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Is the sonic character design inherently autistic or not?
If you can't run with your arms behind you, you can't run fast.
>>342715426
Anon, in the 90's that was not even a thing. EVERYONE loved Sonic in the 90's. (Unless you were a Nintendo fanboy)
The Sonic is for people with autism thing only is said on 4chan and from anyone who hears the ridiculous meme.
>>342715553
I thought the reason he holds his arms back since Sonic Adventure was because it was implying he was moving so fast he couldn't keep his arms infront of him due to the velocity.
>ANNIVERSARY game only comes out next year
>tfw this year all we have is another Sonic Boom game
SEGA is fucking incompetent and I am done with this game series
Cream is a good girl
>>342715713
I think he holds them back before that, when you go super sonic in the classic games.
overall bad game serie
>>342715715
>I want 3 games per year
Isn't that a bit unreasonable?
>>342715781
I thought he only did that because he was anime hovering
>>342715715
yeah let's just rush the anniversary game out the door
what could possibly go wrong?
Sonic Generations is probably my favorite of the newer gen games.
>>342715804
Tell me a game series, that has lasted almost just as long, that you've actually played nearly as many games of the entire series that can compete?
>>342715950
I liked the levels in Sonic 06. Overall pretty diverse and would have been good in a game that didn't glitch the fuck out everytime you played.
>>342715986
Dragon quest is so much higher you can't even put them in the same picture
>>342715957
It's a favorite to a lot of people due to the fact that people were pretty iffy about Sonic Lost World and the other game was Boom.
I actually prefer Sonic Unleashed.
>>342715713
And because the animation would look retarded if we was swinging his arms
>>342716068
>>342715804
>i watch youtube and i know all about sonic
k
Those tweets yesterday were the shit.
Also posting best girl.
>>342716068
>Dragon Quest
You mean that JRPG series barely anyone gives a shit about because they refuse to change their boring ways?
Recommend me a Dragon Quest game that isn't 8 that doesn't suck that was made in the past decade.
>>342715950
they have been developing the anniversary game for 5 years now (Lost World was done by another team) so it wouldn't be rushed :^)
>>342715572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoMMMalj9Fw
I don't frequent /v/
it's just pretty universal at this point
>>342716081
>tfw only heard bad things about it
>look up some gameplay in the day stages
>rooftop run
>empire city
>it looks awesome
Fucking IGN
>>342716108
Sonic swings his arms in the older games before going full sprint.
>>342716162
9 and Heroes
>>342716212
Before going full sprint.
At a certain point it stops looking that great.
>>342716202
People bitch about the werehog stages, which don't bother me at all.
Some claim it takes too long when really it's just them sucking at the game half the time and refuse to upgrade Werehog's stats to make him more damaging to enemies.
Other times they hate actually platforming, which is hilarious if you think about it, but people also say it'd be better if Knuckles would be in the game....which just means they wish it wasn't a werehog and the God of War-like battle system isn't the problem they just want their fan favorite in it instead.
>>342715804
Lets get to the bottom of this meme
>Top tier
Sonic
Sonic 3
Sonic CD
Chaos
Advance 3
Rush Adventure
Generations
Colors
>Aiight tier
Sonic 2
Advance
Advance 2
Rush
4 part 2
Adventure 2
Unleashed
>>>/trash/
Blast
Chaotix
4 part 1
Adventure
06
Heroes
Chronicles
Looks pretty balanced to me
>>342716202
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn-AtNRcUQY
Past and new, Rooftop Run had nice music.
>>342716197
>I don't frequent /v/
>While on /v/
k
>>342716454
I'm mostly on other sites and boards
don't pretend that everything is so black and white
>>342716371
>sonic unleashed
>it's too fast
>sonic lost world
>it's too slow
And that's how I developed my deep hatred for game critics
>>342716394
>Always seeing Adventure on bottom tier lists
I keep forgetting most of you probably didn't play it back in 1999. Back then it was absolutely amazing and it did age badly so I can't really blame people for not appreciating what Sonic Team was trying to do back then.
>>342715986
mario
kirby
castlevania
mega man
donkey kong
dragon quest
final fantasy
Ys
all of these crush this shit sonic is to oblivion, even the best sonic game that is 3 is not that good. sonic fags are pathetic
>next big Sonic game comes out in 2017
Well, I guess we should be thankful Sega isn't rushing this one out to meet an anniversary deadline.
>>342716531
Sometimes I think people are just too unfairly critical of Sonic in general.
