Hello /v/, I work at Harebrained Schemes and today I have come here to ask you fellow cyberpunks where we should set the next installment of Shadowrun.
>>342746863
Copy Jagged Alliance 2's combat system for your next game.
>>342746863
Is there one where the games aren't 2 hours long and have gameplay that even Mobile Devices laugh at? I want that game.
>>342746863
Shadowrun: Land of the Britbongs
>>342746863
I dont really care where its set, but the characters of Dragonfall felt 10 times better than the Hong Kong characters.
How about Moskau, that way you can dodge all the SJW pandering bullshit by saying that Russia is still very conservative in the future.
>>342746863
Las Vegas
Dubai
Wyoming
I don't know if I'd do a whole game there, but I always wanted to explore the SOX a bit. Radiation spirits and all that jazz seems like it'd be great, but a trip to the SOX is always sort of a one way ticket.
Also, I still waiting for that goofy looking flight jacket for BT, even though it's the middle of the summer. Have all of them been shipped yet?
The Kingdom of England and Wales.
>>342746863
Japan. Also please don't make one achievement for every single ending, I had to cheat to get all the achievements without doing 4+ runs...
Chicago
Yes I know what goes on in Chicago in Shadowrun
>>342746863
If you really cared you'd ask the shadowrun general on /tg/
Vegas, the New Vegas
>>342748108
Also, maybe a trip into Chicago. I hear it's lovely this time of year.
I just want the hacking to not be tedious garbage. That's literally the only complaint I have with shadowrun
>>342746863
Spain
>>342746863
Neo-Tibet
Neo-Persia
>>342746863
The Renraku Arcology. DO IT FAGGOT
>>342748000
Dubai would be interesting, we loved the environments in Spec Ops!
>>342746863
NeoTokyo
>>342746863
..Mexico?
Mexico City is actually a very similar dystopian place, it should be very easy.
That or the U.K
>>342746863
South America! Blood magic, dude.
>>342748575
what a fucking eyesore
>>342749139
and no surprise it's a government building
>>342749118
>>342749056
>>342748178
>>342747682
These are perfect settings.
>>342746863
Finish the battletech game instead
>>342748890
djinn would probably be running shit in dubai
>>342749279
Isn't there a "right" angle to these buildings? I do not know much about architecture but it does strikes me as the type which causes an optical illusion of some sort if it is seen from some weird angle.
That or the architect was high as fug.
>>342749489
I mean a normal looking building would be stronger but with modern materials even stupid shit like that can be structurally sound
FINISH BATTLETECH ALREADY
WHY DID YOU DELAY NECROPOLIS
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>342749605
I doubt the outside has any bearing on the structural integrity of the whole. It might as well be a facade.
>>342746863
Shadowrun: God save The Queen
Early Shadowrun.
The story is how Brittain cucks itself and lets the corporations fuck them in the ass.
Given it's Shadowrun, we already have UCAS, Europe and Asia shown with the previous installments, I think South America deserve to be next.
That being said? Ethiopia? Or some place in Africa at least. Would love it myself.
Playiung someinth in the Bug City at its worse could be great though.
And last but not least, if you want a set up that is completely different, with probably higher focus on the design of encounter, the Renraku Shutdown offers such a great background.
>>342749489
Is Spain, nothing about it is "right"
>>342749941
Something involving that ghoul nation in Africa could be neat.
They'll probably just use Seattle again if they make another game.
>>342746863
Berlin
>>342750503
That would be fair if they upgraded to a new engine I guess...
>>342746863
Mexico
You can fanservice so many babes.
>>342749727
It is a facade.
If you look close enough you can see the actual shape of the building.
Besides none of those are structural elements.
They do have a weight, but I am sure that the load of the facede is being supported by the inner columns, just as any other buliding, that or just part of the weight of load the facade is being (transladada, I do not the word in English, might be carried or moved through) the other steel elements of the facade to the bottom, which could be possible as I observe that there is a robust bottom.
I.E what you are seeing does not affect the loads the bulding can support, moreover the face is either supported by the regular steel or concrete connections, or just part of it might be supported by itself, but liek just part of it might be doing that. It would not be too difficult with steel cables pulling towards a central column or column like element in the facade.
