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why do people like dragons dogma dark arisen
its kind of shit
but i want to like it
did everyone just lame it out with overpowered pawn friends?
>>342649929
>because it is a good game
>okay it was kinda shit here and there
>k
>no, would keep pawns 10 levels below me if they looked good and were functional
>>342649929
I always hate playing the beginning of the game because you're some shit pleb walking around in rags with a rusted weapon. The game picks up in term of gameplayfunafter the first few hours. Pretty lack luster spells and abilities at the start. I'd recommend not playing a mage character just because I think the melee/bow gameplay is more polished.
>spells in skyrim/DD.webm
>>342649929
same here.
everyone likes it, but i just cant get into it.
tried it 3 times, played everytiem a little longe hoping it will get good. it just feels like a standard jap fantasy rpg to me. nothing rly special.
>>342650270
what did you find was the most useful type of pawn?
>>342650724
i havent booted it up in awhile, but i think i picked whatever was like a thief class
ive only gotten to the first major local, with the dude who wants a wake stone in it
>>342650823
Then stop trying to "get into it" and move on to something that interests you.
>>342649929
/v/ loves to overrate clunky Japanese games that are considered just okay by the rest of the industry.
I just started playing, hope it will be fun.
Turned off lots on the display, so i've only got minimap and health/stamina on.
Any other tips to have fun with this?
Can I play through the game without doing sidequests or do i need the exp?
start on hard mode if you want a challenge, it's fun overcoming the crappy initial scaling when you eventually get to the point of being able to wipe everything
I pirated it so I never got to share my pawn or play with others', but I still had a lot of fun with the system
>>342651235
>Can I play through the game without doing sidequests or do i need the exp?
All I know is they're "timed", but I don't know if it's worth doing them all outside completionism
http://psnprofiles.com/guide/1630-Dragons-Dogma-The-Hero-Guide to get an idea
>>342651235
There are some really good side quests, some that that if not done will lock out some areas, and some aren't really necessary. Have fun figuring out which!
>>342651124
>/v/ hivemind
Not really why you want to shit on a game for being original and having actually brought something new to the genre
Why is jewtits the best waifu
>>342651816
>Have fun figuring out which!
does anyone actually figure this kind of shit out without using a guide?
>>342652753
Just do them before doing quests that are related to the main plot.Have fun figuring this out!DD is my favorite game, but this is kinda stupid, though sometimes the game warns you about advancing the main plot
>>342651816
>>342652753
>>342652982
Let's say I wanted to do main quest only on my first character, will i be rekt late-game since i may be missing some levels from ignoring sidequests?
>>342653790
what are we seeing here
>>342652982
i guess i mean its very japanese, and you can tell it was designed to sell guides
from what i can tell, a guide is released when a game comes out and later a "perfect" or "complete" guide after its been out for awhile
>tfw went to sleep in the second area (fort place)
>no notice i was going in to next event
>force quit the game and re load
>>342653501
If you still explore the map on your own you should be fine.
But you really should do all the missions concerning the witch wood.
because its not very popular.
>>342654087
Thanks anon, i'll look out for that
>there will never be a DD2 that actually is finished and fully polished and looks good on PC
Fuck you for reminding me, OP.
>>342653501
Not necessarily, provided you keep up with your gear.
Also, most quest boards, especially the encampment's board, have hunting/extermination quests, so you can pick those up, and grab extra gold and gear just for killing regular monsters while you play.
That said, DD has a lot more to do than just the main quest. There's a decent amount to explore/murder, so I'd encourage you to wander and try a few sidequests. It really gave me a sense of adventure on my first playthrough.
>>342654036
Nothing. Some try to paint DD as a financial failure, and we will never know the exact figures, but we know that DD sold in a way that pleased Capcom. Which means a lot. We also know that Capcom is "really satisfied" with the pc release.
>>342649929
I would have more fun if it had some form of fast travel.
But fuck running around all slow sucks
>>342654395
Faggot
>>342654395
there is fast travel, but i dont even know how to get it. also i think its single use? i dont know. someone who played help me. i dont want to run from fish village to the place that might be some kind of capital again
>>342649929
I think ive played this game over a 1000 hours across the ps3 and and pc combined
Very few games come out that are as fun as this
>>342654395
>If it had some sort of fast travel
You fucking got me because I used to have to correct people who sincerely believed this
>trying to shill this game to faggots who were playing Skyrim or PREPARE TO DIEXDD at the time
Absolutely futile
Mage is better than Sorcerer. I can't trust pawns to buff what I need when I need, and they always overcharge healing even if they just need to patch people up. fuck you guys
Its an okay game, I like it more for its potential. With some polish and tightening up of mechanics it could be a great game/series.Not sure how I feel about DDO, I do like what they did with the classes
>>342654395
Well gee Anon maybe if you played more than twenty fucking minutes you would have seen how much of a fucking faggot you are.
>>342654640
For those in the thread who are being genuine, you can get Ferrystones for fast-traveling to portcrystals located across the map
You can also find portcrystals and place them to make your own fast travel points where you want
Ferrystones can be found all across the map, in Fournival's shop, in the Black Cat shop, and once per in-game day for free beside the pawn's guild.
