry than play it
HotS isn't dead though. It has less players than dota and lol but you can still easily find games. Plus blizzard is still shoveling money into it.
>>342781798
>HotS is assfaggots with everything enjoyable or satisfying sucked out of the formula
You got it backwards m8
HOTS is the MOBA genre boiled down to the enjoyable and satisfying parts
You get that nice "sick play" endorphin rush, without the boring stupid shit that plagues other MOBAs
Heck, that's why Overwatch is so successful, it actually further refines the MOBA formula, to the point where it's just an FPS game with MOBA elements, so you can get those "sick play" endorphin rushes even quicker
It even has a "Play of the game" showcase so that everyone can see your cool play
>>342782197
>HOTS is the MOBA genre boiled down to the enjoyable and satisfying parts
>mashing low cooldown, microscopic impact spells in blob teamfights is what's fun about assfaggots
I pity your shit taste
>>342782197
Overwatch nas no moba element besides announcing multikills and MAYBE ultimate skills.you are also fucking delusional/have shit taste şf you think hots is any good
>>342782443
>playing minion-whack-a-mole for 20+ minutes to get enough stat-sticks so that the enemy can't fight back against your numerical advantage is what's fun about assfaggots
Nice memes tho bro
>>342782197
>You get that nice "sick play" endorphin rush, without the boring stupid shit that plagues other MOBAs
>>You get that nice "sick play" endorphin rush
There is literally zero potential for "sick plays" in HotS. The game is so fucking dumbed down and braindead.
You people are insane, it would be entirely possible for there to be an assfaggots where the length and farming aspects are removed but it still has actual deep combat mechanics but HotS is not it. HotS heavily simplified that alongside removing everything else.
>>342782698
>There is literally zero potential for "sick plays" in HotS.
Nice meme bro
>last hitting minions for 15 minutes on "laning phase"
>getting killed by X factor giving your opponent a massive advantage
>almost impossible to turn tables
>one guy stomping because he managed to kill my less skilled team mate
Sure, Ill stick with HotS
>>342782658
The presence or absence of "minion whack a mole" has nothing to do with the fact that HotS's combat somehow manages to be even more dull, forgiving, and generally idiot-proofed than LoL's.
Fuck off, retard. Learn why people are actually criticizing your game.
>>342782829
>no proof
Thanks for proving my point
>>342780848
>losing a team fight with a 3 level advantage
l
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a
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What are the indicators that HotS is dying? I haven't played in a few weeks, it seemed fine to me.
>>342779520
>HotS
>Fun
It's the biggest pile of shit Blizzard has ever created. An achievement considering D3 exists.
>>342780697
That's because Halo waste money, they got less viewers than Street fighter v's first tourney zozzle which only gave 15k to the winner. They only had to put 1 mil then put the other million into development costs
>>342779520
I wish more people would play it but I'm having fun and it gets constant updates, so what is there to talk about?
tfw my dota friends put 100+ hours into hots instead of LoL. only because friends of friends wnated to play together...why not just play together in LoL, sometimes I hate friends that push other friends to play with them even if they dont like it, I cant tell if theyre true friends or fucking drones
>>342782920
Yeah bro, we get it, HOTS sucks because it's not named "Dota 2"
>>342780179
LoL is kind of like WoW right now.
Even when it totally fucks up the community and people are leaving left and right, it still has a level of success and popularity that every other moba can't even dream of reaching.
>>342783220
>only because friends of friends wnated to play together...why not just play together in LoL
Because LoL is fucking garbage. There's no point playing anything with that kind of forced meta unless it's the only game in the genre you play and you just have no point of reference on how terrible of a system it is for a strategy game where you build a team out of 100+ "unique" characters.
>>342783718
because hots has strategy
>>342783321
>oops I got proven wrong, better just start shitposting instead of trying to think of an actual rebuttal
thanks for the show, anon
>>342783825
Who the fuck said that?
Dota players prefer to play HotS on the side rather than LoL because it's the fast paced, loose and arcadey take on the formula instead of some retarded mix that can't decide what it wants to be where it's really simplified and casual yet it forces a meta as if it's a field sport and presents itself as something super hardcore and serious.
>>342783919
But anon, you didn't prove that anon wrong, you merely stated that their criticism is invalid without explaining why.
>>342783919
Bro you're the one using Dota Doublethink here
Nothing will convince you
So yeah, we get it, you don't like HOTS because it's not Dota 2
Dumb Blizzard spent all their money on the movie and Overwatch.
