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Remember when this cancerous broken shit that counters everything wasn't in every game ?
I do.
Good times.
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remember when you weren't such a little bitch?

i dont.
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I wonder how the design meeting went

>guys what if we put a paladin bubble in an FPS
>no way that'd be too strong
>you're fired
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>>342721116
But she's nothing at close range. Just flank her with a Reaper or McCree and move on with life.
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>>342721265

>...but it only lasts 2 seconds
>Oh shit welcome back on board
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I blow her up with pharah all the time
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>>342721116
>counters everything

But she doesn't. Reaper and McCree for close range, Pharah, Widow, Soldier 76 for long range.

Don't shoot her shields you scrub.
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All that needs to happen is that people need to be told more explicitly that you shouldn't fucking shoot her shield. At the moment, only (most) Zarya players know that.
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>>342721484
that doesn't matter when she does 180 damage UNCHARGED in the time her bubble lasts

A tank shouldn't be able to 1v1 literally every character in the game

She has exactly 0 counters in a game supposedly balanced around counterpicking.
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>>342721492
Sorry, I can't hear you over the fun I'm having

OGON PO GOTOVNOSTI
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>>342721639
wow it's like blizzard are fucking retards who don't know how to make maps or something

roadhog can do the same thing by the way with his chain, pop out from behind wall, chain, walk back during the delay, chain pulls you to wall, fall, nothing you can do about it other than hope he misses
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>>342721602
Zarya says thanks for the free 100 charge she got from your ulti, and apologizes you didn't get any kill. She's gonna ult and oneshot 4 people now.
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>>342721632

I guess if the person is standing right in front of her, not moving, and not shooting. Yes, she can totally do 180 damage uncharge.

The barrier can only take up to 50 damage before it pops, and even if she's doing more damage, as long as you're not just standing like a jackass, it's a pain in the dick to aim.
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>>342721632

If a Zarya can keep her beam locked on to you for that long you're fucking trash, plus she barely has any range unless you're shit at dodging her energy balls too.
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>>342721265
>She can shield herself and her allies
>hitting the shield makes her stronger
>she also has auto regenerating health to a degree
>main weapon is a goku beam. She is super saiyan at full charge

They really need to make a skin for her where her hair turns in saiyan hair at >90%
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>>342721828

Hire this fucking man Blizzard.
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>>342721773
>it's Blizzards fault you can't git gud
wew lad
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>>342721789
if you can't keep your mouse on someone for 2 seconds you're fucking trash
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>>342721784

You're a fucking moron. The barrier has 200 health, and so long as it as at least 1 hp it absorbs all damage done to it.

So a single shot of 1000 damage is completely negated by the shield.
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>>342721784
it takes 200 and it gives her 50% charge if you pop it and you'll fucking die if you do that

Is your advice to shoot it or not shoot it?
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>>342721963
Everything but the bit about the hair is already in the game. Her beam also gets much wider at full charge and the secondary fire blast radius is also much wider.
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>don't shoot her bubble
>now you can easily kill the tank with the lowest health in the game

gg 2 ez no re
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>>342722112

Tell that to the other 5 players on my team.
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>>342721116
Are you one of the retards who shoot at her shield?
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>>342722008

>tfw caffeine ridden Genjis show up
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>>342722112
even with 0 charge she wins a dps race with almost the entire roster
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>>342721116
She doesn't counter everything. Her damage is only good at fairly close ranges with high charge. Bubbles last a ridiculously short amount of time as well, to the point where it becomes very easy to kill her in the times in between bubbling.

She also needs an aggressive team to be really viable as well.
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>>342722232
No.
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>>342721116
>playing Zarya with a competent team

feels fuckin good man
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>>342722078

Personally, when I see it go up, I stop shooting, move around so she has to try and follow me with it, and then continue shooting once the shield is down.

I'm still not seeing how getting hit by an uncharged/low charged beam is any worse or more broken than Reinhardt's hammer or Roadhog's gun. It's got slightly longer effective range, but that's about it.
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>>342722402
>competent
>zarya getting four golds

Sorry to break it to you but the enemy team was fuck awful.
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>>342721776
Buy how? I didn't ult her shields...
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>>342722402
>playing Zarya with such low objective time
Objectively playing her wrong. It should be at least 3 times that, console babby.
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>>342722232
only if you're a retard who stands still
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TELL ME ABOUT ROADHOG! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?!
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>>342722572
more like you're bad and can't track for shit
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>>342722402

>Good Zarya team

You mean a fuck awful enemy team. She gets blown up so hard if all six members know what they're doing.
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>>342722004
It all makes sense now, you made the thread to post her didn't you?
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>>342721632
>A tank shouldn't be able to 1v1 l