>>342716531
Jim Sterling keeps hating on Sonic games, but likes Sonic Lost World (You know, the one people mostly don't like?)
Let that sink in for a moment.
I loved the feeling of Sonic Unleashed daytime Sonic because I felt like I actually had to learn and control that kind of speed. And then the nighttime stages slows things down and let's you actually battle and platform.
>>342716583
Hopefully we get something that might pass the time
I hear we're getting a 25th Anniversary compilation
And Also Ice and Fire
Looks like I'll be playing those
>>342716697
Unleashed PC port when?
Lets get this out of the way right now
Blue arms or flesh tone?
>>342716802
I've gotten used to the blarms but Boom Sonic is still kinda lanky.
>>342716802
SONIC
DOES NOT HAVE
BLUE ARRRRMMSSSS!!!!!!!!
>>342716802
Blue arms looks like a coloring error and kinda ruins the nice balance Sonic's coloring had anyway.
>>342716394
>Top tier
>Sonic
you cannot be serious
>>342716802
>>342716869
>>342716884
>>342716889
So what would Rouge look like in Sonic Boom given the odd arm coloring?
>>342716869
The part of Boom Sonic's design that bugs me is those tiny extra spines on his head.
>>342716802
Anyone who likes blue arms is a heathen.
>>342716934
b2plebbit memerino casino
Sonic 3&K > Dragon Quest
Sonic CD > Dragon Quest
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 > Dragon Quest
Sonic Unleashed > Dragon Quest
Sonic Generations > Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest a shit, SHIT
is the CWCki working for anyone else?
>>342716581
>Mario
Mario doesn't even sell anymore. At one point Sonic Lost World was the Wii U's highest selling game. Think about that for a moment.
>Kirby
No one talks about Kirby, and the last two sucked. (Hoping the new one doesn't, I love Kirby)
>Castlevania
HAHAHA, are you serious? Castlevania is just as rocky as Sonic! Do I really need to bring up Lords of Shadow 2? That's the most recent one I can think of, not even the earlier games were that good besides Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow and MAYBE the first Lords of Shadow.Christ dude...were you even trying?
>Mega Man
Battle Network sucks, X7, their own anniversary game. And the main line has only had 10 games.
>Donkey Kong
There's only been 2 games in the past decade, one involved fucking drums. Tropical Freeze was good.
>Dragon Quest
It's all the same fucking grinding bullshit. 8 was the only one that has stood out besides the spin offs.
>Final Fantasy
I said in the past decade anon, there hasn't been a good Final Fantasy in the past 10 years.
>Y's
Never played it.
>sonic fags are pathetic
No
>>342717082
the fuck are you going on about
Guys did you know that Mario is faster than Sonic because Mario can buildup so much speed he can quarter step through simulated parallel universes (meaning that for every quarter of a step, he travels to a different simulated parallel universe)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A
>>342717179
Sonic > Mario
Sonic > Kirby
Sonic > Final Fantasy
Sonic > whatever other franchises you mentioned
>>342716546
It was shit at the time. I still have a dreamcast
Stuff like incoming, echo and crazy taxi were the radical shit
>>342717149
>Kirby
One of the only good things that came out of Nintendo, other than Earthbound/Mother series, Animal Crossing, and maybe a few other titles.
Mario sucks donkey balls objectively speaking. In fact, Mario sucks so much Kirby is like a better version of him who can copy the abilities of his enemies.
>>342717238
N-NANI?!
>>342717280
i didn't mention any though
you clearly have the wrong anon here
>>342717406
Oh, my mistake
It's sfill true though
>>342717284
>Shit at the time
>Was highly praised by game reviewers and fans alike in 1999
You best be joking dude.
>Crazy Taxi
That needs a new game, and I don't mean the f2p game that's out.
>>342717238
yeah but i think you failed to account that sonic could easily build up speed if he wanted also
so like, if sonic build up speed combined with how fast he could go to begin with the he wouldn't just be traveling parallel universes,
he'd be travelling perpendicular multiverses
>>342716202
Thanks Sonic, you're cool too!
>>342717530
But that's just a theory.
In the video I posted, Mario actually does it IN THE GAME!
https://youtu.be/beNfj2tlQ1o
>>342717435
eh, not really
Sonic was a great franchise at its high point but it's been mostly shit after that
worth noting the green text about sonic and top tier was referring to the first game btw
>>342717823
Sonic 3K > Sonic CD > Sonic 2 > Sonic 1 > Cuckles Chaotix
no new game until next year, this whole year is a waste:
http://soahcity.com/2016/06/25/iizuka-announces-new-sonic-project-for-2017/
>>342717981
i can agree with that
General consensus on Sonic X? Both dubbed and subbed?
