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How come Bloodstained looks so good while Mighty Number 2 turned
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How come Bloodstained looks so good while Mighty Number 2 turned out awful?
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>>342735523
There are two types of Vidya Artists out there:

The kind who desperately need a publisher/daddy to smack their hands away from the 3.3million dollars before they blow it all on cocaine and vacations

And the kind who know how to make video games.
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ANIME TITS

and

NO ANIME TITS

game isn't out
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>>342736072
If it don't have anime tiddies, don't trust it.
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>>342735523
MEGA
WHERE?
i want to play the demo
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Because Miriam is cute
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>>342735523
I like how she looks like Maki!
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>>342735726
I think there are ones that try constantly and produce good stuff without constantly breaks

and those that make one decent model/image and constantly post what they made on twitter for epic upboats. Then put barely any effort into the rest of the game
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>Hackariot
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IGA is based, that's why. The man didn't go anywhere without his whip while he was the director of Castlevania. A true hero.
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>>342737421
>tfw Iga is the probably type to actually put that whip to use in the bedroom.
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>>342738480
I would too if my wife lookd like Shanoa
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It really doesn't look all that good, 2bh
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>>342738965
But it feels good which is more important
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>>342735523
>How come Bloodstained looks so good
Not really. The demo was garbage. It's MN9 all over again.

>"b-but it's just an alpha demo"
Yeah sure it is.
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>>342735523
Gigantic titties on the first boss
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>>342739045
That's true. But I wish it looked good as well.
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Bloodstained? More like Cumstained.
Am, I rite guise? lmao!
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>>342739261
If you think Bloodstained looks anywhere near as bad as MN9 you need fucking glasses.
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How much do people actually pay to get someone to draw something like in OPs pic? A lot of that guys shit is drawn on commission.
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It's just about how much talent your team has.
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>>342735523
They're both corporate businessmen, but unlike Inafune, Iga actually knows what people liked about the games he helped to create.

Half the battle is knowing what people want from you in the first place. Inafune tried to reinvent the wheel. Iga's just trying to make a good NotCastlevania Castlevania game. So long as he doesn't get too overly ambitious, and all of those fucking stretch goals don't crush the project's budget, he'll do just fine. Here's hoping he knows to release them slowly, over the course of years, like Yacht Club did with Shovel Knight.
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>>342739045
It's probably just the ship's lighting. Most of the other in-engine images we've seen of other zones look much more vibrant.

Given that people have been fairly outspoken about finding the ship drab that will probably be touched up too.
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>>342739261
And here we go again. Here's your (You)

>>342737080
Go back to /g/
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>>342736148

>go to sankaku channel looking for spider girl images
>this one pops up
>spend 10 minutes figuring out where the fuck the spider is supposed to be
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Hopefully they can tighten up the controls. It felt like ass!
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>>342735523
One has a female protag* the other has a male** protag

*This only works because its a japanese dev. A western dev would make the woman look like a dude anyway

**While a robot, Beck is designed to look like a male.
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>>342738965
The graphics are great
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>>342740248
>cheat codes
>adds 150.000$ to fund goal
epic
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>>342740870
Top left hanging from the ceiling.
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>>342741191
>creating and programming various cheats is free and ez
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>>342741191
>Konami code copyright fees

:^)
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>>342741185
I love the style. The post processing shader needs some work imo, makes everything look a bit washed out.
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>>342735523
Demo looked fine. When did MN9 get their demo again?
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Shitstained looks and plays like shit. only reason why people defend it is the massive backers remorse and LE BIG COLORFUL TIDDIES XDD group mementality
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>>342741463
Kinda yeah, most of that shit is stuff thats already in there for the devs to playtest with.
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>>342741637
If you die, do you get raped?
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>>342741869
how much did you spend on mighty number 5.6
>i didn't spend any and i'm not getting paid, honest!
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>>342742018
She feeds you to her sons
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>>342742110
Not into vore, what about the other monsters?
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>>342742071
fuck you
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Bloodstained doesnt look that good. It's just a Metroidvania game, that's literally it. It doesn't have great sprites, the 3D models look Ok but nothing special.
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>>342741869
Sup Inafune, don't you have another kickstarter scam to run?
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>>342739261
I thought it looked fine for a tutorial level.
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>>342742229
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>>342742198
They are just crabs from what I remember from the demo
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>>342742018
Since the game is UE, wouldnt it be pretty easy to make some lewd bad ends for monsters?
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>>342735523
Inafune wanted to make money

