Why is this game such shit? How can they fuck up such a straightforward concept? They made it into a generic Halo/Metroid-esque shooter with bs collectathon upgrade garbage.
Shameful.
>>342680051
just played the demo and I found it to be pretty fun, probably another story when you paid for it
I don't think you've played any of those games you mentioned, let alone any of the Doom games
having different firemodes and upgrade options is neat, and cycling for weapon skills like stun or the ion cannon adds a great layer to the gameplay
love the hellfire rockets, what boring fuck takes the other option?
>>342680754
I don't think you have, kid. Halo has the sci fi motif and Metroid has the finding where to go and collecting new items sort of crap. Plus the Doom guy suit is exactly like Samus's suit. Original Doom was nothing like that
Here's your (you), overwatch fan.
>>342680051
>but there aren't any muh underage waifus here what the FUCK THIS GAME IS DOG SHIT REFUNDED REEEEEEEEEEE
>>342680051
because its marketed to the 15-20 year old dudebro crowd that thinks its special for not playing call of duty, despite playing shovelware trash like neo-id games and battlefield
the retards that actually praise shit like this are the same casuals who prefer brutal doom over vanilla or any other modification of doom, the opinion of these "so retro xDDD" people is worth less than dirt, you should just ignore them completely.
Because its made for consoles and babies
>>342680989
So.your problem not about game but MC?
>Hurrr durr no one can have suit except my waifu hurrrr hurrrrr
Fuck off will ya ?
>>342681328
>dudebro crowd that thinks its special for not playing call of duty
>>342681171
>haha i bet u like anime retard
>>342681012
>haha i bet u like overwatch retard
You hit the nail on the head.
>>342681524
why are nonwhites with broken english allowed to post on /v/
you people are fucking disgusting
>>342681524
How are you this stupid to not realize how they fucked up the Doom series? Even Doom 3 was better
>>342681723
You're a faggot who needs to be brutally raped in public with 2 or 3 cacti that have been dipped in kerosene and lit on fire.
>>342680051
Uninspired level design is the crux of it, but I can't say too much as I've only played the demo.
Played Doom 1 afterwards and had much more fun.
>>342681723
What's wrong with it?
The gameplay is slowed down, but it's still fairly fast, especially by modern standards. The finishing move animation are pretty quick give you i-frames. It keeps gameplay moving as well. it's not like in other games where the finishing moves take forever and only slow things down.
And the RPG elements are inoffensive, and basically optional. The gun upgrades were definitely a good addition, it gave you way more toys to play with.
I think for the year 2016 this was the best version of DOOM we were going to realistically get.
>>342681328
How the Fuck can you create a fps anything like the old doom series? People these days expect some le ebin story and graphics with their mediocre game play. At least this new doom is fun to play and the upgrades keep you playing.
>>342681723
get gunned down in the street like the degenerate you are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIfWmriQR1s
Whats /v/'s take on Nu-Male Hop review?
>D44m has content, I hate it!
>>342680051
>They made it into a generic Halo/Metroid-esque shooter
It's nothing like those games.
There's a button when you pause, it's titled "Restart Mission". Want to know what that is for? It's for restarting whenever you die, so you can play it legit — it's been a feature in games for decades and when a game has it, you can usually tell when each level seems designed for it, just like this DOOM. Play on the hardest setting and do that, you will be thoroughly challenged and will have a blast.
You can do the same in Halo too, and make those games insanely challenging and fun. But I'm sure you're too casual for it.
>>342682405
I just feel like they made the levels a lot more convoluted to navigate and the platforming type shit makes it even worse, because they expect you to jump around the fucking place to find where to go rather than just go through different doors or find hidden doors in walls. They just made the whole atmosphere a lot more confusing and a lot less fun. Even killing the monsters isn't satisfying much at all
>>342682452
>the upgrades keep you playing
nuke this fucking generation
leave nothing but dust
>>342682780
Are you just dumb? The levels aren't confusing at all, way simpler than original DOOM even. The game gives you a compass and a 3D map. You would have to be a literal retard to not get it.
>>342682452
>and the upgrades keep you playing.
you are literally everything wrong with video games
>>342681328
This is actually really well said
>>342683204
No its not. Did you miss the phrase "so retro xDDD"?
>>342680051
>halo
>metroid
>nu-doom
>being anywhere in the same galaxy of games
what the fuck
have you ever played a video game
do you need an adult
>>342683102
Yea a 3D map that doesn't work well for shit. There are different layers of each level and it is convoluted as fuck to figure out how to just advance to the next part. Sometimes I'm right above where I'm supposed to go and have no clue how to descend. This type of shit makes me want to quit because its so unnecessary
>>342682256
The level design gets more complicated, but not any bit more inspired.
Theres basically 3 arenas.
Dusty outdoors arena, indoor corridor arena, and hell with rocks arena.
you do weave and teleport and climb around the more you get into the stages, but they aren't varied at all.