>>342718197
subbed was way better, I hated the dub with a passion and their ridiculous censoring.
>>342718197
Subbed.
Dub cuts out tons of content.
>>342715950
god damn it's such a fucking shame Sonic 06 ended up sucking ass. If the devs weren't focusing on putting in useless shit like multiplayer or missions about walking a fucking dog, this game could've kicked ass.
General consensus on SATAM
>>342718698
Good, cancelled too soon.
Underground had the better theme
>>342718197
the dub actors really sucked until around Sonic Unleashed
>>342718197
dub was gross 4kids shit, sub was good. overall pretty meh anime
>>342717149
>Mario doesn't sell
What? Mario Maker sold 3 million copies. NSMB sold 5 million. Even 3D World beats Lost World in sales.
>Battle Network sucks
The only bad BN games that everyone can agree were bad were 4 and 5. And the Battle Chip system was unique and allowed for creativity. Starforce 1 and 3 were also good. X7 may have been bad, but X8 was a massive improvement and a fun game in its own right with the best armor system and replayability. Then there's the Legends games, the Zero games, and the ZX games which were all great games. Most Megaman series only have 2 bad games. X has X6 and X7. BN has BN4 and BN5. Zero has Z2.
>Kirby
Triple Deluxe had a good critic and user score on Metacritic, which is a rare sight these days. Only IGN gave it a mediocre score for the sake of having a different opinion and seeking attention. I even 100% the game and enjoyed it. The next one is 3D with more features and a better plot.
>Donkey Kong
There's only 1 bad DK game (the DS one) and one arguably mediocre one (DK Returns.) The fact that Freeze was good only proves that DK is a series associated with quality as most games are good.
>DQ
You can't be serious. Asides from the NES trilogy, the series isn't even hard enough to warrant lots of grinding.
>Final Fantasy
XII IZJS was a great game.
>>342718698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7QLRCIFQdw
>Hyper sonic could have been introduced
>>342718197
Never dub before you sub
>>342719164
>tfw we could've gotten knuckles
that theme you posted is pretty great btw
>>342718783
>Underground had the better theme
It was also full of quality.
>>342719054
>What? Mario Maker sold 3 million copies. NSMB sold 5 million. Even 3D World beats Lost World in sales
But what actually sold, the games or the systems? Each of the mario games you mentioned was tied in with a console bundle. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have yet to be convinced Mario actually sells games without it being a bundle set.
>Battle Network
Agree to disagree, I simply don't like the later Mega Man series.
>Kirby
>Needing a plot
Lol what?
>Donkey Kong
Stop it, DK has barely games out in comparison to any other series you have mentioned.
>DQ
>You can't be serious
I'm dead serious, it's a game series that is too scared to stop the grinding bullshit.
>Final Fantasy
>XII IZJS was a great game.
I hated FF12, so I didn't care to play a game based on the same world as FF12
>>342719749
Someone jerked off to this
>>342716546
I played had a blast of a time, but i replayed it last year and shit man, i don't know who thought this was well designed, same goes for SA2
>>342720078
Standards were different back then.
I love SA1, I love the hub worlds and going through different character story modes. I understand the game hasn't aged well but if I looked back at all past games and compared them to now I'd say all video games are terrible.
All video games lose their appeal over time. Very rarely do games stand up against the test of time.
>>342718197
The dub is god awful, but even subbed it's a slog to watch. Chris is the main problem. He wouldn't be so bad if he were a side character but it quickly becomes apparent that isn't the case, and he's actually the main character rather than Sonic. Pretty much everything revolves around him and you barely get to see Sonic do all that much.
Season 3 is especially infuriating because you start out thinking "Oh shit we're getting a Sonic show with only Sonic characters since they're back on their home planet!" and then Chris shows up and it all goes downhill from there.Then the worst girl Cosmo shows up and it gets even worse.
It has its moments, like the SA2 adaptation, but overall Sonic X is very mediocre and very forgettable.
>>342719957
People unironically enjoy that show. Even autism can't explain that.
>>342719957
I Hope it was not you
>>342719442
Sonic fits surprisingly well with english voices, not even anglo. The X dub was horrible for reasons besides the VA and I usually pick english voices in the games.
>>342719749
Never said the show itself was good.
