Let's have a goodnewNX thread
Confirmed facts
>home console (http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/nintendo-nx-is-a-home-console-next-handheld-codename-revealed-report-841144)
>Zelda BotW as launch title ('different visuals than Wii U')
>'new type of mario' avaliableHoly fuck we know so damn little
>VERY likely/ partically confirmed stuff
Pikmin 4 launch title
Animal crossing (mobile app supposed to crossover with something)
Dragon Quest XIJust Dance
Stronger than Wii U (see: Zelda point)
>Some stuff stated by companies, but not confirmed
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/05/nintendo-optimistic-about-removing-region-lock-for-next-console/
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/15/ubisoft-says-nintendo-nx-will-recapture-wii-players-nintendo-addressing-family-market/
'moving away from Wii Brand'
>Rumours
https://www.twitter.com/fabiandoehla/status/74479428038066585 (3rd party devs excited)
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/06/20/rumour-nintendo-nx-as-powerful-as-ps4-neo-and-announcement-due-september/
Memory cards and Catridges from Zelda trademarks
http://www.techradar.com/sg/news/gaming/nintendo-nx-release-date-news-and-rumors-1289401
>what will make you buy/not buy an NX?
Rev up those speculations boysPlease don't reply to shitposters
Monster hunter generations NX is literally all I want
The rest are just bonuses to me
what I'm wondering if this "new and exciting way to play games" is actually a concept that hasn't been done before or if it's really nothing special and just there for convenience or something.
I do believe the NX will streamline things quite a bit for Nintendo though. That can only be a good thing too
>>342723832
It is more like a non-answer. It might mean something though
And what do you mean by streamline?
>>342723370
>'new type of mario' avaliable
Holy shit, they just said it was a hypothetical about what they could be doing, not that they're literally going to rewrite the formula on Mario.
It could just be another linear-style Galaxy/3D World-esque romp and that would be perfectly fine, because that's where the genre's strengths are.
>>342723370
the "different visuals from Wii U" was told by mynintendonews AKA not trustworthy
As a third party dev (wont say what company I work for or what I'm working on, I don't like NDA leaks) and a longtime Nintendo fan, the NX is definitely going to interest hardcore Nintendo fans who care about quality first party games.
However, it will be a huge pain in the ass as a third party developer to justify making NX games. It will be using the same Power Architecture instruction set as Wii U, Wii, and GameCube to keep full backwards compatibility support as Nintendo is know for. While this is a good thing as a consumer, it absolutely fucks over third party developers who wish to port games from PS4, Xbox One, or PC to NX. Porting games from Power requires a lot more effort to effectively port games to x86 platforms, I'm pretty sure you guys seen how much effort went into GameCube and Wii emulation as it took over a decade to get them where they are today and that's with a bunch of documentation and help from the open source community. In addition to requiring more effort to port, there's hardly any incentive to create third party exclusives or port third party games to NX when data from the last few generations have proven that third party games sell worse on Nintendo's platforms than on Sony or Microsoft's platforms. There's a few exceptions here and there but the majority of people mainly buy a Nintendo console to play first party Nintendo exclusives.
If you liked Wii U, you will like NX. If you were expecting something totally different, guess again.
>Confirmed: more powerful than the wii u but still a generation behind the other consoles
>>342724067
Wasn't it a direct quote though?
>>342724124
Okay, I'll bite. What is the general consensus about the NX? Is it gimmicky? How many third parties are on board? Will it be compatible with the GameCube too?
I really hope they actually do something with My Nintendo.
So far it's been a horrible replacement for Club Nintendo.
>>342724493
What do you want to see?
>>342724603
More incentives to use the thing. Better rewards and connectivity with games. Something like that. Anything.
what do think about the resident evil 7 cartrige patent ? is this a hint that its coming for the NX ?
>>342724830
Far-fetched, but pausible
If NX uses cartridges they are setting themselves up for failure. We live in a digital age, cartridges make no sense. They cost much more than discs to produce and are slower than modern SSDs.
>>342725158
Don't they have a faster load time or something?
Can someone post stats?
>>342724039
streamline as in unify both Nintendo console and handheld under the same roof. Because I think that was Iwata's vision
>>342725403
They have faster load times than discs. But now that we have solid state drives, cartridges are about the same (if they use high quality parts which is expensive as fuck) or will be multiple times slower if they decide to use cheap parts.
