What black magic did Team Silent use to get Silent Hill 3 looking as good as it does?
The perfect merge of clever art design and optimization.
It's good designers and programmers at the top of their game.
meme magic
>>342630532
Small but detailed environments separated by loading screens.
They knew the limitations of the ps2 hardware.
They tried REALLY hard.
They gave a shit.
Focused on faces and ignored everything else
>>342630532
Good use of textures and some crazy Shinto magic
>>342630532
same as when making both SH1 and 2:
-Japanese workaholic attitude
-Detail-maniacs
-Good understanding of art techniques and topology
-Actually made everything from scratch, instead of utilizing pre-made engines, assets, stock filters or shaders, etc.
>>342631080
Not true.
Even in the environments, they included whole areas that you could not enter, sometimes even SEE in the game.
It's a cutscene so it could use all of the CPU power for rendering. The PS2, despite classically being considered underpowered, could render something like 80 million polygons per second with the full utilisation.
The Silent Hill games on PS2 look incredible though. Go into a dark room in Silent Hill 2, turn the flashlight on and be amazed at how they perfected T&L pipeline lighting.
>>342631285
dat u, lying figure?
>>342631484
Gonna need something higher res and less compressed as an example, bro.
Actual perfect game.
3 is my favorite of the series and favorite game of all time.
>>342631624
>higher res
>Ps2 game
>>342631536
If it is I'm sucking his dick before you.
>>342631629
I don't think a perfect game would be so short, have so much filler (sewer/office building) and reuse a bunch of environments from previous games.I still like it though
>>342631727
Have you been reading this thread?
>>342631740
Get in line, faglord.
>>342631536
>>342631740
who's this lying figure? Some tripfag?
I've been mistaken as this thing twice now, though I only now made the connection.
the game re-implements assets nearly constantly, not only failing to capture the detail and environmental design of the RE remake of its same generation, but actually inherently slashing away at its own horror atmosphere by distracting reminding the player on a constant basis that he has been in this hallway, seen this exact poster board, etc. many times before
The little impressive pockets of the silent hill games and how """DEEP""" you all call them doesn't change the fact that they are painfully repetitious, piss easy, time padded trots through copy pasted rooms for about... oh... 90% of the play time?
SH is the most retarded, most delusional fanbase. They aren't the best looking games of that gen,
they aren't the best horror games ever made,
they aren't even basically that good, it's all shallow as a puddle of mud
>>342631795
The thread topic is about Silent Hill's PS2 graphics. I clarified my point and provided a screenshot which is in the native resolution of most PS2 games.
What's to complain?
>>342631795
I'm first in line tho
>>342631765
It's longer than 2 and the first if you're good.
I don't consider the sewer filler, sure I dread the sewer every playthrough but on hard with the moving spoopy wall textures that slowly kill you what's not to love? And the Office Building is one of my favorite areas in 3 so you lost me there
>>342632112
>comparing realtime rendering to prerendered background images
(you)
>>342630532
The same bewitching best girl voodoo that went into creating this enchanting bombshell.
>>342632039
Comfy Silent Hill YouTube man who posted his stuff a few times here. Does "loreplays" about Silent Hill, explaining all the cool details and stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTD1RlhS6PpYeaQ6lMjdL7Q
>>342632113
You're point would have been made better using emulation or the PC version since they look identical visually but the visuals can be shown off better at native 1080p or even 720p
>>342632250
> And the Office Building is one of my favorite areas in 3 so you lost me there
It's not that I don't like the office or sewer. I just feel like the game has a lot of story in the first 10 minutes and then none until the half way point with Harry's death. It feels like actual filler just to get the game up to 6 hours.
>>342632039
An anon who made a nice little playthrough of the series, worth a watch if you love Silent Hill.
But now every Anon who clearly loves SH and is articulate is mistaken for him.
>>342632379
>thread about Ps2 graphics
>Given meme response about resolution
>Thinking emulation can provide an objective view of a game's graphics
>>342632379
I miss Ibitsa streams.
>>342632394
I don't mind it cause we're assaulted with story once in silent Hill proper. I like Heathers lonely journey home and there's lots of great little bits and notes between getting to the subway and getting home to Dad of the Year.
>>342630532
I'm playing silent hill for the first time right now onepsxe.
What am I in for?
Also should I stop before I get too invested in a series that is now a pachinko machine konami slave?
neat, a SH thread! Let's repost the SH PC Guide + the DL links for teh gaems:
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk
SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8
SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE
SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE
SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c
SH4 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc
Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" fix works as a no-cd crack as well, and is included in the pack.
In case you experience issues saving the game / not being able to edit the disp.ini, make sure the files aren't set to "Read Only", and run the game as Administrator.
If SH2 gets stuck in a black screen upon launch, close it and re-start it again.
