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New expansion confirmed to be announced this october, how do you feel about it?
Excited for deep dungeon?
No.
Keep it in the general.
>>342601752
Yes, can't wait for them to drop Ps3 support and give us all the goodies
>>342601752
any inklings on setting or anything?
I wonder how many more patches HW will get.
They will somehow find a way to make sure the """""""expansion""""""" has even less content than HW did.
Is sam and rdm all but confirmed?
>>342602216
Who cares, SAM will probably be a lame ass tank and RDM will be DD
>>342601820
no
I'm already down to resubbing once for a patch and then unsubbing immediately, if they still support ps3 in the next expac im done with this game
>>342602173
3.5 will be the last one, just as ARR had the 2.5 as it's last one last year
Maybe it'll be Doma and Yugiri will be back soon
>>342602190
t. Salty WoW player
Does this game still have monthly fees like two years ago?
>>342602619
Why wouldn't it, it's doing great
>>342602607
It's a measurable fact that there has been less content released per patch cycle with HW.
>>342602173
We're going to take back Ala Mhigo from the Garleniggers
>>342601752
>New Xpack already when I just bought Heavensward and still havent reached level 60
Fuck this gay shit.
>>342602724
More like taking it back from the Garlericans and giving it back to the Ala Mhniggers
>>342602724
I really hope they bring back Red Mage so i cant stop being LOLDRG.
>haven't played since alex 1 savage progression
What did i miss ?
>>342602962
It's going to be ANNOUNCED in October. Probably won't be out for another year.
>>342603115
April or early May is possible. That's what they intended for HW, but it was delayed. It was their first real expansion, so hopefully they've learned from it and can better plan so that the next one isn't delayed.
>>342602712
The only things that come to mind that there has been less of is Primals (which ARR got away with because they had a bunch of 1.0 content to recycle) and dungeons (which is pretty much the same story, some of the ARR "Hard Mode" dungeons were lazy as all hell).
That isn't to say that HW has been fantastic, 3.1 in particular is probably the worst patch the game ever saw.
>>342602962
Stop being retarded, you still have a few more patches to catch up, after the final patch is released, which will be 3.5 or 3.58 you still have 3 or so more months before it actually becomes available to play.
>>342603418
Yeah. This last patch made up for it a bit though. Those maps are nice.
Although if I have to read "LOLOL TROLL DOOR #RainbowJesus" again it'll be too soon.
>>342603418
>3.1 in particular is probably the worst patch the game ever saw.
It really wasn't, though. People only say this because it added two major systems that nobody liked right on the coat tails of a 4 month period of a sparse post-expansion endgame. It still added a 24 man raid, 2 new dungeons, and a trial (even if it was just an Ex version of a pre-existing trial); all standard fare for the meat of the game's major patches.
Diadem was poorly conceived, but LoV is a legitimately well-crafted and fun game. It's a shame so few people appreciated it. And that's the real problem; people say they want new game mechanics and variety, but all they really want is more of the same dungeons and raid tiers.
If they had swapped 3.1 and 3.2, people would have been a lot more forgiving of the diadem and LoV and regarded the patch a lot better.
>>342604182
Furthermore, because it was the off patch for 8 man raids, that meant another whole patch of the first tier of Alexander that everybody hated.
3.1 was more a victim of 3.0 than anything else.
how bad of idea is it to go into coils via roulette blind
would people just quit because I'm a sprout, I play SCH
>>342604182
>LoV
>well-crafted
>fun game
are you fucking serious
>>342601752
My friend got me to try HW and you could play the expansion a week thanks to grace period and pre-order early access without buying the game.
I stopped playing after a week, 2 dungeons and teleporting around for outdoor fodder for those medals were all you did the first week. I immediately stopped playing, how can people could say it was fine and had good content were beyond delusional.
I'm not saying WoW is good, I haven't played since Cata but holy shit FFXIV doesn't have a fifth of content that WoW has with each expansion.
Red Mage will be a Melee Magic based DPS, their weapon of choice will be a rapier. They will work similar to spellfencers meaning that they can imbue their weapon with different magic effects. They have a few utility abilities like a MP goad for party members and can also apply magic resistance down to enemies. Finally, they have a few ranged spells but they aren't as potent as Black Mage's spells.
Beast Master is a Melee Pet based Tank, they can summon different pets with different functions similar to how Summoners can summon different egis. They have a large pet that tanks for them, they have a smaller pet that does good single target DPS, and they have another pet that focuses primarily on decent AoE damage. The Beast Master dual wields one handed axes and is designed to be a off tank job similar to Warrior but they can main tank well if they micromanage their tank pet effectively.
Dancer will be the healing job. Their weapon of choice is Chakrams (which can also be glamoured to be invisible kind of like Emperor's New Fists). Their main gimmick is the ability to combine dance moves similar to combining ninja mudras to create powerful support buffs or heals. They are designed to be less about raw healing potency and more about mitigating damage and supporting the party with buffs/shields kind of like Scholar and Nocturnal Sect Astrologian.
Please look forward to it.
>>342602306
That's your playerbase, go socialize with them.
>>342604182
>this whole post
Anon, please consider drinking bleach!
>>342603083
Nothing. Literally nothing worthwhile except for the "REEEEEBADDIENORMIESRPERSDIEREEEEXD" dying at sphere.
>>342604605
Cata at launch had less content than HW launch.
>>342601752
Its better a garlean addon with them suddenly turning good or at least cooperate for a while against the Ascians or some shit so we can have garlean classes. I dont want to fight them all the time, knowing they are by far the most capable guys around compared to that eorzean shithole with generic towns and characters seen a million time in other MMOs and JRPGs in general.
I don't want them to raise the level cap again. What would be the point? Class abilities are bloated enough as they are and slogging through 60 levels is already a chore, particularly for crafters/gatherers. All they would be doing is making all the current content irrelevant, although I guess they do that anyway by continually increasing the item level.