Cartridges make no sense today except for like handhelds where you can't fit a SSD inside a handheld.
>>342725158
It's not the early 2000's anymore kiddo. A carriage could essentially be a tiny ssd in a slot able case.
Faster and superior to discs
>>342725740
So cartridges are better than discs, but not as good as ssd's...and that's why they should use discs?
I'm not following
>>342725740
Not doubting you but I would like to see a source
>>342725960
I'm not saying they should use discs, I'm saying that using cartridges in a home console is retarded in today's market. Nintendo would have to pay more to make cartridges than just using discs.
I literally only care about its specs. If it's not powerful by console standards then I'm done with nintendo.
>>342726163
I only care about games. What good is power if there's nothing good to play?
>>342723370
so when the fuck is the most likely time they will reveal this? any events coming up?
>>342725987
Google Sata III SSD speeds and then compare them to SD cards or Nintendo's proprietary cartridges.
>>342726303
Reveal to be planned in fall
>>342725809
Faster than discs sure. Superior? No.
You can buy a 50 pack of 50GB blu ray discs for $20 while a single cartridge of similar capacity would cost more than that.
>>342726110
What are you saying they should use?
Are we even sure if cartridge production is still all that expensive today?
>>342726268
lucky for you nintendo has had neither games nor power for multiple generations now.
>>342723370
We know it'll have droughts just as bad as Wii U if not worse.
>>342726654
Discs and digital distribution would be the objectively best option.
Flash memory is more expensive than creating discs. Why do you think SSDs and SD cards are more expensive than 100 pack DVDs or Blurays?
>>342726645
So you're saying cartridges are superior?
>>342726654
More than discs for certain
>>342726874
Superior at performance, terrible at mass production cost.
>>342726862
Faster. Bigger storage space. Centralized instead of on multiple discs.
Sounds like cartridges are superior in everything but production price
>>342726957
How much is the price hike though?
~5$?
>>342724124
>It will be using the same Power Architecture instruction set as Wii U, Wii, and GameCube to keep full backwards compatibility support as Nintendo is know for
Don't listen to this fucking idiot.
>Nintendo is retarded, they have to pay $3 per cartridge instead of $1 per disc
The horror
>>342727057
if they drop Power architecture, they will lose a 10+ years worth of native backwards compatibility.
Unless they opt for software emulation but that always ends badly. Limited support and bugs out the ass.
>>342726862
>>342726645
is it that inconceivable that Nintendo just eats up the difference in cost? or that they could save the lost money back with other things, such as releasing the NX without a disc drive?
Because I don't think Nintendo can't make this work if they really wanted to
>>342723370
>Memory cards and Catridges from Zelda trademarks
wait, so we have to buy Memory Cards again?
The fuck Nintendo, why not internal storage for games? Memory cards were always a hassle and not even good. Yes, it lets you give your buddy your own savefile, but its not the 90's anymore - SD Cards and USB Sticks exist. Also if one memory card gets corrupted or gets lost, tought shit!
Please dont let this happen, please dont
>>342723370
there`s no way to have a (good) NX thread right now though because nintendo aren`t leaky af and so nothing whatsoever is actually known about what the NX actually is as yet
>>342727323
Nintendo could definitely do it but it would make no sense at all from a business perspective. You're spending more money on production just for the sake of having cartridges with no real advantages over hard drives.
>>342723370
Expect a reveal in October.
>>342726268
dont respond to bait
>>342727334
Aren't memory cards the one the 3ds uses as games? As in the card contains the game
Correct me if I'm wrong
>>342727460
I`m not even sure theyre going to reveal the NX before christmas season this year so as not to cannibalize (whatever sales they can still get out of) the WiiU/3ds
>>342727152
that shit adds up, my dog. If you sell 1 million copies, cartridges will cost 3 million, as opposed to just 1 million for discs. That's 2 million extra.
>>342727334
nah, no worries. Nintendo has storage figured out pretty well right now. SD cards for 3DS and external HDD's + USB drives for Wii U. The patent supposedly proving carts for NX is inclonclusive anyway. It doesn't hold all that much value
Have they given any hints of what the gimmick will be?
>>342727620
Well Memory Cards is the term used for cartridges that store your savedata from console games like PS1, PS2, GameCube, etc.
