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Do we all agree that Overwatch is just a shallow cashgrab with little substance or effort put into it by blizz? Nevermind the fact that this shit is overpriced and can find games with more effort put into it and has more content for 20 bux or free

The shitty dialogue, textures, characters are all boring and simple, the designs are that of a middle school kid on deviant art
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>>342589923
>Nevermind the fact that this shit is overpriced and can find games with more effort put into it and has more content for 20 bux or free


Name a few I want to play them.
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>subjective opinions the thread
If you think it's a shallow cashgrab with little substance or effort, then come up with actual reasons for why that could be the case.
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>>342589923
Don't you think it's a bit arrogant to say that blizzard didn't put any effort into it?
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You sound like you can't afford to spend $40 on a video game. Hilarious.
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It sounds like it's one of the worst, least-effort games released in the last year

Name 3 class-based team shooters released in the last year that are better
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i like it but i needs more content.
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>>342590140
People demanding "content" is the fucking cancer.

Quality > quantity always, as CS has shown you don't need a ton of crazy maps just a few well designed ones.
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>>342589923
>salty poorfag who can't afford it trying to convince himself that the game is shit
No, anon, the game is really fun and you're missing out.
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>>342590360
Overwatch is not CS.
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>>342589923
>The shitty dialogue, textures, characters are all boring and simple, the designs are that of a middle school kid on deviant art


FUCKING THIS
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>>342590458
You're right, Overwatch has even more variety within a single match because it has almost 2 dozen heroes instead of everyone using the same half dozen guns in every match like in CS.
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>>342589990
TF2, Undertale and Worms Armageddon are just a few examples
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>>342589923
t. poorfag
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>>342590762
Are you memeing me?
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>all these blizzcucks here
Fucking disgusting. Where did you faggots came from?
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>>342589923
>HUE HUE HUE make game free pls I no moneis: the post

So glad blizzard filtered out 3rd tier world.
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>>342590867
>judging a game based on who made it instead of its own merits
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>haven't played with one Brazilian yet
feels good
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>>342590867
>Oh shit, I have no arguments, better call them shills.
t.Faggot
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>>342590360
Too bad there arent any in overwatch
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>>342590762
nice try, but a sane person wouldn't play any of those shit games on 2016
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>>342589923
>cashgrab
>w-why isn't it free to play like TF2?
>W-WWWAAAAAAAAAH
Eat shit, poorfag
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>>342591060
Fucking Brazilians, ruining my FlyFF.
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>>342590867
>shit on most popular multiplayer game in recent history
>wonder why people disagree

wew laddie
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>>342591219
Tf2 is objectively better and more balances shooter than ow
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>>342589923
did you even play it?
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>>342591303
lol
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I don't understand the mindset of people like the OP. Games fun. Games cheap. Since its Blizzard we know that it will have support for the next 7 years.

I wish /v/ showed flags so I could filter out the 3rd worlders
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a games staying power is directly correlated with how many people hate it and how many people make memes about it

overwatch might just live forever
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>>342591303
Whoa. The game that's been out for 10 years is more balanced than the game that hasn't been out for 10 months.... Insane.
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>>342591407
>every class is balanced and can be countered
>no taking damage behind cover
>"press Q to win"
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>>342591546
lmao
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>>342589923
>I wish /v/ showed flags so I could filter out the 3rd worlders

this, coming to this game from world of tanks i can say p2p is the best thing about this game

children/third worlders/autistic NEETs get fucked
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>>342591573
Nice argument faggot
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>>342591546
>same as in Overwatch
>competitive mode will have a higher tickrate
>"press Uber to win"
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Overwatch suffers from same things most of the other team bases fps games do, you get bad teamates. "oh buy m9, they'll add comp feature soon". Yeah but how is it any different from comp mode on CSGO? Or mobas like LoL? Have people of OW really not played any other game with comp mode before? It doesn't really help at all, the people you'll be playing with will still be asstwats, they wont care if they're playing stubidly and not doing their job of their role. They'll get 2/11 ratio with their hanzo or widormaker and ask someone else to switch (namely you), even if you were doing 3-4 silvers or golds. Why should a person doing their job correctly switch?

And here in lies the problem. When the game starts there will prolly be limitations on how many people can play which role, for else the game will be just as cancerous as the quick play mode already is (for anyone that's single queueig, it's better with 1-2 friends). So how will there be decision who gets to play which role? Because other mobas haven't come to solution for this, it's usually that someone ends up playing certain class. It's good if they know how to play it, but there will be more than couple of times when someone who's not good with tank or support "ends up" playing one.