But you have to admit the Underground's theme is fucking great
https://youtu.be/S5ki8swC6xo
>>342716394
fuck you man Heroes was the shit
>>342720360
No, sorry, is not a bad game because it is dated and standards were different. It has the stupid problem of being fun but still TERRIBLY designed, making you play through different gameplay styles and most of the time the same stages over and over just to get to the end
Happens in Unleashed, SA1, SA2, Heroes, Shadow and many more
I can't consider them good games when i'm only enjoying what could be less than 40% of each. The only ones that are objectively good put together games are the 2D Main titles, Generations and MAYBE Colors
Calm the fuck down, we're not getting a new game until 2017 and we're not even getting any info until next month.
>>342716394
i'd bump Rush 1 up to Top and move Generations down
>>342715553
It was because they wouldn't have to animate his arms
The same with most animes and the old Hanna Barbera cartoons (most character held their hands in front of them when running)
>>342720749
I kinda agree, the game itself was fine, the whole team gimmick was pretty pointless. My main complaints are the wacky camera, the main characters look plastic, since they don't really have textures for whatever reason, and the fact that it was basically forcing you to replay it with minor variations 4 times. Atleast one of them was more mission based but still
Need some drawfriends for that sweet Amy goodness
>>342720815
>the same stages over and over just to get to the end
Um....that's what video games do anon
>>342720928
You cocksucking faggot. What, the five billion pictures already out there aren't enough? Leave some room for characters with close to 0 (zero) material.
>>342716802
well you see, the thing is that in the past everyone except Sonic had arms that were in their main respective color, so really having blue arms just fixes a general problem with his design, he stuck out like a sore thumb around the rest of the cast due to having flesh colored arms.
also it makes CWC mad as fuck so more power to the blue arms i say
>>342715572
This it true. The autism started when you had some people who couldn't let Sonic go even when he was way past his prime. Additionally the autistic cartoon/comic secondaries had much to do with it, as they were largely the ones responsible for all the retarded character recolor OC art on Deviantart.
>>342720972
SA2 did it right by having separate levels with separate designs for each character instead of having multiple characters go through the same parts of the same levels.
>>342720901
>Game itself was fine
>Main gimmick pointless
>Bad camera
>Shitty character models
>Forcing you to replay levels
So you're saying that the game was fine, except pretty much everything didn't work. The only thing that worked well were the level design.
>>342718197
Comfy nostalgiabomb show, i like it unironically
Dubs are always bad but i've never seen the sub personally
>>342721273
The only part i sort of liked is the japanese ending where Tails blames Sonic for not saving Cosmo or some shit like that and he starts crying, i felt so bad
>>342721134
>some people who couldn't let Sonic go even when he was way past his prime
I guess I'm one of those people.
>Additionally the autistic cartoon/comic secondaries had much to do with it, as they were largely the ones responsible for all the retarded character recolor OC art on Deviantart.
I enjoy the comics, and did have an OC character while I was in game design for an undead monkey named Jinx
I guess I really am autistic?
>>342721113
>best girls
Damn it anon I cant masturbate now. Dont do this to me
>>342720815
I can't speak for Unleashed but Heroes, SA1, SA2 and Shadow are different in that aspect anon.
In SA1 and SA2 you just have similiar themes for the levels, but the gameplay is different, especially in 1 because there you have the escape amy stages and the fucking fishing
In heroes, you do repeat the same stages which was bad.
In Shadow though, that game had a shitton of replayability, most stages had 3 ways to complete them and like 10 endings too, it was basically a fixed version of Heroes.
THey all had the same problem though, kinda weak controls, shit camera, and later on either just bad , boring or fucking full on cringe stories.
>>342721113
Excellent taste.
>25th Anniversary game
>Releasing on the 26th year of Sonic
gg Sega
>>342721370
>OC
yes
>>342721225
The controls were fine, the level design was pretty fucking great, proper cuhrazey for a sonic game, the soundtrack was good, it had the best special stages since sonic 2. Not a good game but far from a shitty game, it's a solid 6/10
>>342721175
But not every character in SA1 went through the same levels. I think you're exagerating a bit. Also even if they did go through the same levels they were doing different things.
I don't know why people hated the different gameplay mechanics of each person, I thought it brought variety and characterization through different ways of completing objectives.
>>342721134
>>342721370
This pretty much sums it up
https://gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/sonic-and-the-worst-fandom-ever/
The name is obvious clickbait but the article is actually good
>>342721439
So it's okay to have an OC super hero, but not an OC undead monkey?