If they say "Memory Cards", they mean that, not the SD cards they used for games.
and this is worrying.
>>342727049
Discs costs pennies to produce at a mass scale.
>>342723370
>VERY likely/ partically confirmed stuff
>Stronger than Wii U
Why the hell wouldn't it be? this isn't news at all. Why do people keep thinking that it's possible for the NX to be the same/less poweful than Wii U?
>>342724124
>It will be using the same Power Architecture instruction set as Wii U, Wii, and GameCube to keep full backwards compatibility support as Nintendo is know for
fakepost confirmed
>>342727965
But it is under the Zelda trademark. Basically the media they use to distribute games
So your worries are unfounded.
>>342727904
>>342728064
ahh, thank you. Thats a load of my mind.
Its kinda scary how little we know though. the console has been in development for several years now and is going to be released in like 10 months. Normaly leaks would be everywhere
>>342728061
how is it fake? Nintendo has been rehashing the same CPU architecture in their home consoles for over a decade now.
>>342727984
And catridges cost...?
>>342728169
dollars, how much though depends on production method and other factors like buying chips from other companies.
>>342728158
'Leaks' happen because companies choose to reveal them early.
Anyways, all should be revealed in fall
>>342727992
Probably because of Reggie's comments on it that specs aren't important.
>>342728320
that comment really gets blown out of proportion on both sides. It's just PR talk
>>342723370
Don't forget Retro Studios unannounced Wii U title that's most likely been moved to the NX.
>>342728320
Reggie might be NoA ceo But unlike Iwata he isn't a programmer or some shit.
He is a good marketeer but a horrible boss.
>>342723370
Haven't they been repeating there will be zero difference between wiiu/nx Zelda?
>>342723370
>Not a hybrid console
They fucked up. That was the only innovative and gamechanging thing they could have done. Nintendo is over in the console space.
If BotW launched with other games will those other game's sales be cannibalized by BotW's success?
>>342728659
Twilight Princess came out as a Wii launch title, go look at the sales of those other launch games.
>>342728320
>Probably because of Reggie's comments on it that specs aren't important.
He didn't say that, he said "It's not about specs" I don't know how this statement alone sends peoples hopes crashing.
>>342728631
Nothing is confirmed
The NX is a home console, but it is cross platform with the MH (handheld). Maybe only one or two exclusives for each
>nvidia smartphone cpu in a console
Nintendo finally did it, they managed to become braindead.
>>342728631
>>Not a hybrid console
What does that even mean?
Calling it now, NX will just be a "upgraded" Wii U. Just like PS4 Neo will be a PS4 with a better GPU and overclocked CPU.
>>342728659
depends: it it launches with MK9 and Pikmin 4: not realy. Nintendo games are somewhat timeless and will still sell decent 5 years after release.
If it launches with CoD 18 and Assasins Creed 32, chances are it will.
YEY, cartridges are coming BACK!
>>342728631
Calm down, Anon
>>342728896
>the MH (handheld)
Are you this out of the loop? The MH deal was debunked right away. Basically it was just an hypothetical example made up by investors. They do this shit al the time.
That said, I do think NX will (also) be a handheld.
>>342727234
They already have a far exaggerated backwards compatibility. You have to boot into another fucking OS to play Wii games. GameCube can't be (legally) done on the WiiU, and there's next to no chance of them ever adding GC games to the digital shop because emulation is too hard, which makes no sense if the whole Nintendo being gods of back compat meme were anything more than just a meme.
A tiny shitty handful of n64/Snes/GBA games is not anything to be excited about. They fooled me before.
>>342729069
>battery dies inside cartridge
>lose all your save data
>tfw BotW golden cartridges cause another stampede
>>342729131
Shouldn't the NX have internal storage?
>>342729121
Who says they have to emulate Gamecube games ? You can natively play Gamecube games on Wii U through homebrew.
>>342729108
S-sorry
Anyways the NX is a home console, the controller is a handheld
All solved
no hype for this op.
just wait till they announce something so you don't get your hypes up for nothing. it could be horrendous
>>342729267
To get them working in Wiiu mode they'd have to build custom emulators still, if I'm not mistaken. And nothing new is being added Wii mode ever.