>>342750759
I should had enabled spellcheck.
>>342750607
Didn't they do that partially in DragonFall?
>>342750215
this belongs in a tsutomu nihei manga
>>342750215
>Big ass columns supporting the tallest building of Oreo town
It is obvious a fat person designed this.
Miami
Expansion to make Hong Kong not as boring at the end.
Game completely trips on its face in the last 25%.
>>342748565
has any game done hacking better than Human Revolution?
>>342746863
set it in a setting that makes the series not a dumbed down linear tablet piece of shit
>>342751713
That's not placing the bar very high.
At least go with the classics and try Uplink..
>>342749941
Morocco
>>342751713
hackers beat
>>342751936
thats a hacking game though
>>342752059
Yes, and it did hacking much better than that ridiculous thing HR was using.
>>342752557
and i can list at least 10 things human revolution did better than uplink
>>342751446
How the fuck is sun and beaches cyberpunk?
>>342753018
Technicolor sun
Glass beach
>>342753018
Cyberpunk is more than rain and smog. You could rip off plots from Burn Notice for easy run ideas.
>>342752756
That BOTH were attempting to do?
I'll wait for the list.
Neo Venice
Underwater Transit system.
Ground level buildings look classical, but high tech skyscrapers sprout from them
Cyberpunk Venetian masks.
Cyberpunk vampires.
>>342746863
1. Another place in US, either seattle again or maybe Denver. Gotta set that baseline for the new trilogy.
2. Egypt or Dubai. Egypt has ruins from the Fourth World, which could be cool. Lots of money flowing through Dubai though.
3. Amazonia. Finish off the important continents.
>>342746863
Somewhere in snowy or somewhere in south america.
I need a relaxing but engaging RPG to play after work. Should I play Dragonfall, Age of Decadence, or Might and Magic?
>>342754894
If you're looking for relaxing then go with dragonfall. AoD is p good but it's not ascomfy
![124164_orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NUtpGrj.jpg "124164_orig[1].jpg")
I think cyberpunk Constantinople might actually be a pretty cool location.
>>342755305
You can't go back to constantinople
Anything would be great as long as it doesn't look like it belongs on a FUCKING CELLPHONE.
Also, listen to more Cyberpunk music to get more
>>342746863
My dad works for Nintendo and he says you're lying.
>>342755305
Its Istanbul you bitch..
Go back to the matrix used in Returns and Dragonfall. The redone matrix in Hong Kong was the worst part of the game. It was terrible. Fire the person whose idea it was to put real time movement/stealth sections in a turn based game.
>>342755831
Right now, sure, Shadowrun takes place in a futuristic setting though, so let's be realistic about this please.
>>342755904
ThisI guess. I mean I didn't really like hacking in dragonfall either, but at least it was tolerable. Real-time dodging is the most fucking frustrating thing ever
>>342755936
yfw it will stay as Istanbul forever and you can do nothing about it.
>>342755936
>let's be realistic about a city that hasn't existed for hundreds of years because sometime in a fictional futuristic setting they could bring it back!
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""realistic"""""""""""""""""""""""""""
come on now
>>342755567
>look like it belongs on a FUCKING CELLPHONE
This, the gameplay feels so restrictive, exploration is based around these small setpieces and the combat is so simplistic; I mean it's decent fun and maybe trying to do better will ruin it, but still.
>>342756120
I'll just have to wait and hope, while you have to live in constant fear of this happening.
Mine sounds way more comfortable.
>>342746863
russia
>>342756038
The system would be just fine if it was turn based.
>>342746863
prove it, faggot!
>>342756305SotA 2063 p64. Constantinople is an independent city-state. During the Euro-Wars (2063) the head of the Alliance for Allah Mullah Sayid Jazrir is assassinated in Istanbul, causing the Alliance to collapse and Turkey itself to split apart- mainly divided along the western ottomans pushing for a secular state and eastern fundamentalists. Istanbul is caught in the middle until it declares independence in 2064 and renames itself.