Portcrystals are at the Blue Moon Tower in the base game, and ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE in Dark Arisen, starting with the Everfall.
>>342649929
I thought it was okay and pretty fun when I started it.
Then I realized I lost 70 hours to it in a blink of an eye and I beat it twice.
That game is awesome tbqh senpai.
>>342654961
theres supposed to be a portcrystal at the first village, isnt there? i remember going there expecting to see something, and needless to say i didnt
>>342654836
>DD2 will never happen
>I will never get to punch shit properly
>>342650921
>first major local
Lol.
>its kind of shit
>but i want to like it
This was it for me.
And DD ended up being one of my favorite games in recent history. It really does have that 'kind of shit' feel tot it.
>>342655293
In Dark Arisen, they added one of the permanent portcrystal circles next to the gate for convenience.
There is not a collectable portcrystal there, no.
>>342655602
i guess i just need to play more, but i was hoping to have one by now.
>>342651480
Can you change difficulty after starting?
>>342655907
You're still early in, right? You probably haven't traveled very far yet. You won't really be hurting for one until you start visiting places like the Greatwall and Bluemoon Tower.
>>342656107
yes changing to hard from normal makes you restart like ng+, but going down doesnt change anything. You could potentially abuse this to get infinite amounts of certain items but it's tedious
>>342654873
I played more than twenty minutes, because it takes at least a fucking hour to get that Hydra head to Gran Soreass
>>342656504
it takes minimum 7 minutes to do the escort mission, even if you're going as fast as possible
>>342656504
>Soreass
Haha lawl :')
>>342656504
>because it takes at least a fucking hour to get that Hydra head to Gran Soreass
i could feel myself aging during that event holy shit
>>342649929
I thoght the atmosphere, the clinging onto enemies, the enemies in general, the missions. the customization, literally everything about that game is just amazing to me. You need to realize, that if you don't like it, its not gonna change your mind to hear others opinions.
>>342654873
>dat image
Does this really work? Think I might try it.
>>342650724
>I'd recommend not playing a mage character just because I think the melee/bow gameplay is more polished
As much as I love magic in DDDA, I have to agree. They just aren't really balanced for most approaches. The fact that you can solo everything with normal gameplay tactics and advanced tactics with all other classes sort of proves this.
Mages/Sorcerers just aren't going to be able to beat everything without becoming cheese fests. It becomes about finding some terrain that gets people stuck and/or relying on pawns to completely direct away attention. It feels more supportive than combatative despite the Sorcerer obviously being built for assault.
And I honestly think it boils down to cast times. Once you acquire the Wyrmking ring most magic builds really flourish. Up until then, you just suck most battles. Your damage is good enough, but you can hardly ever get off spells and your brittle as fuck. Which again, fair enough because of damage output, but that doesn't matter much when you can't get off spells without cheesing like crazy.
They should have really had some kind of thing where higher vocation levels give faster cast times and different staves give different cast times. That would have really helped balance the class out and in all honesty, just make itfun
>>342657186
>the clinging onto enemies
i clung to a sheep or something, and it was ridiculous to see
A++++
and i know, but i dont think ive spent enough time with a game, and part of me still wants to continue. so i figured id ask
>>342654836
how do i do this
this is looks very interesting
>>342657775
play dragons dogma online
>>342652982
There are some esoterically hidden quests though. I actually just discovered a new quest in Cassardis where you chase this guy around the world and save him by giving him herbs. I played 5 playthroughs and only just now discovered that quest. I had no idea who to talk to in order to start it, and I just randomly stumbled upon the guy. Which, to be fair, I think is cool, but that kind of thing would work better if there was hardly any or just no quest boards, only personal quests. Also if no one had things above their head saying "I'm more important because I have a quest" MMO crap, so you weren't just suspecting people to come to you instead of you having to look for them.
>>342652053
Jewtits x Shegoat WHEN!!!!
>>342657854
oh............
>>342654836
I'm not sure I agree with that direction that DDO took. Some of those enemies look... like they don't fit in with the design concepts of the original at all. Although I'm more interested to hear about a two. It really sucks that they basically used DD as a way to see if Monster Hunter could do some of the same things, but then just took it to MMO land because they had no vision for it.
>>342649929
The first fight at the very beginning with the chimera is lots of fun. If you think its boring then the game probably isn't for you
>>342658530
If he thinks it's boring maybe he should stop playing videogames. DD is many things but boring is not one of them.
>>342658530
>>342658614
was that the tutorial area? i liked it more than the main game so far.except i was cute in my peasant clothes.
>>342649929
-First hurdle: tutorial
-second hurdle: dragon fight intro
-third hurdle: pawn intro
-fourth hurdle: valley escort
-fifth hurdle: pawn guild
Pass the 5 and it's all uphill from there though it takes about 3 hours if you're on hard mode, even for a vet.
>>342659349
>valley escort
fuck that noise
>>342649929
I don't know I found it so fucking boring.
>Ugly and bland world
>Boring story
>Boring characters (aside from Grigori)
>Make you fight bandits and goblins in the same fucking places over and over again
>Camera while climbing is shit
It's a 5/10, had potential, wasted it.