So what does this mean? It means that the game is only good if you play it in a group, most preferably with group of 6 premade, but a premade of 2-3 is OK too. But that means you would need friends to dedicate their time to play this game with you. It's good game for those who have friends willing to dedicate time to play it with you, and even better if they don't happen to suck balls, but we're already tiptoeing on a thin layer of ice, and I don't like that.

For these reasons, I would call OW bad game. It certainly is better than Battleborn, but it's still nothing to be proud of, especially not with the 20 tickrate.
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>>342590762
TF2 is trash man, nothing is stable.

Tell me the game runs as smooth as CS:GO and ill laugh in your face with feces
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>>342591224
I'm not him. However.
>Buy orange box
>Love the shit out of tf2
>Continue loving it
>It goes f2p
>Still loving it
>Apparently I have to stop playing it now and pay for a new game because the game I paid for and enjoy no longer costs other people money
Explain.
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>>342591640
Ranked play in LoL does not have the issues you're complaining about outside of Bronze league.
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>>342591640
>When the game starts there will prolly be limitations on how many people can play which role
do you have any idea on what you are talking about
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>>342591640
The solution to shitty teammates, at least partially, is stomping your way up to higher rankings wqith all the other tryhards
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>>342589923
>Do we all agree that
No "we" don't.
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>>342591754
>Explain
I will, after you explain what the fuck it is that you're on about.
Who said you have to stop playing TF2?
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>>342591634
>competitive mode will have a higher tickrate

Nope. Developer said they cant fix 20 tick.
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>>342591582
My buddy asked me today on the group voice chat, that is it Summer break for kids. I said yes, I have heard kids who are on the mic, sperging out. There was a shitty hanzo that sounded like a 13 year old that kept singing into the mic.
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>>342589923
Okay, lets just ignore the fact that Overwatch is one of the biggest successes in video games of all time. Surely so many people would spend 40$ on a shit game and continue playing it for so long, right?
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>>342589923
The game is shit and we all know that but you will find a lot of people trying to troll you, OP.
It's just Undertale 2.0, give it 2 more months and people will forget.
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>>342591303
Tf2 is objectively a shit game and has an awful community. I'd rather play with blizzard drones then ftp scum.
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>>342591871
the devs have explicitly stated that they can change 20 tick
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>>342590629
>"I tell you man, the textures are horrible, the characters are made from an elementary schooler cliches."
"I tell you, TF2 is better"
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>>342591796
Yes I have. There will be limit for max 3 offense, I can tell this already, or else shit will be so fucking butthurt broken for the teams. It means some people get "lucky" being first pick and deciding "whoaaa im gonig dps :DDDD" , whilst other have to choose what team needs.
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>>342591853
Explain how I'm too poor for something when I bought the game I'm playing now for more than what Overwatch is now.
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>>342591887
There are people that still pay WoW monthly after Cataclysm and buy every new expansion so if your question was "do you think that people are that retarded?" the answer is yes.
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>>342591871
No, they said that if they increase the tickrate then 20% of the playerbase would have unbearable lag because their shitty connections can't handle it.
They want to let them have Quickplay because without it they have nothing.
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>>342589923
i fucking love pharah air battles and landing direct hits on poor ground targets.
this game tickles that specific itch of having a great rocketlauncher.
1v1 pharah vs pharah gets my adrenaline pumping, that alone is fun enough for me.
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>>342591948
>max 3 offense
competitive is ALREADY out

there is no such limitation and literally no one is calling for them
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>>342591919
You never played TF2 during its prime did you?
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yeah its a pretty shit game

but my friends are playing it so I guess I am too
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>>342591546
>tf2
>no taking damage behind cover
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>Do we all agree to my edgy contrarian opinion?

No.
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Game needs more maps, pronto. Nepal and Egypt are asscancer.
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>Take TF2
>Change the characters for waifus
>Add weeb style
>Add LoL like skills
>Dumb the game down so it's easy to play and there's no real challenge
>Collect money
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Welp, I don't remember playing online fps game with 20 tick rate before. And no, I didn't play any of the new BF games recently.
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>>342592005
doesn't make his statement false.
TF2 has gone to shit and you know it, and there is no going back.
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>>342592098
Quake?
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>>342591952
Your grandma gave you 100 bucks for your birthday when the Orange Box released but now she's dead and your autismbux can't cover new games.
If that's not the case then I don't see how you could possibly consider "overpriced" to be a valid argument.
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>>342592005
Unfortunately, its not in his prime anymore, and has not for a long time
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>>342592132
I'm pretty sure quake 3 / cpma had better tickrates than this shit
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>>342592132
Quake has more than 20 tick can you stop that meme you fucking kid?
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>>342592069
>easy to play
I don't get why anyone ever says this stuff for multiplayer games

like most people here wouldn't be able to beat a good player much less a good team
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why are valvedrones so hateful?

tf2 was dead before OW was released
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>>342592182
no it didn't
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>>342592186
Every team based game is easy to play, and class based shooters are the paragon of this statement.