SotA 2063 p66. Constantinople is a major mercenary hangout for eastern Europe and the Middle Easthome. The mercenary company 10,000 Daggers is based out of the city.http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Turkey
>>342746863
Eastern europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4G1r2u8m9g
>>342746863
in the next game can you let me fuck a cute elf girl ?
pls
it's a trick, Harebrained was supposed to be taking a lengthy break from Shadowrun since they're gonna be putting their Battlemech IP into a computer game
stick it in Mexico where Aztec bloodmages snort a lot of cocaine and then sacrifice humans to the winged serpent, leaving so many beheaded corpses around that it doesn't even phase anybody anymore.
>>342756305
kek at being this despaired.
>implying i live in a constant fear of its gonna change name.
mfw i will enjoy my entire life that its istanbul while you will only waste your life with hoping thats gonna change and feel a constant plebness and sadness.
>>342749941
I wanna see argentina because no games are set in Argentina
>>342752756
lemme list thing 1 thing uplink did that hr dont be a good game damn
Tenochtitlan
Then again it probably looks like the other fuckhueg cities.
>>342757665
are you having a stroke
>>342757354
There is nothing to Argentina.
If anything it is just Hard Mode for games like Democracy 3.
>>342753018
neon
>>342753491
nice try on shifting the goal posts
>gameplay
>story
>graphics
>artstyle
>soundtrack
>immersion
>weapons
>stealth
>characters
>dialogue
>atmosphere
All done better by Human Revolution
T E X A S
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X
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>>342746863
Just make Battletech and make sure its good.
Then you can make another Shadowrun and this time make it like Dragonfall, not like Hong Kong.
Make sure that the Decker companion is at least remotely bearable. Is0bel is the worst character from any game since fucking Rosh from Jedi Academy.
don't mind me
>>342746863
Anywhere but please more waifus next time. HK was awful in that matter.
>>342758370
>2 ghost in the shell games in development
Uhh wanna break them down for me? This is the first time I've heard of such
No doubt they will be trash but I can always hope for at least mediocrity
Istanbul
Dubai
Tokyo
Bangkok
Atlantis
>>342746863
LONDON OR BUST
Hong Kong was superior
>>342758370
> look up some of those upcoming games
> vrshit
> a fucking kickstarter mmo (lol)
wish the faggot making these would at least add genre tags or somehting
>>342755567
>>342756257
maybe a freeroam for once
assuming they could pull it off
>>342759045
> expecting mobile devs to pull such a thing off
shit nigga, HBS can't even pull off basic reactivity in the SR games, there's no way they'll handle anything with actual complexity
also see Necropolis for a good example of their incompetence
Shadowrun: Palestine
>>342746863
sequel to Dragonfall please.
I want to be together with best waifus, i.e. Satan's broken fleshlight and tsundertroll, again.
>>342758196
While that anon did try to shift the goal posts, they were already halfway across the field.
>>342751713
>has any game done hacking better than Human Revolution?
>>342751936
>Uplink
>>342752059
>thats a hacking game though
>>342748890
I think the ME part of Shadowrun lore is pretty weak, I wouldn't go with that.
Personally, I'd prefer something in the UCAS again, make it about Elves or the NAN if you want to keep it more exotic.
also,
if you really are a HBS employee, you should link your thread on >>>/tg/, they're the ones who really get the setting
>>342746863
Make it open no linear like Fallout, Wasteland.
>>342746863
London would be a great setting due to how much of a police state the UK is (even in comparison with other states in SR), basically anything other than a taser is highly illegal and hard to get, it would be interesting to see how a game where you have very limited firepower would play out.
>>342758358
Honestly, I think she was horrible person on purpose. In fact I think all your companions were different levels of shitty.
At least you could roast Is0bel for it during her mission.
In descending order of shittyness
Isobel>Gobbet>power gap>Gaichu>Duncan>Racter
>>342760293
Racter is kind of a retard though in that he thinks he's surpassed the essence limit when he obviously hasn't to anybody who knows anything about how essence loss works.
I loved the decking in Hong Kong.
Come at me fags.
>>342760474
I liked it too.
>>342746863
Do another version of the Shadowrun multiplayer shooter. I know that it wasnt the most shadowrun-esque, but in a few years people will want another arena shooter and it was one of the best on 360.
>>342760456
Yeah he is, I only put him higher than Duncan because of the hissy fit he throws if you don't ask your SIN back.
Selfish prick, he didn't even consider that you had nothing in the legit world.