What they should do now is allocate their resources back to HotS and increase character fidelity, increase visual aspects as a whole, and finally start bringing in OW stars such as Winston, Genji and Hanzo into the game.
>>342784157
>being so fucking bad at reading comprehension and so far in denial that you selectively read posts to perpetuate excuses to yourself for playing objectively inferior video games
>>342780406
LoL is the most popular still but I really do think it is dying. A lot of people I knew left it for Hearthstone and a lot of people left again for Overwatch, and combined with the community for the game starting to get fed up with Riot's shit new matchmaking system it may be bleeding players.
As far as innovation and potential goes LoL has been dead since the end of Season 2 though.
>>342783919
Post your Hotslogs
>>342784387
>not a single mention of dota from anyone but you
Thanks for admitting you're retarded
Why even reply, it would have been far less embarrassing for you to just close the thread
>>342784781
Post your rebuttal
>>342784425
Why? HotS is shit they threw together on the shitty SC2 engine.
>>342784925
Rebuttal to what??
>>342784974
Please try actually reading anon, you're making a fool of yourself
>>342784948
It's pretty garbage. I can't believe that the game needs to log every single action that every player takes. It takes longer to reconnect to the game than you've been gone disconnected, and when it finally catches up you need to wait even longer for the 2 minutes you spent reconnecting.
But I have fun with it every now and then. This weekend all the characters are unlocked so it's really fun and exciting. Usually you only ever see the free week heroes and abathur.
I don't like HotS because the only mode that had decent queues was the tryhard mode.
Quick Match had like 7 minute queues and the matches were garbage.
Dota 2 is still the only game that just lets you have fun with shit like custom games and whatnot.
>>342785147
Here I'll save us some time
I rebut you, then you say some OTHER dumb shit that only Dotards say, then we go right back to my original point that you only don't like HOTS because it's not Dota(because I was just trying to save us time by saying that)
>>342784948
Because their brand name and image is on the line.
Knowing Blizzard they will continue to upgrade and refine the game
>>342785391
>It takes longer to reconnect to the game than you've been gone disconnected
It takes longer to reconnect to the game than the game had lasted. It's complete garbage that they never fixed it. One dc on your team could mean having to deal with a bot for at least a third of the game if not half even though the guy tried his best to reconnect.
>>342785784
>if I call him a dota player his valid criticism that has nothing to do with dota magically don't count
ebin
see >>342784813
>if I try to make a shitty rebuttal, you'll keep shoot it down with more rebuttals! until I have none left!
You do realize this is how a debate works, and you're literally admitting you can't win it, right?
Like I said, why even reply
>>342784948
>because this moba is shit they threw together on an RTS engine
Alright?
>>342785985
It's too little too late to fix it now. It's already dead and all but abandoned by the C Team working on it.
>>342786089
>valid criticism
lmao
You used a bunch of buzzwords and memes like "impactful"
Shit that only Dota players say
So here we go
If Dota's abilities are so "impactful," then there's no real strategy to using them, you just hit the button and then you win
>>342785784
>here I'll save us some time
>I'm gonna lose the debate
>>342786225
I don't get this. Why is it abandoned? They're going to keep adding content.
![dawngate-game-logo[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IYNX08f.png "dawngate-game-logo[1].png")
Dawngate died over a year ago ;_;
>>342786225
It's not abandoned, it has 2 Starcraft maps coming, Gul'dan, Samuro and Auriel coming with many more heroes coming every few weeks.
Come back to me when Pitlord stops being a carrot on a stick.
>>342786367
>>342786225
The game director literally said 1 month ago that they have a few million active players and over 100 developers. I don't get this dead game meme.
>>342786328
>if I say "buzzwords" I don't have to respond to anything lol
>everyone knows I'm retarded and I'm effectively admitting I'm wrong but lying to myself helps me sleep at night
see >>342784813
>If Dota's abilities are so "impactful," then there's no real strategy to using them, you just hit the button and then you win
>This glaring proof of fucking astronomical lack of understanding of what you're trying to discuss
It's time to stop posting
High impact, situational spells that reward organization and high reaction time is what creates depth and strategy, weak tickling abilities with tiny CC that let you get away easier with fucking up and reward you less for combining and timing things properly does not
How can anyone be this stupid? Am I getting baited
>>342786458
SHUT UP
IT LIVE INSIDE MY HEART
i iis you king of masks
>>342786458
>the only assfaggots worse than LoL
>people miss it for some reason
>>342786658
Like a parasite
>>342779520
Seemed like it was doing pretty well a little more than a month ago.