It would just be one more step towards the total stagnation of the game. Besides some new jobs, I'd like to see them do something to really shake up the current progression system. Like, redesign stats from scratch so that people actually have a degree of customization or choice and item level isn't the be-all and end-all of progression. If you make new abilities, rather than just having more shit we need to fit on our hotbars, make them alternate choices we can swap out our existing abilities for. Maybe jobs can actually have different builds then.
That's all a pretty tall order though considering how safe they played it with Heavensward. Most likely we're just going to get another level increase with another progression reset and all the HW content will become obsolete.
>>342605187
They could add something along the lines of talents or masteries.
>>342602303
Yoshi been saying since day one Sam will be a dd, red mage will end up as a healer because he hinted a familiar mage will be joining the healer ranks.
What went right?
>>342605187
The customization would be an illusion though, because people would just min-max for what is the best anyways for the content online. That is why I actually agreed with no talent specs or customization because while fun and interesting, only a small minority will actually be playing around while the rest are just like "fuck it" and google "best NIN build for raids"
They would have to make each build equally viable while playing different, and the chances of that are slim.
>>342604486
Not really, just watch videos and set up a party finder saying that you want to watch the story. From turn 1 up to turn 9 you will find members for your party really quick and it can be 4 maned just a healer a tank and a few dps and you are set. From coild 10 to 13 you will need just a little bit more knowledgable members but you can still find a party fairly quick, just say you are new and want to watch the story and people will help for sure
>>342604623
I'm down with this.
>>342605529
>Yfw it's been one year since WoW got a major patch update
>>342601752
I resubbed for the latest patch, got bored in a couple of days and I am now playing Marvel Heroes several hours a day
>>342605662
What if they let you specify your talents ONCE per class?
>>342605390
Talent builds end up being shit in games like this because everyone just picks the thing that will make them do the most dps/healing/mitigation and fuck everything else. They don't actually involve doing content either, you just pick your shit and off you go. If they just redesigned stats instead so that it was maybe a bit more complicated than "Stack X" it would give people a reason to look at "old" content if it had items they could use.
That's still not an ideal solution, but such a thing can't really exist in a themepark mmo based on treadmill progression. No matter which angle you approach it from, you wind up at a dead end eventually.
>>342605901
I bought Marvel Heroes on sale, I got bored after 2 minutes of playing, now I'm olaying FFXIV several days a week
>>342605390
or they could focus on adding more trait abilities that alter existing abilities instead of implementing more active abilities that clutter your hotbar.
or give raid gear set bonuses similar to WoW.
>>342605976
No way they would allow that, casuals would raise a fit over there. The whole allure of having one character be able to be every job would be out the window.
Also if that spec is awful due to balancing issues, it would be even worse.
just throwing this out there, the Ozma fight makes my dick rock hard. Them fucking visuals. I don't give two fucks about the story of this game, but holy fuck can Square make entertaining boss fights.
>>342605976
that's a absolutely horrible idea
>>342601752
When are they adding the datacenter wide party finder? 3.4 or 3.5?
>>342606162
>I got bored after 2 minutes of playing
well the first 90 minutes aren't terribly exciting.
Just like the first 20 hours of FF14 are rather dull.
But the endgame of Marvel Heroes is miles ahead of FF14. I actually die occasionally in MH. I never die in FF14.
>>342601752
I just bought this game. I'm a level 24 Thaumaturge or whatever the fuck, 23 weaver, 14 alchemist, 8 miner. So far I can't seem to stop playing. I've been missing that MMO vibe for awhile and this delivers on any level that I would want it too. The crafting is really cool. I came from WoW so everything is really familiar. Fug.. I'm so stoked on this game. Been crafting like a mug inbetween dungeon ques. Still need to get Heavensward but I'm glad they announced something new. Coming into this late, I'm glad to see a foreseeable future.
>>342606708
>I came from WoW
Never mention this fact anywhere.
>>342606809
What's wrong with it? I started on Day 1 vanilla and played till MoP. Was my first MMO, yo.
I hope they consider adding more midcore content. The main problem I have with this game is that there's only two spectrums. Casual duty finder content that's easy enough to cheese through and then there's hardcore savage mode which requires a static and minmaxing your ass off to get anything done. Extreme primals are great since it's in the middle difficulty and you don't need a static to beat it, but there's not enough of them.
>>342605882
Why is it that every time I see some macro shitter it has to be some DRK or SCH/SMN?
3.5 will include special materia that modifies your skills a little. For example MCH will get a materia that let's your wildfire benefit a little from all DPS of the group, or one that shortens the CD of all your self-buffs. They need to be melded into your chest piece and are mutually exclusive. You can either improve your support capabilities or your DPS capabilities. This will be done for all classes, offering a more vertical progression with materia that stays relevant for the whole lifespan of XIV.
>>342606302
Okay, what if we let them change it, but only once every X span of time, kinda like the crafter stones.
And make traits that allow different playstyles, like giving an actual use for skill speed on melees, (giving more dots to dragoon in skills, for example) in one path (and reducing jump's cds/adding extra perks to the jumps) in other.
>>342601752
>how do you feel about it?
If it is just more of the same, then I'm not interested. I don't give a shit about Ala Mhigo anyway. The new classes won't add anything worthwhile to the game, just fill your already full armory chest.
They really do need to change shit up, because new Tomestones of Faggotry and weekly cap shit is long stale.
>>342605187
>people in the official forum want vertical progression with 'interesting' items
>but only locked behind savage
Why so elitist?
>>342607357
People have been eating up WoW's badge/token system for over a decade now, they aren't changing what prints money.
>>342605662
>>342605976
There already is customization in the game in the form of materia. Minmaxers already are using it to stack stats, but it's so expensive that most people just use raid gear.