>>342729069
yeah well, IF they do come back don't expect them to be that big. gameboy size is the best you can hope for, even then they'll probably be tiny anyway
>>342729224
I don't see why not, when previous consoles did.
That Anon was probably shitposting though.
>>342729131
>insert cartridge into console
>cartridge's battery recharges
>>342728983
That's what it will probably be, yep.
But the gamepad will be optional and will be sold separately, like the wiimote was for the Wii U.
I mean, they can't be that stupid to add another gimmick.
>>342729363
There's no emulators involved, once you're in Wii mode the system acts exactly like as a Wii should since it uses the SAME FUCKING CPU INSTRUCTION SET as Wii and Gamecube.
Can I use the Wii U gamepad on BOTW for NX? I have the custom Zelda one that came with Wind Waker and find it pretty comfy for WWHD and TPHD.
>>342729382
hopin for at least genesis size
I'd like a source on the WiiU/NX Zeldas being different thing. Nintendo has maintained they'll be the exact same.
Pokemon crossover from mobile.
You collect your pokemons IRL with your mobile and you (can) do the rest of the stuff on the console.
>>342729572
ask kimishima
>>342729572
GameCube controller worked on Wii, and Wiimote worked on Wii U. Based on that, it could be possible.
>>342729667
They said the game will be the same, just with graphical differences. It's safe to assume it's the standard fare when making a cross gen port.
Would you be willing to pay ~3$ more and have less third party games for cartridges?
Since the same handful of titles have been propping Nintendo consoles up for so long why don't they just sell software?
>>342729572
I hope it carries over. it'd be nice if the gimmick didn't stop with one failed console
>>342729524
Right. But they're never going to add more shit to the Wii modes store. And the machine itself can't accept physical GameCube discs. The whole "booting into wiimode" is fucking stupid in the first place. They could have made proper backwards compatiblity if weren't so goddamn lazy, forcing customers to have a completely different set of fucking controllers and being unable to use the gamepad, which was the whole draw of the system at release.
>>342729797
No. Cartridges have no place in home consoles anymore other than for physical collectors.
>>342729667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYiRDXwXgJ0#t=3m25s
>Mario 3D platformer like galaxy NOT 3D world
>Pikmin 4
>Zelda BOTW
>Splatoon 2
>Random JRPG exclusive
Literally all they have to do to make me buy one. If its super gimmicky like the Wii then fuck that but if its like a touch pad on the controller then that's fine.
>>342730015
>iJustine
I swear if NX has region lock, Nintendo is way out of the loop.
>>342729850
I've enjoyed the Wii U so far and still have Dong Freeze and Wonderful 101 as well as other games to get through.
I thought I was gonna hate the gamepad and thought it looked like the most clumsy, unplayable shit ever, but for item management and such it really is perfect for Zelda games.
>>342730018
Here you go.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/zelda-breath-of-the-wild-on-wii-u-and-nx-will-be-t/1100-6440876/
I just want Spla2n to be a thing.
Whatever NX is, it's going to be Nintendo's Dreamcast. Past mistakes will haunt them in the present and they will lose all their third party support to Sony.
>>342730430
lol
>>342730317
Thanks m8. Someone already linked a video above, too, so I deleted my post.
>>342730337
and gyro, I'd hate to go back to analogs
>>342728268
Source?
>>342730168
You bet it will be region locked.
>>342730659
Read the Op
>>342730579
Gyro controls on splatoon are AWESOMEwhen you get used to them, before that they're shit
I hope Itagaki makes a new game that has a normal development cycle and is has Nintendo's magical QA and optimisation put into it. Not a TPS like Devil's third but an action game like Ninja Gaiden Black.
I bought a Wii U specifically for Zelda, and now the definitive version won't even be for it.
Yes I'm getting and NX, damn you Nintendo
>>342730706
Well... nothing confirmed yet. We're talking about Nintendo, Anon.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again.
>>342730785
Isn't he just making mobile games now?
PIkmin 4 launch title would do it.
>>342728631
The technology isn't there yet for a good and affordable hybrid.
Pretty sure they'll do that the gen afterwards
>>342730630
>>342723608
This, 1 billion time, a MH alone would make buy the console.
>>342723370
All I need is a metroid 2016 / 2017 that looks like prime 1 meets d44m, and I'll buy the system just for that.
And for a new F-Zero, preferably like GX.
What games do you boys want?