>>342786492
Holy shit, they still haven't added pitlord?
Remember when they were putting out 3 or 4 guys at a time? What the hell, it'll have been 2 years since the last guy at this rate.
>>342786921
You mean pre release when they had to grind out heroes to fill up a small roster? They release a hero every 3 weeks now and have been since launch.
>>342786734
It played a lot like when LoL was fun and was the game Riot always wanted to make but never could. Constant fighting all over the map with fun characters that could be built for whatever role you wanted them to play.
>>342786492
Dota 2 doesn't need the gimmick of adding a new hero every month to be relevant.
>>342779832
>fad
>>342786635
>The thing that I said would happen happened
Whoa, what a surprise
>>342787045
I thought pitlord as the carrot on a stick was referring to Dota. Arc Warden did not come out 3 weeks ago.
>>342779520
HotS is fine, nobody gives a fuck if MLG esports fags play it competitively.
All heroes are free this weekend too.
>>342787163
>I predicted that you'd prove why I'm wrong
Are you just on my side at this point?
>>342786921
Need something to motivate the goyims. He's literally held for ransom.
>>342787061
>being this delusional.
>>342787061
Are you retarded? I guess you must be.
>>342786813
>No source showing that there actually are millions of players
>"We have millions of players! Just trust us on that!"
Typical Blizzard jewery. I'm sure WoW still has million* of players too.
>>342787163
>when completely relevant criticism against my point is something that's reflected in a game I don't like, it doesn't count
How old are you?
>>342787371
>>342787414
I'm sorry that nobody takes your casual e-sport seriously. Maybe once HotS has half the depth of Dota 2 people will actually give a shit about it. But that's not likely, can't even make a decent FPS.
>>342786734
The visuals was absolute puking inducing garbage that's all i can remember from it.
>>342779520
>The most fun MOBA
It managed to feel worse to play than LoL.
>>342787568
What the fuck does "relevant" even mean? I never hear anything about ANY moba.
The selling point is being able to play as the Blizzard characters you want. What point are you trying to prove? Dota 2 is better, so what? They just released a character and have more coming.
It's been "dying" ever since it came out according to /v/
But it's far from the truth
>>342788000
The characters are cheaply designed and are nerfed once everybody has impulse-bought them. They can't compare to Dota 2's heroes. Where's HotS's Rubick and Invoker? What skill or knowledge is even required to play?
>>342787469
>"If you criticize Dota 2 then you obviously haven't played it" is a valid criticism
>>342788375
That criticism literally nobody made?
>>342788236
Let's say I agree with you. What does that have to do with the game being "abandoned?" Why do you care that people play it?
>has less viewers than MKX on Twitch
>"Millions of players"
Fucking please.
>>342788587
>2016
>Still using the amount of retards of twitch as a benchmark
Stop
>>342788563
Why do you defend a game that charges $10 for heroes? Are you a Nexon fan or something? This game is everything wrong with the genre, right down to it being completely dumbed down for retards.
It's like asking why would I care that people play Battleborn. I don't, it's just bizarre when people are proud that they do.
>Tfw big group of friends
>tfw like 9 out of 10 friends play dota 2 all the time and we all enjoy it in our ways
>Tfw the 10th friend is Gigantic Autist that only Plays HoTS and will defend that game to death and always talk shit about how much more skillful it is than Dota 2
>Tfw can't even begin to tell him about how much Dota 2 is better in every way because of how much Autism he has
How the fuck do people did with this kind of shit Jesus christ
>>342789439
If you play the game you will unlock everything. The genre is already something dumbed down for retards. And you are just looking to fling shit.
>play solo Q
>it's so fucking shit at times
>start playing with RL friends/ /vg/ at times(they're actually decent)
>have the most vidya-related fun i've had in years
i know this is typical, but still it's great when you're not playing by yourself
>>342789634
Content shouldn't be gated behind a paywall, especially content that changes the gameplay. That's called being P2W, and no amount of grinding will change that. Dota 2's heroes are all free, there's no excuse for Blizzard, a multi-million dollar company, to not give heroes for free. It's pure greed.