>Play the game off and on since 1.0 release ages ago
>Enjoy myself mostly because of my FC
>most of FC friends scatter to the winds and transfer off server while I was taking one of my breaks
>come back right before Final Coil was Echo-fied
>Finish T9-T12 with no problems, still enjoying myself
>Literally Fall alseep during Dive Bombs in T13
And that was when I knew I was done.
>>342607902
>There already is customization in the game in the form of materia
>People still wipe at the DPS check in Final Steps of Faith DF
>>342607902
Anon... they went out of their way to nerf the shit out of penta-melded gear/accessories because they didn't like how "strong" they were, ie: they were outclassing raid gear and we can't have that now can we.
>>342608196
>mfw DF wiped to Fist of the Son normal, and it wasn't even to bombs
>>342607902
>so expensive
200k-300k per materia is hardly expensive. Even then you can buy some rank IVs for much less, and you're given a rank V materia every week by the 24 man raid.
And there's no customization to be had by materia. All you do is reach the acc cap and then slot in crit>det>skill speed same as everyone else.
>>342601752
>New expansion confirmed to be announced this october
Where was that confirmed, or are you just guessing because of the fan fest?
>>342602469
Doubt it. There's still Alexander final, the two other halfs of the Warring triad and the final Void raid to be added. They are not holding those and major patches in general back until new expac in 2017.
I just broke up with my girlfriend and have no drive to play the game anymore. What do?
>>342608662
quit being a faggot and play something else.
>>342608764
Oh, okay. Thank you, friend.
>>342608662
Did your girlfriend NTR you with a dickgirl?
>>342608196
This is why I wish parsers were official in this game. It's very difficult to tell who's not pulling their weight in DPS to beat these checks. You can tell people "just hit them harder", but what good is that if the BRD is still doing less damage than a DRK.
>>342608642
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/24/final-fantasy-xivs-next-expansion-revealed-october-fan-festival/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+siliconera%2FMkOc+%28Siliconera%29
>>342608871
No problem.
>>342604182
>but LoV is a legitimately well-crafted and fun game
No, it isn't. It's half-assed, controls terrible on both M+KB and controller, easy to exploit and only the most tryhard contentfags do it. It's never fun and not worth the few extra minions you get for achievements.
Also nobody asked for it except a tiny minority and the shithead who came up with it. It was a april fools after all, ffs! Those resources could have been put into fixing anything else about Gold Saucer, or a new sidestory. Or early Hildibrand.
>>342608980
Its not perfect, but you can watch the threat meters for a general idea of how people are doing in single target fights.
Tanks will always be ahead if they aren't complete garbage, but dps should have a sizable headway on the tank's threat too. If their bar is really low, it means they're probably slacking.
>>342609115
Japanese players asked for it, not everything has to revolve around amurricans and yuropoors.
>>342608980
It is kinda lame that even with a parser and knowing the numbers, it'd be forbidden to even suggest that someone pick up their slacking a bit.
Remember to call out mentor shitters any opportunity you get.
>>342609001
Neat. I hope they give us more than just a tease like last time.
>>342609186
Watching threat meters does give you some indication but like you said, it's not perfect since enmity dump abilities like Quelling Strikes, Elusive Jump, SmokeScreen, etc exist.
>>342609219
>not everything has to revolve around amurricans and yuropoors.
Everything revolves around the japanese playbase, shithead.
>>342609546
>All of the monster girls have huge tits and big asses and generally sexy bodies
>The 'heroes' are usually flat chests, dog noses and always no-asses.
>>342605529
people forgetting about 1.0
>doing keeper of the lake for the first time as healer
>in the middle of the run the tank says to wait a sec for TP
>dps decides he should just tank instead, pulls the mobs and nearly kills the other dps in the process along with himself
>watch the cutscene for the boss because this is coolest fucking dungeon so far
>see "The area has closed off"
>get out of the cutscene
>same dps went straight into the place and started attacking while I wasn't even there, tank and the other dps waited
>gets dismissed and immediately replaced
why do people do this?
>>342609707
Femroes and Highlanders are pretty busty but I want them to make that succubus bitch look small.
>>342609819
I have no idea anon. Watching a dungeon cutscene is literal retard tier.
>>342609819
this is what you get for playing on the aether datacenter like a dumbass jit.
WHO /fanfest/ HERE
>>342609851
Femroes and Highlanders are part of the 'no ass' brigade.
>>342604623
This is gold,would play
>>342610063
nobody has ass
>>342604623
Didn't they say they'd be doing one job releases for a bit as 3 was too "taxing"?
I mean I'd play the shit out of that Red Mage and Dancer, but still.
>>342609819
>Wanderer's Palace normal
>tank does not pull all mobs together
>I'm okay with this since all other roulettes I've been in had tryhard full materia raid shits trying to speedrun
>other BLM tells them to pull everything
>tank doesn't so BLM starts to pull
>also commands us to focus boss only
Can't catch a break from speedrunning.
>>342610149
asses are gay anyways, it's all about plump lalafell thighs.
>>342606708
Make sure you are doing the Ixal quests for crafters
Does anyone know if there's an active linkshell on hyperion?
>>342609819
>aurum Vale as scholar
>tank has multiple pieces of ilvl 5 gear, some 15 and none at or above his actual level
That was not fun
>>342602045
>implying they will ever drop PS3 support
As long as nips are still playing on that machine, they aren't dropping shit. Unless Sony pulls the plug on PS3's PSN.
>>342610619
>>342609819
Got anymore green text stories involving DF?
BLUE MAGE W H E N
>>342610849
I want it too, but I don't see how it could work as people want, with learning monster abilities on the fly. Being able to bad breath enemies would be fucking great though.
>>342610847
Nothing recent for dungeons, but
>need to get 8 boarskins
>market too pricy
>decide to kill some
>the ONE time I need to farm something there's a bunch of shits killing them
>there never was anyone in the past two weeks any other time I went to east shrod for other things
>a BRD with a chocobo farming boars
>then a group of another BRD, Chocobo and a 50+ NIN killing everything
>NIN has lower lever gear
>clearly spiritbonding
>it's levek 1 gear
>enemies are around level 20
People are fucking stupid.
