Hey /v/ i really need to know, is Zarya a parody or pandering?
On one hand she seems like a tumblirites wet dream, on the other she is surrounded by immeasurable amounts of ass and cleavage from the other female members, i need to know if i should continue maining her!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10586599/r
she's based on a real person
she's op is what she is
>>342745937
>On one hand she seems like a tumblirites wet dream
she is canonically racist against the dindu omnics so she's far less tumblr than you'd imagine
>>342745937
Pandering
If she has no faults, or has no punchline, it's fucking pandering
Literally all they had to do was give her blonde hair and she would have blended in with the crowd, but I swear to fucking god you can pick out the feminist in an entire room with that gawd awful hair color.
>>342746027
Oh god, she's even Russian.
>>342746089
Racist against robots?
>>342746240
well "robotist" sounds stupid and "prejudiced" just seems pretentious
>>342746149
none of the fucking characters have faults
>>342746240
What else would you call it?
>>342746321
well if it's pandering they did a bad job because sjws dont like her.
I'm not convinced she's anything
>k boys, design meeting, we need a new character
>we got not-buff dudes
>we got buff dudes
>we not not-buff ladies
>what do we do now?!
>>342746149
>normie roommate dyes her hair bright cherry red because she likes the colour
>next day we go to the bar and some sperg starts ranting to her about feminism and how toxic it is
>she just stares confusedly and turns to me for help
i bet it was you, you turbospergnot defending feminism but there's
a. a time and place for everything and approaching a random at a bar is not one of them
b. not everyone with dyed hair is some sjw nutcase
>>342746407
Social justice faggots will find an excuse to not like anything.
>>342746425
this
she's a big stronk russian stereotype that they gave pink hair to in order to make her actually fucking look like a girl
>>342745937
I've got a better question:does she dye her pubes pink too?
oh look another overwatch thread
>>342746519
Not all people with dyed hair are SJ W's
But all SJ W'S have dyed hair
She fits the big strong Siberian woman stereotype better than the SJW stereotype.
>>342745937
I think /v/ cares way too much about her.
>>342746149
I like to think of it more as her still trying to catch some girliness despite the fact she's a she-hulk.
>yfw maximum charge
>>342746768
That's a actually not true either
Almost all the characters are parodies of sorts, or at least very tropey.
The only character that isn't is Pharah.
>>342746608
Just like /v/
>>342747025
PIERCED
NIPS
>>342747025
god damn, yes to everything about that picture
>>342746905
Give me one example
>>342747051
>>342747139
it's a man.
>>342745937
Implying she isn't best girl next toMercy
>Strong
>Gave up her personal dreams of weightlifting to defend her homeland against the omnic plague
>Hates omnics with a passion
>Will hug you like a big fuzzy Siberian bear
Whats not to love?
>>342745937
>>342746027
And she was put in because Anita Sarkeesian did a piece on how the game had many body types for males and only the same body type for all women. Blizzard publicly acknowledged it, said they would do their best to please everyone, and then made a 21st character to an even 20 character roster.
That is the literal definition of pandering. Pandering to an audience of which maybe 1% will actually bother to play the game rather than hmph! and "well see now there's a start!" before moving onto another perfectly fine game to harrass.
>>342745937
>american cowboy with a cigar in his mouth at all times that talks about ranching and saddles
>swiss doctor with blonde hair and blue eyes that makes hospital and doctor puns 24/7
>chink climatologist wrapped in a winter suit with an ice gun and ice jokes
>nip yakuza ninjas that speak about honor every other word and summon ki dragons
dude really
every single character is a stereotype
>>342747192
>>342747157
Jonathan Mcintosh
>>342747192
no it isn't
>>342747257
Got a source for that senpai?
>>342745937
she's the biggest middlefinger to SJW's everywhere.
>She looks like a feminazi dyke
>She's the biggest nationalist, and hates robots
>>342747343
Do you have Google access kouhai?
>>342747192
You wish, trapfag
>>342746089
Sounds like tumblr to me though
>>342747192
okay well that man makes a better woman than most women do
>>342745937
she's actually pol and tumblr combined
>>342747464
>omnic-human tensions not an obvious racism allegory
aight
>>342745937
What about neither? Have you gone so far down the rabbit hole that you can't accept the idea that maybe they just put in a non-traditionally feminine woman because it was interesting?
This notion that she's somehow a 'tumblr' character is just absurd. The butch archetype has existed long before tumblr. In what world do you think it makes sense that Blizzard would simultaneously pander to a group and also present a bunch of characters that the same group finds detestable? Are you imagining tumblrinas going "All these girls are just tarted up sex objects blizzard has no sha- OH PINK HAIR? TAKE MY MONEY"
This is some boogeyman tier shit.