Iga wanted to make games.
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>>342742307
>It's just a Metroidvania game

But that's exactly what was promised.
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>>342742710
Yup.
Igarashi didn't promise to revolutionize the industry like the people behind Mighty No. 9 and Start Citizen claimed to do. He was pretty much:
>"I would like to make SOTN-style Castlevania games. Pay me, I get to make a new non-SOTN game and you get to play it. Deal?"
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>>342737214
You're just jealious! I bet you're jealious of Maydrawfag too!
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Who here gonna play a kung fu build?
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>>342741945
Plenty of times, cheat codes are non existent or horribly implemented. Sometimes you have to twist dev's arms to put basic shit in.

t. QA lead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcsxz3awKIQ
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>>342739634
No, it's more like Shitstained.
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>>342744948
So the only thing that's actually slower is attack speed, which is probably tied to weapons again so it's hard to judge at this point. Nice.
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>>342745024
>>342739634
t. people who backed MN9 and not buying Azure Striker Gunvolt,
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>>342744948
I wish people could stop judging things based on how much it looks like another product, this is bullshit.
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>>342735523

The head guy actually wants to make a quality product instead of a Conman playing on peoples desperation and using the money on drugs and parites.
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>>342735523
this nigga can't draw for shit, huh?
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Miriam bobs too much when she runs, I want her shoulders stay stiff and in place in true Castlevania fashion.
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>>342745516
I don't think the intention of the video maker was what you think it was.
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>>342741637
I'd fuck her
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I enjoyed both.
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>>342743301
Maydrawfag is a godsend. This is coming from another drawfag.
Akairiot sux tho.
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>>342735523
see
>>342745376
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>>342735523
Wait a minute, that face looks familiar.
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>>342744948
When I saw the physics in action I instantly though it was spot on, but damn, that's closer than I thought.
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>>342746137
>>342746226

Her tongue isn't sticking out though.
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>>342745727
Whatever is he trying to show, he is clearly comparing the two games.
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Seriously, where did the 4 million go? Did he just hire people with no programming experience, and it took two million dollars in labor just to train them?
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>>342741294
Time to fap (slang for masturbation)
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>>342746354
He's comparing the physics and speed.
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>>342737214
Fuck off fag, his artstyle is bonerific.
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>>342746051
is maydrawfags stuff posted somewhere as a collection or a gallery
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>>342735523
anyone else feel that the demo was too cluncky and slow feeling? also it was way to easy.
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>tfw the only thing going for your game is a character design, who isn't even a good character
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>>342746387
hookers and blow
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>>342746612
>easy demo
Course it was fucking easy, it's a demo, what did you expect?
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>>342746445
I was 12 once too
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>>342735523
I backed this for Miriam.
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>>342746612
Tutorial levels are almost always easy. The speed grew on me, but I bet there will be some shards that speed it up.
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>>342746612
Physics were on par with the ds vanias, that boss was way too easy though.
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>>342746612
I think that was intended, although Iga talked in favor of easy difficulty levels in an interview. Nonetheless, it's certainly possible we're going to have selectable difficulty levels - one is actually outlined in the stretch goals.
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>>342746761

Not him, but I'm expecting a game harder than the piss easy games he's made in the past or it least optional difficulty from the onset.
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>>342746650
>mfw 2/3rds of the other Call designers were better than not Roll
>mfw they all were spared the fate of being used in a kusoge thanks to not Roll winning the polls
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looking at the level design, it really just FEELS castlevania. The hallways, platforms, long walks...

and a couple of walking armors and we're golden.
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>>342747061
>>342746957
>>342746950
>>342746761
I also didnt like how the character felt like they were floating a bit.
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>>342747276
>MOM! I LEARNED THIS FUNNY MEME WORD FROM MY FRIENDS ON 4CHAN! KUSOGE! KUSOGE! XD

neck yourself, bruv
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>>342747562
>being this assblasted he backed a shitty game
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>>342747562
It sure is summer.
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>>342747553
Wasn't Alucard floaty as well? :^)

I don't disagree though, Miriam could certainly be a little bit faster.

