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Will Mankind Divided be good?
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Will Mankind Divided be good?
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doubt it
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>>342756138
This
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>>342756138
but human revolution was good
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>>342756295
no it wasn't
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their thief and tomb raiders games have been hot shit, so it's entirely reasonable to assume DE:HR was a fluke.

plus i think it's using deNOvo, and we won't have AAAAAAAADAM! BRING ME A PBJ FROM THE CAFETERIA! plus any game with like a fucking $90 preorder option immediately throws off red flags in my mind
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>>342756461
yes it was
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>>342755956
it will be better than HR, u heard it here first, screen cap this
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>>342755956
>>342755956
yeah it will be great but don't expect the hipsters on /v/ to accept it

fact is all of them deny that /v/ loved HR during the leak
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>>342755956
If you enjoyed HR and aren't a massively cynical cunt who hates everything and wants every new game to be the next TORtanic, yes Mankind Divided will be good.
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>>342756514
Thief had massive development and managerial issues and they only did the multiplayer for Tomb Raider.
Also Steve Shellen's a paranoid schizophrenic.
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>>342756514
>their thief and tomb raiders games have been hot shit,

Made by different teams
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>>342755956

are they adding more powerful enemies to counteract how Adam has an even more OP arsenal of powers?
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>>342756770
probably just more of them
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>>342756770
Adam isn't actually as OP as the preview footage has shown, in a lot of the videos they've used a debug menu to give him all the cool stuff right off the bat in Prague.
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>no Sarif
>no Malik
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>>342757210
Sarif is in it.
Malik isn't confirmed.
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>>342756770

I just want some cool stealth shit for no kill runs
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>>342757326
>>Sarif is in it.
>different VA
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>>342757326
A crappy dollar store version of Sarif due to Shellen getting shitcanned. AFAIK Malik is dead according to canon.
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>>342757419
Well it's not Eidos' fault that Stephen Shellen has mental health issues and thinks everyone's out to get him
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All they really need to do is improve upon the last game a little bit. Unfortunately the last game didn't sell that great so I suspect it's going to be full of nonsense.
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>>342756461
>le contrarian /v/irgin xD
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>>342757536
I thought it did well
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>>342755956
I think it will be boring and more of the same as HR

I loved HR, but I'm in no mood to play its overpriced expansion
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>>342757210
Malik is going to be in it just to satisfy you filthy waifufags. They'll say "fuck it" to the choice we made in the first game to save Malik or not and just say she survived some how against impossible odds. Shell show up in some random quest, ahve some gay ass one liner like "kept you waitin', huh?" and such Jensen's dick, and the whole game will revolve around their romance. All this, just to satisfy your waifu pandering desires.

I hope you like it.
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>>342757610
i love it thanks malik is bae
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People actually liked Malik?

She was pretty meh.
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>>342757506
Jesus, I remember that video but I thought it was just a joke. I had no idea he was actually crazy.
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>>342757654
I hope you preordered to get an alternative Malik costume and a 1/5 scale figure of nude Malik.
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>>342757506
He was already like that before they hired him to do DXHR so why not again?
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>>342757743
Go look at his facebook page. He has a video about dark circles under his eyes and it very quickly turns into him just talking about conspiracies.

>>342757814
he's probably quite difficult to work with.

He claims that eidos only offered him $400 for DXMD but I think that figure might be slightly bullshitty.
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>>342756461
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>>342755956
I think it will be better but I really dislike the new characters and the overall weapon/GUI designs. At least from what we've seen so far, especially the guns - they have been designed to look like fucking supersoakers from Wallmart, it seems.

First game had an impeccable atmosphere, the Dubai mission they've showcased just felt like something from Call of Duty (despite having the exact same setup as the Sarif plant mission in HR, plus it's really fucking obvious that Macreedy is the Prichard of the game) and Prague was sort of meh.

I'm worried, that's all.
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>>342755956

How the fuck should I know? the game isn't even out nigga, holy shit
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I wonder why they're holding back the other locations for the game.

We know it starts in Dubai as a tutorial mission, then there's Prague for a bit. And the trailer showed a snowy place and an illuminati meeting table.

Switzerland maybe?
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>>342758657
Probably because the other hubs are shit
They just want to show their best
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The less /v/ talks about it, the more likely it will be.
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that patrolwoman in the early parts of the Prague gameplay demo is young Anna Navarre, right? sounded exactly like her
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>>342759050
probably just generic eastern european

let me check
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>>342759050
That would be fucking retarded if it was
What are the chances of Jenses fucking meeting Anna Navarre as some young cop lady on the street? No way in hell is that her.
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>>342759171
>>342759050
you know, you might be right
https://youtu.be/aUn6cyh9-Ic?t=5m51s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI6VDlaeux8

could just be a completely coincidence though.
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>>342759353
well, it would fit that she started out as someone really low on the ladder and got augments which helped her climb it and reach a position in UNATCO, it works as an easter egg of sorts if they don't ever mention her again in MD

>>342759393
as you've said, they sound really similar, but it may very well be a coincidence
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>>342759393
is the spiky beard fucking necessary?
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>>342760138
yes

>>342759804
I thought Navarre was Russian-Israeli and worked in the IDF?
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>>342760330
In that case, obviously, if it's impossible for her to have joined IDF after the events of MD, then you're right and it's definitely not her.
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>>342756514
different studios
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>>342760605
Or maybe they're retconning things because they can.

