Bloodstained
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After Mighty No. 9, I swore to myself that I'd never back any Kickstarter again, but fuck it. I'm gonna back this shit.
I just played the demo and I had a dumb smile on my face during the whole thing. It's already more polished than the final MN9 game. The graphics, the animations, the UI, the music, everything is miles better. Doesn't even feel like it's being developed by the same team (Inti, not Comcept).
Torrent if anyone wants it: https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/15067046/Bloodstained__Ritual_of_the_Night_Demo
>>342608372
I'm getting a fatal error
>>342609763
That sounds pretty bad, you should go see a doctor.
kek same fucking company as Mighty No 9. Literally the exact same people working on it again.
>>342609763
Oh man, is your cum brown too? Good i thought it was just me.
>>342608372
got it to work. seems very solid. not a fan of the 3d characters to be honest, but everything else looks and feels sharp. I feel like the boss is too easy.
>>342609950
hopefully that means theyre learning not to make turds. it feels lack luster in the difficulty, but the game's physics and feel works. Even the familiar jump weapon cancel is there.
>>342608372
>it's a /v/ hasn't learned anything form all the kickstarter failures episode
but don't worry, I'll be here and laugh at you just like I laugh at MN9 backers now
>>342611393
screencapping this so I can laugh at you later
>>342608372
>Doesn't even feel like it's being developed by the same team (Inti, not Comcept).
A potential difference is that IGA brought people he's worked with in the past with him. So at the very least there's IGA and his cadre that are competent.
>>342611853
>A potential difference is that IGA brought people he's worked with in the past with him.
Inafune did the same though.
>>342611179
>I feel like the boss is too easy.
Well, it is a tutorial level.
>>342612068
No i mean like, I used two potions to heal up before the fight, but I didn't actually need them even though I had a quarter of my health left. it was that easy. I wasn't even using the sword. just kicking. I'm not sure why she keeps lowering herself so I can smack her tits and face either. I mean its hot i guess, but she can't attack while doing that and she's way to voulnerable at all other points of the fight for her to afford a weak to damage cycle in her attack pattern.
>>342612000
Makes me wonder how awful inafune has to be for that game to turn out so awful. I felt like I can direct a better game just by testing whatever they throw together and giving suggestions based on game feel.
>yfw you didn't back Bloodstained
>>342613206
>>342609950
>>342611250
Comcept were the ones responsible for MN9, not IntiCreates. IC fucking made Gunvolt and were working on its sequel throughout MN9 development, and whilst its not an amazing game it's leagues better as a MegaMan successor than MN9.
>>342611393
Shovel Knight
>>342613660
Why would you do this
>>342613206
>tfw Kimo Kimo left Capcom to work on Mighty No. 9
>>342613680
why not
>>342613660
oh lordy
>upgraded pledge to $100 tier
>will probably upgrade it again to $150 for the art book
>and then $175 for the free digital copy
I really hope this doesn't wind up exploding in my face if the game winds up being bad
The movement feels great but i can't tell if i like or don't like how backdashing cancels everything and can be cancelled by everything. It feels like it will make your choice of weapon type trivial.
Regardless the game feels very fluid and I love ot so far.
>>342613660
DELETE THIS
>>342611546
what for?
>>342615029
I didn't notice that. to be honest I always feel like back dashing is useless. weapon canceling might make it something I have to learn, not that the games difficulty requires that. Back dash never seems to be required to dodge anything. I think the only fight where it came in handy was order of ecclesia and the shadowpunk
>>342609763
You need a 64 bit OS and a card that can handle UE4.
>>342613660
tumblr is leaking
>>342608372
>pay us money so we can use your money to make a product and than sell it and we keep all the profit
I don't understand how kickstarter is a legitimate thing
>>342615978
Well, just think of it as a preorder that pays for the game before its out.
>>342615978
The backer wants the product. That's all there is to it.
Gonna have to try this demo out.