>>342682780
killing the monsters actually does stop being satisfying, and you eventually start wishing they would add more monsters to the arenas. Cranking up the difficulty only makes them hit harder, makes pickups give you less, etc, it doesnt actually change the script and spawn order of the monsters, which is disappointing.
i feel like the powerups and the upgrades and the collectibles made me get distracted from the largely superficial "action" segments, which are also very clearly marked. You know as you walk into a room if its going to be a shoot room or a jump around like a fucking retard room, with the shoot rooms eventually turning into the jump like a retard to find the secrets room.
i would have preferred just a constant stream of enemies, more enemies all over the place, or more interaction with the stage.
sad to say but a game like Bulletstorm got it right
>>342681723
>Even Doom 3 was better
you are going beyond the pale of shitposting.
Dont go too far anon, no-one knows what eldritch beasts lie that far in.
>>342683402
if you don't see the similarity with Metroid (starting with the fucking front cover) then I think you're a down syndrome baby. I don't know how people can be this dumb..
>>342683465
you're actually pretty dumb, but thats ok! some people are more simple than others, some people dont think as hard.
now, its time to grow up just a little bit and realize that just because you're a bit slow the rest of the world doesnt have to be. Nobody hates you for going at your own pace, just dont purposefully slow other people down.
>>342683681
I just read through the rest of the thread.
disregard all my comments OP, this is the absolute best troll thread i have ever seen, 10/10 im impressed
>>342683465
Nigga you just retarded. You can you call people dumb when you get lost on a game focus tested so that 12 year olds can beat it?
How do you figure out how to get out of bed? Does mom tie your shoes?
>>342683596
Whats wrong with Doom 3?
>>342683595
Yea I'm glad someone else gets it. That jumping around like a retard shit is ridiculous. Shouldn't be in Doom at all.
>>342683931
>Whats wrong with Doom 3?
regardless of quality compared to other games, its the weakest entry in the doom series.
>>342683827
Fuck off with your projections. I didn't ask the "worlds" input for shit
>>342683926
Doom was a simple game retard. All that unnecessary faux-"challenge""""" added to the game is absurd. You don't get fucking shit do you? Do you even speak English?
>>342684104
The worst game in the series is Doom SNES
>>342684104
People love to say its weak or it sucks or is nothing like real Doom, but never explains anything. What the hell is wrong with it? Its similar to Doom 64 which also blows away this new """"""""""DOOOM""""". More like penguin of doom.
>>342680051
Doom 1 was the quintessential Halo/Metroid-esque shooter.
>>342684291
the worst thing about being a dumb person is that the dumb person knows he's dumb, he knows other people know he's dumb, but because he is dumb he will pretend like he is not dumb, making him even dumber.
>>342684447
>old proper doom
-fast paced
-visceral
-interesting levels built for exploration
>doom 3
-slow
-wants to be a horror game
-dark corridors
>new doom
-fast paced
-visceral
-interesting levels built for exploration
literally spewing verbal diarrhea
>>342684532
I think you forgot to take your meds
>being this dramatic over a video game
>>342685124
This is a new level of shit posting. Superficially it seems like an actual post, but when you stop and think about what this man is writing it is completely incoherent nonsense.
>>342684291
id's original levels were complicated as hell. Fuck off.
>>342683194
You only own an xbox one I'm guessing
>>342684447
Its slow, its boring, its repetitive, and its trying to be a horror game.
I just got it and am having a blast.
>>342685495
At least they were all interconnected tho. You didn't have to take leaps of faith to know where the fuck to go
>>342685358
>man
>>342685593
Doom is a horror game
I hate nostalgiafags.
>>342686096
The original? Fuck no.
It's fun aside from having to do the collectathon to get upgrades
>>342685732
I know you're just fuckin around. Nobody is actually this dumb.
>>342686224
wut? are you retarded? or just never played Doom before?
>>342686480
We may have different definitions of horror then.
>>342683931
Doom 3 is slow as fuck compared to D44M
I've played both.
>>342686851
>D44M
kek
>>342682745
One comment sums it up pretty well
>I am an anal completist and that is a flaw of the game
You get enough upgrades just by killing enemies, since that gives you more upgrade points than secrets does
>>342684447
>Its similar to Doom 64
Not one fucking bit. Doom is literally PC doom with different graphics. The physics is the same, the weapons is the same outside of 1 new weapon, some monsters are made tougher just for the fuck of it
>arachnotrons have 2 plasma guns now
>pain elementals have 2 mouths
>all this for a console game
![843462-doom-windows-screenshot-the-3d-automap[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8JlQjOU.jpg "843462-doom-windows-screenshot-the-3d-automap[1].jpg")
>>342685495
>Foundry in doom 4
>open automap
>level looks just as convoluted as your pic related
It made me happy to see in a 2016 AAA game.
>>342683204
what the fuck it was a spaghetti mess of buzzwords.
>>342682745
He complains that finding secrets is boring because youre just looking around the empty map.
Well, how the fuck else is a game supposed to do secrets? How is it secret if its handed to you during regular gameplay?