What games do you guys expect?
>want
Starfox02
W102
Bayo 3
>expect
Some stellar DK game
Above average Marios
Another Zelda besides BoTW
New smash, Mario kart, mario party (now with NO cars!)
Splat2n (now with octlings)
Some ports and hd remasters
Some third party games and indies
A poll for Nintendo fans.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10585158
>>342731732
Would you be okay if Star Fox 02 was an expansion of 0?
Like it's the same game but with twice the levels, content, and story so it's pretty much the first game and a sequel rolled up in one.
>no Koei-Tecmo news
OP, get your info relevant.
Just hoping for an upgraded Hyrule Warriors Legends at the bare minimum.
>>342731965
>There are people on /v/ who where 10-14 years old when the Wii/PS3 came out
>>342728631
We don't know anything about the NX, but I remember Iwata said that it was complicated to make games for the 3DS and Wii U at the same time. A home console and handled wich share the same games will be great.
>>342723370
>'new type of mario' avaliable
this isnt confirmed either. they were thinking about a new type of mario but didnt announce any plans and certainly didnt mention the NX
literally all I want is a handheld/console hybrid so I can play MH andPokemon on both console and handheld. Some days I won't be home and some days I don't want to be looking at a tiny screen
>>342731732
want metroid
>>342732646
If Iwata is implying that the homeconsole and handheld will share the hardware architecture, chances are the NX will be using a ARM CPU which means it will be no powerful than a modern Smartphone.
>>342732042
Yes
Just replace the gyrocopters with on rails
>>342730850
Wii U will be the first console not to have an exclusive zelda. goddamn that console is a worse embarrassing mess than the gamecube
>>342732262
Source please. I'll add it in
There's the Beyond Good and Evil 2 NX exclusive rumor Destructoid posted a few months ago.
>>342733013
Not him
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/04/koei_tecmo_confirms_that_it_has_nintendo_nx_software_in_development
>>342732948
let's not forget that undisputable timeless masterpiece of a mario game for the wii u. you know the one, i hope
>>342726860
no we dont
>>342733109
Which holds no weight. It didnt sell well initially so why woukd jewbisoft likit it more on a niche console?
>>342730920
He opened a new stuidio in vancouver, and made his own game engine called the 'Real Ultimate Ninja Engine'. His company made some mobile games but on his Facebook he said that he was working on something.
I love the handheld/console hybrid idea.
If I can play some Breath of the Wild on the go, I'm sold and getting it at launch.I'll miss the 3D though. I thought I would hate it but it's pretty comfy. But hopefully the 3DS has a few more years of shelf life.
>>342727915
the gimimck will be good games
I'll buy one for Zelda alone. I think a lot of other people also will.
Why does Nintendo use PowerPC architecture anyway?
>>342733150
new super luigi u?
>>342733285
>niche console
after this E3 everyone wants an NX
>>342733792
luigi is not mario
>>342733606
They like quiet, efficient machines.
>>342733846
bayonetta 2?
>>342733285
How can an unreleased unnamed console be niche?
>>342733160
yeah we do because HD development costs force them to space out releases more and they sure as hell can't count on third parties to fill in the gaps
>>342733915
not mario
>>342733606
Their first party developers are used to the instruction set, they achieve native backwards compatibility support throughout their home consoles (Wii can play Gamecube games, Wii U can play Wii games), and in some cases Power architecture is more optimized than x86.
Anyone thinking they'll just name it the NX?
I think they addressed it as such so much as of late, changing the man would be pretty difficult. I also dont really trust them in this department. I know it wont be a Wii thing, but they can get close.
>>342734046
which one is mario
>>342733865
You mean inefficient, archaic and weak CPUs that exactly the same design as 15 years ago.
No research spent on improving the cpu core at all.
>>342733408
>Liking the 3D gimmick
???
>>342734130
mario
>>342723370
I'm 30 years old. My first ever console was the NES- it's the one system that opened the door of gaming for me. Unfortunately, I never owned any other Nintendo console (except a Game Boy color) - I was just about to buy a Wii U just so I can play all the old classics from NES, SNES, N64 , but then I heard the NX was coming out and I decided to wait. Does anyone know if there will be a virtual console option on the NX? If so it would be killer.
>>342734117
NX is a just a codename just like Wii was called Revolution and Gamecube was called Dolphin.