>>342615737
I got both, the problem was minimizing the game
>>342615978
most of the time you can purchase the game by backing it, the reason you might not want to do that is if you want to support the backer but are reluctant to purchase until you know it meets your specifications, or your financial situation wont let you donate more.
theres nothing wrong with kickstarter other than the enormous cut kickstarter takes from you, but thats the price of a well known and sought platform. you charge for it. Kickstarter helps small companies fend off problems with piracy as they get their money in advance. people pay for the game, get the game, and will devote more money if they feel like the game might be worth more than theyre paying or they want other rewards. That's it though, thats all you have to do to use it like a normal game is to buy it and trust the devs. it's weakness is that often the devs are unproven or just shit out a turd anyway like mighty no 9. but any model has a weakness, kickstarter and things like it allow games to be made that would otherwise never exist.
>game looks like shit
>hyped because it has fap bait for autists
What are your hopes for the voice acting? Part of me hopes that someone realizes that Symphony's terrible voicing is part of what made it so memorable and they crank the cheese factor up.
>>342615029
hasn't this always been how IGA's games work? I remember doing this shit in OoE. air attack->land -> attack again -> backdash -> final attack
3 attacks in the speed of 1 good shit
>>342616784
try to include even more buzzwords next time you post. I know you can do it!
>>342616872
It's been so long since i played older Iga games, nevermind. Guess I just too stupid realize that's how they were when I was younger.
>>342616493
His point is the customer takes the role of the investor, bearing all the risk but reaping none of the rewards.
>>342613660
>>342615029
That's how all the igavanias are.
It's why most weapon types deal more damage if they are shorter, and also why the big heavy overhead swing weapons do assloads of damage because they cannot be cancelled.
>>342613660
is she Downs?
>>342617562
down to fuck?
>she
this game is amazing.
I backed the cheapest tier that comes with the game, and i feel like shit about it.
IGA deserves my $
>>342617032
>reaping none of the rewards
the reward is the game they like, possibly one that a board of investors would never approve of because metroidvania style games don't sell as well as dating simulators and idolshit.
I'm in the middle of routing my run. Has anyone found any map warp glitches yet?
>>342611393
>It's a retards haven't figured out that good Kickstarter games exist and have for years episode
>>342613660
I'll never understand. Why the red noses and cheeks constantly with tumblr? Are they supposed to have colds or be drunk or something?
SPECIAL BACKER EDITION
DIGITAL COPY here, no regrets after playing the demo other than the boring update emails clogging my inbox
>>342618116
Is that actually faster than running?
>download the demo from that Mega link
>suddenly start getting some weird network traffic since yesterday
t-thanks
>>342618309
Marginally. I hate when backdashing is the fastest movement option because it looks retarded, though. Hope there's something better in the full game.
>>342618309
I'm definitely saving some frames on those subpixels.
>>342618451
They'll have a black panther-esque speed up shard for sure.
>>342613660
It's not too bad. The nose is a little too bulbous but I don't see the problem
>>342618980
tumblr pls go
>>342618980
I don't think it's necessarily that the tumblr style is that obnoxiously bad (its not good either though), it's that the community is a circle jerk and once someone does a thing that gets popular, everyone on there starts copying it. There are countless artists who all only draw that face (down slanted eyes, red cheeks and nose, confused/vacant expression, wide mouth) and then just add hair/clothing/accessories to make it apparent it's who the character is supposed to be.
why do we have to pirate a demo.?
>>342618116
Yeah, you can fall through the floor on the part where you exit the ship the second time. You have to jump as far left going through the vertical screen transition, and you need to only go a few pixels over the transition. Not sure if mashing jump made it work, its not very consistent.
Be careful, you can fall all the way through the boat.
>speedrun faggots invading the thread
KEK
>>342613206
>>342613326
you still can
>http://www.fangamer.com/a/kindling/bloodstained
i can't decide if i should do it tho
Reminder that good games come from KS with low to moderate funding.
Things that blow up into meme status and way overachieve their goal like Scam Citizen, Shroud of the Avatar (which is a colossal failure with dismal steam ratings) and MN9 turn out to be shit. Devs lose focus when they have that much money shoveled at them before a product was even created.