>Inb4 le git gud swordbackdashcanceldash is fast enough already :^^)
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>>342747276
>Call D, the one I voted for, spared off this fate
>Call D becomes final boss
I'm okay with this. I actually like the game and thought Call ended up one of the worst characters.
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>>342746578
I have no clue, I see his stuff posted randomly on some boorus and lately he's taken a liking to a /co/created character called golden girl and posted a bunch of art of her in the /aco/ thread.
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>>342735523
She looks nice but what is up with her tattoos?
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>>342747196
So you went into a demo of a tutorial section, made by a developer known for doing easy games, and expected difficulty. And somehow this is anyone's fault but your own?
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>>342735523
>"GOTHIC" as fuck
kek
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>>342748730
More like gothicc am I rite
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>>342735523
IGA is a game designer by trade. He's been a codemonkey since day 1 and knows the ins and outs of game design, so when he HEADS a project, he can take full creative control while having the skills to pull it off.

Inafune was only ever a a character designer and artist, who went on to production. He doesnt have the nitty gritty knowhow on game design. that was usually handled by other people. And then he just kept climbing the Capcom corporate ladder until he became a pencil pusher, which also eroded his original skillset as a character artist. So all thats really left of him is an "ideas guy" who doesnt know how to properly oversee a Videogame's development now that he has 100% control and is his own boss.

also Mighty no 9 is under almost every platform under the sun, which visually, makes the game extremely weak, while IGA is just going for current platforms.
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>>342748902
Nice
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>>342748626
>tattoo
this is my favorite meme
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>>342748371
he goes by like, 46k or something now
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>>342746650
I like the character, I just don't like the grating voice.

More Roll is always a good thing.
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>>342749064
I don't know anything about the game, I just guessed. They look nice whatever they are.
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>>342739261
here's a triple (you) for (you)!
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>>342749758
It's a curse placed on her body that's changing her into stained glass. She's trying to get rid of it.
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>>342747562
alright, just googled that shit and I agree with you now. Can't you just type "bad game" instead >>342747276 ? this is almost as bad and annoying as otakus saying "I'm gomen"
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>>342749960
Oh ok. Thanks. Sounds odd but thanks. I've been keeping on eye on this game and may get it if it looks as good as people say.
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>>342748902
Well met sir
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>>342739261
[u]
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>>342748626
They are crystals that form in her skin that looks like stand glass windows.
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It's simple:

>Open a Kickstarter
>See the great amount of money fans sends to you
>Put all your efforts into money and fuck off the game
>Release the game

Also

>Say that the PS4 version is crossbuy, but very probably PS3 and Vita versions won't be ever release
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>>342735523
Everyone post the clans you joined! Clan Bullwhip reporting in!
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>>342752578
From what Vinny said, depending on what Clan you choose, you will get a different item, weapon or equipment, yes?
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>>342753061
Yes, That's correct. But, if I remember right, this is part of where the Cheat Codes stretchgoal will also come into play. I'm guessing that members would get their clan stuff, then share them out as codes. Back in the day, cheat codes were only distributed in some magazines, or other merchandise. Maybe it is the job of the players to compile them all? Because all cheat codes will work in all copies.
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>>342738965
I think the environments look great. Very pretty visuals. The models themselves would be better off as true 2D sprites or something similar to how Odin Sphere does it maybe, but I think they look pretty good for being 2.5D.

But compare the visuals to Mighty No.9. There's no contest, and MN9 had more money.
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>>342746950
So just like any other first stage Castlevania boss then.
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>>342754074
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>>342755426
Man, they really didn't put any effort in the textures. Even freaking Megaman 2 feels like it has more depth.
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>>342735726
Didn't bloodstained already have backing from some publisher?
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>>342754074
Bloodstained made significantly more than Mighty No. 9 actually, at 5.5 million, with additional funding from Deep Silver.
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>>342746650
>All that emotion in the pictures
>Has a robot voice and speaks in monotone in the retail game
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>>342740248
>ports
isn't that what killed mighty number 9?
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>>342756348
I find the ports retarded anyway

>vita port
>wii U port
The vita is unsupported in the west now and the Wii U is also dead/the NX will be out by the time this releases
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I saw the gameplay. I believe, in Igarashi.
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>>342756348
The PS4 and Xbone can handle UE4 with no problem, Wii U and Vita port is being handled by an entire different studio.
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>>342756001
Both got Deep Silver funding, though. Inafune and some of his company just went and splurged it all on unnecessary stuff like the cartoon pitch. Which may or may not be happening anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmY3jd0z8ho

Worse part is, Red Ash (AKA, Not-Legends-3) was also treated the same way. Despite its kickstarter failing, it was also getting its own TV series and more merchandise. But Deep Silver went and gave them money again, so Red Ash is happening regardless. Deep Silver must hate money, no?