>>342789439
The only reason Dota2 gets away with their pricing model is because
A) hard working community members such as myself brainstormed and shared these ideas
B) It's Valve's cash cow for idiots spending money on their hat grinding simulator
We get it bros, you don't like HOTS because it's not Dota 2
Dota 2 does everything right, yes, yes, we get it
>>342790382
The people that play these games, that's you, play these for hours and hours. It's all they do day and night. And then they brag about their hours played as if it's the only thing that matters. If you play the game you will unlock everything.
>>342790465
Maybe if Blizzard didn't shut down their community at every chance they have when expressing creativity for their games like SC2's custom games and Nostalrious, they could make a game as good as Dota 2 too. But they don't, they completely fucked themselves and their fans so now they just eat shit.
>>342786779
>tfw watching my grandma's dog die painfully from heartworms and she informed me of his sickness and general condition a week before
Why are old people allowed to have control over life that isn't theirs?
>>342790636
Maybe if it were a good game they could brag about how skilled they were at the game instead of how they've wasted hours unlocking bullshit people can just pay to have.
>>342790647
But HOTS is better than Dota 2 from the gameplay perspective
In fact every MOBA is
The only way that Dota is better than other MOBAs is the pricing model, which is why it's the only thing that Dota players won't shut up about
>>342789523
What exactly was it that got you into Dota2? I tried a long time ago and it never really clicked for me. I play hots here and there with a few friends and it's fun. Not great, but it's satisfying to have people whisper you after game about how retarded your hero's mechanic is.I mostly play Stitches and Nova.
>>342779759
League is 100% dead.
It barely gets 80k LCS viewers lmao
>>342790592
Okay. So you admit you're shilling an inferior product.
>>342782698
>There is literally zero potential for "sick plays" in HotS.
>>342782920
>>no proof
>Thanks for proving my point
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXAeKsZQL7koKko46kfIXXQ/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/moreHearthstone/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZRwibUYTMSs7Qgq1czlnQA/videos
Here's a few of the more popular channels and some couple hundred videos or so that are those moments back to back.
>>342779520
Its a damn shame HotS didn't do better. If it had been released earlier, we may have seen some actual map variety in the other MOBA games.
>currently dying
HotS was dead on arrival.
>>342790767
By these games, I mean mobas. People that play LoL, for example, play it all day.
And only dotards talk about their game hours because they must stick their heads into every conversation and demand from people answers as to why they aren't playing Dota 2. It's also something you can easily see in Steam. Other games might track it too, I don't fucking know.
I don't play HotS because I only have like 5 heroes unlocked, and you can't just unlock new ones by playing your favorites courtesy of the un-rerollable daily quests.
Sometimes I think about playing a bit, but then I remember 75% of the roster is locked to me and every new hero requires you to play what you might not enjoy over a spread period of 1-2 or more weeks.
Or just pay 10 whole bux for 1 character.
>>342790904
>No items
>No last hitting
>No bounties
>No individual leveling
>Heroes are copy paste with gap closers, stuns, and nukes
>No stats that can be affected
>No turn speed
>No skill
It's shit, and you are delusional.
>>342791523
For what its worth, right now they have all the heroes free to play. If you queue with someone, two wins later you'll be level 5 with them.
>friends are all fans of the genre
>we all played the shit out of hon, league, dota, hots, smite, dawngate, evenstrife in beta
>others cant just acknowledge every game has their own highs and lows
League is a terrible experience for a new player but despite this can still be very fun. Everyone scales well into the late game
Dota is full of autistic ragers who watch too much Arteezy and shit, and of course the foreigners. But it has the most varied builds and most off the wall game breaking hero abilities
Hots is another ""free"" to play game but atleast it throws shit tons of gold at you when you first start off to buy atleast one or two of your chosen heroes. It has no true 'carry' role, and this triggers some dotards because you have to consistently outplay your enemies instead of ricing and winning by virtue of bigger numbers. It has the most varied map pool of any game and some cool as hell objectives other than team deathmatch or deathball pushing.
Hots is far from dead. Even HoN isn't truly dead when just last week we got several games in 1 minute queues. I feel like people just hate on it because it's too 'casual' and a newcomer to the genre
>>342791719
>>No items
>>No last hitting
>>No bounties
>>No individual leveling
>>No turn speed
These are good things.
>>Heroes are copy paste with gap closers, stuns, and nukes
>>No stats that can be affected
>>No skill
These are inaccurate.
>>342790904
Hey this time it took about 100 posts for a MOBA thread to turn into a Dota argument.You're wrong btw
>>342779759
League is in the starting phases of a slow lumbering giant dying.
Big games don't die fast, when it nears it's end I hope it is spectacular though.