That doesn't make sense to me at all.
>>342716108
WE WUZ SWINGING HIS ARMS
>>342721493
>best special stages
>BEST SPECIAL STAGES
>>342721405
Vanilla is a tantalizing character because she seems like the only one trying to live a normal life.
>>342721113
>your butt's gotten pretty big, mom!
I know you fags had/have your own OCs
We all do.
Post them.
>>342721504
>But not every character in SA1 went through the same levels.
Not every character went through every single level, but every level except the Tails sandboarding one was shared by at least two, usually more, characters, which was lazy.
>I don't know why people hated the different gameplay mechanics of each person
Because people got a game called >>>Sonic<<< Adventure to play as Sonic. If they wanted differently gameplay styles then they should've made separate Tails/Knuckles/Eggman/etc. games like they did previously and like Nintendo did with their side characters.
>>342721578
Who said it's okay to have an OC super hero?
>>342721656
It was basically the tunnel running shit from 2, and that was fucking tight
>>342721113
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>342721113
>>342721405
>tfw criminally low amounts of good vanilla r34
>>342721504
Bad gameplay is bad, that was the start of the slow characters and replaying levels just to get the ending
Also the production values of SA1 and 2 are incredibly low
>inb4 someone says MUSIC IS GODLIKE whatever
that's the ONLY thing they have, we already had good cinematics, cutscenes and animations around the time (i.e: Crash Bandicoot) SA1 and 2 came out
>>342721493
>best special stages
those were horrible anon, either you got the emerald in 3 seconds or you had to restart
>>342721709
Actually whoever looked at the vast vast surplus and thought to add another one should be shot.
Today me and my friends are playing through the entirety of Sonic 06 in one sitting. We attempted it last year and had to give up when it was 5 AM and we were stuck on a Silver level. Pray for us boys
>>342721726
>Because people got a game called >>>Sonic<<< Adventure to play as Sonic. If they wanted differently gameplay styles then they should've made separate Tails/Knuckles/Eggman/etc. games like they did previously and like Nintendo did with their side characters.
But they did do that, they called it the Sonic Adventure series to show that you were playing with different characters.
>>342721728
You can't even have an OC super hero? The fuck?
>>342721831
Well yeah. She's the only one legal
>>342721960
Feel free to point out where in the name "Sonic Adventure" it indicates characters other than Sonic.
No, there is no character called Adventure.
>>342715572
>EVERYONE loved Sonic in the 90's. (Unless you were a Nintendo fanboy)
So the majority of people didn't give a shit about Sonic.
>>342722047
Where on Sonic 2 & 3 does it say you can play as Tails?
See, you're not making sense.
why are all of you so autistic
>>342721960
Sonic Adventure implies that it is an adventure featuring Sonic
Sonic & Knuckles indicates there is another character you will be playing as
>>342722147
>Where on Sonic 2 & 3 does it say you can play as Tails?
I don't know to be honest anon, maybe because HIS FACE IS IN THE FUCKING TITLE SCREEN AND IS HUGE AS HELL?
>>342722105
You must of not been around in the 90's, sonic was everywhere.
>>342722105
Gaming was a barely mainstream back then anon. Even Mario and Sonic were still only known by a small group
>>342722105
>implying you coudn't like both
>>342721891
I reckon the reason why most original the characters exist is because the socially impaired 11-12YOs see that everyone else has their own. so they should make their own as well.
>>342722185
Because I refuse to not like Sonic
>>342722215
But it does show on the back of the game you can play as other characters anon.
>>342722147
When in Sonic 2 was Tails' gameplay separate from Sonic's? Fans are fine with multiple characters as long as they're still Sonic's gameplay with minor variations. Fans weren't fine with Sonic Adventure and later games because you weren't playing Sonic's gameplay with minor variations, you were playing completely different things.
>>342721113
Delete this
>>342722204
why does the text keep changing to katakana , to emphasize something? I don't mean the english words like course but the shit like in ありマスか
>>342722185
Even then who cares?
>>342721709
>We all do.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, faggot.
>>342722304
It's like furries, except... No, it's actually exactly like furries. Loathing humans and all that.
>>342722326
I guess I'm an oddball for liking variety in my games.
>>342722326
I still don't get it who thought it would be a good idea to put in a gimped version of sega's fishing game into SA1
>>342722304
So let me get this straight
It's not good to have OC characters because it's autistic, yet super heroes can get a free pass?