>a tank shouldn't be a tank
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Slavic bear-mama skin when?
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Winston is a godawful tank. He's a godawful everything.
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>>342722669
You're fucking dumb
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>>342722232
>0 charge
>left click does 75dps and has to be kept on the target
>right click does 46 damage
you can't out damage anyone with this, just maybe keep them away if they're already hurt
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>>342722004
now post the one where you can see the pink pubes
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>>342722739

Literally anything would be better than what she has now.
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>>342722763

All he is good for is killing shit widows and stalling overtime.
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>>342722804
zarya never has 0 charge for one

I love how trash zarya players always have to theorycraft why she's not bullshit. It's like widow saying "just don't go in the sniping area" or mercy saying "it's fine to charge ult in 40 seconds because usually you only get 1 man rez"
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I see zarya in every game now and she's fucking dumb to kill.
>hook her as roadhog
>her odd pearshaped hitbox means I will never instagib her, and she can shield and waddle off
>play reaper
>once again, PEARSHAPED HITBOX = bad to headshot
I have no idea how to counter her except trying to kill her a mile away as pharah
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>>342722565

>Playing her wrong if you're fucking the enemy team so hard that you're spawn camping them so they can't even get on the objective

No it is you who is the console babby.
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>>342722973
You do realize that the charge meter ticks down, right? Not to mention if she dies, or you're at the start of the match, you will definitely have zero charge. And theres times when you can't even use her short ranged beam, cause going out would be suicide.
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>>342722565
It was a 3 minute match of King's Row, we steamrolled
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>Every single character is apparently overpowered according to /v/

Doesnt that mean the game is really balanced? Think about it.
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>>342722591
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>>342722763
he's the most picked tank hero in competitive play though
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>>342721116
Don't shoot her when shield is up. Don't stand next to a full charge Zarya. You people do realize she has a visual cue that tells you when she is above 50 right? Pick pharah or anyone with long range and never get touched by her.
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>>342723108
You do realize it pops instantly and you can put it on other people and it clears CC and it's basically impossible to not be at at least 40% unless you're actually dead right?

>>342723161
the only actually OP characters are Zarya and Widow (widow due to having no downsides that a sniper should, including her sniper rifle turning into a fucking assault rifle without even needing a weapon switch animation)

Apparently torbjorn and symmetra are actually OP only on console because people can't turn fast enough to shoot turrets before they die or something gay like that but consoles don't matter so w/e
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>>342721116
>Playing Overwatch

There was your first mistake.
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>>342722157
no YOU tell it your team. A shitty team is a shitty team and you all go down together. Fuck you.
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>>342723319
>the only actually OP characters are Zarya and Widow

Yeah anon except I hear that every day from everyone on other charaters. Theres constant "Mei is OP Roadhog is OP Genji is OP Bastion is OP Mccree is OP" so no your opinion doesn't carry any weight. If anything this just solidifies that the balance is secured by making every character really good hard counters to each other.
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>>342721116
Really just choose her as a courtesy pick to allow pharah and genjis to get easy ultimates. Other than that she's barely picked over Reinhardt. Her ultimate is good but it's stupid how so many people can escape it with no effort.
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>>342721116
shes so ugly no one wanted to play as her for months until they realized shes OP
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>>342723505

McCree was OP but they nerfed him

Roadhog is in a weird spot where he can be OP because his hook is so fucked up the way the made it but against good teams that know how to farm him for ult charge he's trash

mei, genji and bastion all have hard direct counters so even if they were OP you can coutnerpick them
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>>342721632
She also requires perfect aim and is fairly weak without her bubble. Get good.
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>>342721632
>She has exactly 0 counters in a game

Who is Reaper?

>shoot her
>she turns shield on
>stop shooting her
>kill her when shield runs out

wow.

She also has no mobility skills so it's easy to get away from her for a lot of heroes, also means she can't handle ranged harass too well.
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She's getting a nerf to her barrier charge, stop crying
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>>342723813
>thinking you'll live long enough for her shield to run out

nice mem
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>>342723871
>Shift
Not even him, but it's basic Reaper gameplay to press shift and fuck off whenever you're noticed really.
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>>342722973
>never has 0 charge
to a degree, you're right, but the post I referred to specifically stated that she can out damage anyone even at 0 charge, which is wrong.
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>>342723856
[citation needed]
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>>342723927
and she'll just have the shield off cooldown when you come back

zarya doesn't have a counter, the game is balanced around counterpicking

It's not just that she's strong it's that she's strong and doesn't have anyone who can shut her out.

Like look at genji, he has at least 3 direct counters
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>>342724074
>and she'll just have the shield off cooldown when you come back
That assumes she doesn't engage somebody else in the meantime.
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>>342724074
see >>342721602
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>>342723871
>nice mem

Her DPS is shit without accumulated damage.

Seriously you faggots complain about a different hero every day, it just shows how shit you are at the game in general, even when it's as casual as fucking Overwatch.