Its how the original Doom does it, its even how Metroid Prime does it
Pretty dumb review desu
>>342687360
>The physics is the same, the weapons is the same outside of 1 new weapon,
Nah it isn't the same at all. Feels more like COD than a Doom game
>Metroid Prime, "The Ultimate first-person adventure." -Sakamoto, getting more acknowledgement
what's wrong with this?
>>342686128
t. underage
>>342687757
What? How the fuck? Where is the sprinting and ADS and regenerating health? Why are only a couple enemies hitscanners? Why can you carry more than 2 guns?
Even if you think I'm talking about Doom 4 and not Doom 64 you're still wrong (outside of D44MP which I agree is garbage)
>>342682745
>complains about flavor text messing with the pace of the game
>not realizing the entire fucking purpose of flavor text is that you don't have to read it if you don't want to
>I-I just HAD to read it because it said to on my screen!
People these days have no fucking will or self control, it's sickening
>>342687946
Well memed, nostalgiafag cancer killing video games. Any more supreme memes you'd like to share?
>>342687962
Well the cross hair thing is for casual COD players for one thing, and how under powered the weapons are, and auto aim also doesn't help it from being shit
>>342688150
>and how under powered the weapons are
COD weapons kill enemies in 2 shots, or fucking less. And theyre automatic rifles. Doom 4 not being like that makes it actually the opposite of underpowered
Even then I disagree. Blazing through Nightmare with the super shotty just fucking everything up
Even the regular shotgun can instagib imps and 2-shot the plasma gun commandos, how much more power does it need?
>>342688146
>nostalgiafag cancer killing video games
t. Color Splash/Ryse of War pre-orderer.
>>342688150
>and how under powered the weapons are
I feel like the weapons are over-powered desu
Is singleplayer worth it with 40% discount? I played multiplier beta and it's trash, then I played demo but it was too short, but felt like a step in right direction
>>342688150
> and auto aim also doesn't help it from being shit
Classic doom had far more auto aim than doom 4 does
Even still that post is about Doom 64 you fucking shitter, in reply to a post saying Doom 3 was similar to Doom 64, learn some reading comprehension
>>342688454
yes
>>342688150
You can turn off the cross hair and auto aim in the settings if it bothers you that much
>>342688454
It's pretty fun but a playthrough is only ~8 hours. It's probably worth it if you plan on playing it multiple times.
mfw i just finished with some multiplayer and it's hilarious fun
![9TDar7M[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1ootBwI.png "9TDar7M[1].png")
>>342688454
I'm 14 hours in and still only on level 9 (on nightmare), I think it's worth the money so far, also the demo level is fucking terrible compared to the rest of the game, they really should have made the demo level one of the later ones
>>342688454
Yes. Maps have secrets, replayability. Ultra-Nightmare is a pretty cool difficulty mode
>>342680051
>They made it into a generic Halo/Metroid-esque shooter
Neither is for PC maybe except for first Halo, so i welcome the addition.
>>342688343
Well it gets pretty boring just unloading into some of these enemies and it feels like you don't even do any damage
>>342688548
Learn English you fuck. Stay on topic to Doom 4
>>342688871
>Learn English you fuck. Stay on topic to Doom 4
Way to ignore the first part of the post
>>342688871
>Well it gets pretty boring just unloading into some of these enemies and it feels like you don't even do any damage
You kill larger enemies faster than classic doom.
>>342689001
how the fuck does original doom have auto aim? You dont really aim at anything do you?
>>342689151
If you actually played it you'd fucking see
You get autoaim infinitely on the y-axis, and you have a 12 degree cone of horizontal auto aim
>>342689151
OG doom doesn't have auto aim, but it does have bullet magnetism.
>>342680051
lets not get ahead of ourselves anon, it was no where near as bad as halo
>>342689430
Pre-reach Halo was a solid 7/10
>>342689430
but it ripped off Halo, therefore its worse
the suit, the weapon physics, the sci fi theme, and the addition of robots
>>342689694
The 3 hours I put into Halo 3 were hell on earth
>>342689731
What robots were in halo?
Also he's not a robot, he's a cyborg, his brain is still human, this is the same premise as a Cyberdemon
>>342689694
this is the neo doom audience btw
>>342689731
Another thing is platforming should not be in a fucking doom game. Or double jumps for that matter
>>342689920
Same sci-fi tech babble bullshit tho
>>342690001
Name one game that wouldnt benefit from double jumping
>>342689996
I didn't like the new doom
>>342689808
>hell on earth
What do you mean by this? That could be really good or really bad depending on interpretation.
>>342689151
you can't aim up/down in first doom so if imp is on higher ground you just shoot under him to hit him
>>342690173
doom
>>342690345
you have to be able to jump in order to double jump
>>342680051
Don't think you have played doom before
>>342690262
>he didn't like the new doom
Are you a 12 year old stuck on your Nintendildo games?