>>342721891
It was mostly because they would see the characters created by the comic artists, which were usually created with the formula: take existing character -> add hair/new clothing article -> new character. The kids would see these dumb "original" character designs and they'd be tempted to create their own.
>>342721831
Not at all.
>>342722319
A lot of people praise S3&K mainly because the alternate characters don't deviate from Sonic's gameplay style
SA1 started the stupid trend of slowing down characters and introducing gameplay styles NO ONE wanted.
>inb4 some idiot says WELL I LIKED IT ANYWAY
But nobody wanted that, there is a reason why for a long time after 06' the only gameplay style was Sonic, and in cases like Unleashed where they could've used Knuckles for the brawling they just turned Sonic into a Werehog
From SA1 --> Colors (MAYBE, i don't like the Mario 3 platforming in this game) + Lost World and Boom; the games are fun but HORRIBLY designed to the point where i had fun with them but it would be stupid to say they are good games, even as much as i like Unleashed, the Werehog completely ruined the game, and he is like 60% of it.
>>342722601
>>342721571
>people sperged out because the games didn't follow the comics stories
I don't know, doesn't Star Wars main event, the movies, ignore the whole ocean of comics, game stories, books, cartoons? There's obviously retarded SW fans but not to the extent of Sonic fans.
I think after adding the extra focus on stories in Sonic games, which were dumb as fuck and cringeworthy voice acting, the games have started to attract furfags and other kind of retards in general. You can see the people who consort with beasts in this very thread.
>>342722601
I n-need the source. I must see this shit
>>342722826
I kinda agree with you. For example, I still believe that Sonic Heroes has the best story.
That said trying to give the world more depth was a bad idea. What was a bad idea was giving said world like 20 diferent sources that didnt even relate to one another
>>342723192
Meant to say it wasn't a bad idea
>>342715426
It was made as mass appeal for sales. Nothing less, nothing more.
>>342723192
>>342723293
The problem is that Sonic games were a certain kind that were all gameplay who gives a fuck about the story like Mario and Doom. Nintendo knew to not deviate into storytelling with their shit, Sega didn't. A lot of people also praised the 2016 Doom approach to the story, there's some fag in a screen saying shit and Doomguy just breaks the monitor and throws it away, in those games you simply don't need a story.
Trying to make Sonic have a human love interest and all kinds of weird shit just came across as dumb and creepy. People didn't play those games for the characters but for the gameplay alone.
The main issue with Sonic's development was Sega of America. They should've kept more of an eye on what the cartoon and comics people were doing so they'd actually adapt what little there was of the video games, but instead we got nothing but condensed, weapons-grade autism along with a decent comedy show.
>>342723576
>They should've kept more of an eye on what the cartoon and comics people were doing so they'd actually adapt what little there was of the video games
Why though? There are tons of games with books and comics and they never bring the stories of those alternate medias into games. Who gives a fuck about the story in a Sonic game.
>>342722601
Jesus Christ.
>>342723715
Because it resulted in retarded autistic fans throwing a shitfit because the bad guy isn't called Dr. Robotnik and the cartoon Freedom Fighters aren't in the games.
>>342722221
>must of
Crawl back into your cave, uneducated amerishit.
>>342722234
Mario was pretty big even during the SNES days.
M-maybe it's time to stop liking Sonic. I read the comics, have some figures and even plushies. Maybe it's time for me to stop resisting and move on with my life?
>>342723715
Because the comics and cartoons were the only contact many of them had to the franchise. They simply didn't know better.
>>342724120
>Because the comics and cartoons were the only contact many of them had to the franchise
I highly doubt this.
>>342723574
You know what's the saddest thing?
This wasn't a very hard mistake to fix. Just have one guy making sure that people couldnt just use the license like it was nothing
>>342723853
I think the autistic fans of comics metastasized to the games when they began putting storytelling and voice acting in the games. MARIAAA and this kind of shit was just not necessary, and in fact detrimental to the game.
>>342724120
pretty much
>>342724243
>a product designed for elementary school boys should not have a story comparable to Saturday morning cartoons also designed for elementary school boys
I really don't understand this line of thinking. I can get not wanting an excess of story that gets in the way of the gameplay, but there was much worse than SA2 in cartoons growing up, especially when the 90s anime boom happened.
>>342716181
Yeah... I'm gonna need source on this.
>>342724223
There were kids who only watched the Pokemon anime. Some kids only knowing Sonic from the cartoons isn't at all implausible.
>>342724472
cartoons were there to provide a story
the games were there to provide gameplay
Trying to mix might have worked on a game with bigger focus on story like a RPG or an adventure game.