>>342759448
This. I can't really think of where I'd want the next Shadowrun to be set but I do know that Dragonfall was my favourite game. The city was just so much more interesting. Hong Kong felt empty and I didn't care about the characters at all. That one female junkie in Dragonfall was more interesting than any of the characters in Hong Kong.
>>342747682
>>342748178
>>342758853
>>342753790
>>342756404
These. Now that I think about it, anywhere in Europe would be nice.
Jungle, desert or winter wasteland so Brazil, Africa or Canada
Technomancy
A bigger more connected world and less hub zones
>>342755567
>Cyberpunk music
I want neon-'80s fags to fuck off.
The musical style itself isn't too bad imo, but the way you attach yourselves to everything remotely cyberpunk is getting really fucking annoying.
Cyberpunk isn't exclusively about synth music and retro-futuristic '80s technology.
>>342746863
Fuck the setting. How about not locking me out of companion quests without telling me?
I was very much BEFORE the point where kindly chen explicitly tells me that if I go get Raymond I wouldn't be able to do more side quests. So what the fuck happens? I talk to Gobbet and she mentions wanting to check in on her raft buddies, but tells me fuck it lets go get ramond EVEN THOUGH I HAD NOT CHOSEN TO GO DO THAT MISSION YET and got locked out of her personal quest.
There comes a point where GAMEPLAY>>>>>FUCKING ROLEPLAYING. I don't give a fuck about the main quest all the time. Stop locking out side quests PERIOD. The player should always be able to chose what to do and when.
That is all.
>>342746863
Just focus on unfucking the last 4 years of PGI owning the battletech/mechwarrior license.
Literally no one gives a fuck about shadowrun. You fix mechwarrior, then make a new crimson skies.
>>342746863
Some third world shithole with interesting culture like mexico or brazil
>>342762392
dude neon lights lmaocheck out copper dreams if you want something less generic cyberpunk
>>342762629
How did that happen?
Did you not sit through all of her walls of text lectures?
To be clear I'm not against walls of text on principle, but it was hard to care about her old friends that she herself abandoned.
>>342763132
I read every single piece of all dialogue for all my companions, and had zero issues doing all of their side missions.
HOWEVER
With Gobbet there is some weird as fuck timing where after all her lessons are done. You have to do one more mission and have isobels shit done in order to trigger gobbets need to catch up with her raft buddies. But apparently I had completed too much of the main plot where she acknowledges that raymonds location is found and that her raft buddies can wait. This is fucked up because like I said before, Kindly Chen has given me the ok to fuck around on side quests so I SHOULD be able to finish off gobbet but the game won't let me even though I'm technically still in the "merc" mode of the game (able to do shadowruns still).
Shits just retarded and not sure why gobbet specifically has that programming but none of the other characters do and I was ablw to do their shit at my leisure.
>>342746863
I don't care as long as you code in Otakus.
#lainchan represent
>>342762898
>interesting culture
>Brasil
kek
>>342764361
>>342763132
>>342762629
Minor correction, it's not saving raymond that locks you out of sidequests, it's finding the plastic faced man. I had not activated that quest so I was still in merc mode. Gobbet locking me out of her quest is horseshit.
>>342764361
If it makes you feel better, I got cucked out of the best ending the first time around because Crafty Xu's dialog got broken.
I only played the game again because my autism wouldn't let me quit without getting the save Raymond ending.
>>342762898
anything but this pls
i go to third world shitholes as my job, i can't imagine how people can get excited over that
>>342764754
He means interesting within the setting. In the shadowrun universe, the aztec gods have awakened and taken over south america, making it a super power run by blood mages who mix modern technology with sacrificial magic. So a mexico/brazil setting would be dope as fuck.
>>342762629
Choice and consequences, you faggot casual.
Go play GenderAge - Cisquisition or some tumblerina walkingsimulator
>>342762629
yeah that shit is annoying
If they are going to give incentives for being a completionist, they might as well make it manageable to do everything without looking through guides and shit.
Why make substantial amounts of content easy to miss?
>>342746863
RUSSIA
DUBAI
CAIRO
>>342765246
>I can't read: The post.
>>342746863
Amazonia, Atzlan or something along the lines.
Aztlan all the fucking way.