>>342734117
giving a console a codename or working name before they reveal the actual name is not uncommon otherwise right now you would be playing on your Dolphin or Revolution
>>342734184
>Liking the 1080p gimmick
>Liking the 60fps gimmick
>Liking the color tv gimmick
>Liking the stereo sound gimmick
what I would like to see is a new Kid Icarus and Metroid game on the NX - had so much fun playing those back in the day.
>>342734246
mario party 10?
>>342733795
>>342733969
Nintendo consoles have been niche since the N64. They sold their soul to popularize the Wii so I guess you have a point.
>>342734469
yes
that was amazing. it''ll go down in history
>>342734404
3D is uncomfortable to look at for extended periods of time, especially when you have to be at a precise angle. Also, hardly any games had decent 3D, it's just a huge gimmick.
Nobody I know actually uses the 3D anymore.
>>342734404
>implying 3D is anywhere close to as important as those examples
>implying 3D is something future generations want to build on
>implying people actually like the 3D gimmick and don't just turn it off for better battery life
>>342728167
>to keep full backwards compatibility support
even the wii dropped gamecube support into its lifetime. The Wii U doesn't support it at all.
>>342724603
>>342724786
I really liked the whole Deluxe Digital Promotion thing they had with the Wii U. Buy something on the eShop and get money back for it. Every $50 you spend you get a $5 credit (I think). Used that to buy VLR for dirt cheap.
>>342734641
Why did they even drop GC support? I mean, there's the obvious reason of the lack of GC ports, but both systems could easily work around that.
>>342734404
>move head an inch while using any of those things
>nothing happens
>move head or machine away from perfect distance using 3D
>black bars and blurry corners ensue
3D was a meme, it did nothing but make the 3DS hardware expensive and drain battery life
>>342734802
cheaper
>>342733452
Pretty much this, assuming the NX version stands out as the clearly superior Zelda.
Otherwise, I'll probably finally get around to buying a Wii U and wait until NX gets a decent library.
>>342734641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGsh_zipXFA
>>342727653
> as not to cannibalize (whatever sales they can still get out of) the WiiU/3ds
there's literally no games coming out for Wii U during the holiday season. What possible sales could they expect?
>>342731732
Don't want that abortion of Star Fox that miyamoto shat out.
Would love those platinum games and another Retro donkey kong.
>>342734957
>how to break even on a dead system
is what it should be called but I guess thats too obfuscating
>>342734184
Like I said, I thought I'd hate it and leave it off most of the time, but it was fun running around in Kokiri forest having the shiny shit coming at you and blades of grass and broken rock pieces..
Got much better on the New 3DS though and by the time MM3D rolled around and you could use the camera control.
And 3D for Kirby Triple Deluxe and Robobot was pretty enjoyable.
I feel that future Monster Hunter title being released in March might be a coincidence, but they're only expecting it to sell 2 million, not 4 million like the past two games.
>>342734250
it's practically guaranteed, so hold off your purchase
>>342734898
How? In what way is it cheaper?
>>342735169
Eh, I used it for cutscenes in KH3D, but that's about it
>>342734938
>NX gets a decent library.
You mean like everyone waited for the Wii U to get a decent library? Mr.bodyisready is still spewing the same garbage he was for the Wii U and you don't even hesitate? Hardware is less than a secondary concern
for Nintendo as well as third party developers. I'd be surprised and obviously wrong if they make it work but my money wont go to a clearly defunct company.
>>342735249
making things with less stuff in it usually cost less
>>342735401
It's just a bit of software, it would be worth it.
>>342735401
Although actually, I guess the optical drive would need to be different, right?
>>342735249
The hardware requirements needed to read a Gamecube disk would make production costs for Wii/Wii U consoles higher. It's why they didn't bother with it for Wii U, and why late lifecycle Wii consoles are cheaper but not backwards compatible.
>>342734641
Wii minis still supported GC games software wise, you just couldn't play them because it lacked Gamecube ports.
>>342735682
Except that the Wii U drive can read Gamecube games, but the OS won't let you play them. You can get around that with Homebrew.
>>342735682
Well isn't that a convenient excuse in hindsight?
"We fucked up making this disc, guess we're off the hook for making it work!"
>>342735891
Wiiu don't have GC ports for mem card and Controller.