>>342791859
>Less mechanics are a good thing
>>342792156
>less bad mechanics are a good thing
FTFY
Nothing wrong with removing mechanics that make the game less enjoyable without actually adding anything positive to it.
>>342791719
Most of those things are positives
>>342792156
If they made a mechanic in DOTA 2 where you had to control each individual leg to walk, would you consider that a good mechanic or a dumb one?
>>342791859
>no turn speed
>a good thing
t. league shitter
might as well delete melee heroes without gapclosers from the game
>>342791719
>no turn speed
>everything must be exactly the same
>>342791719
>No items
>No last hitting
>No bounties
>No individual leveling
>No stats that can be affected
>No turn speed
This is why I prefer HotS
>Heroes are copy paste with gap closers, stuns, and nukes
Eh, to an extent. It used to be way worse because many early heroes had clone abilities, but there has been a lot of changes and heroes feel different and better now.
>No skill
I will agree the learning curve of games like LoL or DOTA is higher, but who gives a shit. Those games are anti-fun.
>>342792424
Or adjust mechanics to compensate like HotS did, retard.
HoTs is like a simple card game. It's fun playing with friends every once in a while, but playing alone is a drag and just no fun.
>>342792156
That's neither inherently true or false. It depends on the mechanic in question.
>>342792378
Obviously it would be a good mechanic because Dota 2 does it and Dota 2 can do no wrong
>>342792307
>proper fighting with impact and depth that rewards skill is a bad mechanic
>>342792378
Meepo already exists.
>>342791719
>>Heroes are copy paste with gap closers, stuns, and nukes
Not true.
All of the heroes are as different from each other as any Dota hero is from its roster.
>>342779520
Moba's are fading in popularity across the board but it has hit DOTA2 the least.
A game can survive a paradigm shift because of its fan base but a genre can't.
Many people like the clearly defined roles and counters along with unique skills that moba's offered but the interface is beyond basic and makes no sense in a modern setting. Remember: The clicking interface was a limitation of the time.
MOBA-like FPS is the new format.
>>342790935
A steep learning curve that's what made it good and its complexity after even the learning curve. Trust me the game is 100% better than hots in every way where hots is not even a moba drop it now and start playing dota 2
you will be a better player overall
>>342792712
>proper fighting with impact and depth that rewards skill
I dunno which game you're describing but it sure as fuck isn't Dota 2 lmao
>>342792804
>J-just play it okay??
>>342792712
>pointless mechanics that clutter up the combat is a good thing
Face it, HotS is the Jeet Kune Do of MOBAs, and DotA is the shitty ol' kung fu with pointless flourishes and waving ballet arms that it was refined from.
>>342791719
>No items
Talents are an alternative to further customizing your hero
>No last hitting
Many maps have objectives centered around last hitting minions. Doing this, or picking up their drops after someone else kills them, gives your team a clear advantage.
>No bounties
You mean the bonus gold you get from killing an enemy on a kill streak? Since there is no gold in the game you are still disproportionately compensated anyway, as higher level enemies give far far higher EXP
>Heroes are copy paste with gap closers, stuns, and nukes
You could say this shit about any fucking moba. Dota 2 has far, far more simplistic click target abilities than HoTS myriad of skillshots
>No stats that can be affected
There are though.
>No turn speed
Of all the things dotards like to brag about turn speed seems really fucking stupid when they don't even have multiple maps, two ultimates on each hero, and have to play the same map EVERY SINGLE GAME. But atleast you have turn speed.
>No skill
have fun with your ricing and click targeting. Sure is skillful gameplay.
>>342790935
People bitch about nova?
>Get sniped
>I'm not dead yet
>Go to attack Nova
>Shes dead already
What's to complain about?
>>342792965
>pointless mechanics that clutter up the combat is a good thing
There's no way this isn't bait
>>342792992
>Talents are an alternative to further customizing your hero
>further
>does the same thing as items except with exponentially fewer possibilities and combinations
lol
>>342793370
>have no gold
>have no items
>have no possibilities
?
>>342793878
>be bad at the game
>blame the game
lol
>>342792378
DOTA QWOP when?
>>342793268
>how can this food be bad? There are so many more ingredients!
>>342782698
>it would be entirely possible for there to be an assfaggots where the length and farming aspects are removed but it still has actual deep combat mechanics but HotS is not it
This. HotS removed some of the shitty elements but they also simplified the combat way too much and it's far too spammy with most spells doing way too little damage.