>>342611036
Well, I mean, you already get abilities from class quests, I don't see how it'd be any different in this case.
Maybe make it a DPS/Control class.
>>342610849
>>342611036
Adapt it to fit an MMO then. Instead of spells, you steal stats.
Make it a tank that chooses between stealing enemy damage or enemy defense.
Alternate between doing more damage yourself, or taking less damage depending on the situation.
I bought FFXIV after watching Netoge.
Any tips?
I haven't played a MMORPG seriously.
>>342610619
>melding 2 dirt cheap materias in your safe slots
>tryhard
>>342611314
What job and race do you want to play?
>>342602173
Most likely helping the Ala Mhiggers take back their shithole from the Garleans, after the Garleans already built infraestructure and stuff.
>>342601752
Shit, I better finish Heavansward then
>>342602045
Has this ever been even hinted at? I'd love for PS3 support to drop as well but I can't imagine that they'd actually do it.
>>342604605
WoD has less content than the average down syndrome kids mind.
>>342611569
It was mentioned in one of the live letters a while back that ps3 support would be dropped in 4.0
>>342604172
Aquapolis is awesome.
>>342611314
Tell me about that image. I must know what it is for raid purpose.
>>342611384
That is coming from someone who already melded all 240 pieces, but I have yet to meet one of those in a PUG dungeon who doesn't act like a short tempered cunt who values their seconds more than a nice group run. They're the ones who call out others for their own mistakes.
>>342605141
I'd rather help the garleans than the ala mhiggers tbqh senpai
>>342611640
>>342611640
Melding materia onto gear is dirt cheap and easy as fuck to do now. It's literally easier then enchanting WoW gear. Frankly everyone should be doing it.
>>342611640
I seldom have people talk in my roulettes, and I usually don't complain when people are playing badly, because it's just not worth the effort.
Either way there is no reason to not meld any gear you get now that materia is dirt cheap and you don't need a crafter for safe slots anymore
>>342611734
Talking bout that particular mag and not the animu. I need to know for my FC.
>>342611834
Why yes, but that's not the point of my comment.
>>342610619
Personally, I prefer speedrunning since DF dailies give such a ridiculous amount of EXP but it takes about two to three hours to finish them all. I don't understand how people with full time jobs can consistently level up, unless they just don't which is an awful waste of a subscription.
That being said though, a DPS being bitchy and pulling enemies out of turn is just shitty. If the tank or healer aren't up to speedrunning then you're gonna make it worse by forcing it upon them. Better to just go with the flow and not turn a 30min dungeon into 45min or 60min. God forbid someone gets pissy and just fucking leaves, potentially ruining everything. Thankfully, lower level dungeons are much more lenient; I've tanked the entirety of Tam-Tara Deepcroft as a Bard. That was pretty fun.
>>342611125
That happened to me recently with Antelope Horns. Thankfully, it was only that one day but I'd be really fucking annoyed if it kept happening.
>>342611612
No, they said PS3 support would no longer be a certainty. They may drop it, but if they feel it's going to cost them a significant number of subs, you better believe they'll keep it. The SE publishing overlords aren't going to let them throw away money like that.
This is the same company that released an expansion for XI on PS2 in 2013.
>>342611314
Become a healer like Ako
>>342611612
Oh wow. I know a few people who are still playing FF14 on PS3 because they're too cheap/poor to get a PS4 and they're willing to deal with that absurd framerate and atrocious loading times. I feel bad for them since they'll need to buy a PS4, plus the game and both expansions.
>>342612409
If they do decide to drop PS3, I'm expecting them to do a limited time offer where you can trade your PS3 license for a PS4 license at no charge. They did this when the PS4 version just came out.
Jobs that should come in future expansions:
Red Mage - DPS (Rapiers)
Samurai - DPS (Katanas)
Gunblade class - DPS (Gunblade)
Dancer - Healer (Dual Fans)
Blue Mage - Tank
Beastmaster - Tank (Whips + Pets)
Any others?
>>342612184
>Better to just go with the flow and not turn a 30min dungeon into 45min or 60min.
this
>dps tells the tank to go faster and pull more instead of doing a pack or two at a time
>tank clearly isn't very experienced with the dungeon
>tank overpulls, healer panics, everyone dies
>all time that might have been saved doing a big pull was wasted because everyone wiped
>would have been faster to just let him pull a couple packs at a time
>>342612184
>a DPS being bitchy and pulling enemies out of turn is just shitty.
>do guildhest with that sylph
>healer pulls the last mob while we're still on the one with slugs
>let him get beat a little until I aggro them
>someone marks the sylph while I'm holding everything and the DPS are actually hitting the "boss"
>likely the healer
>get one commendation
I find pulling healers worse than a DPS, at least as a tank.
But
>first guildhest
>pugilist pulls a mob
>I go to the other
>he tries to get first on the last mob with "boss"
>I get two commendations
I'd like to think that one was for letting him get hit a little.
How do I choose a main?
I have 5 jobs to 60 and can't decide which to get my anima weapon on.
What would you want for 4.0 in terms of exploration and atmosphere?
>>342612860
What role do you enjoy most? Narrow it down from there.
>>342611314
Start with what you think seems fun to play and stick with it. Don't worry too much about leveling up a ton of different classes, although you do need to get a second class at least up to 15 depending on your advanced job decision. For example, Paladins need to level up the White Mage to 15 and Black Mages need to level up the Archer to 15.
Don't worry about which jobs are better or worse; in the end, every job is perfectly viable in every situation. What's far more important than min-maxing is that you're having fun. Otherwise, what are you even playing for?
Later on, consider leveling up a role you're not familiar with. For example, if you leveled up a tank to 50, try leveling up a healer or DPS class next. It's good to have an understanding of how the entire party works. Don't feel obligated to max out every job unless you really want to though; just stick with your favorites at first.