Same kind of faggots who still complain about Bastion.
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>>342721265
Paladin bubble doesn't burst after 200 damage.
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>>342724203
>i don't know the difference between a counter and a slightly favorable matchup
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>>342721773
>Blizzard puts pitfalls on maps.
>OMFG YOU CAN'T DESIGN SHIT BLIZZARD.
You're trash.
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>trying to kill Lucio as Zarya

I usually just pop the Ult to kill the little monkey shit
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>>342724305
you're retarded, never comment on balance again
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>>342724276
This isn't a MOBA, there aren't hard counters. That's as good as it gets.
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>>342724273
If a paladin bubble burst at half their health but doubled their damage paladins would be the most disgustingly broken class in the history of WoW
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>OH NO
>SHE PUT HER SHIELD UP
>THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO

What is this shit? It doesn't last long, can barely take any damage and the worst that can happen is her pissy damage gets slightly less pissy. She still can't out dps most good offense or defense heroes at full charge let alone half charge.

Holy shit, this is the same shit with reinhardt, they're not fucking immortal.
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>>342724372
>, there aren't hard counters

Yes there are, blizzard has also stated the game is balanced around counterpicking. Go look up them telling that to all the people complaining about bastion on twitter
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>>342724453
>She still can't out dps most good offense or defense heroes at full charge
Hilarious.
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She's strong so what?
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>>342723319
To be on 40% for like what? Five seconds? The weapon cools off remarkably fast. Unless you're already pushing and close enough to actively use it, that 40% will not still be 40% when you start fighting.

Further more, it also depends very much on the situation too. People know not to shoot zarya's shields, but oddly enough a lot of people don't know what to do with it when they have it on either.
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>>342724465
That doesn't mean that you're going to kill your "counter" every time. They can still outplay you.

Zarya is fine, you're just frustrated that she outplayed you several times.

Also, long range characters don't just have "favorable" match-up against her, a good Soldier can shut her down every time.
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>>342724453

you are literally retarded
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>>342724576

>saving thumbnails
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>>342722448
then a smart player wouldn't chase
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>>342723871
>what is wraith form
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>>342724648
actually if you're a counter you should win 100% of the time unless there's a massive skill gap like an actual baby vs someone who's been playing competitive FPS for 15+ years

A counter shuts down a character, you're thinking of a favorable matchup which isn't the same thing.

For example there's nothing Genji can do against Mei, Zarya or Winston except leave.
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>>342724740
whops, thanks.
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>>342724305
literally kill yourself
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Surviving through the rip tire and D.va's self destruct never stops feeling amazing.
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>>342724862
>For example there's nothing Genji can do against Mei, Zarya or Winston

Sym, too.

I love shredding that robot queer with the death ray
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>>342724862
wish genji would just leave the game t b h
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>>342721116
Here it is casual autists, the secret to beating zarya:

1. Run circles around her at mid-close range. Her pipebomb-like shots are worthless at that range, forcing her to use her shitty laser
2. Don't shoot her while the barrier is up. This prevents the laser from doing any real damage if it even hits you for any length of time assuming you followed step 1
3. Shoot her when barrier is down. This will force her to give ground. Effectively winning the fight.

alternative rules for team fights:

1. Shoot whomever doesnt have a barrier. Zarya is a shit tank if you don't actually fall for the barrier. Her damage is subpar if you dont charge the barrier either
2. Force her to use her barrier then switch targets. This works for her ally barrier too. Best to force her to use it on some faggot hanzo player or whatever, then you murder the cumguzzling mercy while the shield is on cooldown

>b-b-but I can't aim!
>b-b-but I don't understand how to retreat even though im faster and can pick when to fight and she can't!
>b-b-but hitting the pretty barrier is so fun!
>b-b-but I cant move and shoot at the same time!
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>>342724740
>>342724902
Zarya threads best threads
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>>342724862
Not him, but I'd say the same is true for a Zarya against a Soldier 76.
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>>342724862
Genji can out range Mei and Zarya, and to a lesser degree Winston too.
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>>342725121

Nothing better than just hanging in the back row for a few seconds and letting the ally barrier get you to quick 30-50 charge. The second you rush in with that damage they'll focus on you like crazy, then you self shield to a 100 and grenade spam til you win.
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>>342724740
>>342724902
>>342725143
Why do they draw her face so ugly? She's actually pretty cute in-game.
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>>342725201
you mean tickle them while he stands still and gets killed by someone else? great plan
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>>342725376
If hes a bad shot, sure.
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>>342725334
don't you have something to be bitching about on twitter, Wu?
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>>342724862
>actually if you're a counter you should win 100% of the time

Again, this isn't a MOBA. There aren't hard counters. A good genji can still kill a bad Winston.