Sonic simply was not a good kind of game for them to try their storytelling "talents". Also, their voice acting and storytelling fucking sucks dick and only came across as lame tryhard.
>>342720534
Huh, I disagree.
I thought Season 3 was great, because it's basically what GT should have been like. Yeah, Chris shows back up, but he's basically a different character at that point, and not even the focus.
And I liked the Cosmo/Tails thing.
>>342724793
Sonic games have had story since day one.
>>342724656
I can understand a kid watching one of the cartoons before playing the game, but I doubt having watched the cartoon would have such a detrimental effect many years later. They would have to come into contact with the game series at some point.
>>342724793
Exactly what kind of games did you play growing up? The vast majority of games since 3D became widespread (N64/PSX/Saturn era) have had some story, even Mario games.
>>342725037
Sure but at that point the only games were 2D ones. The autistic shitflinging started with Adventure when they tried to unify the canons, which is when "Robotnik not Eggman!" and other bullshit started.
>>342717981
I would swap two and CD but that's just me
Does anyone think we might get a 25th anniversary compilation?
This thread is fucking atrocious.
Don't call anybody!
>>342725597
kind of like your mom's cooch after i was finished with it
>>342724956
A very fringe story with nearly no cutscenes. Wow Knuckles was an asshole in a 5 seconds cutscene, stop the presses.
3D games started with dialogue and more focus on story. But the series was never about the story or dialog, and Sonic Team had zero talent for either which only made things worse.
>>342725126
I grew up on Mario and Sonic, Mega Bomberman and such, why is that important?
While Mario 64 has some dialogue, it was all optional talking to those toads, and the focus was clearly not on storytelling either. Even Mario Galaxy's story is a side thing in that Rosalina book room.
>>342717330
>One of the only good things that came out of Nintendo, other than Earthbound/Mother series
>2016
>being a Motherfag
>>>/starmen.net/
>>342725838
The only reason Sonic games didn't have more developed stories during the MD era was the technical limitations. It's pretty obvious Sonic was supposed to have a bigger focus in story in comparison to Mario games since the beginning.
>>342715572
I want to feed Cream a meal that consists entirely of dairy
>>342716145
>Cream will keep her small size until she's 17.
>And then bloom in a single year into a Vanilla-sized rabbit
>>342726223
[citation needed]
Mario had its own TV series, comics cartoons and even a movie.
>>342716994
This.
>>342721020
No, Amy had flesh tone arms too, it was just a hedgehog thing. The only Hedgehogs that don't have flesh tone arms is Shadow and Silver and they're fucking weirdo designs who don't have belly patterns either.
>>342715736
I bet she'd behave herself well if you were to babysit her.
Yo can I come too?
Would you, /v/?
>>342718026
>But America only has to wait until July 22.
nah, japs getting cucked again
>>342726676
Yes because i love edgy girls, it's why i want a female reaper.
>>342726858
How about Eggwoman?
>>342727102
>not eggshaped
no
I'd like to point out two of the things Wentos The Traveling Salesman and Brenda from World Treasure Magazine have come true:
1. The game wont be launching until 2017
2. There would be some kind of Sonic v Eggman event during the anniversary (yesterday's twitter shenanigans)
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/336833958/
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/337725671/
These threads have the rest of their leaks if you think they're legit. The main things they reveal is;
1. The game may come first to NX first if Sonic Team like the hardware enough
2. Sonic and Eggman are the playable characters
3. Gameplay for Sonic is a hybrid between Adventure and the parkour of Lost World
4. Eggman's is similar to SA2 but refined
5. Wisps are back and even Eggman can use them (they upgrade his Walker ammo)
6. The game was actually scheduled for 2015 but has been delayed multiple times for polish
>>342726676
Eh, I'd rather femSilver
>>342727285
>Lost World parkour
>wisps again
Oh hell no, fuck that shit.
Fuck that shit forever.
>>342727807
you don't rike risps and Rost Rorldu?
>>342726676
>Boom Specter
>>342727807
Wisps will be in the game so long as Iizuka is still involved. Parkour was okay in concept, I just hope it's refined and not literally "press one button to do a dozen different things depending on context"
>>342721493
>the level design was pretty fucking great,
Every level was just a different textured series of floating platforms in the sky.
It has the weakest level design of the 3D games with only the first stage coming across as natural.
Egg Fleet and Final Fortress were alright because the design suited the theme.