>>342683595
>hard just gives you less
this is sad, ultraviolence in DOOM 1 and 2 just set everything to 11, more enemies and damage but also the highest spawn rate of ammo and health pickups
>>342690697
I've played original doom faggot. It was nothing like fucking Halo and Link to the Past or some shit like this modern """"Doom""""
>>342685732
there is a fair bit of "what the fuck did that switch do?" for a first time player when the level design got a bit sloppy in a few places
>>342691029
I only played the demo but it reminded me more of a bastardized Serious Sam than anything else
>>342690317
>>342689371
Well, you can enable mouselook and disable autoaim but things can get weird due to the engine. The majority of people first played it keyboard only.
to me freelook feels weird in doom
One thing I will say tho, those "ruins" or wehatever the fuck it is - the mode similar to GTA's Rampages where you have to shoot a bunch of enemies in a certain amouint of time.
That mode was really cool at least.
>>342680051
D44M is as bad as a John Oliver skit.
"IT'S 2016! COMMON PEOPLE!"
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KeaQAdR.png "latest[1].png")
yfw this level
KEEP RIPPING AND TEARING
Wish you died in the past that you live in, you 45 year old faggots.
>>342691763
Wow why are you youngins so bitter? I didn't attack you personally champ. Did you create this new D44M?
>>342688056
The logs are pretty good desu. I actually got pretty invested in the world.
>>342690915
Nightmare in the new game tweaks their AI a little. Enemies with projectiles lead with their shots far more often in Nightmare compared to Ultra Violence. They're also more aggressive overall.
>>342691852
Only i.may inspect the logs
>>342680051
you have shit taste op
>>342691394
Go play Painkiller demo and then play D44M demo.
They play almost identically minus QTE shit.
Coincidence? I think not.
>>342691394
>playing demos
you got dam slugs
>>342680051
best game in years, loving every second. Feels so fast and smooth,.
>>342692532
You have only tasted shit. How would you know what it doesn't taste like?
>>342692679
Painkiller and Serious Sam are both tons of enemies in big empty square rooms. Doom plays nothing like them. The concept is similar but the execution is completely different.
>>342692679
What QTE shit?
>>342691072
Yea but it was easy to figure out. On D44M it's overly convoluted for no reason
>>342693425
Underage shitters are confusing canned animations with QTEs.
It's still better than OW because you can actually decide what to play and when. OW you only play online with retards.
>>342682405
What game is that?
I wish Doom ran well enough on my computer to make a good judgement of it, but since AMD doesn't support 6990s with performance drivers anymore I'm stuck at minimum settings with a max of 25 FPS.
>>342680051
Are you fucking retarded? Jesus Christ mcfucking end yourself
>>342693493
>people who dont hold my opinions are underage
>>342693018
You never played Painkiller.
Stop lying.
>>342693748
>mcfucking
holy shit suck it youngin
>>342693493
>implying difference
>>342693616
>stealth is optional
sounds like Splinter Cell Chaos Theory xddd
ITT: NEETs who have never played the game because of Denovo
>>342682256
>uninspired level design
No. Fuck off. The level design is the best I've seen in any modern day FPS. You have multiple levels in each arena, you can walk any path around the arena, get to any level from almost any point, which allows you to move freely in any direction without it being flat and boring to avoid tough enemies when you're low on health and ammo or engage tough enemies when you want to get rid of them right away. You can move from point A in the arena to point B with multiple paths on different vertical levels to engage enemies or not to your choosing. There's no linearity in the design. It's entirely up to you and how you want to engage.
>>342693930
>>stealth is optional
I love these kinda games. It's great to just go commando and say fuck the rules once in awhile. I do that a lot on Hitman Absolution
>>342694073
>game has demo
>never play it
>>342694127
The level design would be 10x better without the points of no return and lockdown rooms every 2 minutes
>tfw rune trials reward you more time for pressing x to supermurderkillbrutalfinish
>>342694237
I say don't, the first level isn't much like the later ones. Once you get double jump the game picks up way more.
>>342694258
Meh. Original Doom had points of no return in the guise of levels anyway.
As far as I'm concerned the level design would be better as one big fucking level.
>>342694582
Is somebody playing this with a fucking trackpad?
>>342681723
>Even Doom 3 was better
You're honestly saying a game that tried to remove the fun action run and gun aspects of the series and replace it with "spooky scary horror" elements, slow combat, and boring corridor shooting with unnecessary story elements is a good thing?
>>342694669
...No, that's not at all what he meant.
He meant how there's doors that you can't go back through, so if you miss a secret you have to restart the level to find it. The worst part is there's no way to know if a door is a no return or not
In the original Doom you can know what you found before you exit the level so that's not the same shit in any way
>>342681328
Doom 4 is objectively the best in the series on just the sp game by itself. This is coming from someone who grew up playing doom 1+2 on DOS. If you disagree your nostalgia goggles must be on tight.
>>342694872
>The worst part is there's no way to know if a door is a no return or not
What are you retarded? Is this your first fucking time playing games?
You check your map, and you see where the objective marker is pointing. And then you just don't go there. Simple.