>>342765413
WAH WAH
>>342762898
Seconding Mexico, since it's canonically ruled by the Aztecs now.
>>342764884
Wait what? I did all of craftys dialogue. How do you save raymond? My poor dad is being flayed alive for eternity lol.
>>342746863
Sudden
Unexplained
Rescesive
Gene
Expression
>>342765685
If I'm not mistaken, there's four flags you have to trigger.
>get all notes from Crafty
>get the tale about the kid who tricked a Yama King from Isobel
>get Raymond's catchphrase from Duncan
>use Raymond's catchphrase on Raymond to make him snap out of it
Fourth one was bullshit if you ask me.
>>342746863
Italy
>>342765829
I think this was a case of the writers not realizing what they're releasing on their brainchild.
>>342766027
I think you have to get all the dreams too.
>>342765235
oh yeah, I remember reading something about that, wonder if they could do justice to it though.
>>342766285
Oh right, that too.
Now that I think about it, that ending was pretty difficult to get, not like in most games where not getting the most optimal ending only happens if you royally fuck up.
>>342766242
No, they knew.
And there's nothing wrong with it.
>>342747682
This. You took the words right out of my mouth, anon.
>>342766027
Ah I see. Well I might redo that part and look for the dialogue option then. I'm pretty sure I hit all those you listed.
>>342762392
You just automatically assume I'm a neon-80's fag. Nice Anon, nice, now I DON'T know what your reaction will be about what I considered Cyberpunk Music but the first thing that comes to mind when I hear Cyberpunk Music is Vangelis and Mind In A Box
>>342753790
>Neo Venice
>Cyber Jews
No mention of Sydney yet? It's surrounded by manastorms which depending on their severity force people to stay inside and seek cover.
>>342747530
Yeah it's called Dragonfall & Hong Kong
>>342767357
>Dragonfall
The game is a improvement in every way over the predecessor, but it isn't as good as people claim, it still sufer from bad gameplay and horrible engine limitations.
>>342746863
I don't care where it's set, but I want to be able to play a neotonous loli elf that's built around stealth.
>>342746863
ur mum's pussy cause there been a bunch of punks in there
>>342746863
Russia, I'm interested to see Racter's homeland
>>342746863
Give us a hermetic mage party member please.
Maybe visit ireland or mage-dominated places.
>>342746863
Hey, could you drop some keys for Hong Kong? Really wanna try it out.
>>342746863
>i work at X
ebin meems aside, i dont care where its set.
they need to make the recruitable crew members (not mercs with no story) mages, street samurai, chi casters, etc. im sick of shooter, shaman, melee, and decker crew members.
>>342768776
Nobody wants to play a Decker as his main.
>>342746863
I think you guys should sell out to Bioware, while ensuring that there is a rider in the contract specifying that they have to employ the devs who made Neverwinter Nights whenever they plan on developing the next Shadowrun game.
>>342769891
Sez you, fagwad.
>>342769891
Sorry but i strongly disagree.
>>342758370
Where does HacX (2.0) belong?
>>342769891
I did decker in Returns and Dragonfall, I have to agree
>>342759448
What's the point if you can't romance them?
>>342746863
>>342746863
Japan: Specifically locations like Neo-Tokyo and Yomi Island
or
Central American state of Aztlan (Mexico): Specifically locations like Tenochtitlan and the Aztechnology HQ
I'd be fine with either, I hope to get both eventually.
>>342746863
I'm pretty sure your bosses said there wouldn't be any more Shadowrun games for a long while. There a lack of communication within the company, there, chummer?
>>342771278
>>342771446
shaddap codemonkeys
all you wanna be fraggers can do is stick your dongles into datajacks as a substsitute for getting layed with hot chicks who dig the muscle or magic Mojo.
You, on the other hand, can only finger your Deck or an iDoll
>>342769891
I just wish they'd add more opportunities for combat decking. Decking's in this weird place where you feel like you have to take a decker to open doors and gain full access on a run, yet when bullets start flying, you don't really have a lot to do (Not that this is bad, it's just all my deckers tend to miss most of their attacks and fail to contribute in any meaningful way in combat.). It'd be nice to try some wireless hacking on certain targets to jam smartguns, cripple cyberware, that sort of thing, rather than just have access to a mark target debuff. It doesn't even have to be every fight or something, just against corps with lots of technical stuff, it'd be good to do some electronic superiority against them.