>>342619374
Because it was meant to be a reward for $60 backers. Does it hurt you that much to have to torrent a 700mb file?
>>342619671
Art through adversity. Too much money breeds complacency.
>>342619728
No, I don't care. It's just the first time I'm seeing demo not being available to, well, anyone in order to advertise a game. I guess it'll be when it's really released though.
>>342619671
>Devs lose focus when they have that much money shoveled at them before a product was even created.
Try telling that to Yacht Club Games.
>>342619671
what are you shitting on about?
BS got a lot of money
>>342619917
Good point. I dont think they know how many people would be interested in it honestly. I could see them releasing it publicly when it's closer to release.
Any chance of this getting delayed? It says March 2017 release date, but I feel like it might need more time than that
>>342613206
>>342620248
It will likely get delayed to the fall at least. Although Iga is very well known for pulling things out of his ass when it comes to financial and time management.
>>342619989
I know, that's what worries me. The demo was good, but I have a feeling the finished product won't have half the polish old Metroidvania games had. There's no incentive to go above and beyond.
>>342616091
A pre-order for a product that may never come out with no refunds.
>redeem code on steam
>try to run game
>wants to install C++ and UE4 stuff separate from how steam normally does
>let it
>try and run again
>it asks again
>let it uninstall and reinstall to be sure
>keeps asking
>try and run from the exe in the folder
>dll is missing
>get dll and toss in system32
>exe doesn't know how to use the dll apparently?
I don't understand
>>342620368
I nearly creamed myself when I saw the 360 directional flames
From everything I've seen this looks like a quality product. Not just a rehash, mind you, but a game that seems like there's innovation
>>342620420
It's all in the KS terms and conditions. Anyone who donates their money away without knowing what they are getting into deserves to lose it if it happens. Iga happens to have a good track record with delivering what he promises because he's reasonable with his scope and is good at overseeing his projects.
>>342620594
>system 32
>on a 64 bit game
sounds like you dumped the dll in the wrong folder
>>342608372
>It's already more polished than the final MN9 game. The graphics, the animations, the UI, the music, everything is miles better.
which means it's a turd with sprinkles?
come on man, don't try to make bloodstained look better by comparing it to MN9
>>342619917
Actually, it being available only backers "officially" is a better publicity stunt. If it was widely available no one would care, but since the thing needs to be pirated, it serves as free publicity because people can't help themselves when it comes to speaking about something they got for free ilegally.
>>342620925
this is true
>>342620807
It's in sysWow64 as well but the game only tries to use it if it's in system32. Bottom is if it's in syswow64 or not in any relevant folder. Top is if it's in system32 or the bloodstained folder. It also still brings up the UE4 install thing after that error
I don't really understand why.
>>342618116
Speedrunners were a mistake.
>>342620925
This is the dumbest shit I've read all day.
>>342616952
he forgot to add a meme, too
Just tried it. Not sure if hype. It feels typical metroidvania, but not sotn level.
>the slide needs to be usable as an attack without getting hit yourself. inb4 use it at the right distance. That limits the ways it can be combined with other shit.
>cancelling the backdash with crouch seems to not be faster that just mashing backdash repeatedly.
>cancelling backdash into a jump does not retain horizontal momentum
>it's another game with tons of different attacks that are split into a small moveset that makes combining them not fun because you have to menu switch all the time. Lots of games do this and it breaks the flow of gameplay.
>3d makes the visual feedback from animations less snappy than you would get with sprites. I love the jump kick though.
>I want the combat to be more complex than sotn at least.
>>342618116
Nope. Did find that if you press down, attack and jump at the same time you'll do a standing slide movement ending in a crouch. Sadly, like the slide, not cancellable.
>>342620717
>Anyone who donates their money away without knowing what they are getting into deserves to lose it if it happens.
Agreed. It seems most people don't understand the system.
>Iga happens to have a good track record
Wasn't really saying anything negative towards the game itself. Bloodstained might be good. I've actually liked what I've seen so far.
>>342622034
You probably don't read your own posts then.
>>342608372
I tried it yesterday, and I don't understand what you are all so hyped about.