Who knows?
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>>342756516
no it wasn't
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>>342761594
>>342756516
>>342756461
>>342756295
human revolution was decent.
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>>342761653
no it wasn't
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>>342761653
prove it
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>>342761857
yes it was
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>>342761889
See, perfectly fine game.

Sure the boss fights were meh, the melee combat is just cutscene takedowns and the xp system favors stealth far too much, but it was an enjoyable experience and somewhat faithful to the original.
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>>342757326
what happens if you killed Sarif in human revolution?
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>>342762216
Modern gamers have low standards so they rate mediocre games high.
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>>342762315
saves don't carry over, the last part of dxhr (which was rather shit) is being retconned a bit.

sarif lives

though you could go down the deep end and suggest that the whole of dxmd is actually a simulation preparing paul denton or some shit but that'd be mgs-tier silly so let's not.
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Alright, so I hear DX:HR is bad. Now, I was introduced to the Deus Ex series through HR, which I am currently playing for first time. i can say this so far:
>interesting art style
>fun guns
>interesting biotech themes
>engaging [more or less] characters
>Inventory system feels out of place
>locations are meh

Now, I realize this is the third game after what I am assuming are more critically acclaimed instalments. So tell me, if you can, what was done wrong or not at all with DX:HR that I am failing to experience?
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>>342762474
>saves don't carry over
What a shame
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>>342762517
The original had more options to go about things and some would say better writing (it was in some areas but not in others).

However, it aged badly if you can't stomach old games. If you can though it's a fantastic game.

Invisible war is garbage though, all the potential it had is squandered becuase of the terrible consolization of the game.

HR is not shit, stop listening to /v/.
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>>342762517
HR has a cover system where you have to stick to walls like a retard, sacrifices melee weapons completely in favour of one-button takedowns because lel consoles, and is all around less complex than the original Deus Ex (did you know you had SKILLS in the original?).

But at the time before it released, a good first 1/5th of the game leaked and literally everyone started jerking themselves off that someone could actually deliver a relatively good Deus Ex experience without fucking up pretty much everything.

So, HR being bad is a meme. It's objectively better than Invisible War, objectively worse than the original, but not in a deal-breaker kind of way. Honestly, having played through both multiple times, I can safely say that HR is pretty good, even as far as being a Deus Ex goes.
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It'll probably be about as good as HR but it looks like it's got crafting and vendor loot among other questionable design decisions.
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>>342755956
Probably, but to me it just looks like a rehash of HR

>Adam is the protagonist again and they had to come up with some contrived excuse as to why he has new crazy augs
>Story is still centered around the transhumanism bullshit that Human Revolution did already
>Still using the same shitty EXP system that emphasizes taking out everyone and hacking everything
>Character animations and lipsync show no signs of improvement 5 years later

I hope they at least learnt their lesson regarding mandatory bossfights
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>>342762517
DX:HR is okay and a lot better than people expected but the first game handled player freedom much better and had a far more interesting plot, environments, and secrets. I'd say the first Deus Ex has more RPG elements while HR shares more with your typical modern FPS.
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>>342762216
>ratings
that game you can't stand has pretty good ratings too my friend :^)
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to be honest, melee combat kinda sucked in dx1

people only scream about it not being in hr because they're starwars nerds who obsess over a lightsaber
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>>342764456
I'll take being able to sneak around and baton tens of people unconscious over pressing one button and the game doing that for me automatically in exchange for one mars bar worth of energy.

Plus melee weapons (and explosives) added the ability to sometimes be able to break shit open through sheer force.
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>>342764772
>left click on tail bone or prod em with the prod
>push button get punch

Yeah, the game lost so much nuance and complexity here.
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>>342764772
I'd rather have a good melee system where the weapon model actually feels like it's in the game world and not just a weird floaty thing
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>>342765006
I don't have to stop or munch on candybars in order to baton more than two guards in the original Deus Ex, I'd say that's a plus. Not to mention that doing something is more engaging than just watching a four seconds cutscene of JC Denton beating the shit out of some poor guy.

>>342765116
Play GMDX then.
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>>342765259
I shouldn't have to mod a game to make it good.
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>>342765532
Tell that to Bethesda.

Not being able to put up with Deus Ex is your own fault though. It was perfectly easy and enjoyable for me to finish Deus Ex around five times, and then once with GMDX since it really balances things and fixes most of the shortcomings of the original.
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>>342764456
>melee combat kind sucked in dx1

in terms of depth, sure, but it was insanely overpowered. maxing out low tech and rolling with the dragon's tooth was fucking stupid.

>>342765259
>doing something is more engaging than just watching a four seconds cutscene

Though you have to admit, watching Adam tap someone on the shoulder and sucker punch them is fucking great. Especially innocent bystanders and secretaries and shit. They gave that punching animation so much impact.

IMO takedowns should use power but your last bar of energy should recharge on its own, so spamming abilities is out of the question without recharging items but you can still use your augs in moderation throughout the level.
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>>342764772
This
I wanted to bust through some crates when I realized there is no melee
Plus the whole thing where they see you for a quarter sec before a takedown and alert everybody even though the fucking takedown is usually just an animation of punching them in the face
or only being able to take down 2 out of a group of 4 people flashbanged without stuffing my face
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>>342766052
the last bar did recharge on its own

2 even in the directors cut version
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>>342766559
Oh, well there you go. I have played HR but not in a very long time.

I was thinking of grabbing the Director's Cut edition since it's only a few bucks right now, and I never played the DLC anyway.
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>>342756770
Considering how OP cloak and stungun were in HR, does it actually matter how OP his other shit is now?

HR wasn't well balanced, but it was still good.
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