>>342694582
I found myself double jumping, going through teleporters, and jumping on jump pads every second of the combat arena lockdown sequences in the later levels since the level design is such a slog to move through at the pace you move
>>342680051
I agree. Just ignore the youngins, OP. They're crossposters from reddit or just have supremely low standards.
nuDoom is the biggest turd shat on Doom's legacy bar none. Video games are dead. Just stick to pre-00's CRPG's and rts's. much better off like I am. Things will just keep getting worse with the influx of all these underagers and retards.
>>342681328
you probably like doom 3 you fucking faggot
>>342683931
Doom 3 is the definition of generic slow bland shooter. That was a chore to finish. I want to replay doom 4 once vulkan is released.
>>342694989
Nah you've the the hype cock a little too deep up your ass I think there. Doom II crushes all other games in the series.
>>342694989
Gonna have to disagree, Doom 4 will never have the amount of fan content Doom got, even 25 years from now
If the OG Dooms had no addon maps I'd agree, but frankly the shit some people have put out for that game blow the original and Doom 4 out of the fucking water
No, Snapmap doesn't fucking count
>>342694989
Not even close. It's good, it's not better than the original Doom.
1>2>4>3
Anything else is objectively wrong.
>>342694826
at least it was trying something different and not pandering to halo-cod crowd. fuck off
It lies completely within the spirit of the original DOOM and is way better than DOOM 3 can hope to be. Awesome MC design (albeit a bit too similar to Master Chief), it's fast paced just like DOOM 1 was, the glory kills let you actually melee usefully, and all the demons you remember and miss from DOOM 1 are back and better than before. Samuel Hayden's appearances are sparse (rightfully so) and it draws back on the heavy story to focus on why the original was so good: endless ripping and tearing, and not much else.
>>342680051
>>342680989
>>342681328
>>342681723
>>342683681
>>342688150
Now fuck off
>>342695139
Plutonia is the best Doom desu
Doom 2 has half shitty maps
>>342694127
I don't know how you can't see that D44M is basically Rage 2: Bethesda Boogaloo.
There is nothing "Doom" about this game except the pandering. You might as well call it Not-Doom, because it's not Doom.
Once again, /v/ hates a game because it's popular.
The only fucking games you can discuss here are niche, unknown JRPGs. But even then, those games are starting to develop a shitposting brigade. Fuck this shit and fuck you cynical losers.
>>342686096
Wat. No it's not. It's closer to a cheesey 80s action film than horror
I agree the first doom (especially on DOS) was very atmospheric. Hardly a horror game tho unless you're one of those Christians who are scared of the boogieman devil
>>342695173
>Awesome MC design
Kill yourself
>>342695070
>Video games are dead
More like your taste is dead.
>>342695256
>classic doom
>not popular
you fucking what nigger
>>342681012
>if you don't like X, you must like Y
Fuck off
>>342694989
>Tedious bullet sponge enemies that aren't threatening, except on nightmare difficulty because they kill you in one or two hits
>The actually hard enemies (Barons of Hell) are just instakilled by chainsaws
This is a good game by your merit? You must have really bad opinions then.
>>342695256
>Wahhh not everyone has shit taste like me!! Why don't you like shit guyzz!!?
>>342695373
Not today, no
You're out of your mind if you think it has anywhere the near the amount of players as other games do right now
All the multiplayer ports combined can't even break 100 players during the day.
In the 90s, sure.
>>342695230
Final Doom is nothing but tryhard fan-map wanking.
Even Romero didn't care about it and made (E4) just to prove the point.
>>342695373
Oh it's popular, but only because of it's legacy. I doubt anyone here has actually played it and only spews out shit like "It's a good game" because they heard other anons say the same thing like they spew everything else they hear.
>>342695173
>Awesome MC design
He looks like more of a faggot than exposed biceps and abs Doomguy
>>342695373
Classic Doom has its detractors here
>>342695139
Doom 2 was worse than doom 1. Now I know you're talking out of your ass.
>>342695401
don't use the chainsaw then
it's really no different than using the BFG in the original doom, it's a "fuck this I don't want to fight" weapon
>>342695473
>tryhard fan-map wanking.
what the fuck does this sentence even mean
It was literally commissioned by id themselves
>>342695370
t. underage nuDoomer
>>342695456
That is exactly what I said
Thanks for memeing, friend
>>342695141
I said just the SP game. Do you think doom 1 had hundreds of mods a month after released?
SP game was better than doom 1 and 2
>>342695256
>D44M
>popular
http://steamcharts.com/app/379720
Even shitaku is calling D44M Bethesda biggest fuck you to the PC FPS community.
>>342695460
>a game has to have a very active player base at every second in order to be popular
>>342695619
Oh yeah, the site who's reviewer couldn't even fucking aim their gun at a still enemy?
>>342695652
To be popular right now, yes, it does
>>342695141
Sorry anon, but fan content mostly sucks dick anyway. And even the best stuff was based on the original.