>>342735682
The Wii U can natively read and play GC discs, it just needs a workaround to get it functional.
>>342735167
>break even by playing games from a dead system on an even deader one
>>342723370
>different visuals than Wii U
I like how they used "different" rather than "improved". It makes you think.
>>342735986
Use this adapter and use homebrew software to emulate a GC memory card to save the data to a SD card.
>>342736098
The sad thing here is the GC has better games than the Wii U ever will.
>>342735891
It's the opposite, you nut. Wii mode can play GC games but the disc drive can't read GC mini discs.
>>342723370
any new or even a rumor about DS and 3DS cartridges/wii U discs compatibility with the nx? like I will be able to keep playing xenoblade/splatoon and kid icarus/mh4u on the nx right?
>>342735986
>NMM and usb GCN adapter
hurr
>>342736196
that's wrong but they're still both shit
>>342728719
that's different. everyone was buying rabbids and zombie shit. they had a different demographic than zelda. wii had a solid launch pandering to all the grandmas and grandsons that got a wii for xmas
>>342736196
The Wii U still has a good wrangle of them despite being a big flop.
>>342736164
Or use emulation on a computer and hook it straight to a home theater instead of trying to piece together broken dreams.
>>342723370
>rumour-nintendo-nx-as-powerful-as-ps4-neo-and-announcement-due-september/
>>342736164
or just use nintendont and a classic controller like a normal person
>>342736303
I'm wrong but they're both shit? Deal.
>>342736240
It can read GC mini discs though, the Wii and GC use identical disc reading techniques https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMeXMlDtaGE
There's a software check in Wii Mode where if it detects a GC disc, it will give you an error. This was done on Nintendo on purpose, not because the drive doesn't support it.
>>342736316
Zelda will be the killer app. Whether or not it eats into other game sales depends entirely on the desperation of the early adopters and the quality of the games.
>>342736253
honestly, the may very well ditch Wii U compatibility because in a sense, it would give the console more value.
That said, I'm pretty confident that the most notable Wii U titles will make it to NX, maybe even with a save file transfer option if you have the Wii U version
So no one actually believes that Nintendo willingly chose a March release period, right? Everyone knows they delayed an original fall release.
>>342736534
>I'm pretty confident that the most notable Wii U titles will make it to NX
All 3 or 4 of them. Also, what do you base this confidence on?
>>342736534
with the rumors of multiple ports, I'm guessing that the NX is not going to be BC.
>>342736541
are you talking about zelda being delayed or releasing the NX? i don't remember the nx ever being announced for the fall
>>342736541
seems likely yeah. But they sure must think that it's worth missing those Christmas sales so it must be worth it for them in the end
>>342736534
>BotW being released on both the Wii U and NX
>BotW lost GamePad-exclusive features that were originally planned for it
>BotW will reportedly feature graphical improvements on NX
I think it's a safe bet to say that the NX isn't backwards compatible.
>>342736834
it wasn't ever announced, yeah, but I find it highly suspect that Nintendo would chose to release in March instead of getting things ready for a holiday season. On top of that, it has broken the usual Nintendo cycle of revealing a console a year before it releases.
>>342736534
>honestly, the may very well ditch Wii U compatibility because in a sense, it would give the console more value.
No. To get value they just need to actually BUY A FUCKING NEW CPU CORE FROM IBM.
The new CPU core can be backwards compatible, they usually are.
Successor CPU cores tend to already be backwards compatible.
You don't need to recycle the old core to keep compatibility.
That's just Nintendo being a super jew.
>>342736910
I just wonder what caused them to push it back in the first place.
>>342737057
pretty sure they've done it lots of times before
>>342736534
and the 3ds? I pretty much sold my old ds and buy the 3ds at launch because I could still play all my ds games on it, now my library of ds/3ds games has doubled, and if the nx doesn't have compatibility with them by the I decide it worth buying it, whatever console comes after the nx would be close to launch
>>342737152
Nintendo are kings of proprietary bridge burning.
>>342737284
Nintendo always releases consoles in the holiday season. They've done it for 4 generations in a row.