Ignore Crafting and Gathering classes until you hit 50. It's a massive waste of time unless you're willing to go ALL THE WAY. Who's knows if you'll even like the game by then. Also, level up Gathering classes before crafting classes. Also also, fuck Culinarian; it's fucking useless unless you're doing super serious min-maxing savage difficulty type shit.
You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
>You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
>You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
>You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
Once you get your chocobo, every class/job can use it regardless of level.
>You get your Chocobo at Lv.20. Don't forget it.
>>342610847
I have DF story
>Leveling my AST
>Get DD, I'm missing redraw but not that important of a skill for just a dungeon
>Tank pulls the first 2 dogs
>My instinct tells me to run directly to the crystals
>Tank stays there taking the 2 dogs
>I heal him but he dies anyway
>Tell him to run to the cyrstals, since they make you pretty much unkillable
>He quits
>I proceed to tank most of the rest of the dungeon with a summoner
I also had another run there with a BLM that just didn't want to get inside the crystals even though I typed it in chat like 50 times. I was tempted to get him to die but I wanted to get that shit done.
>>342613090
Nice job I sometimes forget a Titan Egi/Topaz exist. His loss though for quitting without even trying again.
>>342613070
Oh also, an important tip I forget to mention.
Generally speaking DPS jobs are easier to handle, or at the very least they have lighter responsibilities than the other roles. On the other hand, they're also the most common jobs by far and large so you'll be spending a lot of time waiting to get picked up for parties. Because of this, and if you're daring, you might want to consider choosing a tank or healer role. Both roles are almost guaranteed to get into parties near-instantly, and Tanks almost always get an "Adventurer in need" EXP bonus since no one every wants to play as a Tank for whatever reason.
Of course, you can, and should, do story quests and side quests while you wait for the game to organize and party and dungeon for you. Just keep in mind that those wait times will average about 20min for DPS, while Healers and Tanks rarely wait longer than 2min.
>>342609345
I call people out for their shitty dps all the time, even kick them if they're especially bad, and I've never gotten as much as a warning. Most of the fun I get out of this game nowadays is running experts with my friends and kicking underperforming players right before the final boss.
You'll only get in trouble if you're being overly aggressive, swearing, admitting to parsing and complaining about someone's dps all at the same time.
>>342613090
>>Tell him to run to the cyrstals, since they make you pretty much unkillable
IIRC it only prevents you from getting any damage from the Ahriman. Also there's another mob there than can hit very hard and be annoying to dodge if the tank is undergeared.
>>342613446
>dps jobs are easier
You don't know what you're talking about, nigger.
>>342607902
>materia is customization
No, since there are stat weights for every class. There's always a type of materia better than the other ones.
>>342613547
See this, /v/? This is a prime example of a wowfag-tier player.
This game isn't dead yet, what the fuck?
Is it just living off the power of franchise fanboy autism?
>>342613090
Oh man, Dzmael Darkhold right? I've never had that big of a problem there. I feel bad for you but at least you made it through. Good job.
I think the worst I had was a Tank that didn't understand the attack "Singe" from the first boss of Stone Vigil. He's in for a rude awakening when he fights the cyclops in Arurum Vale.
Man, I really wish this shit had in game voice chat. I would make communicating so much fucking easier.
>>342610840
They have literally said on multiple occassions at cons that they are dropping PS3 support with this expac.
>>342613759
Brand power and that it's the only decent sub only MMO on the market left. WoW is basically a F2P game now with it's 1 year patch cycle and paying gametime with gold.
>Final Fantasy XV will never have the charm and personality of Final Fantasy XIV
>>342613762
>dzmael darkhold
>dps are two summoners
>sweet, I'll pull everything up to the first door
>neither of them AoE
>even with the huge damage reduction eventually healer can't keep up because they just run out of mana because the summoners are single targeting everything
>>342613596
Personally, I don't find them to be easier but I feel like most of the community does. I think you'd have an easier time finding a competent DPS than you would a competent Healer or Tank.
Shit, I remember one time in Stone Vigil that the healer only did Cure 3 until I explained that higher level cures don't replace lower level ones. Then all he did was Cure 2 the whole dungeons. At least we made it through in the end.
>Tfw enjoyed DRG from 1-50
>Tfw it just gets annoying at 60 with how tight your rotations have to be
>Tfw switching to MNK because if I have to do that shit I'd rather be jackie channing some motherfuckers
>>342601752
UNDERWATER EXPANSION CONFIRMED
>>342613547
>Most of the fun I get out of this game nowadays is running experts with my friends and kicking underperforming players right before the final boss.
Oh fuck you, that's just fucking low.
>>342613387
>>342613762
I was gonna tell summoner to use Titan but it was easier to just dps faster and get it done.
Dzmael can be the killer of many noobs same with Aurum Vale.
Funny thing is, the tank was a DRK, meaning he had to have cleared this dungeon at least once before if he was doing GC.
>>342613549
The Crystal Veil buff is supposed to act as a counter for the Ahriman attack but in reality it's just a Vulnerability down buff with a different name. I don't know if it's a bug or not but test it out, it reduces ALL damage. That's why people make DD farming groups until the first boss, because you can pretty much breeze through it with the bonus defense
>>342613908
>AOE kings / single target shitters
>no AOE's, single target only
It's like a bad joke. I feel bad that you had to go through that.
>>342613090
>Sohm Ahl
>second mob
>PLD loses a lot of health and barely can hold aggro
>notice that he doesn't have shieldoath on
>tell him to please activate it
>leaves
>yesterday Anti-tower
>sweet, a good number of stones for me!
>tank leaves a few seconds after the start
>no new tank
>leave
>reque
>Fractal
FFS
>>342614151
>>342613721
It's the only way to wake up the shitters. Maybe they'll actually take some time to research their class afterwards and learn how to actually pull their weight when playing with other people.
>>342614214
I haven't been there a while as a tank, but I could have sworn they barely hit weaker.