>>342659349
>valley escort.
That's the one that causes it to take so long. Otherwise you could just run through the shit and skip cutscenes quickly. All the other ones are good. And the pawn guild quest is actually bretty good. Good exploran, and some top tier moments likethe ogre
>>342659609
The game was unfortunately rushed like no tomorrow as well. SO much content got cut.
>>342659708
You can still finish the game in about 20 minutes from start to finish on NG+.
>>342659349
The game gets fun after you kill Grigori and can just fuck around before the weak as fuck Seneschal. I was so fucking bored before that. DD is unironically one of the games that takes 10-20 hours to get good.
>>342659609
The dragon really was underplayed. He could have had far more quests and the green necromancer dude could have played more of a threat, too. Those two factors plus some real loss could have amped up the stakes quite a bit.
See that's the thing about Dragon's Dogma. Everything's kind of shit, but it's not the unbearable kind of shit, and as you go on and get into the groove of things you slowly learn to love it.
>>342659349
sounds like im almost there then. thanks
>>342659782
>20 mins
What? How?
I know the story isn't that long, but 20 mins? What if you set up warps properly? I mean even then you have to do at least 6 of the 8 king's quests (separated in two parts with 4 each).
>>342649929
I'm playing it right now. I like it a lot. There are flaws but the good is outweighing the bad.
It's okay. The combat feels good a lot of the time and I see why people like it.
>Open world is kind of empty, game steers you to stay near the 2 towns most of the time instead of exploring a ton, spawns are static
>Not much incentive for optional quests, making it even less attractive to explore
>Very few boss monsters, mostly just variations
>Game keeps trying to force party system on you
>Minmaxing system creates rage within OCD autists' hearts
>Tons of emphasis on climbing system, but is not really fun with constant staggering, fidgety and jarring motion, clipping, crazy camera, and awkward tank controls
>Farming BBI gear sucks donkey dick, RNG will do everything it can to fuck you. Not really necessary, but what the fuck else are you going to do endgame?
>End boss is a lame plot boss with no challenge
>Lots of stat checks, especially early and especially if you do decide to play alone. That is, unless you know which chests to farm :^)
>These stat checks can make some parts pretty slow, and so the meme about the guy being unable to kill goblins was born - which can actually happen with strong monsters.
>>342659349
Iuno, I think the fun pretty much goes downhill once you fight most of the monsters. Maybe around cockatrice or the first dragon-type? I suppose by then you are near the end anyway if you dont have Dark Arisen
>>342659732
I'm really not surprised to hear this. People always said its great, and it is. But I really think it lacks a severe amount of content. Reskins of enemies are fine, especially when they have some new moves too like some of thepost-game monsters. But when you have a small roster like that it comes off as lazy.
>>342659732
Normally I don't like fast travel but Christ did Dogma need it. The world is just so boring to explore, and it sends you on long ass fetch quests. The escort quests were the worst especially. You have to haul ass to that far off fort where you have to carve through bandits and goblins only to get one hit KO by the drake. Then you gotta go all the way back. So boring.
>>342659732
Do you have any sources of the cut content. I'm just curious what was gonna be in there.
>>342659782
Ddda ng+ is the biggest joke I've seen.
But hard mode ng was difficult to me since I was 1 hit by everything and did no damage so I had to rely on pawns.
>>342660073
>spawns are static
Mods are actually being worked on to change this. They've discovered the files that dictate where shit is located. And they technically can, with a lot of trial and error, change what enemies spawn where (which will be cool for player made hard mode mods). But when it becomes easier, expect people to right randomizer scripts for weapon locations, drops and enemy locales. Obviously some will be more lore friendly than others. But it will make the game have so much more replayability. Already they can modify spells. And not just statistics either.
>>342660073
>Unless you know which chests to farm
Are there hidden chests with good loot or some shit? Most I've found was some shit after dealing with the Witch's daughter's side quest.
>>342659973
There's a speedrun mode where you get a reward (witch loli's clothing) for finishing the game quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuD5UU0n5s0
>>342659838
Itsuno planned a whole fuckload more but they couldn't get it all into the game because of scope issues.
Nigga wanted Grigori to take you into orbit and shit.
>>342660490
For each class, there aren't that many weapons you will be interested in (especially before BBI). Further, chests have determined loot, but they are RNG. You just reload which takes fucking forever if you don't get what you want (chests do eventually respawn if you don't want to do this).
For example, heavenspeak has good armor, and insane bow, and good physical and lightning daggers. The crypt has extremely good fire daggers which will wreck everything. You don't need to fight anything to get these items, just run past a few enemies.
So, really you just need to know the chest locations for the class you are focusing on if you want to fuck shit up.
>>342660490
Yeah definitely. The game has several good chests. Some are deceptive (like the tier 1 chests that hide amazing element weapons). For instance If you skip straight to theAncient Quarry, one with three ogres in itthere is a chest up on multiple cliffs inside a wall that looks like the basic wooden box chest. That one givesEden's Warden, the only fire sword for Fighter/Mystic Knightbut is really rare. You can stand beside a chest before opening it. Then save the game. Open it. If it isn't what you want, just quit to main menu WITHOUT saving or die via the god's bane if you're that far, then reload and open it again.