Only reason Doom 4 isn't going to have as much original content is because it's just too much of an effort for people to make properly. As opposed to the original doom, you can't just quickly whip up a high quality well animated 3d mesh with decent textures in the speed that you can do for a mere sprite.
Doom was an amazing game for its time, and a classic, but let's not drag it through the mud here by putting it right next to things far better and far more fun to play.
>>342695556
Yes but with the BFG you still had to dodge and be aware of what you are fighting, its ammo is really rare and most importantly it doesn't lock you into an invulnerable kill animation.
>Just don't use this weapon because it makes the game too easy
Gee, doesn't that make it a bad game?
>>342695538
DOOM II has:
>more enemies
>super shotgun
>better more challenging levels
I think you're fucking brain dead kid.
>>342695619
It's still like the 20th most played Steam game ranked by concurrent users
At the end of the day pretty much nobody plays anything that isn't CS GO or Dota
>>342695242
are you actually retarded? its cool if you are, but I don't want to make fun of an actual handicapped person
>>342695242
Oh no you can jump!
It's not doom 1/10
>>342695362
To each their own I guess, I even have a poster of it up in my room
>>342680989
Next you're going to tell me Doom 3 was too dark and full of lazy monster spawns behind walls and classic Doom was nothing like that.
>>342680051
HEY GUYS!! LET'S MAKE A HALO-COD CLONE WITH QTE'S AND CALL IT DOOM
>>342695726
Same for the chainsaw. How else do you get up close? Just like the BFG to make it actually useful? If you fire the BFG from a distance you're just cucking yourself because you miss the real damage arcs, plus that actually would make it a safer weapon than the Doom 4 chainsaw
>its ammo is really rare
Not really, it's cells, which are fairly plentiful and also shared by the plasma gun
>>342695726
>its ammo is really rare
Unlike the chainsaw which can only kill 1 baron and that's it, while you usually get 1 or two of them in any encounter.
>>342695150
I love the original doom. But maybe you haven't played it as much as me. But I'm bored of it. It was fun as fuck back in the day, still fun now, but it's been the same game since the 90s. Doom 4 expands on doom. Adds more weapons. Demons don't just walk at you throwing fireballs. Better maps with verticality and amazing art design. Also doom 4 has much more repeatability, with the different upgrades and runes can completely alter the gameplay.
Seriously. I love doom 1, one of my fav games. But how can you say it's better than Doom 4. I get you like mods, but mods took years to be made. There is still hope for doom 4 (tho doubtful). It is only fair to base vanilla gameplay vs vanilla gameplay.
>>342695875
For 95% of the game, yes, it was nothing like that.
>>342695883
>QTE'S
Wrong game pal.
>>342695948
>There is still hope for doom 4 (tho doubtful)
>no mod tools
There is no hope.
>>342695460
There's probably at minimum a thousand unique players a day for Doom.
At 4am EST I can see roughly 75 players worldwide on Doomseeker, and that's WITH filters.
If you're going to be a lying faggot, then don't bother posting.
>>342695948
>Better maps with verticality and amazing art design. Also doom 4 has much more repeatability
Nice buzzwords
>>342695883
>HALO CLONE
What part of halo is this game cloning? The large outdoor environments? The vehicles? The two weapon limit? The enemy AI that doesn't just run directly at you, or (rarely) at each other.
Oh, maybe it's the auto-regenerating shields.
>>342695915
>How do you get up close?
You double jump around like a flailing retard.
>>342695918
Later on you get enough max ammo to be able to kill two Barons.
>>342695689
That was IGN, but nice try.
>>342695883
What's COD or Halo like it?
>>342696091
>There's probably at minimum a thousand unique players a day for Doom.
[citation needed]
I bet it's the opposite, it's mostly the same hundred or less people
Check at 5pm est and come back with the player count, it's not much higher
>>342696179
It was polygon actually, I got polygon and kotaku mixed up
>>342681723
>>342695152
This. I fucking hated when doom 3 was released. But looking back now (not that I ever played it too much), I can say that there was (and still are) a lot of people who will praise it. Maybe not all of these people are Doom 1-2 fans, but they're seeing something in that game that I've failed to see.
What I see with Doom 4 however, is a very very watered down version of halo-cod combo. I would buy any halo game for PC in a heartbeat (because I think halo is fun, but I don't want to play it on a console), but this game is just so fucking stupid. I get the singleplayer is "OK" (not sure if I'd like it), but for them to mess the multiplayer this badly?? This could've been a good game if they really wanted to try, but nope.
Heck I bet if it had even a tiny bit of Arena Shooter aspects to it (still less than Quake Live) there would have been players who enjoy this game. As it is, anyone playing this game online is like the enemies from Doom games... braindead zombie.
>>342695780
>>342695801
Not arguments.
>>34269575
Half assed enemies like brown cacodemons that shoot out lost souls
A game breaking shotgun that turns the game into ez mode
Also it is a fact Doom 1 had better maps, they spent a lot more time designing maps for the first game then trying to profit on the 2nd one
>>342696259
No citation needed.