>>342614091
mnk is magical
>>342614389
Do you at least tell them they're underperforming? How are they gonna know?
>>342614214
If anyone in my party is a MCH, DRK, or AST and they're doing shitty, I get pretty mad. I'll give MCH a pass if they're a low level since that's kind of complicated and it's a lot of new skills at once, but low level DRK and AST are literally just copy paste low level WAR and WHM. You had to get pretty fucking far in the game to unlock them so I don't want to hear any excuses. Hell, I had a DRK in Lost City of Amdapor (Normal) who kept complaining that the DPS wouldn't target the same enemy he was targeting and that he was running out of MP too quickly. He also accused me of not knowing DRK when I had already gotten PLD, WAR, and DRK to 60. Somehow, we made it through to the end but fucking hell that was annoying.
I understand that not everyone is an expert but by the time you start hitting the optional Lv.50 dungeons, you need to start knowing what you're doing or pick a different class. Or fucking give up altogether, I don't know what else to tell you.
>>342614389
>It's the only way to wake up the shitters.
It isn't. For all they know you just kicked them to make room for a friend, or to get the sweet loot related to the job you just kicked.
Or simply because you're a dick. That however would be a correct assumption. You don't seem to tell them why you kick and even if, you're still a waste of time to everyone and pure cancer to the community.
>want to play drk
>have to play gladiator to 34 for useful tank skill
>could barely make it to 22
Are there any non edgelord swords to glamor anyway?
>>342614316
I don't know what's wrong with this game but for some reason whenever you tell someone to do something they get extremely passive aggresive or defensive about it. I had a lot of catgirls tell me to "Chill down hun" just by saying stuff like "Fire2 works better for a lot of mobs than single target"
It's even worse with mechanics, "Hey there's this big AOE that you keep getting hit with, here's how to avoid it..." "LOL SHUT UP I KNOW UGH"
I don't know what's with this deaf mentality but at this point I prefer to take the 30min penalty and go to the store to buy something than to stay trying to gives these rocks some advice
>>342614389
When it's DF dailies, I let shitters pass as long as they're not completely ruining the run. Of course, raids are a completely different story but even then I wouldn't just kick them out right before the final boss unless they're poor performance is preventing victory. At the very least, I'd discuss how they could improve first and then see how they do before giving up on them.
>the best looking face is the one with the worst default settings so noboy ever picks it
>>342615078
>face is tied to the hornstyle
hate this shit
>>342615078
what the fuck is that thing
>>342614990
It's not always bad players. Sometimes it can be someone who had a really bad day, or someone who thinks this is not an issue for their friends so it should be one for the PUG.
>>342614917
The iLvL205 greatsword from PvP is pretty fucking awesome. It's definitely my personal favorite greatsword.
It's called Guillotine of the Fury.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/playguide/db/item/26b5255c527/
Bosses in this game make me so fucking mad.
Fucking EVERY boss goes invulnerable every 10 goddamn seconds so you can never use things like Wildfire/Dreadwyrm/etc.
If you use it too early, it goes to waste because you lose a lot or all of its added damage due to their invul. And if you try to save it for the perfect moment that's multiplicativly less dps that you've lost by not using it.
And fights have too much fucking movement. It's so unfair because some classes are totally unaffected by it and do stupid amounts of damage while others fall to the bottom and can never climb back up, it's bullshit.
>>342615410
G E T
U
D
>>342614773
I had a run with a tank diva recently who was just what you described. As a tank he's going to have to learn to deal with people not targeting the same mob he is. He needs to learn how to hold aggro and constantly tab between targets to check hate tables and tossing that enmity multiplier skill. No one does that 1 2 3 hand holding stuff by the 50+ dungeons if not earlier so he's gonna be in for a rude awakening as he progresses more through the game.
>>342614990
I feel you on that. The only that pisses me off on the receiving end is when I'm told to turn of Cleric Stance and the dungeon hasn't even started yet. If you're a healer and you're not using Cleric Stance, then you're fucking up.
>>342615410
bosses just need to not go invuln/untargetable when they jump away so shit like wildfire can go off, it's fine to have mechanics where you don't have to hit the boss but keep the boss floating in the air so dots and shit still tick.
>>342614990
It's walking on eggshells friend.
>>342615410
Certain classes are better for certain dungeons than others, but all classes are perfectly viable for every situation. It can get pretty damn frustrating but don't let it get to you. It's just a small problem that's not worth getting worked up over.
we are going to doma or to Ala Mhigo
samurai or red/blue mage or maybe both will get added
ps3 support is highly likely to get dropped for 4.0
only way of telling where we are going story wise is clearly only going to be told in the next few content updates
fuck cat shits and jew potatos
i quit shortly after 3.1. is it time to come back yet?
>>342615519
Exactly. I was extremely adamant with my 1 2 3's for the vast majority of my leveling until I got sick and tired of that shit and decided to see if I can just deal with hate getting pulled in different directions. In the end, it's a lot easier and faster to just do it that way.
Number markers certainly have their place, don't get me wrong, but numbering every fucking group of mobs is just bad practice.
>>342615801
dunesfolks are the jews, plainsfolks are bros.
learn the difference.
>>342615947
Wait for 3.35. They are adding a new progression system. If not, wait for 3.4
>>342616075
>They are adding a new progression system
No they aren't. Palace of the Dead is its own thing.
>>342616075
Did they give exact info yet on how the EXP in Palace will scale to real gains?
>>342616293
Apparently you can level up there. PotD is level 17+ content.
>>342610060
Reporting in.
Virtual Queue was some bullshit.
>>342616293
Sort of. You can take some high level weapons out of there though. I think they're the 2nd highest iLvl weapons, under the anima ones, of course. So it can help progress.