>>342660986
>>342661132
I see. Thanks for the information.
>You don't need to fight anything to get these items
This aspect has disappointed me so far. For example coming across a large goblin camp or a powerful ogre and they don't really drop anything but materials.
>people keep trying to force themselves to like this game
Why?
Is it for like imaginary gamer street cred on /v/ or something?
Love the game myself, but I don't see why you'd make yourself play a game you don't like just because other people say it's good
>>342649929
The combat is fucking great, and I love the way the game looks and feels. That's all there is to it really. I guess it has an atypical story for a JRPG since nothing really happens all game, but I like that. If you don't think you can write a fantastic story, it's better to just push it to the sidelines ala SMT
>>342658530
does massive damage in single hits so you have to pause the game every time to heal up because you can't take more than a few without dying
>takes a fucklong amount of time, so long it got boring and you realize your chasing a headless chicken that occasionally smacks at you
yeah I won't find this game fun if the entire game is going to be like this
>>342660525
Jesus.
>>342661658
>Not jumping on top and taking out the snake and goat with just a couple strikes
I figured this out almost instantly.
>>342661370
>>342661503
>>342661612
>60FPS
>I still can't get my PC copy to run properly without crashing the next startup
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>342661280
Yeah I kind of agree. Especially coming from games like castlevania SOTN. I mean the RNG isn't too bad on drops and combat is really fun, so I don't see how why it would have been a problem.
>>342661658
>Dont use pawn stone
>Throw idiot main pawn off ledge when tutorial starts
>Hard mode new game
>Now youre playingI actually did this
>>342661737
Is DD playable with M+KB? I think I'd prefer it with a controller.
>>342661737
Wow that's so fucking sick the way they just stand there, hell yeah
is there any reason why the world is such a shithole? Gran Soren and Cassardis are the only populated areas and the whole game is filled with ruins.
Have you made your daily sacrifice to the Brine today, /v/?
>>342661954
Then play it with a controller. The M&KB isn't awful, but takes some getting used to. It's quite good once you get used to it. But I prefer controller myself because of the style of game it is.
>>342661658
If you can't figure out how to beat the literal tutorial boss then no, you won't like the game. The combat is evidently too deep for you, which is impressive because it's really not all that deep.
>>342661282
It's weird, right? I love DD way more than I probably should, but even so, I can see all the reasons that might turn someone off. It just scratches my particular itch.
Don't force yourself to play something you don't like, folks. That's how you end up with developers who try to appeal to everyone. It's okay to like different things.
>>342661820
>combat is really fun
Yes it is. That ogre I mentioned triggered such an outrageous battle
>Fighting off a thief's guild of women
>Suddenly armored Ogre runs up and attacks us
>Eventually force his armor off and kill him
>Mere seconds later a Chimera pops up
>He's quickly executed by mystarter Guts build
There's some occasional bullshit but for the most part it's great.
>>342661612
Your skeleton removal is inefficient
>>342661960
They're casting spells your mongoloid. Should mages run up and smack him with their dicks?
>>342660474
are people still making mods?
I reinstalled it the other day, and the only new ones I saw were a whole lot of ugly ENBs.
>>342661954
All these webms are with KB+M, it's good, especially if you want to use a bow class that's now Magik Archer, super precise aiming makes Ranger really fun to play
>>342661960
That's what happens when you cast spells, you stand there and wait. Same applies to enemies.
>>342661282
I'm glad I did force myself to like it to be honest. The first hour or so is a fucking slog, but it gets great after that. You just need to force yourself through that bit.
>not styling on enemies as a sword and board assassin
>not killing tough endgame enemies through sheer falling damage alone
>>342662137
This. People can criticize the game but those who are crying about no fast travel and other shit that is blatantly available in the game need to stop embarrassing themselves. The game has plenty worth criticizing without needing to show that you only played for five minutes.
>>342662156
Doing that on a BBI challenge is fucking brutal. So much reset... You MUST make good use of the explosive barrels and learn how to dodge that big skeleton because any hit is death.
>>342661970
The dragon comes to harass Gransys and the surrounding nations every few decades or so, bringing all kinds of monsters and badguys and chaos with it.
Not only is it hard enough to build more towns and forts with monsters and bandits everywhere, but one would then have to deal with the village likely being razed every time the dragon comes around looking for a new Arisen.
In any case, Gransys is an economic trainwreck with a small population and a weak kingdom so it's fucked to begin with
What properly trained pawns fight like.
>>342661772
>>342662106
I figured it out and then the lion did fucking nothing except run back and forth around the room, the only gameplay at that part is running and jumping onto him, smacking him until you run out of energy and then either wait or pause and spam items.
Where is the fun exactly? Literally no tension or excitement, just a quo of actions to fill
>>342662435
Oh damn that's pretty nice
I haven't gotten to that skill level yet
>>342662156
That's great
Someone posted an MA combo-ing a few skeletons with Scension, wish I saved it
>>342662285
Right now, that's the easiest mods, as always. I just used ReShade and modified the colors my self to get better contrast and more saturation and vibrance out of the game's washed out pallete. But, yes, there are people in the back ground working on how to make better use of the systems. Something called ArcTool is used to unpack all MT Framework games, including DD. Then you can actually see the coding for a ton of stuff in the game. There is this mod,
http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/256/?
which modifies many statistics for your character and gives much lower stamina costs for running, which is a god send.