At least Bloodstained is going places. But Deep Silver really needs a better financial manager.
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>>342756348
>>342756576

I'm a little worried about that as well, but at least they are offloading the Wii U port to another studio. I have no idea how it is even supposed to work on that glorified smartphone, though.
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>>342735523
Because the creator put in his heart and soul in it. Inafune did not. Thats why mighty 9 doesnt feel good. Its just an empty shell.
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>>342739261
>Newfags being this desperate for a new Tortanic
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>>342736148
Fucking autistic weeb
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>>342756348
>>342757425
>>342756576
>>342756714
Yep, Armature Studios is handling the Wii-U/Vita port, and in a different engine than UE4. Of course, the Wii-U version might be switched over to the NX eventually. Who knows. But what we know is that these two versions won't be released simultaneously with the main platforms chosen (PC/Mac/Linux/PS4/XBONE). Both will be released on separate dates.
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>>342757885
>Tortanic
When it's kickstarter games, it's people desperate for the next MN9

AAA games=next Tortanic

KS games=Next MN9
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>>342756348
I'm hoping they get the core game ironed out and THEN try to add some extras. If they miss some stretch goals but the game is good who cares
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>>342735523

It's called 'Scope Creep'.

It's when you start a project as your make developing and making progress, you start wanting to add more and more features.

Pretty soon you're over budget and behind schedule. That's usually when producers/management has to intervene and give you a hard deadline which usually results in bug-riddled, unfinished, low quality, shitty products/games.

Look at Tim Schafer and the guys who make Mighty Number 9.

Sure at one point they made decent games but that's when they were being kept on a short leash by management.

Now that they're free to spend the money on whatever they want, they're going to blow it on stupid useless shit.
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>>342758193
I don't remember Broken age being all that shitty or broken. It was mostly /v/ starting a retarded maymay
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https://youtu.be/Pp_Div_JXuA?t=151

Their is a glitch with the physics that lets you spam the fuck out of jump slashes really fast on the boat. Probably due to some weird code with the raising/lowering boat.

You can "store" a ground slash by having the animation canceled. If you do a ground slash but it gets canceled into a jump, and then you hit the jump slash you will hit "twice" when the animation finishes. Do it fast enough and you can get just a stream of hits out.
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>>342735523
I have to know. Is she a succubus, or is that a headdress?
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>>342755741
>[citations needed]
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>>342758091
That's what will happen. They decided to take the Shovel Knight route by opting for a "staggered release". The Core Game and most minor features will be there Day One, Everything else promised (Like Boss Revenge Mode, Classic Mode, etc.) will be released via Post-Launch free updates, not DLC.
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I wanna stain Miriam with my seed.
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>>342758509
Unfortunately it's just a headdress.
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>>342758193
There's nothing about mn9 that grew out of control. It's hardly even at the level of a megaman game let alone the original pitch.

They promised the world and realized that once inti creates left the project that they just couldn't do it.

Like the whole pitch of the original game was based on the EVERY ENEMY IS LIKE A MEGAMAN BOSS WEAPON! which got almost immediately scrapped and buried. The final game isn't even close to what they pitched.
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>>342758509
Headdress. You can exchange it for ribbons and stuff.
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>>342758589
You didn't know this, anon?
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>>342758789
>>342758867
Little disappointing, but probably for the best. Would end up being some special snowflake status or some shit.
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>>342758589
>>342755741
Deep Silver, same as MN9.
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>>342758479
that's pretty cool

>hitting the tits does more damage
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>>342759601
Each piece has a "resistance" to your attacks. Lowest damage taken to highest it's: Tentacles->Teeth->Boobs/inner mouth->head.

Head takes the most damage but you can only hit it for a very brief segment.
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>>342758704
Oh, so this has been confirmed? That's good to know.
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>>342735523

They need to animate Miriam's hair. it looks too stiff in game.
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>>342758193

I meant that Heavy Metal inspired game.

Shit got out of control and they cut off his money.

>>342758837

Okay, then just plain rif-off for the free dosh.
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>>342760052
Well, I can't say it is confirmed until it is stated in the Kickstarter Page, but they have been talking about it. And given the fanforum community, they're been pushing the devs for it once they worded their consideration for it. That said, I wish I am able to choose for a complete version of my backer edition physical copy, rather than a "Day One" version. I want all the updates available in the disk. Because I don't mind waiting more for it, even if I only chose to get the Physical copy.
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>>342758867
>You can exchange it for ribbons and stuff.
Cute
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>>342760563
at least it's being discussed. I'm optimistic that people can learn from MN9's mistakes
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>>342747196
it's a demo for e3. e3 'journalists' are notoriously known for being pathetic at games, then whining and downvoting it for not allowing them to win.

besides, there should be a hard mode in the full version.
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>>342759236
>>342758509
There will be other customization options than pic related. Maybe a Succubus option will appear after all? Like, an item that does change part of her shape to fit the form.

