http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-considering-star-ocean-5-pc-port
Now I know this is technically old news, but one thing about this interview bothers the hell out of me:
>Kobayashi: “Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
How the fuck is it possible to be this disconnected from an entire userbase of potential customers?
A good company always looks to expand its list of clients. How is it possible to not know something this fundamental, going in to an interview like this?
Microsoft, one of the biggest technology companies on Earth, makes controllers like this exclusively FOR the PC (https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Xbox-One-Wired-Controller-+-Cable-for-Windows/productID.307070800).
And at some point this mongoloid hasn't realize that this is a thing yet?
It baffles me how someone so high up in a corporation can not know something this basic.
I notice on a lot of steam forums poorfag third-worlders chimping out when a game doesn't support keyboard very well and people tell them just to use their controller.
>"wuh??? not everyone has a controller cyka blyat!"
>>342705127
Really? If you can afford a PC you can afford a fucking controller too.
>>342704832
>Japs are retarded
more news at 11
>>342705806
Yeah but you'd think corporate greed would nudge them a little higher up the ladder than this, right?
Do they not want to make money?
>>342704832
>hurrr controllers
Keyboard and mouse are superior ANYWAY, you cannot control a camera with the degree of precision of a mouse, it's a fucking fact, it's not a fucking matter of ifs or buts, it's a matter of not being a fucking tech illiterate like this "developer", they are unprofessional fucks, they can keep their weeb shit on consoles for all I care.
>japan
>technologically literate
Half of their IT force can't even send an email
>>342706720
That' can't be true?
>>342706158
That wasn't really the point I was trying to get across.
It was more what kind of cultural gap and lack of information there must be on their parts if PC-controllers is somehow news to them.
>>342704832
and now you realise why Japan is falling behind on every possible way...
>>342707498
Except that Japan is the highest peak of technological standards tho.
>>342707660
yeah and their economy isn't crashing at all.
>>342707263
Japs only use PCs for porn games. Not surprising they don't know about controllers being used on them.
>>342707880
Please, next u gonna try that bs about their birth rate to.
>>342706158
But can you control how fast your car accelerate?
Check mate kbmfag
>>342707660
Needs a purple filter and rain.
>>342707498
Except the medicine, technology and optimization of society. AKA the only ways that matter.
>>342708041
nah I was thinking to talk about their workload and sucide rate.
>>342704832
Not video games.
>>342708336
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
BTFO
>>342708464
>giving wikipedia as a realiable source
>not noticing how Japan is the first industralized nation on this list (Russia doesn't count)
stay mad weeb.
>>342708291
>http://www.gizmag.com/supercomputer-china-taihulight-processor-petaflops/43982/
wrong nation
>>342708627
>Russia doesn't count
>b-because I said so!
>>342704832
>“Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
it surprises me that people do this too. people should only use kb/m on desk, controller on couch. sitting with a gamepad on your desk 30 inches away from the screen all hunched over is just goofy as fuck
>>342708970
What if I have a recliner in front of my PC? Though that's probably even more goofy.
>>342708756
>implying Russia is a world power.
>being THIS delusional
Russia isn't relevant anymore. they're being cucked by FUCKING TURKEY with those soldiers kill
>>342708970
>gamepad on the desk
who the fuck does this?
>considering
>>342709213
pcucks
>>342708464
>Guyana is 15.3 higher than the second country
>first in both male and female
Why is Guyana so high? No other South American country is that high.
>About 40% of people who commit suicide in Guyana poison themselves by consuming agricultural pesticides.
Can't even kill themselves correctly.
>>342709386
shitloads of cults too
>>342709386
I would conteply suicide too if I lived on a third world shithole. Or in Japan as a japanese.
>>342709239
Rockstar considered putting GTA5 on PC too.
Japs are retarded xenophobes, what else is new?
>>342704832
>It baffles me how someone so high up in a corporation can not know something this basic.
Seniority doesn't mean you actually know what the fuck you're doing, often it just means you stuck around long enough
you people are fucking retarded
most people who play on PC dont have controllers
releasing a game on PC that REQUIRES a controller is suicide
>>342709849
Yeah but what I think OP means is how can you possibly stick around in the video game industry for so long and not accidentally notice that people are connecting controllers to their PCs.
>>342708059
This is a problem. Perfect input method is a mouse with one of those logitech keypads with the stick for your thumb. You get accurate mouse control, analogue movement with your thumb, and access to a ton of buttons (significantly more than on a controller). They have alt functions as well so you'll have at least as many within reach as on a regular keyboard without weird stretching to the V or Z keys. Check it out if you can afford it, I think Razer does a similar one but Logitech is less likely to break on you.
>>342706158
who gives a shit i want to play from my couch in various comfy positions while i cuddle with my qt gf and she rubs my head
keyboard gets in the way of that
>>342710741
>keyboard gets in the way
epic meme
>>342709874
>releasing a game on PC that REQUIRES a controller is suicide
> Dark Souls
>>342711484
It doesn't.