Here we have an example of the true Dragon's Dogma experience.
I hired this pawn a while back
This is all he does
>>342662593
Going to BBI with some /ddg/ pawns on PS3 was ridiculous, two of them could just clear the entire thing themselves
>>342662636
You're really bad. That boss is crazy easy, they made it that way intentionally to help along newcomers. You say, "no tension or excitement" but you can't seem to kill it without complaining so you are really worse than even you imagine you are.
One of the many reasons why Strider is the best class.
>>342662858
lol this has to be someone intentionally fucking up, nobody is that bad.
What was your moment when you realized Dragon's Dogma was something special?
>>342649929
Game plays really well. Gear looks cool, combat is great, enemy design is solid, pawn system is fun.
The only way I could see disliking it is if you put story over gameplay.
>>342662434
True, but if you turn out not liking it, will that investment be worth it though?
The really fun parts start when you start slaying big monsters left and right, which is mostly closer to Grigori and after, which still takes a while
>>342663059
wot
>>342662858
Christ mate, I hope that's not a webm of YOU playing.
>>342662878
i hope you gave him a good rating
>>342662858
Wait what? I didn't know enemies could cancel the ferrystone cast. It just falls to the ground? That's hilarious
>>342662858
Why would someone make a webm of this, how is anyone this bad at games? This is very confusing.
>>342663059
;(
>>342663143
When I made a cute elf ranger pawn for PC release and got millions of RC every single day for a straight month after never getting any hires on console.
>>342663310
It's not.
>>342663371That's what happens when someone gifts you a fake ferrystone forgery from the Black Cat and you try to use it.
>>342662878
Did they only give him one move? And how the hell is his AI so bugged?
>>342662152
>you can just throw on a dress and the women bandits will leave you alone
>tfw no sequel where The Brine is the villain
hurts lads
>>342663390
You can't jump and then do the skill, the little leap that you do when you use helm/brain splitter needs to be what takes you off the ledge in order to avoid the fall damage.
>>342662858
>dying to snow harpies
literally what
>>342663469
Well, fuck. They're all dead anyway.
>>342650921
Just 2 mages, one for damage and one for healing
>>342663540
I know. There was a /ddg/ right around release where I was fulfilling requests of what it looked like when you ate shit from a certain height after doing the Mage hover, and decided to go full Samus
How does the pawn AI work? Is it entirely based on the shit you tell them in the knowledge chair or do they learn from you?
>>342663143
When I was fighting a goblin army in the woods thinking it would never end, and then just as it calmed down and only a few left a Chimera leaps off screen and pummels me. I was just so surprised. And the fact that if you have highly upgraded shields and perfect counter chimera melee attacks it can get knocked so hard it falls over and rolls. That feels fucking great.
>>342663625
They'll respawn eventually
I think if they like you they give you a quest or two, I can't remember for sure
If you are going to just wear a dress though make sure you don't have any male pawns, your party has to be all women or all in drag since they hate men
>>342663768
I think it's both.
>one-shotting a Gorechimera with a fully charged Arc
>>342654836
Imagine DD with the tightness of DMC.
Itsuno can make it happen. Itsuno WILL make it happen.
>>342654836
It's far too anime for my taste
DD struck the perfect balance of believability and fun
>>342663920
>One shotting a Griffin with a face shot AoD that is soaring down top-speed right as it gets to you
That's some monster hunter Rathalos shit right there.
>>342663768
Both, their priorities are based on what you tell them and they learn from battle based on how many of a type of enemy you killed and how you killed them by noting what is and isn't useful and what the weak spots on enemies are
>>342663995
I came when I realized fighter has stinger ported incredibly faithfully.
>>342663995
Don't get my jimmies all knotted up, anon.
>>342663143
This was back on PS3, on my first playthrough
>play strider
>main pawn is amazon fighter bent on using any and all consumable items
>get picked up by harpy
>I was the only ranged in party apart from the mage
>mage trying desperately to heal
>my main pawn is the only one paying attention to me
>getting close to a cliff, all the while increasing altitude
>pawn throws a Foreign Knife
>harpy drops me
>pawn catches me
>puts me down
>in that slightly bassy voice
>"Don't worry, I am here."
I actually had to put down the controller and sit there for a good minute to process all that
>>342664127
Well, its good. But not quite as awesome since he runs before doing it, instead of just floating towards the enemy like a bad ass.
>>342659349
>>342659605
>>342659708You can go up to the cow or whatever pulling the cart and kick it so it goes fasterwhat a shitty mission
>>342664272
Yeah, I'm fine with it though, DD is a little more grounded than dmc.
>>342662972
I finished the area >>342661612 is in and then couldn't bring myself to turn it back on. Everything was a ridiculous damage sponge and any time your health gets low you just pause and spam heals.