Some characters in Overwatch are more easily countered, true. But there are plenty of others who don't have strong counters alongside Zarya.
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>>342721773
just have a genji or dva to make him fuck off
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>>342725462
What?
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>>342721116
I wreck these dykes with my whole hog

Never fails
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>come to /v/
>at least 3 threads up crying for nerfs
>dozens of threads per day
>go to /vg/ OW general
>wahhhh nerf this
>waahhhh this is too strong what the fuck
>waahhhhh gut this

Is this really how the people who play these games behave?

What the fuck do they want? Do they want every single character to do nothing?
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>>342722004
Damn, now I'm into muscle russian women. Fuck
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Literally every hero in OW is OP according to people on this board, but if they are OP how come aren't you using them and winning you flaming faggots?

Don't shoot her, tell your team mates not to shoot her, and keep your distance. If you really want to fuck with her use Zenyatta and bait her into using her bubble early then discord orb her and rip her a new one with your anal beads.
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>>342725467
>i know more about the game's intentions than the people who made it
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>>342722004

Forgot the model name
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>>342725590
Except, that's not what I said at all.

I play the game, I acknowledge that good aim is better than bad aim. I realize that I can win bad match-ups by playing better than my opponent.
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>>342725467
>There aren't hard counters. A good genji can still kill a bad Winston.
I like how you ignored the next 6 words the sentence that pointed this out.

>>342725590
For sc2 vanilla hints, Blizzard listed Ultralisk as the counter to marauder. They do not understand competitive balance at all.
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>>342725334
I don't know and it always kills me
people really need to draw a cuter Zarya
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>>342725742
>winston needs to aim
>i play the game

Nice joke
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>>342725771
>I like how you ignored the next 6 words the sentence that pointed this out.

You mean the words that are overly exaggerated for your own narrative?

>>342725916
That wasn't the implication buddy. It's a general statement.
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>>342725916
Winston has an eighth of the range Genji has Faggot
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>>342725549
Thats the way it always is in class based games. Its especially bad with lower skilled players, who frankly don't know shit about how to play so they just cry everything is OP.

I mean look at TF2? The most gimped class in the game is constantly being bitched about, because people are dumb enough to get within melee range and not damage race a pyro or run away.
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>>342724074
her shield has 10 seconds cd if you can't kill a Zarya in 10 seconds as reaper you should look for a new game.

Also her shield only absorbs 200 hp and she can do nothing against Pharah or Widow or any other long range dps.
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>>342726046
Well Pyro is a little different. He's not good but he's really annoying. He's the perfect analogue for Mei.
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I'm just glad to be a Lucio player. My character will never be nerfed and will be free to use speed boops and healing to fuck with the other team...forever.
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>>342726242
Thats pretty much all the Pyro can be though. Hes a class that has been nerfed so much all he can do is annoy people, and yet you'll still hear cries of OP every time he somehow manages to get a kill.
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>>342726235
Absorbs 200 hp is weird considering it can stop ults if timed well.
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>>342726306
I guess thats one of the perks of playing either a nigger or a lesbian in a Blizzard game. Just like Zarya, he will never be nerfed because that would be discrimination.
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>>342726340
Yeah but his skill ceiling is so low that all his kills seem cheap. If the flame thrower didn't have such a wide cone it would be better, kinda like a low range quake lg.
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>tfw the redditors and tumblrinas didn't want to listen when I said Zarya was good as fuck and double Zarya is better than Reinhardt and Roadhog on some maps.


Now you all know.
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>>342722402
Roadhog for the extra medal
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>>342726494
Considering what game we're talking about, half of the classes could be called cheap and low skill ceiling.
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>>342726347
It absorbs 200hp but it will always absorb an attack completely meaning if it has 20 hp left it will still absorb a tracer pulse bomb completely.
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>>342726416
You sound a bit sore about something. Did a Lucio mash up your base, turn up the bass, and make his team boys run, thereby ending your game's week like a Sunday?
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>>342726613
True. I was only talking about TF2 seperately, Overwatch is way worse in a lot of ways.
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>>342726416
You sound like a salty faggot who can't feel the beat baby.
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I'm really good with Zarya and carry games with her fairly often.

While there isn't a direct "fuck you Zarya" hero besides maybe Reaper she's pretty mediocre if the enemy team plays around you.

You require a team that engages so you can bubble them, and your own bubble can only work in situations where you're about to take damage, as any skilled player will know to stop shooting as soon as you bring it up, it's mostly good against Pharah and Winston, and perhaps Roadhog as well.

You need a lot of map awareness and game sense to pull her off right, shielding the right target at the right time can be hard if shit is going down.

Still I find the best way to deal with Zarya myself is picking her and fighting Zarya v Zarya (and 99% of the times coming out on top).

I don't think she needs a nerf, but perhaps an adjustment to make her less viable in every comp that already has a tank and a healer.

Playing solo tank Zarya is kinda meh.
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>>342724957
I've put a shield on a Genji for a rip tire as he did his dash slash through it and they detonated it.