>>342762321
That's part of the discussion. They're all using MN9's example as a way to learn from their mistakes.
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>>342762851
>Elf
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>>342740248
Flat Miriam should've been a stretch goal.
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>>342735523
They raised millions and put100% of it towards a game instead of 10% for a game and the other 90% towards an anime, a documentary, a feature film, cameos in a half dozen other games and unnecessary ports to last gen consoles.
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>>342735523
because you have shit taste, Bloodstained looks awful as well. It just isn't the same degree

It's better than OoE by default because everything isn't tied to MP but that isn't much of an accomplishment
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>>342763563

Hey mang, gotta build HYPE and shill somehow.

People love to get excited about chintzy, real life shit and they're more than happy to throw their money at it.

The game is just a bonus.
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>>342752578
I wish joelfags didn't exist so I could join vinesauce without looking bad
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>>342735523
I had my doubts, but after playing the E3 demo, I am gonna jump on the hype train. Feels fucking great. Just hope the combat will be more like SotN, without so much delay between attacks. That was the only part I didn't really like
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>>342762851
>Elf ears

Time to get cutting.
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>>342763896
Buy lottery tickets instead and then spend the week dreaming about all the bridges you could be burning.
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>>342764642

I don't need the lottery tickets, I've already burned every bridge in my life.

And honestly? My life is a lot simpler, less stressful and I' much happier than I was with friends/grillfriends.

Don't get me wrong, I still fuck chicks but then I block their numbers and keep the sex videos.

Living the Dream
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I wish someone would make a Miriam variant of this picture.
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>>342766860
what would Miriam want to fuck?
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>>342757390
Deep Silver isn't involved in Red Ash. It's being funded by a separate Chinese company called FUZE. Also the anime was funded by a Kickstarter running at the same time.
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>>342767125
You
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>>342756019
One of the more valid complaints for me. Call was an absolute waste.
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>>342746650
sometimes I dream about making a video game and Call is in the game, given an actual chance of personality.
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>>342755696
Is it even texture ? Some of those asset seems to just be colored mesh...
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>>342767125
What wouldn't Miriam want to fuck?

>>342767302
>FUZE
Wow, that's an even worse fate.
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>>342767889
a man can dream
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>>342768026
>colored mesh
That would explain the many slowdowns in the game. Imagine them using extra overlapping objects, just to get a shape down. Worse yet, unnecessary polygons rendered in places a player will never get to see because the game is in a 2D perspective.
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>You didn't back bloodstained
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>>342769115
http://igavania.com/back
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>>342765571
Keep telling your lies kiddo and cry yourself to sleep
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>>342765571
That will come back and bite you in the ass when you're gonna end up at a concentration camp home for old people. Money makes all problems go away.
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>>342755426
>MFW the Retro Hero DLC actually looks even worse in-game
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>>342745809
You can't tell me you wouldn't fuck her. Maybe that's what I do when they find her, I'll fuck her. I'll fuck her RIGHT IN THE PUSSY.
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>>342770669
Good luck finding it.
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I dunno why they didn't just use dracula again for bloodstained. Making a new vampire guy seems kinda dumb. It's not like dracula is owned by konami.
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>>342770854
She's obviously fucking pregnant you retard; someone obviously found it.
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>>342735523
>you backed Mighty No. 9
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>>342741637
>slow ass fuck movement
>bounces off on attack
>fucked hitbox and collision

Goddamn this looks awful. I didn't get to play it but I can't imagine feeling good to play.

That run animation is so terrible.
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>>342771601
>slow ass fuck movement
Just as fast as any other IGAvania
>bounces off on attack
Kick attacks always did that in all IGAvanias
>fucked hitbox and collision
Legitimate point
>Goddamn this looks awful. I didn't get to play it but I can't imagine feeling good to play.
You know there is a torrent around right?
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>>342770869
Gebel not a Vampire, but one of the characters experimented on by a cultist branch of Alchemist. Given his voice actor, he is one of the "Les Enfants Terribles" in the game.

>>342771441
She's not. Those actually her seaman.
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