I'm like OP, I want to love this game but it just feels anti-tension compared to what you're actually doing (riding on the back of giants and shit)
>>342664291
Yeah, I know. But once its out of health can't really do that anymore. Best if you use mage I guess so you can heal it.
God I want a mod that give that thing infinite health so you can kick it for days.
>>342664383
True, true.
>>342664191
>>342664191
>I actually had to put down the controller and sit there for a good minute to process all that
>>342649929
I liked it until after you beat the dragon and the world goes to hell. Everything is too hard to kill, especially faggot wolves that spit fire and god damn I just want to enjoy the game again.
>>342664386
everything was either a pushover or a damage sponge*
>>342649929
>good combat
>good bad guy
everything else was forgettable. stick DD combat into a well designed game and I'd enjoy it
>>342649929
Dragon's Dogma is kinda like a strong beverage. At first, you may find it pretty bad, but if you stick with it for a while, it gets its hooks on you. By the time it ends, you love it.
That fucking ending battle, my friends...
>>342664191
I play as big muscle man and have qt girl as main pawn but I liked your story anon.
>>342664087
Oh this?
>>342664779
Combat IS the game. I only return to town to empty my inventory, then I go out to kill some more. It would be like saying Tetris would be good if you didn't have to stack blocks.
>>342664883
>gotcha bitch
>>342664808
It helps the game too, that it was such a surprisingly good end boss fight. Especially coming out at the apex of shitty end game bosses bereft of actual combat, instead full of QTEs.
>>342664191
>can't waifu pawns
this is the game's biggest flaw. also where are you drawfag?
Best class? Please tell me it's mage. I'm about to start up the game because I saw a .webm of this awesome tornado somebody used
>>342664968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afH5wYR4BY
>>342664386
This may sound blasphemous, but try lowering the difficulty. On hard and even normal to an extent, that's just what the game is for a while.
And if you do make it to new-game+... fight the final boss offline. Just... trust me on this.
>>342664918
Well that's not entirely true though. Dragon's Dogma has actually tries to do other RPG things unlike Tetris. It just fails pretty hard at them. If it wanted to be pure combat it really should have just went the Monster Hunter route, which literally has nothing else going on but Boss quests.
>>342665053
Sorcerer is the one that casts all the big damage spells. Mage is more of a healer/support class that is better relegated to pawns.
>>342665053
That's what the Sorceror class does my mate.
If you get Sorceror pawns with you with that spell you can sync yourselves up for yet more tornadoes
>>342649929
Only thing I don't like about the game is that really, only the bow classes are viable. I wanted to be a badass warrior with a big weapon but oops, they suck shit and trying to do BBI with one is suicide.
>>342665043
I think the ending made it more significant than just romancing your pawn>that desperate MASTER shout while you're falling
Shit made me choke up
>>342665236
Anon, you should try the evasive damage dealers for Warrior. That's the only way to play really. Exploiting I frames is pretty much his build.
>>342665053
>>342665218
Also multiple sorcerers can synchronize casts for rapid high level spells.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3AOQfs8_-o
>>342665236
I'm almost done clearing BBI2 as 90% warrior and 10% fighter.
Hey faggots
>>342665674
*Casts Immolate*
>>342664596
>faggot wolves that spit fire
jesus christ what the fuck
>>342650270
do you understand the concept of greentext
>>342665408
Just like Guts would have done
>>342665053
i dunno, it sounds like you should start as something else for the beginning, then be a mage later on
>>342665136
>And if you do make it to new-game+... fight the final boss offline. Just... trust me on this.
i thought that was rec for all the time?
>tfw you pick a shitty voice for your pawn and have to wait till you can edit them
i wanted to kill them myself
>>342665674
>>342665783
>start casting Immolation
>as soon as I set myself on fire the chicken knocks me down as it flies into the air
>about to turn off Immolation
>notice my fighter pawn wasn't knocked down
>pawn had Steel Will on and stood there with Launchboard ready
>hop
>just enough height to grab its stupid belly
>mfw
>>342665832
I would love a comic that just shows someone using I-Frames. And the antagonist is just like "what the fuck"?
>>342665674
IT BEARS THE HEAD OF A COCK
>>342665236
>only the bow classes are viable
GET
OUT
REMOVE FLIERS
>>342666435
I busted out laughing so hard when my female pawn said that. "Oh so you know a lot about cocks do you?"
>>342665793
Hellhounds
>>342666518
Shield stab is best.
>>342666349
>tfw the Dragon's Dogma promotional manga wasn't that terrible
> Hadn't played the game in like four months.
> Turn it back on last week to try to beatawakenedMatt Daimon once again.
> Mfw I actually fight the drake gangbang in the room before and win.
> Mfw I clear the city of 70 fucking eliminators, 5 drakes and one extra undead drake that just decided to eat some bodies.
> Mfw I actually succeed in beating the pawnfucker in a single try.
What is this power? I know I never could have done this with how I was playing previous.
>>342651235
If you dont ABSOLUTELY NEED a lantern at night, your brightness is waay too fuckin high.
>>342666705
How did you white text there?
>>342666795
not him but Im guessing
>Like this?text testTest test
>>342665674
no idea how you were supposed to kill this without cheesing it because the pawns always got themselves killed
>>342666795
Spoilerbreaksit
>>342666721
Day time must be awful with that much brightness.