He felt so good as if he had anime slashed through it from full health since he was still alive and it was gone.
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What's that? You, in your infinite foolishness, walked into my line of sight? Well I guess you're going to die and there's nothing you can do about it.

Sorry about that.
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>>342726845
>Roadhog hook me
>blast him back and he misses his one shot kill
>skate away
Roadhog is only good for defense.
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>>342726845
>Can't one shot her
>needs two point blank left clicks to kill her
>she can just bubble and gain distance
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/v/ is typically full of whiny manchildren but when it comes to Overwatch every fucking thread is about how a different character is overpowered. Maybe the problem is you'll are bitches?
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Why does everyone like zarya? Is it because she wants to remove omnics?
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>>342726819
>she's mediocre against a 6 man coordinated premade

yeah well guess what 99.999% of games aren't
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>>342726845
Fuck you, you fat bitch. Your stupid stun shouldn't have that much range.

>>342726903
But he can shoot before you can do anything, so either that was a bad Roadhog that missed the shot or there was some latency involved.
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Where were you dumb faggots for the first month?

Why wasn't Zarya "super op" then?

The only reason you cancerous little subhumans give a fuck now is because streamers started using her. Fuck you.
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>>342726949
She becomes an annoying fuck who can dps tank and support if played right. Nothing broken but can be purely annoying like Mei.
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>>342726903
>misses

he can just hold down left click, nice job admitting you're in shitter mmr where people don't even know how to play their character
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>>342726961
>wow they picked X hero
>better do Y
>OH NO BUT WE NEED A 6MAN PREMADE TO DO THAT!

Really nigga
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>>342726949
She hot bruh
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>>342726845
Fucking roadhog
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Characters that can beat Zarya:

Roadhog
Mei
Soldier 76
Reaper
Junkrat
Pharah
Sniper if they can actually snipe

I'll agree she doesn't really have any single character hardcounters, but the above are still counters. Most of her hardcounters are combinations like Rein+Bastion. The only character that can really destroy Zarya is Symmetra.
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>>342727046
>this trigger roadhog
Did I hit a nerve?
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>>342727029
because she's an ugly character from battleborn and nobody played her and everyone was just picking mccree and widow because they were OP
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>>342726756
I'm only talkin bout TF2 right now. I mean look at the classes/weapons in that game. Two classes with high damage ranged weapons with huge AOEs, a class with a turret that auto aims and can gun down people on its own. The spy can backstab you in the face due to wonky hitboxes.

Hell, between that and the silly random crits nonsense, the game is full of cheap deaths that involve no skill. Its weird that so many people latched onto this one thing like its somehow an outlier.
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>McCree, Widow, and Tracer need legit nerfs
>Now that two of those were dealt with the casuals are going to continue whining about other heroes that don't need nerfs
>Because people are too stupid and continue shooting Zarya shields and grouping up when she has her ult ready they are going to nerf the most enjoyable tank to play
>Next up is Mercy because none of them actually play her and know how hard and un-enjoyable the job is, they want her ult nerfed because they are too retarded to acknowledge she exists and kill her first in a teamfight

I whined that the game shouldn't have been in beta so long but it's clear to me now they needed another 2 months, finish up the balance passes and then release it so that kids wouldn't beg for nerfs so much.
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>>342727132
>explaining mechanics is "trigger"

God you're dumb
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>>342727096
Roadhog is the ultimate hardcounter to 76. Reaper wishes he could be as annoying as Roadhog.
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The worst part about playing Zarya is no one saves their Ult so you can use them together. I always have the most fun with a Mei friend. More fun than Bastion+Rein.
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>people complaining about Zarya
>pick Reaper
>shoot her over and over

that was hard
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>>342727235
You do realize Roadhog won't always be able to hold down left click for it work with Latency right?
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>play tracer
>build up an ult in 3 seconds
>shoot zarya once
>all zaryas will instantly pop shield
>wait a second
>throw bomb on her
>repeat

WEW that was hard.
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>>342727153
I don't know man, the mini sentry is basically the most hated thing in that game.

>random crits
Do people even play in random crit servers? I never did.
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>>342726903
>>342727132

If Roadhog hooks someone he can hold down mouse 1 to guarantee that he always gets first action before the hooked player can act. If you try clicking it you may end up not getting the shot in before the hooked player can act.

Yeah, shitter MMR players don't know this.
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zarya honestly has one of the prettier faces, i hope she gets a costume with wild, long hair.
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>>342727214
To be fair, there are some legitimate needs for nerfs and buffs, but yeah the majority of the people crying is just a case of people being terrible.