>>342746089
Bring racist against genocidal-at-any-moment robots is not SJW-unfriendly.
Look, you Zariafags are free to like her but stop being such bandwagoning, underage fags about it, you can like some things that tumblr likes. Like porn.
>>342746519
Well for example, I have a user at work with bright-ass pink hair that I'm sure she dyes it on a regular basis.
Whether she's an actual feminist or not, there is the stigma that people with pink hair are feminists, so regardless if she is or not, he hair is associates with feminists.
So every time I have to work or talk with her, I have to walk on egg shells, less I accidentally trigger her and take the long trip to HR.
It's like how the LGBT community ruined the fucking rainbow.....
>>342745937
>she seems like a tumblirites wet dream
She's incredibly racist, nationalistic as fuck, and serves in the military. She's basically like the Bizarro world version of a tumblrite.
>>342747257
wrong
anita made her announcement 2 weeks before zarya's reveal
that's not enough time for a full development process, and blizz had replied "we have something along those lines being developed RIGHT NOW, funny enough"
>>342747425
also this
will shit talk zenyatta, genji, and I think she even has a line asking about mccree's arm
>>342747621
>UNDERAGE
you sound 18 though
>genocidal at any moment
yeah man mondatta and his buddhist friends are TOTALLY gonna go genocidal at some random moment. you called it
>>342747671
She's not "incredibly racist", she distrusts androids that you can't trust not to go berserk at any moment. Calm the fuck down and just like who you want to like without being a self-conscious faggot about it.
>>342747813
>she distrusts androids that you can't trust not to go berserk at any moment
did you even play the game
that's not how the lore works at all
>>342747621
She's a Russian nationalist who hates and distrusts the ALGORITHMS OF PEACE that the rest of the world is holding hands with.
>>342747797
It's unknown how well Futurebuddhism works to completely correct that. She's completely right to be wary.
You seem to hold 18 year olds in a lot of esteem.
>>342747976
there's been absolutely no indication whatsoever that they'll go rogue at some random given moment
stop projecting about your age and just admit you didn't fucking play the game and you made a mistake about the lore
just fucking move on, holy hell. i'm sick to death of you faggots trying to 'prove' something on an anonymous messageboard
>>342747669
>there is the stigma that people with pink hair are feminists
>>342747797
>yeah man mondatta and his buddhist friends are TOTALLY gonna go genocidal at some random moment. you called it
Considering Master omnic's can take over any omnic in their immediate vicinity?
Doesn't matter how spiritually mastered he is if he becomes a literal slave to his programming.
>>342747972
She distrusts them yes, which is not unreasonable. All of this is too far-flung from shit that actually triggers SJWs. You guys are trying desperately to paint her as triggering to lefists, when the proof is in the pudding that she isn't. Just like you fucking like, self-conscious betas.
>>342747813
>>342747671
>This backhanded "YOU CAN LIKE WHATEVER STUPID FUCKING DUMB GARBAGE YOU WANT, BUT ADMIT IT'S STUPID FUCKING DUMB GARBAGE" bit added on to the end of all your posts
What are you doing?
>>342748147
oh shit that's totally a reason to distrust every single robot
guess we can't trust humans either since widowmaker got similarly brainwashed
>>342747621
>Bring racist against genocidal-at-any-moment robots is not SJW-unfriendly.
Yet being 'racist' against a genocidal at almost all times religious dogma is considered SJW unfriendly. :^)
>>342748117
So if I walked around with a t-shirt with a rainbow on it, you're tell me people aren't going to think I'm gay?
Sorry that you wasted that gif on such an asinine comment.
>Hates others
>Believes in nationalism
>Military vet from a country that outlaws gays
>Pop pink hair on her and tublrites cant tell the difference
Its hilarious just how blatently steryotypical the game is. But since SJW's dont play games, they dont know the fucking difference. They literally see anything not white and say "WOW HOW PROGRESSIVE!". The game is some of the worst assumptions on race and its great:
>Koreans must be good at startcraft
>Brazilians are all about dancing
>Japanese people are all walking samurai and ninjas
>Mexicans are all about murder because cartel
>Every brit is a cockney jibbering monty python skit
>Indians are all about religeous Vishnu worship
>Australians are wacky mad max croc hunters
Personally, the stereotypes add flavor to the game.