>>342666721
i dont know if i love or hate this mechanic
>>342666795
By fucking up.
> It wasto be like this.supposed
But yeah, spoilering in middle of greentext breaks the green, and I always forget how to green it again. It involves something with three spoilers or something.
>leaving the main city
>it's dark out
>get raped by a pack of warlocks
>change my entire party to sorcerer
>we can't kill shit
fuck you game
>>342667175
Its a good idea poorly executed
The light produced is low tier 90s shit, they could have done better lighting had this not been rushed as fuck
Which is a fact a lot of people seem to forget about DD, Capcom thought it was dead in the water and not going to sell any copies so they forced the dev team to release early. Thats why it feels so half finished.
>>342667175
If the game was updated to DX11 or just somehow modded to have dynamic lighting and shadows in dark places instead of static, fixed light sources then it probably would be much better. Also I think that it should be a little brighter when you have above half a lantern full and then the current brightness should be reserved for half full. To compensate, have an animation for refueling, which would make it more difficult to do in combat.
great meme game
>>342650270
Who are you quoting you retarded piece of shit?
>>342667304
>go out at night for the first time
>my pawn gets WRAITH'd
>"it's okay they only need one hit to get rid of it"
>she instantly Blink Strikes me off the cliff
There was definitely a grudge building up in that AI of hers
>>342667432
They worked on it for four years, retard. Let that sink in. Nothing about this game was rushed, it took four years to come up with a half-baked product because no one on the team had ever made an open world game or an RPG.
>>342667889
Yeah and D3 was in 'development' for a decade
Dont be an idiot anon, think for yourself. Making up a story board =/= actual game development.
Probably the only game I've ever played that genuinely gave me a sense of adventure in an open world.
>have multiple quests far away
>get all my equipment sorted and bring the minimum of potions for every problem I might face
>experiment with some ingrediants to practice new potions, and make a mental note to pick any herbs on the way there
>making sure to travel by day and rest at inns when it gets to dark
>finding secret passage ways through a mountain range and that readyness to help the guy who needs to go through it
>that commrodery when you travel with pawns that actually feel like they're learning
>thinking you can take on the drake the first time you see it
>arriving at the destination and then turning in all the quests
it wasted so much time, but I loved it.
>>342667889
Game designers consider sitting on their asses drinking coffee and saying 'how cool would X be' as game design
Those 'it took Y amount of years' are ALWAYS wrong. But hes right in saying DD was rushed because it was, the original plan was far far larger and Capcom snipped it before they could finish it.
>>342667889
>>342668029
>>342668135
Also I think its important to note that they had to build in:
>Shadow of the colossus climbing systems
>Some of the most responsive and accurate combat in any game
>A learning pawn AI system
>Get all this to run on shitty 7th gen consoles, which they could have done better at given more time
All of this, completely from scratch because they were using MT Framework which had never been programmed for open world games before. AND Capcom cut them off early.
>>342649929
It is a very flawed unfinished piece of shit but still manages to be kind of good somehow...
>>342666696
>It exists
>It's pretty as fuck
>It's ACTUALLY based on the game
Bless you, anon
>>342666696
>tfw Dark Souls got some sort of comic to go with it
>tfw it was one of the worst things I've ever read
>>342662858
More like you playing like a 8 years old idiot.
>>342666696
Why do all the cute anime girls have to be FROM FUCKING SHIT shows?
>>342668737
>uses the pawn's phrases
>same mechanics
>follows the story
>just adds a bit of manga-ish plot and waifuism
>has the entire based Grigori dialogue
>>342668802
This just destroyed me to the point that I couldn't finish it
>>342649929
My only advice is that the beginning is a fucking SLOG but later on it gets so fun it's almost a sin.
>>342669478
This image alone told me that the author knew absolutely zero about Dark Souls. I stopped reading when Solaire was made out to be the bad guy.
>>342669737
I know, it's just such a disaster
Just a generic western fantasy comic #32549 with some "inspiration" from Dark Souls at best
>>342663059
Being a fucking ninja has to be the best way to play DD.
>Midget muppet BTFO
>the speech on the wall
>talking to you throughout the entire final fight
>David Lodge's performance
How did they manage to make him so cool
>>342670459
Its amazing how well this game does multiple different styles of play. I mean, I like Souls games, but DD just makes each class feel absolutely different to play. Most souls classes have to share shit with each other because they don't work completely all the way through. And magic is god awful and repetitive unfortunately.
What's the best skill setup for a melee guy? With a sword and shield.
>>342670835
Gregory the Grigori had so few lines but they were perfectly delivered.
>>342671170
Which one are you playing? Figher? Mystic Knight? Assasin? Those all use sword and shield. It varies based on which you choose
>>342671261
I guess I'll try Mystic Knight, I've not fucked with that before.
>>342671253
That scene where you meet him in the Old Castle Ruins initially and he proposes the choice gave me goose bumps.
>I literally picked up the girl carried her back to the entrance
>Turned around unsheathing my sword and shield
>Walked confidently at him
>Stay away from my weapon you beast!