>>342711551
The first game is barely playable with a keyboard. It doesn't even have keyboard prompts ingame. A game like star ocean would work even better with a keyboard
Ok, real talk but what games/genre that a controller is superior to m+kb?
>>342711850
Only games that require precise analog movement
>>342711850
GTA driving, piloting those stupid RC planes and planes. Fucking fuck mk+b wrecked my hand on that segment.
>>342711850
mirror's edge
>>342711850
Action games, basically things where precise movement is needed. If precise aiming or "action speed" is needed for things like RTS then mouse is superior.
Platformers and action games like Souls, Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden etc work significantly better on gamepad to the point where they're not worth playing if you don't have access to one. They're arguably better for long turn-based RPGs too since they're less straining on your hands over long periods of time (more ergonomic and comfy since you can lean back and play on the sofa).
>>342711692
Yet it is playable.
>>342712953
And so would be star ocean. Better even
>>342704832
Japan has a hard time understanding the PC market, who knows.
Tales made the jump to PC and somehow that didn't ring any bells for these guys, you'd think with games like the Souls series also being huge on PC that they'd put 2 and 2 together but nope, amazing.I hear SO is a really short game but I'd still get it on PC if they released it.
>>342713062
Never said it wouldn't.
>How the fuck is it possible to be this disconnected from an entire userbase of potential customers?
He probably tried to find a reason as fast as possible to answer the question.
>>342712953
>playable
This is the key.
>>342715449
And this was the best he could come up with? I'd rather he just say "we don't know?", than this stupid shit.
At least that would make them appear unknowing but curious. The given answer makes the come across as retarded.
>>342713425
>Japan has a hard time understanding the PC market, who knows.
This desu.
>>342709151
>they're being cucked by FUCKING TURKEY
t. turkroach
>>342706043
The Japanese have shitty, antiquated business customs. They'd never bother learning something new.
>>342704832
>PC fags go on and on about KB+M nonstop
>Japanese dev who is from a country that doesn't care about PC is under the impression that people use KB+M primarily and don't care about controllers
>OHMYGURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>342722057
I think OPs point is that they should know better.
They can shove their heads as deep as they want in the sand, but no business should ever turn away a potential paying customer.
>>342722424
Japan only cares about Japan. People in Japan don't care about PC.
>>342722614
Corporations only care about money. Money is not exclusive to Japan.
Do you honestly think that the mid-age suits in a board room care more about silly platform wars than their retirement funds and legacies?
>>342722614
Take a look at 2chan, they're starting to get interested on PC gaming and even FPSs.
Mainly because the PS4 is a piece of shit.
>>342723424
There's always been PC discussion on 2chan because only neets use it.
>>342704832
You have to understand that PC is not really a gaming market in Japan. PCs are for work and visual novel shit for them. Hell consoles are not even as popular as you would think because most Japanese are never home to enjoy them which is why handheld is so dominant over there. It's a society thing basically.
>>342723808
This.
There are so many "muh PC" fags and Sonyggers in hard denial ITT.
None of you two groups understand. You're not losing to each other, you're losing to this thing.
PC = irrelevant.
>>342705127
I have a controller. And I don't use it. I feel much more comfortable using KB+M.
>>342726395
Many people do. But it's not unheard of have a Xbox controller for your PC.
And video game developers should know this.
>>342724269
In denial?
I don't see how pointing out how retarded this dev is is somehow making anyone ITT in denial.
>implying I care I about mobile games
I am quite content with my niche PC gayums anon
>Why does a zipper head working on a Japanese video game with a Japanese studio from a Japanese publisher for the Japanese audience that don't give a shit about PC not understand my needs?!
>DO THEY HAVE MONEY?! THEY MUST HAVE MONEY!!
>>342727212
Sonyggers are always up in arms about PC and "NEVER EVER", and PCfats are always bitching about NOG4EMS. They don't realize that the real thread are cellphones.
Japs spend so much time traveling too and from work, that anything that can fill that time is much better for them than anything they can do at home.
>>342727365
A corporation is solely about making money. It's not about appealing to some weird national-based audience, or sating console-warfags. It's about making money.
And in that light it's retarded to see so many Japs not acknowledge the place where the most money is made.
>>342727687
They don't care.
It's as simple as that, Kotick. Do you own shares in Square Enix or something?
>>342728176
>They don't care.
And that's the reason cellphones are the new gaming platforms.
Enjoy Breath of Fire 6.
>>342728308
>And that's the reason cellphones are the new gaming platforms.
Cellphones are the new gaming platform because they generate an absurd amount of revenue.
You can keep crying about MUH PC SALES, but the zipper heads obviously tapped into a market far more valuable than any baka gaijin complains about.
I haven't played a Japanese game in forever, so guess what, I don't care either. I won't be enjoying BoF6