>>342614791
>>342614690
They know they're being kicked. I complain about what they're doing or give them tips during the run. We mostly kick french/german people who queue up with english selected for faster queues, even though they can't actually speak english. Sometimes it is the people who wait 30 seconds after every single pull chatting with their FC or jerking off, and sometimes it is the people who just auto attack and never use any weaponskills. It's usually fine if they have an excuse and actually try to communicate with us, but most of the time they just remain silent. That's the problem with the EU database, nobody ever talks, nobody understands any english, and nobody has any clue what they are doing.
>>342616513
What database are you on?
>>342610847
Not very recent but.
>Syrcus tower post WoD drop.
>Our group A is either full of newbies or shutters.
>Wipe several times on Scylla because and entire group is wiped and we can't stop the petrified.
>Finally get to a point where we barely have enough people to trigger the barrier.
>Group S is missing one person and my platform has one extra so I Spineshatter and back flip to them as DRG.
It was the least competent run of that place I had ever seen.
>>342615801
Everyone keeps saying Doma or Ala Mhigo but I personally find Sharlayan to be more likely, with a major event in the story taking place on a moon. I say this mainly because neither Doma or Ala Mhigo have been mentioned much at all after the halfway point of Heavensward but Sharlayan gets mentioned a lot, what with Idylshire being one of their larger abandoned cities and Matoya endlessly talking shit about them. Several dungeons in the Hinterlands also give a glimpse into how Sharlayan is. I'm just about to fight Nidhogg's shade now so unless there's a ridiculous exposition regarding Doma or Ala Mhigo, I'm just not seeing it.
Furthermore, the Garlean Empire is the second strongest villainous force in the game, behind the Ascians, Waltzing into either Doma or Ala Mhigo, both Garlean occupied, would be met with a ridiculous amount of resistance, and I can't see a move of that level until maybe 5.0.
The only major problem I'm having with Sharlayan is how much they hate outsiders. Anyone who's gotten past Lv50 in the AST story line knows what I'm talking about, but maybe that can be worked in the story. Maybe Sharlayan gets attacked by the Garlean Empire and they're desperate for assistance? Either way, it still seems more plausible to me than either Doma or Ala Mhigo.
>>342616638
Chaos
>>342616293
They literally said multiple times that you get some actual EXP and gear from it, just not the same quantity obviously.
>>342616746
How does that make it a new progression system? It's just another place to level up in.
>>342616680
>Group S.
Group A
Goddamn I need to proofread when I'm typing on mobile.
>>342616513
Those reasons are different and perfectly valid. That being said though, I have never had it that bad. Well, I did have a Tank only auto-attack for Shiva normal, but that's all that comes to mind. I feel bad for euro players now.
>>342616691
There's a side quest after finishing the 3.3 MSQ that takes you back through the HW storyline, and naturally Ala Mhigo is brought up when you talk to Raubahn. It's not like it's ALA MHIGO CONFIRMED but it was touched on.
>>342616780
all the exp you earn in palace of the dead isn't a 1 for 1 outside of it
deep dungeon has it's own leveling and gear inside it
>>342616927
>go commemorate all your fallen friends
>Minfilia not even mentioned
>>342616959
They're not convinced shes dead/lost yet. They might even pull a magic asspull like Yshtola's situation.
>>342616701
What server? Because I'm Chaos too and I've never experienced any of what you have been described.
Although, I did get kicked by a group before the final boss in Stone Vigil Hard. Tank and heal were fooling around and fucked up on the last mobs which killed them. Me last (other DPS survived) and the tank didn't grab two rogue dragons. I ended up dragging those two to the group because they couldn't be avoided.
I'm sure they kicked me because of that. Besides tank being dead a lot thanks to his pockethealer fucking up, the run went fast and mobs died quick.
>>342617091
Boobfilia will return!
poiler]As your sidekick you can dress up.[/spoiler]
>>342617091
I'm guessing she'll be back in future cutscenes but I hope she stays part of Hydaelyn since that makes her infinitely more useful and interesting and I want the writers to have some balls already.
>>342613070
>Also also, fuck Culinarian; it's fucking useless unless you're doing super serious min-maxing savage difficulty type shit.
You must have a pretty fast and loose definition of the word "useless." CUL has the best cross-class skills, raid food is always going to be in high demand so it's great and consistent at making money, and you need crafter food to do any real crafting.
>>342617575
Bruh this game is easy. If food is making the difference between clearing and not for your raid you're either pushing first week progression or fucking up badly.
Should I keep leveling NIN or turn around and switch to MNK? Not sure I enjoy the former all that much
>tfw secretly want a RDMtank
>>342617745
Food makes the difference between you missing your attacks or not or getting a HQ craft instead of a NQ.
>>342617745
Raid food makes you do more damage and gives you more HP, literally nowhere did I say that it makes or breaks clears, all I said is that it is constantly in demand. I don't care if you don't want to do your best but other people do and I make money off of them.
>>342615078
>best face
that looks like shit
>>342616780
levels and gear outside don't matter in palace of the dead, it has it's own gear system, level system, and item system.
What's the minimum ACC I need for Alex savage 1 - 8?
heard they may expand inventory space. Also how are you doing on your 240 relic, I'm at 69/240
>>342618361
>>342617180
It shouldn't really matter since all of the datacenter is connected in the DF.
>>342617745
Seconded
>>342617575
I don't mean to be an ass but money comes in easy as fuck and the only thing you'll really "need" it for is buying materia. Otherwise, you can easily make 500,000gil a month just through ventures and selling what you don't want. The EXP bonus is nice I can more easily farm 99 Aligator Pears and be good to go. As for cross-class skills, I'll certainly give you Hasty Touch at Lv.15; that move is fucking insanely good. Not quite as good as that other one that guarantees progress at low efficiency but Hasty Touch is awesome, But nothing else worth investing in CUL until you get other crafting classes to 50. By that point though, you're obviously dedicated enough to go all the way so you're going to be leveling every crafting class anyway.