>>342737471
i mean about announcing it a year before
>>342737152
I guess so, but in this particular case it would be different if the NX actually used carts and ditched the disc drive anyway
>>342737327
can really be all sorts of things. maybe they're waiting for a new machine part. maybe they think NX needs to launch with Zelda to gain momentum. I also heard that they're trying to secure a deal for a game but it's turning out difficult. That was probably just a shitpost though
What would Nintendo have to do to make the NX successful to the mass consumer audience?
Just copy PS4 but have free online and Nintendo games?
Either NX will be PowerPC or BotW is being made for two different architectures.
NX being PowerPC seems most plausible.
If NX fails to deliver, anyone else expect Nintendo to stick to handhelds only or go mobile?Maybe even go third party like Sega?
>>342737526
They announced the Ultra64, Dolphin, Revolution, and Project Cafe before their reveals with a bit of info. All these projects had about a year after their initial reveal (as-in being given the final name) before release.
NX has dropped all the usual Nintendo antics. It's less than a year out and we still don't know a damn thing about it.
>>342737629
>if NX actually used carts
As if Nintendo couldn't compete enough, you want them to R&D cartridges that were costly to manufacture and design?
>>342737761
The mass consumer audience can't be persuaded. They view Nintendo as a whole as "kiddy bullshit". The dudebros and latinos who buy the PS4 for CoD and Battlefield are gonna keep playing on Xbone or PS4 and nothing's gonna stop them.
>>342737763
Aonuma already said he felt bad for his team since they were "essentially making a game for two platforms".
If that doesn't basically confirm the NX has new architecture, I don't know what will.
>>342737971
>Implying it's not going to be a proprietary SD card
>>342737761
>Just copy PS4 but have free online and Nintendo games?
That would be a good start. But it won't be enough.
>>342738090
The real problem is a vicious circle:
Nintendo fans don't like to buy software that isn't from Nintendo, so the 3rd party will mostly stay away. And when the 3rd party stay away and go to rival systems, the mass consumers follow the other systems.
To actually break the cycle is going to be complicated.
>>342737971
Nintendo knows a thing or two about carts. Maybe they can make a miracle happen. I don't know shit about the current situation but it totally is a thing I could see them doing. They are nuts enough to pull a stunt like that
>>342738191
>Proprietary SD card
>Last system to do so was the Vita
>That killed the Vita
It's like you want Nintendo to die
>>342723370
NX is going to be a failure like the Wii U because by the time it's coming out, the new Xbox and Playstation consoles will be coming soon, leaving the NX in the dust.
>>342738191
Because the Vita was such a good example of prop carts?
Nintendo should collaborate with more third party developers
>>342738331
>>342738402
The Vita died because of overpriced SD storage and a lack of system selling games, the game cards themselves were fine.
>>342738232
>Nintendo fans don't like to buy software that isn't from Nintendo
I don't think that's necessarily true. Resident Evil, Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, and even something like Rayman goes to show there is interest in Third-Party titles. But I think a lot of the NX's audience doesn't really overlap with a ton of the system-sellers on PS4 and Xbone.
The issue is that game development is so expensive nowadays that devs would rather make one massive game for 3 platforms rather than 3 smaller games for individual platforms.
>>342737962
they're deliberately keeping everything a secret because they want the NX reveal to hit us like a tsunami with tons of great games straight out the door. all their studios are making games for it because they're not making wii u games.
>>342738368
No way Scorpio will be ready before E3 next year. PS4 Neo I can see, but the Scorpio is still a ways off.
>>342737763
I don't think it'd cause such a huge delay if it was still PowerPC.
>>342738402
>>342738331
yeah thats why the vita died, not because of the shit games
>>342738556
I know, but goddamn am I sick of waiting.
>>342738660
just a few more months. im so excited
>reading interview some site did with Miyamoto
>seems to imply in the interview that NX doesn't have a gimmick because "a Wii U focused Zelda would've had to implement the gamepad, but this is a game you can really just get in to"
>mfw
>>342738482
>But I think a lot of the NX's audience doesn't really overlap with a ton of the system-sellers on PS4 and Xbone.
That's what starts the cycle and makes the 3rd party leave the system.
I can guarantee you they wouldn't leave the Nintendo console if their games sold millions on them, no matter the development costs.
>>342738660
Considering that nintedo could keep Zelda name out of leakers thats possible
>>342738771
>but this is a game you can really just get in to"
NX'S GIMMICK CONFIRMED TO BE REAL VR
GET HYPEjk, VR is shit