The enemy assets are OK, but everything else reeks of My First Unity Platformer Test. Anyone could put this together in a week or two (in a day with premade modules from the store), and these guys have spent a year on it.
That said, I'm not 100% dismissing it just yet, but colour me unimpressed.
On that note: Fuck, the colours and lighting is bad.
The textures also seem to be incredibly low resolution, and the game doesn't run very well on my laptop, despite the dated and minimalistic graphical fidelity.
>>342622034
but he's right
>>342622174
odds are you wont get half of that. Castlevania iga style has always been more about leveling and brutality. there was never really much effort into making a few finely tuned playstyles instead of just letting players run wild with whatever toy they could get their hands on, like weapons magics galore. Backdash probably doesn't translate into momentum because that could lead to sequence breaking. I'd like it to be a thing but thats probably how they'll see it. To be honest I think the game is mostly fine as it is mechanically, not to say I dont think more varied combos and the like wouldn't be an improvement, but I'd far rather them focus on interesting enemies and making the difficulty more, well, difficult, than giving the player more means to damage already weak enemies.
>>342613206
Did tho
Has anyone ripped the music from the demo yet?
>>342622174
>the slide needs to be usable as an attack without getting hit yourself.
This is literally how it has worked in every castlevania game
QT
>>342611393
There have literally been tons of good games out of kickstarter already
Just because you are unable to differentiate or accept any viewpoint other than THEY'RE ALL AMAZING or THEY'RE ALL SHIT doesn't change that
>>342622728
The demo was made for E3. They released it to backers only so the people who helped fund the game's development can gage the progress. It was never intended for a full scale release. As impressive as the demo is for how early it is in the dev cycle, it's still very much a work in progress and not ready for to be available to the mass public. People who backed already committed to buying the game. People who haven't backed obviously did not, so they don't want to release a rough demo to turn off prospective buyers. It's common fucking sense and not some stupid publicity stunt like that retard was claiming.
I haven't backed this (because poverty), but I'm actually pretty excited for it. I like Castlevania games a lot.
>>342623191
>with glasses
That'shot
I enjoyed the demo I just hope the full game is significantly harder.
>>342623494
If it was intentional or not, that is the effect it caused.
Otherwise most of you wouldn't even be talking about it right now.
>>342613206
>paying for games before they're out
This is how literally cucked /v/ has gotten.
What did they mean by this?
>>342624137
We did it!
>>342624137
>>342623035
I just realized the cuck who made the template erased the PS logo on her shirt, kek.
>>342624137
That they hit the goal for a ps4 version?
>>342624064
That may be the effect but it can't be a "publicity stunt" if it was unintentional. That's all I was arguing. And considering how many people wanted a new Metroidvania, how many people are on the Kickstarter hate bandwagon, and how much coverage Bloodstained has gotten I'm pretty sure it would still be heavily discussed even if the demo was made available to everyone.
>>342624137
They're publishing MGS6.
>>342608372
I thought this was out already? It still isn't out?
>>342624137
>>342624292
That the game got funded, period. PS4 is the definitive version afterall.
>>342624270
it makes sense when most of the edits would not be sony related
>>342624375
They began working on it last week, it seems.
They only just managed to slap together a quick Unity prototype, and the shills are going rampant.
>>342624423
Did sonyfags get a demo?
>>342624570
no the demo runs on PC
>>342624489
Edit should say "Castlevania". Nigga hated Belmont and the Vampire Killer, and ruined the franchise with his gay faggotry.
>>342618451
I'm sure there will be something
Remember the bat and wolf dashes from SotN
>>342624570
PS4 users are not beta tester cucks.
>>342624505
Haha
>>342624505
[u]
Does anyone have the mega link?
>>342613206
>backing smastarter
>>342623392
>tons of good kickstarter games
like what, exactly?
>>342608372
W-we'll get a dash r-right bros?
>>342625406
on top of my head shovel knight, Hyper light drifter, skullgirls
>>342622940
>momentum would lead to sequence breaking.
Well that's kind of the point of these games isn't it? Sotn had it, and it made the game better.