Dancers and Vieras when
>>342615078
Isn't that the most common one? They all look like fish
>>342618396
They confirmed at E3 live letter that armory chest and inventory space will be increased in 4.0
Also, I'm not bothering with relic. Such a huge grind for a weapon that's going to get replaced anyways.
>>342618246
They've already confirmed that, eventually, you'll be able to take out gear from PotD to use in the main game. It's a long ass grind but it is possible and some people are saying that it can be as high as ILvL220 or 230. Also, you get main game EXP at a low rate so it's also another way to level alternate classes. If I'm not mistaken, it can also be accessed early in the game, which give content for new and veteran players to play in together and it benefits both of them.
Some of this stuff is major speculation though but it is confirmed that you can take gear out at the endgame of PotD.
>>342618427
I'm not sure if that's true. I believe the DF only pulls from it's own server cluster. I could be wrong though.
>>342618538
Honestly, it's only worth it for the look and the achievement. Do it if you have nothing else to do. And by that I mean, if every class if already at 60.
>>342617904
Keep leveling NIN. It may be repetitive but so is MNK. At least with NIN you have some utility that every group will love you for.
>>342618464
Careful Synthesis? Only CS1 is low efficiency at 90%, but CS2 is 120%. You forget steady hand 2 as well, so you have half of the bread and butter crafting skills (hasty, SH2, byregot, CS2) on one class. 500k in a month is a fucking joke, you can make that in a couple hours gathering and crafting things, and if you are actually a crafter you would realize the importance of gil and food. I know this is /v/ and it seems like the normal thing to do but please don't try and present your very ill informed opinion as fact.
daily reminder that most people quit XIV shortly after heavensward came out. the only people left ITT are ERPing waifu avatarfags. you know this to be true
>>342617904
I have NIN to 60 and geared.
It's a very...boring job, honesty. It doesn't have any high moments. When you want to "go ham" you just activate your damage buffs and spam all your moves. It doesn't have a very engaging or complex playstyle. All it does it spam 1 2 3 and reapply debuffs every once in a while.
It doesn't feel as satisfying as other dps
>>342618421
Oh, neat. Thank you!
>>342618868
Duty Finder connects you with people from your datacenter. So if you're on Aether, you can only get grouped up with people from these servers.
>>342619074
>my friends quit so everyone must have quit
>>342618950
>achievement
>now every Heavensward relic has one beyondtier 1
TH-THANKS, YOSHI!
>>342619074
>>342618421
I also want to point out that Niddhog Extreme accuracy is slightly above A5S since it's not on the chart.
>>342609115
I just played LoV for the first time last night.
It's meh. It's not that bad, the controls aren't bad on M+KB if you're familiar with RTSes and how Squeenix does shit. But the fact that it's basically a MOBA without any actual useful skills and a STUPID system that only lets you use the skills they have IF you have 4 or more of the SAME unit out is retarded.
I usually mix n match a few units, then have 2 gank squads: a set of Odins or Raubahns, then a set of Bombs for Shield-rape & emergency "BLOW THEM NIGGAS UP BEFORE THEY OVERRUN YOU"
For the NPC bosses I throw out 4 Warriors of Light if they're Monsters, useful dmg skill + strength against them. Granted, I did this on my newer alt that doesn't have even half the pets my main name does so I could've probably had better options there.
The biggest problem, IMO, is selecting those "quad groups" - If you pick a 5th unrelated unit by mistake, you can't use the skill, so you have to pick one of them instead and keep them close together. It needs what SC had: The ability to set a group to a hotkey then hit that hotkey to choose that group again, assuming none died. Problem is, if any die, you don't have time to regroup them.
Is it true that Gilgamesh is the reddit server? I have friends on there that want me to transfer.
>>342612587
Sorry Anon, Samurai will be a tank.
Dancers will use Chakrams or Tambourines or some shit.
Blue Mage we can't speculate on due to their very nature.
No Gunblades, because fuck FF8 and fuck you for liking it.
>>342620921
Yes, that and Excalibur. Sadly they are also the most active.
>>342620921
Gilgamesh is the server people flock to for raiding, because of this there's a population of shitty players.
>>342613070
You don't get your Chocobo "at" 20. You get it from the lv20 MSQ. Don't confuse the nigga like most of us were at first.
>>342602607
>implying WoWfugees don't make the majority of XIV's playerbase
>>342615078
Goddamn nigga, I never thought I'd see an Au'ra that looked bad but you managed to do that easily with your horrible color choices and those eyes.
>party leader gets so mad about losing loot he turns on lootmaster
>>342616680
A DRG that actually plays well and thinks about more than his DPS? Nigga you need to turn in your DRG card, you're shit at being shit.
>>342621440
Say, can you lootmaster maps and Aquapolis?
>>342613894
>FFXIV charm comes from recycled mob assets one of which still has cocoon writing on it
Bravo Yoshida
>>342621640
I quit shortly after HW dropped so if I pick it back up again I'll probably be shit. I'll probably level up PLD or WAR to sharpen my awareness again. But I remember having to off tank because of shitty tanks plenty of times in HW'S dungeons so hopefully I can save groups from that fate.
>>342621952
This is exactly why I play mostly PLD and WHM. If you want something done right, nigga you gotta do it yourself.
>>342621174
>because of this there's a population of shitty players.
Because of this there is a population period.
Stay mad Zalera
Explain to me the hate for Lalafells. Not the players who use them; we already know most of them are shitters and /v/ gets triggered by them pretty easily.
Just the race itself.
>>342619074
A true hack man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjpags7JT8
>>342622067
I can't play healer. SCH was too boring and easy and dealing with retards as WHM is infuriating even if I can save them. WAR was the most fun I've ever had tanking in an MMO and PLD feels solid even if it's nothing special.
>>342622296
Literally the jews of eorzea
>>342622067
Swap those with WAR and SCH and you would have been right. WHM is only viable if you know how to use Cleric Stance in the right scenarios and PLD is only good when ??????
>>342621683
It's a DF option, so I doubt you can.