>>342794830
>all mechanics are automatically too many
>I'm too stupid to handle video games so everything needs to be casual
>>342794195
Tell that to the position 5 supports with no gold
>>342795235
If you're playing position 5 support properly, you'll be filling up on assist gold.
>>342795084
There was a Pallytime video he just uploaded where he got two-shot by a Tracer while on Zagara at full HP.
>>342795348
17:57 in. Got fucking destroyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ew9WcVZbrM
>>342795325
And if your team is losing, you will have nothing.
>>342792804
DOTA players are so delusional that it's actually almost frightening. Literal zombies.
>All these turbonerds hating on HotS and dismissing it as if it's some Candy Crush tier shit
Fucking good, these people need to stay the fuck away from HotS in any case. Like I need more dumbshits rarely ever leaving lane to "get some farm in", or braindead motherfuckers who completely ignore the exp counter and don't know how to properly soak or react to objectives/the enemy getting objectives. Good fucking riddance.
>>342795348
Tracer was incredibly, incredibly OP on release to the point where she had something like an 80% win rate. There was no counter for her, you couldn't even stun, poly or silence her as she could get out of all three freely on a low CD and then get back at full HP doing so.
Coincidentally, the week after Overwatch was released she was nerfed and a bug was fixed.
>>342795603
Fun fact: You can link a video at a particular point using the share button and "Starts at: " instead of typing it out. Example: https://youtu.be/-Ew9WcVZbrM?t=17m57s
>>342787568
Nobody that's even remotely respectable takes any e-sport seriously.
>>342795603
There's a bug with one of Tracer's level 20 talents that lets her basically double the damage of her ult. She's been disabled in competetive play until it's fixed.
>>342779520
>MOBAs
>fun
Pick one.
When people say HOTS is "dying" what do they mean by this? Because the queue times are fine. Is it an Esport thing?
>>342796085
Pallytime mentions the talent too. It's called "Get Stuffed!".
>>342795603
That's a bug.That they're taking fucking forever to fix for SOME fucking reason.
>>342795348
The Tracer was abusing a bug that has been patched.
>>342779520
Err, if anything the game have more players now that we FINALLY have a proped ranked season and the new unranked mode for people to learn drafting.
We have a big patch incoming, new heroes and new (starcraft) maps. The competitive scene is on a bad spot, but man, the fights these guys are doing are insane. Beautiful plays and compositions left and right, with almost every hero being viable thanks to having so many different maps.
>>342791719
oo gettem
>>342796621
How is picking a talent abusing a bug?
>>342791071
>any of that
>"sick play"
>>342796668
Fuck Esports. I'm legitimately glad Blizzard isn't pushing that bullshit so hard with HotS. It's a quality I actually love about it.
>>342779520
>most fun
That's Paragon though.
>>342791030
EU LCS is dead. The casters are shit, the teams are shit, the gameplay is shit. NA is doing fine viewer wise.
>>342796942
It's better than DOTA at least
>dude I pressed my R/I autoattacked because I farmed for 20 minutes lmao
>>342797492
0/10
>>342796998
I like/love eSports because they push the limits of the gameplay mechanics in many ways. I wouldn't learn this much just on my own, or anyone.
>>342779520
One of the main reasons I like HotS so much is that it looks better than every single moba out there. Blizzard's art direction is really nice, and on top, it have the BEST UI of all as well.
>>342797492
Look up Miracle- 9k on Youtube if you want to see actual skillful plays.
>>342786813
I call horseshit. I tried to play like a week ago and had a 18 minute wait.
>>342799170
Really? I just queued for a game and it only took me 150s according to their timer.
>>342799170
I literally got a match the second I pressed the ready button like 3 times these past 2 days. Queue never take longer than 1-2 minutes for me, sometimes is just barely 20 seconds.
>>342799170
I've waited one time over 3 minutes.
>>342779520
It's dying because Blizzard don't know shit about keeping competitive games alive.
Even Hearthstone's "e-sport scene" was an accident, the devs already stated that they never expected it to get to a tournament-level game.
>>342792994
I rotate a lot between lanes, Nova really racks up on damage after she gets her lv7. After 16 I can one-shot champs like jaina with an e (procs follow up)>q>ult. That being said, I don't quite get it myself. All you need to shut down nova is a champ with a damage aura and map awareness, good abathurs shut her down pretty easily. Maybe it's because I keep getting queued against Illidans that like to dash into me thinking their aa shield will save them.