Only one I can think may need some minor nerfs would be Roadhog, and thats only cause he did the same thing McCree did. Which is being too good 1v1.
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>>342727339
holy fuck anon how stupid can you possibly be

No wait, australian?
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>>342721116
Don't shoot the shield you stupid fuck
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>>342727359
Random crits are vanilla if I recall right. That said I don't think there were many servers with them off which weren't something dumb like one map 24/7
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>>342727395
>square man jaw
>pretty
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>>342726242
>>342726340
>>342726494
>pyro
>he
>his
:^)
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>>342727359
>random crits
>Do people even play in random crit servers? I never did.

I bet you play Smash and Mariokart without items
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>>342721116
>shield goes up
>stop firing
>resume when shield goes down
Is it REALLY that hard for you?
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>>342727357
>play Tracer
>be literally useless the entire game because the other team bumrushes your team 6v5 while you dance around in the back barely doing damage
>throw a bomb
>pop shield to contain it
>heroes never die
>Tracer continues to lose the match
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>>342727496
I don't know when you played but when I played there were billions of custom servers.

>>342727517
Are you actually defending RNG crits in an FPS game?
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>>342722232
>Talking out my ass: the post.

With 0 charge her dps is one of the lowest in the game. Not even Zenyatta is scared of a 0 charge Zarya, you're talking complete shit.
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>>342727631
Billions of custom, but not billions with crits off.
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>>342727214
Is Mercy really going to get nerfed?

I'll probably quit.
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>>342727551
Probably console where everyone picks Torb, Bastion, and Junkrat. Turrets won't stop shooting the shield, Bastions are retarded, and Junkrat doesn't pay attention to where he's shooting.
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>>342727697
good, fuck you
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>>342726996
Roadhogs stun is a set stun duration from when you first get hooked. However, he only gets to act after the hook is pulled all the way in. Anything past mid range is actually him giving you a free shot on him. It's like a reverse Sandman for some reason.
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>not maining based russain lesbian woman
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>>342727395
She just needs some kind of warrior princess/jungle theme
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>>342727697
She was already slightly nerfed.
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>>342727623
you clearly got triggered and stopped reading at TRACER.

>barely doing damage

Cheers love, the world could always use more GIT GUDS
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>>342727697
>Mercyshitters have to have the fastest charging and ONLY UNINTERRUPTIBLE ult in the game
Kill your self
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>>342727697
They might nerf her ult charge. Right now she's bugged though anyways. If you are power boosting someone hitting Reinhardt's shield it charges your ult when it's not supposed to.
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>>342727697
Ultimate charges stupidly fast
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>>342727683
Perhaps. I had a few good servers favorited and often played on them.

>>342727780
Well yeah, if he was good at long range he would be broken.
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>>342727797
>Lesbian
>flirts with Mcree
Degenerate be gone
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>>342727749
its funny how in every class centered game there are always autistic spergs like you who cry about any healing class at all. Guild Wars there were always retards complaining about monks, WoW people always complaining about Priests.

You should probably fuck off to something like Quake or some other Insta-gib FPS.
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>>342727697

Outside of Zarya she is the character the babies are crying about the most. They want her ult nerfed even more than it already is (it used to be map wide) by adding a 1-2 second cast time to it. Essentially they are complete trench players who ignore the enemy Mercy then make forum posts whining when she flies in to revive.

Playing support is hard enough as it is, if they end up nerfing Mercy I'll just quit playing support all together and let other people do it. It's fun to be the anchor of your team but even now the fun drains rather fast when you have a good Winston/Genji/Tracer harassing you the entire game and the ever present fact that you are the main target of the entire enemy team, just a punching bag.
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>>342727830
Triggered by all the useless Tracers I have on my team when I solo.
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>>342727994
>They want her ult nerfed even more than it already is (it used to be map wide)

Holy shit
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>>342727987
>Quake
>Insta-gib FPS

wat?
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>>342727987
>m-muh hedpats

Mercy players are fucking scum and I'm glad when bad things happen to them
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>>342722763
I use him when my team goes full retard goes I feel like he's one of the few characters can effectively try and win the game themselves. He's the only character where I can find myself killing the enemy, moving the payload and keeping myself alive at the same time by myself
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>>342728091
>Getting voted for because of how many gold medals you earned
That shit is stupid though.
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>>342721116
I'm ready for the pelvis crushing sex.
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>>342727868
That was fixed last week shit lord
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>>342727886
>>342727838

As it should, it has the requirement of at least one teammate being dead to be used.

In the beta her ult charge was much slower and Mercy gameplay consisted of charging your ult then waiting in the spawn until you had a chance to use it. Not fun, not great design, and not great for the game. Her ult needs to charge this quickly to be useful and for the hero to ever get picked.