However, killing <x> enemies with health bars to unlock a Switch to progress in a stage was fucking shit.
>>342727285
>Wisps are back
Boy, Iizuka really cannot get a fucking clue, can he? Nobody likes the wisps. All they did was reduce the gameplay to a back-to-back-to-back string of mini-games. Nobody wants to play mini-games in a supposed real game, especially not in a fast-paced platformer.
>>342721748
it's literally "play Power Formation 2 win" or get fucked with slippery movement.
>>342726419
Beautiful.
>>342730228
>>342727807
Iizuka needs to take a look at the new Kirby game's gimmick and realize that he needs to make the Wisps something fun to the gameplay than trying to be a minigame fiesta like the previous games they were in.
>>342721020 implying the people who talk so much about the series arent past their prime themselves
>>342719861
I like Sonic a lot but you're a faggot
>>342722826
>doesn't Star Wars main event, the movies, ignore the whole ocean of comics, game stories, books, cartoons
Actually, the UE was intentionally mostly kept in line with the movies before SWVII was a thing
Coruscant first appears in the UE, for example
New Sonic fighting game when?
>>342727745
> femsilver
that´s just regular silver with a penis
>>342731809
i want a Sonic Battle sequel
>>342731580
>>342731580
>resorts to ad hominem
how cute
Why is sonic on the internet an WW3 nazi holocaust of terrible cringe shit. Double standards. Showboating. Antagonism. And saying youre irrelevant preferences mean shit? as far as iam the fandom from all sides did an good job of ruining sonic for eveyone than sega did with 06. Nope. Not taking it back. Take an look at yourselves and every shittalker/cringefag around you and try to call yourselves partical and well reasoned. To someone the internet. They will refer to any of you as an tool.
>>342733281
>>342733281
is this the Youtube comment section?
>>342733281
good pasta
gonna save this for a shitposting thread for smash bros.
>>342733281
Oh yeah that's the good stuff. This is going in the pasta folder for sure.
>>342733281
Wtf am I reading?
>>342716889
but when you look at Sonic from t he side in 2D you wouldn't be able to see his arms
>>342726559
They didn't need flesh colored arms because they debuted in 3D games, so there would be no problem with not knowing where their arms are
>>342733281
and people say summer isn't real
>>342733281
The thing is, I KNOW what he was trying to say here and still, the longer I stare at It, the more I'm getting confused
>>342734116
If you can't identify his limbs from the side then clearly the design a failure.
>>342731809
Sometime between never and ever.Now post more Sonadow
>>342733281
this is brillant
>>342736730
delete this
>>342736730
dafuq man
>>342733281
marvelous!
alright chap, here's your one free (You)!
>>342736730
haha
>>342715736
>>342736730
>Sonadow
remove
>>342737543
What Sonic Universe is this?
>>342738126
The best I'm guessing.
>>342737543
Is there a Vanilla in this universe?
>>342737543
>>342738126
>>342738520
>>342738542
Don't worry, I was almost fooled too.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PTYTfs6.jpg "latest[1].png")
how come cream's ears are on backwards
>>342727285
For what it's worth, the official Sonic account on Facebook said to not believe their lies shortly after. Of course, what else would they say, but that.
>>342739357
Archie's designs have went to shit.
>>342727285
Wentos came out as being a fraud and just wanting to inspire hope in the franchise when it was in the shitter, the stuff he got right was coincedence.
>>342733281
I'm gonna give a (You) to fuck off!
started reading the comics just for the heck of it
wtf Shadow isn't nearly as edgy as he is in the games
Opinions?
>>342740406
They're OK in Colors, have long overstayed their welcome in the comics.
>>342740406
They're alright. I never really liked Eggman's henchmen throughout the franchise, but I'm okay with these guys.
>>342736730
>Sometime between never and ever.
So I'm gonna have to make it myself then.
>Now post more Sonadow
Sure, why not
>>342740406
Orbot was okay in Unleashed and both were fine in Colors DS, but they were annoying in Colors Wii and pointless in Lost World.
Also, Decoe and Bocoe were better.
>>342740271
That's what happens when you have a writer who realizes that Shadow doesn't need to be radiating angst 24/7.
>>342726531
Fucking Sega why did you get rid of Rouge's THICC?
>>342715182
>>342727285
Fuck off Brenda.
>>342742219
How did we go from "Great! Gokigen da ne!" ("Great! I'm in high spirits!") to "Ah, yeah! This is happenin'!"?
>>342742798
Somethin' buggin' you?
>>342716145
That's not Sally