>>342748191
>You guys are trying desperately to paint her as triggering to lefists
maybe some anons here but i'm not
she doesn't line up with SJW mentalities or reasoning though
>>342748109
>there's been absolutely no indication whatsoever that they'll go rogue at some random given moment
You've got it completely backwards. We know there is the potential for random violence and we don't know that their religion completely offsets it. It's literally life or death, forgiveness is not the smart default.
And it's Zariafags trying to prove she's anti-SJWs in order to make their fandom more palatable to other anonymous strangers.
>>342745937
I'm not sure if this is relevant to the question, but I think some of her design choices came about as consequences of others. Like making the strong woman archtype, they wound up making her look too manly with the short hair and almost square jaw. Which is why she has the bubble gum pink hair and nails to 'offset' that with some more traditionally girly colors.
>>342745937
little bit of both.
If you look at her legendary skins, you can see there is a definite sense of tumblr parody going on
>>342748191
>paint her as triggering to leftists
That's an incredibly strange projection. I don't really have a stake in what leftists think of a video game character, but I saw you from the front page keep trying to paint a character in a manipulative way, by implying all Omnics are rightfully treated like wolves in sheep's clothing by the entire in-game world when you're clearly in the wrong.
What in the world made you think I was self-conscious about liking the game?
>>342748297
which characters aren't stereotypes?
>>342747192
So?
>>342747669
Agreed... fucking pink haired feminists...
>>342745937
I feel like she is parody, looking at the recent doping acusations against Russia.
>>342748234
Yeah man, too bad Russia isn't already in a 2nd omnic crisis in the games lore or anything. She's totally unreasonable for distrusting these robots waging war on her country. A war so bad that they're using giant fucking mecha to contain it.
>>342748234
not him, but legit:
>humans take 14+ years to reach fighting age
>omnics are produced by the thousands with hundreds of years of military knowledge daily in a factory
>Humans must eat and breath to survive
>Omnics now want the rights humans have while needing 90% less
>Omnics can work jobs 24/7, outclassing humans
A robot society would destroy humanity.
>>342748287
One is a widely recognized and institutionalized symbol. The other is a hairstyle that you're projecting meaning onto based on a gut feeling.
>>342748363
The point is she doesn't NOT line up with them either, nationalism is okay for all non-US citizens and robots are too separated from current events. Meanwhile she's a non-traditional-beauty-standards-conforming, pink-haired whateverthefuck.
But stop fucking worrying about it and like her if you like her.
>>342748540
Pharah
Arguably Symmetra
>>342748697
>Symmetra
>Literally poo in loo tech support
>>342747813
Her in-game dialog when she's on the same team as Zenyatta, Bastion, and even Genji, who isn't even Omnic, says otherwise.
>>342748552
You're comparing real-world politics to a medieval fantasy game where pink and blue hair are the norm.
>>342748759
The point is that she is trying to forcibly modernize third world nations against their will
>>342746519
Nothing is wrong with NORMAL feminism, it's extremists that think feminism means that women should be above men that is the problem.
>>342748697
actually you kind of have a point. Pharah is pretty neutral.
Symmetra is a little too much hindu shit though. I doubt real world tech support think about bringing order to chaos.
>>342748792
Kind of like a sci-fi game where robots choose to be Buddhists and people shoot dragons
>>342748651
Collages of people posted on 4chan are pretty much the equivalent to hard statistical data.
>>342748652
>But stop fucking worrying about it and like her if you like her.
This projection needs to quit.
>>342748865
go fuck yourself
>>342748476
You're either a newfag or still haven't figured out how anonymous image boards work if you think absolutely every comment is directed at you.
These threads are full of Zariafags constantly trying to remind strangers that she's somehow anti-PC so "we" (muh legion XD) are allowed to like her.
>>342748876
Isn't she an architect
>>342748651
It's not like the rainbow, since day one, become the LGBT symbol
I'm sure they paraded it around until it became the defacto symbol. Fuck, it's no different than getting only your right ear pierced because everyone associated that with being gay.
Bottomline, your hairstyle is a statement--about your fashion, wealth, etc., and if you dye it bright-ass pink, well, I don't know what to tell ya if you can't connect the fucking dots......
>>342749105
>if you think absolutely every comment is directed at you.
The ones directly quoting me, yes.
>These threads are full of Zariafags constantly trying to remind strangers that she's somehow anti-PC so "we" (muh legion XD) are allowed to like her.
The only person who has been pushing that motivation for posting is you. At length. It's seriously in every one of your posts.
And you keep spelling her name wrong. Maybe you're doing it on purpose so you can give off the illusion that you don't actually care and are intimately familiar with the subject matter because you're insecure about liking the game.
>>342749358
>The only person who has been pushing that motivation for posting is you.