>>342727868

Fixed like 3 patches ago.
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>>342728091
>Implying commends mean anything to me at all
It means more to me when people actually hit "Thanks" when I heal or resurrect their ass
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>>342728091
>that salt from the Mercy in chat

Perfect.
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>>342728198
>outperforming your entire team in every possible way
>not worthy of commendations
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>>342728198
>t. mad as fuck mercyshitter who upvotes itself
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would you snuggle zarya?

or rather, let zarya snuggle you?
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>>342722004
sauce
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>>342728317
as one of the worst heroes no less. i'd commend em.
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>>342722763

FACT

There is literally no reason to start games off as Winston UNLESS you somehow know the enemy team will have a widow or genji. Pick a different tank. Only switch to him to make enemies swap off their characters after killing them 1-2 times. He's good but please don't start with him unless its a point cap map
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>>342728220
I don't remember seeing it in the patch notes but okay. Still probably should nerf the charge rate.

>>342728253
There's only been one patch since release and it was in the release build.
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>>342728317
well generally you don't commend smug assholes either
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>>342727987
>As it should be
Nigga no it is one of the strongest Ultimates in the game it shits on Lucios and Zenyatta on top of charging a million times faster and being uninterruptible. she literally has no down side you dumb mother fucker. That is not how balance should work she should not have the best ult and highest fucking healing in the god damn game. Why are Waifufags such shitters they can't understand basic shit.
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>>342728091
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>>342728441
How does this relate to the conversation? I don't follow.
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>>342721116
She melts to focus fire converse to other tanks
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>>342728453
Learn to target the damn Mercy. Its not exactly like shes hard to kill.
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Remember wen u got gud? Oh wait
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zarya a shit and not cute like 3D russian qts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ik7RsKTNo
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>>342728453
That's all Mercy has. If Mercy's Ult wasn't strong there would be fucking ZERO reason to pick her over Lucio. Hell even Zenyatta would be more of a help thanks to Orb of Discord.

If you want to nerf Mercy's Ult nerf Lucio's fucking retarded ass too.
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>>342721116
does every character have to be so "lets appeal to dykes" now? so sick and tired of "rah rah women are strong too" PC bullshit
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>>342728091
>Defeat.
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>>342722763
>People still believe this

Winston is the ultimate disruptor. He can lead the way for the rest of your team to make an attack and get through a chokepoint and immediately leap right out again.

All you have to do is use his leap to get him around the enemy team and then you can start being a real pain in the ass. Combined with his shield and ult he becomes even more of a nightmare to kill. People keep on trying to score kills with him which is the problem, once you start taking too much punishment just leap right out and get healed. Winston is like tracer on steroids, use him to disrupt and to make aggressive pushes. There's a reason he gets picked a lot in competitive play.
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>>342728619
She can fucking rezz her whole team threw fucking walls and floors mate. I don't have a webm but there is a PoTG out there with mercy sitting in the spawn point of Girbalter and rezzed her whole fucking team from where no one could touch her.
>>342728660
Lucio only haves 13 health pre second out side a 13 fucking cd and his shields he gives rapid drain draining all 600 in a very few short seconds. What the fuck would they nerf on him?
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>>342728453

>she literally has no down side you dumb mother fucker.

Mercy has no defensive capability, no offensive capability, and an ultimate that requires not only for her teammate to be DEAD but also within close proximity to her. The only maneuver she has is a fairly slow movement ability that carries her to a teammates position, the massive downside to this is that there are no I-frames, no defensive boosts, no nothing, you just travel in a straight line and are still easily picked off or jumped/dashed upon at your destination.

The downside here is pretty obvious, her teammates have to be dead, she has to get close, AND she has to stay alive. This isn't an easy task and I'd implore you to actually try playing Mercy and see how difficult it is. You only think she is overpowered because you're a fucking trashcan player who ignores her all game and doesn't realize you always go for the supports first.
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>>342722103
>Everything but the point of his post is already in the game

Brave, anon
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>>342728414
If your solo queueing. If your running with a team that can do shit a winston can break up people so your team can do shit.
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>>342728660
>Mercy gets picked %100 on every tournament match
>Zenyatta gets picked like %4 of the time and only if there is another healer
>DON'T NERF HER, SHE'LL BECOME UNPLAYABLE
Cmon now.
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>>342728091
>Legendary commended in a game you lost for having 5 gold medals without being hard countered.

?
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>>342728091
>get valkyrie skin
>play mercy
>heal roadhog
>heal soldier, pharah, genji when they run to me, sometimes fly after them for clutch saves
>buff pharah when she's in the air
>suddenly roadhog start crying at me in chat to heal only him
>tell him I'm healing everyone else, too
>his reasoning is that its a team game and that I should "build ult on him"
>i've already built ult several times on everyone else
>he goes "...." everytime he dies
>complains I never rezzed him even though I rezzed our damage dealers nonstop
>something similar to this happens in 50% of the games I play
you've cursed me faggot
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>>342728453
>probably never used her himself.
she literally cant attack and only heal/ buff one person a time.
you are just a whiny faggot...
people like you, crying for nerfs, make games worse.
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>>342726605
>defeat
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>>342728809
>All these projections
I know you kill her first, but her Ultimate is way bettter then Lucios. She can hide back and wait for the enemy team to waste their ults then rezz her whole team from a fucking safe room because it goes threw floors and walls.
>>342728872
I have 9 hours of mercy lad she can defend her self pretty well. While not having the best gun in the game Her pistol can catch people off guard if they expect an easy kill. I play mercy and even know she needs balances.
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>>342724305
Stop trying to 1v1 characters that dominate 1v1

Next you're gonna complain about Mei
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>>342728794
While thats bullshit, I guarentee you that doesn't happen most games, and if anything is a very rare occurrence. Just fix that exploit and shes fine.