You're a lying faggot.
Get lost.
>>342695996
One or two of the maps in Episode 2 or 3 were tedious as fuck to the point where they actually had to give you nightvision goggles in a Doom game. As for monster closets, Doom is basically that.
>>342695948
That's actually what I was basing it on. Just the Vanilla campaigns. When modding is taken into account I would have rated 2 higher than 1.
4, unfortunately has no modding. Which is an insane decision. I would have loved to see a Gameplay mod that just cuts out all the crap and ups the enemy count and keeps it constant.
>>342695948
>doom 4 has much more repeatability
lol
>>342696296
You're right it was Polygon, but apparently IGN also has an equally shitty reviewer.
>>342696302
>What I see with Doom 4 however, is something I never played
Fixed for you.
>>342696427
It does. Every playthrough of Doom1 and 2 are going to be exactly like you remembered it.
>>342680051
I grew up on the original DOOM and played all of them until this new one. DOOM 4 is literally the best single player fps campaign I have ever played, it modernized DOOM without making it casual, unless you are a normie who plays on anything but Nightmare the first playthrough.
The truth is DOOM that is the original 1 and 2 are big piles of shit compared to the levels of fps quality that DOOM 4 proved we could achieve. DOOM 1/2 is awful to play now, it's honestly just a boring piss easy dungeon crawler where even on the hardest difficulty all you have to do is strafe into cover and let out a shell everytime.
I mean this, DOOM 1/2 are classic, don't get me wrong, but it was time to move on, they aren't even that good by todays standards of game design, it's overly simplistic and was only amazing at the time because there was literally nothing like it and the idea of fighting through hell with no remorse was awesome.
And I just replayed DOOM 1/2 like 3 months ago, it's a great game, that has aged horrible and with compared to the new id games really shows it age and how people who complain about DOOM 4 probably haven't even played a anything but brutal doom. You guys are fucking retarded honestly.
Jump off the original Doom's dick, they were nothing more than first person dungeon crawlers with piss easy combat, it literally takes no skill to play it, it's garbage now.
![P83Rzfr[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cFDplbQ.png "P83Rzfr[1].png")
>>342696356
It's 4AM est, there's NO filters on, and it's only 76 players total
During the day, it won't be much more than 100 if at all
YOU'RE the lying faggot
>>342695948
I can tell you haven't played it as much as me because I carry it around on a fucking Sansa Clip Zip.
>pic not me
>>342696556
Cut the shit anon, all Doom games have fuck all replayability. Not like any RPG or strategy game, that's for sure.
Everyone complaining has never played it cause they are piratefags.
>>342696609
I didn't lie about anything.
You lied.
Get out already, you waste of fetus.
>>342696098
Except Doom 4 maps have a lot of verticality that allows you to move more freely
Why do people act like the most important of classic Doom was the blood and brutality even though it's not really super brutal or bloody, I cared about the big guns and memorable level design more.
>>342696642
>I have no counterargument, so instead I throw petty reductive insults
>>342696642
>never played it
>open beta multiplayer
>demo singleplayer
>>342696591
>The truth is DOOM that is the original 1 and 2 are big piles of shit compared to the levels of fps quality that DOOM 4 proved we could achieve. DOOM 1/2 is awful to play now, it's honestly just a boring piss easy dungeon crawler where even on the hardest difficulty all you have to do is strafe into cover and let out a shell everytime.
Try better mapsets like Scythe or Back to Saturn X
Most diehard classic Doom fans agree that the vanilla maps aren't that great, but the gameplay potential was able to make the game shine
Doom 4 has a lot of gameplay potential but unlike the original has no functionality for truly custom maps (SnapMap maps are garbage, the only thing cool is the scripting/logic editor, but making an actual regular ass level to play? Sucks ass) so it will never be reached as OG Doom's had with later mapsets
I'm tempted on getting this game, but fuck man I'm almost inclined NOT to get it because I heard so much shit about the multiplayer and how absolute garbage it is... Doom isn't fucking Doom without the bomb ass multiplayer
>>342696712
What did I lie about?? I just fucking showed you a picture, you said it had 75 players with filters on, I showed you it's 75 with none on
>>342696772
>Why do people act like the most important of classic Doom was the blood and brutality
That's not the fans, it's the redditors ITT and Bethesda
>>342696772
>even though it's not really super brutal or bloody
Not compared to today's standards, but back then man, no videogames had these kinds of things. It was fucking amazing.
>>342696591(You)
>>342696782
Who gives a fuck about mods honestly? If you are going to judge a game you judge it by it's base content. I don't give a fuck about what NEET made in his basement like it elevates the original games past their mundane mechanics and piss easy combat. Seriously man, come the fuck on.
>>342696806
Multiplayer is absolute garbage.
Singleplayer is "playable".
![Screenshot_Doom_20140930_214018[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/2uZNMlP.png "Screenshot_Doom_20140930_214018[1].png")
>>342696885
It does though. Try one for fuck's sakes instead of making assumptions.