>>342632645
You're aware the OP wasn't taken on the PS2, right?
>meme response
>>342632653
I'm not familiar with what you're talking about.
>>342632750
No because the Western titles will already break your heart, the pachinko machines hurt less once you remember Homecoming was real and it's here forever.
How does SH4 look on PC?
Its the only mainline SH I haven't played yet and I'm planning on giving it a go soon.
>>342632808
the shimmering makes it look like an upscaled ps2 screenshot
>>342630532
Heather looks wayyy too similar to me and I'm a dude. Weird as heck why they made her so masculine
>>342632997
Probably an emulation glitch caused by the depth of field.
>>342632997
that pixelation is the result of he PC port's DOF blur being stuck at the original 480p quality
>>342632995
It's ok
>>342631080
Pretty much this. It was the same with RE4.
Where's thedoujin?
>>342633093
Or maybe you just look really feminine, anon.
Post pics of your butt.
>>342630937
This.
It's all about viewing it like an engineering problem.
"These are the constraints that we're working with, now how to we obtain the desired result"
>>342633425
I don't look feminine at all, she looks masculine as fuck, looks alot like me.
>>342633537
Don't you get sick of saying this every SH thread? Also you look like a sissy bro Heather is feminine you are feminine looking and that's okay dude
>>342632808
Ibitsa was a namefag and a former speedrunner of Silent Hill games. He regularly streamed 1-4 and sometimes Homecoming and Downpour. Pretty nice guy, no memes, only gameplay and lore/theories. Later he became a Resident Evil fag and then disappeared.
>>342633761
>Don't you get sick of saying this every SH thread?
What I don't recall that.
>>342633845
Ah, sounds cool. I usually don't fuck with stream or name or trips. Did anyone archive any of them?
>>342632995
great.
>>342633761
Androgynous boys and girls are my favorite.
How the fuck did they manage to fuck up the "HD" collection so bad?
It's hot as hell in this thread
>>342634742
Quick cash in and they didn't have the completed code. So instead Konami gave the devs a beta code of the games. Also the issues with the voice actors.
The collection shouldn't have even been okay'd if they couldn't do it right. Konami greed plain and simple.
>>342634937
>>342634742
-hired a no-name mobile app developer team to do the ports, instead of waiting BluePoint being done with the MGS HD Collection.
-Hiring THE biggest cocksucker, self-proclaimed "walking talking SH Bible", who hates every game in the series, to be in charge of the project.
-They used old alpha versions of the games, because these fuckers hadn't even thought of reverse-engineering the data out of old retail discs, like BluePoint does.
-Konami didn't want to pay the old VAs, so they just hired new, totally unmotivated people to redub the games, all without any directing whatsoever.
-They also wanted to fit both games on 1 Xbox DVD, thus no more games than the 2 and 3.
>>342630532
Above average textures, and concealing all the imperfections with fog or darkness.
>>342634937
I don't know why I love this line so much
>>342635310
Those new voice actors also mocked the old actors and the fanbase as well.
Man everything surrounding this game is depressing when you think about it. Collections should be some of the greatest things yet so many of them get fucked over. MCC is another collection that turned into such shit when it should have been a god tier collection.
>>342635772
>MCC
Anon, I have the Halo 3 thread open in another tab don't do this to me
>>342636371
Well it is true. These fucking bastards need to make great collections worth buying. Not shit that is going to piss people off for good. Especially since these devs aren't going to bother making another collection.
For SH that's it. You aren't going to ever be getting another collection that does justice to the series. It's truly finished and Konami blew it big time.
>>342636879
Atleast DMC HD and MGS HD were good.
>>342636879
This.
Goddammit, we got very nice legit PC ports already. Just use those as the base for the potential HD re-releases... or hell, RE-release the PC ports with compatibility + widescreen fixes.
>>342635502
Cause Angela
>>342637320
True and for the most part collections at least turn out well. It's just that there are some real blunders out there and pretty much I already named the two worst collection blunders. And man are they a huge fuck you to people. It sucks.
>>342637459
There would have still been a problem. They for some reason didn't want to include 4 in the collection. For PS3 they could have at least also gave a download code bare minimum since you know, SH3 is a fucking sequel to 1!
>no Angela Orosco figure with knife, sad look on her face and wall mirror.
>>342637745
>They for some reason didn't want to include 4 in the collection.
Like said earlier, they had to already jam two games on a single DVD, thanks to the Xbox 360 port becoming a thing. Also, Hulett literally stated that SH4 was "too controversial" title to be included. And SH1 faced the same fate and problems as MGS1 during MGS HD and Legacy Collections.
Only just recently, with the amazing, out of the blue appearing remastered re-release of the FF9, have I started to have any faith in PS1 games getting HD remasters.
>>342637818
>you will never hugs Angela and tell her everything is OK
;_______;