Lurk more.
>>342746149
No faults? She is a fucking racist.
That is one of the biggest flaws a character can have.
>>342747257
>And she was put in because Anita Sarkeesian did a piece on how the game had many body types for males and only the same body type for all women.
Zarya had been in development for a ages before Anita started running her mouth, unless you seriously think they could make a character from scratch in 2-3 weeks.
No, Zarya had to have been in development for ages before muh body diversity became a thing, and they just took the chance to go "see? strong woman!" when they revealed her to stave off some criticism.
>>342748865
If they arent in the middle east then feminists can fuck off, normal or extremist. women are already equal here.
>>342748865
There is no such thing as "normal" or "standard" feminism. There are prevailing ideas and controversial ones. It's a massively diverse group of individuals with different beliefs and agendas.
If you think that the concept that "men should be equal to women" constitutes the backbone of "normal feminism" then you're in for a rude awakening. Even 'moderate' feminists stopped having that discussion eons ago.
Really, who doesn't like parody?
>>342749548
>'''''''''reformed'''''''' murderbots
>race
>>342749607
Then how come pic related?
>>342746238
>Tamara Bakhlycheva.
>St. Petersburg
Petersburg is san fran of Russia. It all makes sense now.
>>342746149
>pink hair
>automatic feminist
Kill yourself my man.
>>342749832
This is a joke right?
>>342749521
So you're going to refer to other threads, in the past, that you've participated in? Because in this thread, the one where our conversation is taking place and you seem to be drawing ammo for your statements of "you guys keep posting this," out of 40 unique posters you're the only one who keeps pushing the:
>she's somehow anti-PC so "we" (muh legion XD) are allowed to like her.
And am I wrong about why you misspell her name every single time? Are you insecure about knowing about Overwatch or even liking it? Or are you just unable to spell a five letter name?
>>342749607
I work in law and that's not true at least in my industry.
Oil and gas also based on what my buds have to say.
>>342749832
Equal in rights, dumbass.
Talent is another issue entirely.
>>342745937
Who gives a shit, Zarya is fun to play.
I'm not a shitter who gets triggered by portrails of actual strong and independant womyn.
Get fucked Goobygaturs and SJWs.
>>342749832
>Women suck at acting
Done
>>342749243
So what you're saying is you acknowledge that it isn't a recognized symbol but it MIGHT BECOME ONE therefore she's a FEMINIST and I gotta watch my back because she's obviously one of those tumblrinas out to trample all over my freedom.
Or maybe she's just a regular person that likes the colour pink. I'd further suggest that the fact that you have attitudes and beliefs you're afraid to express around her says a lot more about you than it does about her.
>>342749832
The obvious conclusion is men are better actors?
>>342749832
>searches actor instead of actress
You best be memeing me
>>342750069
You're also the dumbass missing the point.
This whole game is pandering, you idiot.
There's everything, from tomboys, sexy ladies, chubby ladies, sexy men, ugly men, fat man, robots, edgy characters, funny characters and so on.
They made it so almost anybody could find a waifu or husbando in that shit.
>>342750069
>>342750203
>>342750217reread it and think more about the sentence
>>342747025
If any one is curious her Instagram is stefania_model and stefania_raw.
>>342750281
Ah fuck, I just got it. Okay, I'm the dumbass here.
In my defense this reminded me of whenever someone brings up men and women are not equal because there's much more men in STEM.
>>342750069
>>342750203
>>342750217
You guys are joking, right?
>>342750423
Zarya is also red pilled as fuck.
>>342750069
>>342750203
>>342750217
You are all fucking stupid
Do you not know what the word "actress" is?
>>342750352
I dont understand what your getting at?
>>342750582
Actor is a word for males who act.
>>342750569
Then her point is literally invalid?
>>342750361
My god she is so boner introducing.
Pretty as fuck and the body is the right amount of thick.
>>342750005
So you're going to ignore the hundreds of threads of Zaryafags desperately reassuring anonymous strangers that she's actually 4chan-friendly? I think you're being intentionally dense and/or evasive.
And I'm just genuinely tempted to spell it Zaria and it's an honest mistake. Possibly because that old Slavic goddess is spelled that way.
>>342750746
gold star you stupid faggot
>>342749832
*actress. You dumb fuck.
>>342750746
Yes, and those 3 are just as stupid as she is
>>342749832
everyone google search "prince" and count how many men come up before one fucking woman holy shit
hahahaha
>>342750746
Yes that's the gag
It's a subversion because she's a militaristic nationalist that hates the poor oppressed robits.