Same goes for face characters that aren't shamans, not really sure what you'd do with them though. Maybe specific commands that act like minor team member buffs for a single round, like giving a character a strong one round defensive or accuracy bonus. Not really something you do every round, but something unique to a high charisma character.
Also, mages being able to project astrally would be nice too, adding another layer to investigations.
>>342750215
At least it's not the horse cock hotel.I stayed at it once due to work travel, it's OK but way too much style over substance.
>>342747430
do this and get better artists. also make the games better in general, theyre pretty shit compared to xcom.
>>342774305
>implying my iDoll would betray me for the next guy who has the latest bioware
but it's alright, I'm sure your magic wingman can score your next dates if he asks his totem for a few tricks.I have no idea how to banter in shadowrun
>>342746863
Try in the Shadowrun setting! Would make things better then the pseudo-shadowrun shit released so far.
>>342774305
>h3 d03sn1 cyb3r
>>342760664
To be fair, by not getting your SINs back, you're essentially sentencing your little brother to a life he doesn't want to be involved in. I'd imagine being a hitman/drug runner/enforcer/thief/spy is hell on the psyche for a former law man.
>>342774829
You should get DEX, it has what you want and is currently on Sale on Steam.
>>342775247
He seems to take to it well enough by the end of the campaign.
>>342775119
Youngster plz.
The games are fucking deep into the setting of 2050, where they are set.
Hell, one of the original Shadowrun Creators co-authored the Harebrained Games.
SRs Setting has simply changed a bit in the last few decades.
Not everywhere towards the better though.
Mirrorshades are a fucking cancer.
>>342775247
I don't get why you couldn't give Duncan his SIN back and just keep on running. I mean yeah, cutting ties would suck, but he wanted civilian life back
>>342746863
for me the location doesn't really matter as long as the characters and story are as good as dragonfall
>>342746863
Mexico for sure. Aztechnology, mythology and location would make for a really unique setting imo.
If not, then Ireland for racist elf politics
>>342775052
>Magic Wingmen
No need for a Wingmen if you have a 8" vibrating Deltagrade EVO Biocock. I can fire longer bursts with it than with an Ares HVAR and have more stamina than a Barghest.
>>342775875
Aztechnology
ROFL
mythology ROFL
>my sides are out of this fuckin orbit
nah op if ur legit, make some shit about vikings or slavs. shit will sell more than ancient alien mystical buritos do att the tacobell aztec
or some asian shit
>>342775657
>Mirrorshades are a fucking cancer.
Haven't they always been in SR, or am I thinking of CP20XX?
>>342746863
I gotta agree with other Anons that Dragonfall was a lot better, But one thing I would like to see in your games is more flavor stuff, you usually can only interact with an object if theres a purpose. Let us buy sodas at a vending machine or something.
>>342776019
now I'm picturing some late-night Billy Mays style commercial of a guy selling that
>no need for magic and no need for cyber-dicks with this Biocock
>>342746863
Also as a previous anon said, consider asking >>>/tg/ for Ideas because they actually play shadowrun and may have some good ideas for you.
>>342776101
Not to the extend that parts of 4e made the playerbase think.
Everytime i see somebody "when a shot is fired, the run is a failure, kill Joe Donut the underpayed guard and everybody.webm will hunt you down", i get sad because you can't apply Neurostun via TCP/IP
>>342776364
Welcome to HSN in 2070.
>>342776048
Is your brain damaged or something?
>>342776373
>/tg/
Might as well ask leddit.
>>342760456
Ambrose and Racter kind of gave me the impression that the denizens of the Shadowrun universe don't understand the nature of Essence loss as well as we, the players with rulebooks in front of us, do.
>>342776581
Just ignore him.
Nobody wants "Shadowrun: Tracksuits" where running an OP consists of stealing a shipment of vodka to keep your alcohol-powered Cyberarms working longer and everybody kills his teammates after the first payout because "nobody more money should have than Dima, blyad"
>>342775676
The only way to get Duncan's SIN back would be to work with whatsername, and that would mean going directly against Auntie Cheng's orders. There's no way you're going back to her after that.