Literally any other game you just find Mercy and kill her. Over and over.
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>>342728253
I don't care if they slightly buff its range in exchange for slower charge. But she can get it in about 25-30 seconds with no effort. No other character in the game can build it that fast without shooting their weapon. She's balanced because she can't escape without a teammates help so she's pretty easy to kill. But she can basically just throw out ultimates like candy without worry because she will probably get it back as fast as she threw it out.

Not saying it should get massively nerfed but it should get slightly altered to be slower for slight range increase. Mercy's literally just pop ultimates to rezz snipers because it comes back so fast.

Also so no waifufag fucking REEEEEs at me

MERCY IS NOT OVERPOWERED.
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>>342729030
>Her pistol can catch people off guard if they expect an easy kill.

It's ridiculous how many flankers I've killed with her because my teams are drooling retards. She can do 200 DPS with headshots, and has the generous projectile hitboxes.
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>>342728794
The broken thing about Lucio isn't healing it's speed boost. When used right it's fucking game changing and can disrupt so much shit it's ridiculous.

Luckily very few people use it right.
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>>342729030
>I play mercy and even know she needs balances.
>Yeah, I want the character I play to be nerfed!!

Stop lying on the internet.
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>>342728671

I'm just as sick and tired of cucks like you whining about it
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>>342728823

The meta right now involves mostly dual healer lineups with Mercy+Lucio being the combo. Zenyatta was nerfed in the beta because Zen+Genji was an unstoppable combo and every game consisted of 2 of each for each team.

What makes Mercy so good is that her ult provides counterplay and gives a defensive side a fighting chance, without revive the game would be even more offensively balanced and you might as well not even play.
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>you'll never lick her scar
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>>342729226
>Nerfed
It's balance and I don't only play mercy faggot My most played is Mcree
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That sounds like armorlock from Halo Reach. Melee shitters couldn't resist going in for a melee and getting punished for it. So they whine it was overpowered.
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>>342729253
>game is offense based
Looks like someone hasn't played Capture the point. There is a reason they don't play it in tournaments it's free wins for defense.
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>implying I don't intentionally put barriers on shitty suicide Genjis just to get my charge up

Shitty Genji's are the true secret to being a good Zarya

Bastion can fuck her over pretty hard if you do encounter an unstoppable one, you have to take the risk of charging her up but most will try to bumrush you with their new power and fail
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>>342729253
>
The meta right now involves mostly dual healer lineups with Mercy+Lucio being the combo. Zenyatta was nerfed in the beta because Zen+Genji was an unstoppable combo and every game consisted of 2 of each for each team.
Tell me something I don't know.

>What makes Mercy so good is that her ult provides counterplay and gives a defensive side a fighting chance, without revive the game would be even more offensively balanced and you might as well not even play.

What are you talking about? Offense can use her just as well. The game revolves around Mercy hiding in a corner long enough for her teammates to get killed then popping out reviving them to start the fight again. It's a shit way to balance the game and she will always be a guaranteed pick with a res like that.
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>>342726912
Yeah, Zarya versus Roadhog is favourable to Zarya.
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>>342729381

I've been playing the game for 7 months, the game is offensively balanced and it's why comp tournaments had to enact unofficial stopwatch rulesets.

The offense won nearly every game and they needed some way to decide on a winner.
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>>342729443
Not if she has low charge. Roadhog can out-dps her easily.
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>>342727623
>Tracer
>barely doing damage

You what?
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>>342727046

>Doesn't understand how roadhog hook works
>Calls other people shit

White lies visions dreams of passion floating through my mind and all the while I think of (You)
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I've never played Overwatch but I want to shitpost about how some characters are OP

I think I hear Bastion the most right
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>>342729590

If you hook someone and hold down M1 you will ALWAYS get the first action as roadhog, the hook distance does not matter.

Stop shitposting trying to be cool.
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>NERF EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER EXCEPT THE ONE I PLAY

This is why games like these will always be terrible. Because the devs eventually cave in to the whining.
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>>342729594
nah thats not that funny and bastion gets easily killed by a skilled player..
better shitpost about characters people dont want or dont need to be nerfed.
like as mentionned mercy or zarya.
or reinhardt
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>>342722004
stefania ferraria

happy fapinn or schlickin
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