>>342750750
>Thick
Don't you ever call my waifu thick, you shit!
>>342746519
This.
I agree with the idea of feminism, having equal rights whether that will be in favor or against women (for example, being treated as equals in court).
But I don't agree with the feminists of today, who use feminism as a weapon or an argument when things don't go their way.
>>342748865
So you mean egalitarianism?
>>342747257
Even if this were true, I do like the character. Maybe not that hair color, but still..
>>342745937
I wouldn't say Zarya is pandering, she is racist against omnics.
>>342750945
I use it right. Not like the meme fags.
>>342751034
Yes egalitarianism, with the acknowledgement more work needs to be done for one side to accomplish this than the other.
This isn't complicated, kid.
>>342751175
>One side needs more work than the other so the other is removed from the name entirely
Wow lad.
Literally all they needed to do was to give her better hair and/or make it change with her skin.
>>342751254
>this level of whiny, faggoty, hysterical victimhood
literally kys
>>342751175
So which side is the one that needs more work? At least in the civilized world.
>>342750569
actress is a made up term
it only exists because female actors were so shit and got no awards
>>342751362
You wouldn't join a movement whose initials are NSDAP.
>>342751137
she's pretty and all, but she's not fit. why would you post that in a zarya thread. zaryas body is a result of hard work, not just genetics and a lazy diet.
>>342751175
Or you can call it egalitarianism and you don't have to be hated for the mere name of you ideology.
Feminism is a dirty word to most people now.
>>342749920
>the san fran of Russia
So, what? They only beat up gays a little bit there?
>>342750814
>hundreds of threads
Hyperbole doesn't win you anything. There were probably actually more than hundreds of threads in the weeks after her initial reveal painting her as an SJW-pandering creation.
And there you go again insisting intention and tone with "Zaryafags desperately reassuring anonymous strangers that she's actually 4chan-friendly." A few posts here and there finding it funny that the character Blizzard unveiled to prove they were putting females of various bodytypes in the game, to pander to the SJW crowd that was raising hell, is a racist Russian nationalist is not desperately trying to reassure anyone. That's your interpretation.
If anything, you're the one who is desperately trying to reassure people that she's not a racist, despite her treating all Omnics with the same paranoia.
>>342751401
Overall how the fuck should I know, all I know is women get treated worse in the two industries I'm closely familiar with
>>342751723
Well, you might not get thrown in prison as fast.
No one on /v/ is foolish enough to trust the omnics, right?
>>342750814
>someone makes thread #10004 saying "Zarya is a tumblr pandering blah blah blah"
>a bunch of people respond to the thread by saying "that's dumb, here's why you're wrong:
>"wow look at all these desperate conniving zaryafags!"
>I think you're being intentionally dense and/or evasive.
I don't think you're capable of the intent.
The humans on this board are fools to trust the omnics. They will see.
>>342751618
Because she looks like her?
The one you posted doesn't.
>you will never do naked deadlifts with Zarya
>>342745937
she looked like sjw pandering, but ended up being a robot hating bigot. i love her because we have so much in common.
>>342753337
She only wishes to hug you like big fuzzy Siberian bear.
>>342745937
She's an elaborate troll character.
You know when Blizzard changed Tracer's pose because of a complaint and then ended up making it even more sexy?
It's like that. The character looks SJW but is incredibly racist and nationalistic. Also one of the highest skillcap characters in the game. If you are trash she is trash, and if you are godly she is godly. If SJW pick her on looks they are in for a rude awakening.
>>342753337
>she will never outlift you and fuck you amazonian style while calling you a weak little girl
>>342753958
I will record my suicide.
>>342747673
>The heart of a man still beats inside of me.
WATASHI WA NINGEN DESU!
>>342751618
Just because Stefania doesn't work out to be a fatless corded beef jerky strip, that doesn't mean she doesn't work out and maintain a healthy diet. She just does the right amount of work out and dieting that will maintain a full smooth figure.
Fat = curves, no mater how much you fitfags try to deny it. The key is retaining a healthy amount of fat. Not too much, no too little. Stefania is ideal, because she has the benefits of a flat stomach, without visible abs. And the benefits of tits and ass and hips, without sag cellulite and rolls. You're not going to find a body that well balanced anywhere else. And yes, it takes work.
>>342747221
>>Hates omnics with a passion
This is the best thing about her. Seriously, fuck those things. Torbjörn should have wiped them out for good.
>>342754728
>>342751137
Please tell me there is more to this set and someone has it.
>>342747257
Changing her appearance would be pandering to a crowd that makes up 0.1% of the audience. Butthurt nat socs.