>>342696489
>no way to play with pirate
>implying I would want to pay for a game I would not like
>implying people can't do research from watching multiple different people give their 2cents on the game while I also watch the gameplay
So basically just like buying electronics (or camera equipment) online, you can do some research. First hand experience surely helps but is becoming less and less possible when not even games have GOOD demos anymore.
At least with shareware era, the demo was usually better than the game itself... LOL
>>342696867
>no argument
>heh i'll just send him a (you) that'll show em!
>>342696806
DOOM never had a great multiplayer, are you fucking 12? The original DOOM had only the DOS servers that barely worked half the time and was boring. You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>342696782
This is a fair issue with the game. The lack of mod support really detracts from players ability to replay and create and build on a legacy like the original doom to make interesting, memorable maps.
>>342696885
>their mundane mechanics and piss easy combat. Seriously man, come the fuck on.
>t. underager who's never played original Doom
>>342696776
Multiplayer isn't why you should be playing the game, and it's completely different from the Story mode
>>342696840
Why are you parrotting what I already said?
You claimed Doom can't break 100 players during the day.
If you have Doomseeker installed you know that's false.
You also have no fucking grasp of what "unique player" constitutes.
Fuck off, you illiterate waste of fetus.
>>342696964
Judge the games you are comparing it too based on the original fucking design and content. Modding doom is also fucking easy because the maps are beyond simple to make due to the tools and the level of our technology now. I truly don't give a fuck about mods and playing one of the WADs wouldn't make me change my mind on the quality of the original dooms.
>>342696885
The fact is NEETs made in their basements shit with way more design thought and gameplay consideration than the original levels and yes, even Doom 4's levels have
I'm not even talking about mods, I'm talking purely map sets
>>342696978
>Doom never had great multiplayer
>>342697012
>Multiplayer isn't why you should be playing the game
No buy then. Then it's just flavor of the month shit that won't be remembered in a year. But y'know what? Original Doom is. And is still played and modded for today.
>>342696642
>buy it
>enjoy it
>can still find things to complain about
>hurr durr ur salty pirate
>[le grape fox.png uploaded]
>>342697053
But I do have doomseeker installed, that's how I know it's not false, I've fucking checked it, because I play it a lot
Duel me right now, pick a port, I'll waste your cocky ass
>>342697002
Are you implying that the combat isn't braindead? I mean seriously enemies can't even catch you, you just strafe around them and even revenants or other ranged enemies get stomped by simply strafing behind cover and pumping a shell into them. There's no verticality to the aiming, nothing, there's no skill involved, it's almost like an rpg in a combat sense.
>>342696776
>demo singleplayer
What does this have?
>>342697069
>Judge the games you are comparing it too based on the original fucking design and content.
Why?
>>342697139
Fuck off then, nobody's gonna give you a paragraph on why it's good on a damn silver platter. Google it. /v/ isn't a bunch of monkeys that live to recommend you games
>>342697129
It didn't back then it was a nuisance to even find a server and set up the connectivity, and when you got in it it was a deathmatch game on small ass maps with again no skill involved. It was cool for the time because it was online and that was a new thing, but really? Great multiplayer?
>>342696982
Nah, it says more about the people though.
>Modern Faerarris suck because I can't just use regular tools like I used to to make the car better
>>342697069
>I truly don't give a fuck about mods and playing one of the WADs wouldn't make me change my mind on the quality of the original dooms.
You don't know that.
People could make great maps for Doom 4, but they can't, because there isn't and will never be tools for it, therefore the game will never be as good as OG Doom with fan maps
>>342696636
Ok. Then tell me how it is different on each playthrough. Same weapons, same items, same enemies, in the same locations. The AI just walks at you, so no variation there. I love Doom 1+2, but you can't lie to me and say it has amazing replay-ability. Not including all the mods, I have to say Doom 4 is more replayable. Theyre both fun, but Doom 4 is the better game objectively.
You can still a shit opinion and hold on to your fading memories.
>>342697254
Because games like Skyrim will always be fucking trash even without mods, why would I install a mod and then pretend that this somehow elevated the base experience for a game and thus change my opinion on said game because of it? Only a retard would compare games based on mods.
ORIGINAL CONTENT retard, what the devs created is what it's judged on.
>>342680051
Don't collect shit on doom. Just play the game fast. Rip and tear. You get more skill points from ripping and tearing than you do from finding secrets.
Have low hp, and cycle through your weapons to spend as much ammo as you can. Once you run out, chainsaw someone to start the cycle again. High Risk, High reward, fast paced gameplay that encourages creativity. Ignore the press tab to read codex bullshit. Just kill shit and and play on ultra nightmare. Enemies have less HP on the higher difficulties.
>>342696302
As always, the D44M shitposters are poorfags that didn't play the game. If you can't afford this game, just kill yourself already.
>>342697415
We're not talking about Skyrim, we're talking about Doom.
You'd do it because it results in a fun ass game, more fun than Doom 4 ever can be, because the maps are shit.