>>342671359
Sigils are the bomb. But you can always get into counter magic on the shield. Shit is raw.
>Perfect block with fire enchanted shield. Knock enemy in the air shoot 3 fireballs and kill everything in front of me.
So good...
>>342671490
>Stay away from my "weapon" you beast
Holy kek, anon.
>>342669256
Because shows with girls in them are shit.
>>342671863
I wish the Free boys weren't so monstrously muscly. Their bodies are so gross and awkward
>>342670838
I know what you mean about DkS.
>Bows are only good for pulling. Unless you spec in to a greatbow in which it's good for initially weakening the enemy before you resort to your sword anyway
>Shields are mechanically inferior in every scenario so everyone will be using one weapon and maybe an offhand built for parrying quickly because there's nothing else worth the weight
>Magic doesn't hit hard. Nor does it regenerate.Forcing you to build for melee when you inevitably do -50 damage on the 1 1/2 casts of your spell you have
>Consumables like bombs and knives aren't good enough to build a playstyle around.
>The only legitimate defensive option is the fast roll in each game so everyone builds around that.
Melee combat in souls is fun, but it is a game that limits it's scope severely.Yes I am implying hitting people with offensive magic is so weak it heals them.
>>342662152
my first ogre fight was in the everfall and my Magical Conan guy had climbed onto his shoulders and was whacking him about the head and shoulders while he wails on my escort girls only to blunder off the edge, fall down two levels and leave me with a vocation boost and level up.
>>342651235
Some sidequests will say "kill X number of Y in area Z" and those are a slog, but they are not timed, you can take as many as you want, you don't have to go anywhere to turn the quest in, and most importantly the Z location actually does not matter, you can the certain enemy type at any location. So take as many of those as possible, and run around doing the actual sidequests you get from NPC's.
>>342672105
They definitely cross the line from ottermode into something less attractive. Nagisa looks alright, at least.
>>342672105
That's monstrously muscly to you? Anyone who goes to the gym has more muscle than the picture this dude linked.
![Free! - 04 - Toraware no Batafurai!.mkv_snapshot_14.17_[2013.11.24_08.37.51].png](https://i.imgur.com/mOxkXNJ.jpg "Free! - 04 - Toraware no Batafurai!.mkv_snapshot_14.17_[2013.11.24_08.37.51].png")
>>342672820
Art varies but if you watch the show you'll see it, their bodies are just weird
>>342672203
True. Yeah what really pisses me off is how Souls vets treat it like a non-issue. They act like all of that imbalance is okay, because the game is "supposed to be hard" when all it really does is kill diversity. The biggest fans of Souls games literally kill their potential by fighting to keep everything the same for fear that change will "casualize" the experience. As much as I hate dumbing down, I hate elitism/"hardcore" players almost as bad since they won't let games evolve out of sheer, pertrified fear that they'll lose their toys.
>>342672820
Those aren't the guys he was talking about. The guys in the picture are from Binan.
>>342673150
I was going to say, I've got more muscle than any of those dudes and I'm definitely not "monstrously muscly."
>>342672203
Depends which one you're talking about. Arcane is pretty solid in BB and magic is arguably op in DeS DS and it could one shot bosses at many point in DS2, DS3 is the first game it's been really ass in, or early BB.
>post yfw the wind pushed you for the first time
>>342673106
Most of those players don't even know how to fight correctly. They can complete the game, but so many players are so plodding and defensive they let opportunities to make the game easy pass them by.
You can absolutely tear through souls games if you are willing to accept a little risk and danger in trade for good opportunities. Playing timidly makes the game MORE difficult if you are willing to believe that.
>>342673481
BB isn't a souls game. It's made by From and shares a lot of the same mechanics cause it's the same dev, but it's not Souls. Not saying it's bad, but it is it's own little thing that's still cool.
I confess I never got to play DeS.
DkS1 had a few cool things but you were still going to be a melee hybrid because of the severe and forced limits on magic. DkS2 magic wasn't so good. Unless you were a hex mage in which case HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAA holy shit why would you be a magic man and not use hexes? Yet you were still going to be a melee hybrid to an extent. DkS3 is an utter disgrace in terms of magic. At least it could be fun in the previous games even if it still forced you to have a competent melee build out of inevitability.
And that's the real problem here. Inevitability. Souls inevitably forces you to be melee or hybridize melee because the other options cannot float on their own no matter how powerful. It's an inherent and even purposeful flaw in the game's design. Even then, melee combat doesn't really have as much variation as something like DD. The deeper you get in to PVP in souls in particular, the more you realize how everything shares a wide and common foundation on how it works.
>>342674913
What would you all want to see in a sequel?plotwise
>>342675572
Make pawns a romance option obviously.
>>342675572
Remove the retarded I AM BECOME PAWN PAWN AM BECOME ME bullshit or at least explain it in a way that makes it sound like it's not retarded.
>>342675572
The original idea of the game makes it seem like something that would be above God (I forgot how they call it). You would be a human of course, not necessarily the Arisen.
I would recommend anyone who's interested in Dragon's Dogma to check out the GDC Conference, it's pretty interesting.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5o3KhXv6w
I really want another Dragon's Dogma from Hideaki Itsuno.