You will never find a coordinated team and most "good players" of games like this reached their rank by pure matchmaking.
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>>342592140
As I said I'm not him. But orange box came with half life, half life episode 1 and 2, tf2, and portal.

Depending on how you split it, less than 20 per game. And I've got a certain rule about computer games.
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>>342591887
>Popularity = quality
What a cuck.
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>>342591640
The reason for that is that certain roles aren't fun to play. When I play a pvp game I want to improve my skill but having a Mercy for example is almost mandatory. She offers no challenge whatsoever though and you do not require any mechanical skills and a bare minimum of situational awareness.

Yet developers put these kind of characters in their games all the time and make them so OP that someone has to basically sacrifice his own fun to give his team a chance to win.
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>>342592186
i don't understand this statement either.
comming from TF2 soldier i think pharah is a lot harder to play due to the lower healthpool and lower splashdamage.
it's also harder because in Overwatch headshots actually matter for most classes.
people saying overwatch is dumbed down TF2 have either never played one of the games or are just shitposting.
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>>342592189
I haven't played TF2 in a long time, I never cared for portal or the zombie games either. But I just think what OW is doing is very generic at best.

They didn't even bother to have option for players to buy their skins, like choose what to buy. Instead, what we have in the game is gambling. I thought gambling was illegal in the states? It's addiction, video games shouldn't have such mechanic or system in it. Where's Jack Thompson when we unironically need him?
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>>342590762
>Undertale
Good bait.
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>Splatoon
>60 dollars for almost no content
>Barely any maps and they're on a timer
>Barebones singleplayer
>Ten million threads a second and multiple stickies for a test

>Overwatch
>20 bux cheaper
>More content
>Shitpost central

Epic.
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>>342591767
This, same shit will happen in OW. at a certain level you just leave the faggots behind, hell it already happened to me in quick play.

I say it times and times again though, I think the European servers just have less people on it that should rather be doing their homework
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>>342592379
Uncrating in tf2 is much the same if memory serves.
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>>342590762
0/10 bait, kill yourself
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>>342592189
You realize that most of it is instigated by ow fans first?
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>>342592524
not really.
it mostly seems to be TF2 players unhappy that they have to pay for the spiritual successor or that Overwatch isn't quite what they wanted.
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>>342592448
>one made by nintendo
>the other made by activison nu-blizzard
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>>342592294
>You will never find a coordinated team
but I have a coordinated team consisting of my friends

and like I said, if you were to face a good player and their good team through a custom game, most people here would get utterly smashed
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>>342590360
The problem is you have zero well designed maps in OW. Nothing in this game is Dust tier
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>>342592524
OW fans are actually pretty cancerous. While I was trying to enjoy and have little fun I could from Battleborn, they kept bombarding the steam forums their forced opinion, distracting with my game.

There wouldn't be overwatch without hype train. It's disgusting
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>>342592448
>1-2 years after release
>each game will have enough content to justify the initial price
who cares.
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>>342592639
I didn't know video games were investments now. Thanks anon.
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>>342592582
>solo players would get smashed by full stacks
wow really. If this game had any skill ceiling a solo player could rek your team but this game is low skilled trash.
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>>342592579
TF2 players? you mean the f2p players right? But there were ton of people who got orange box / tf2 from that, why would you label every tf2 player as "f2p player" when there're so many who had to pay something for it?
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>>342592448
nintendbabies will defend this
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>>342592679
you pay for future content up front.
every game is early access basically.
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>>342592579
You literally called tf2 dead in the same post, when the average number of players for tf2 increased from 50k to roughly 60k since Overwatch released.

>Spiritual successor
>Not what they wanted
Kinda mutually exclusive ya?

>Upset they have to pay
I bought tf2 familypai.
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>>342592687
Yes, this actually holds certain truth. While it's true that it helped a lot even on a casualised Tribes Ascend to have good team, a single pro player could still fucking destroy your team (on CTF especially) if there was a good skill gap. This OW babbys game has none of that.
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I thought most of /v/ hated f2p games and thought that one time purchase games were GOAT since they kept out all the f2p shitters. What the fuck happened. Overwatch isnt even a full price game.
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>>342592582
The same as LoL, just the same.
No matter how good you are, it's just another team game where you are the 30% of a team and you can't do shit if your team is full of retards.
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>>342590762
>Undertale
Oh man that like 7 hour mediocre experience!
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>>342592813
>key sites ask for 40
>blizzard asks for 60
>not full price game

Sure is strong fanboi here.
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>>342592376
I thought the rockets can't headshot, like junk grenades
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>/v/ hates Lol, Smite and Dota
>somehow loves sucking OW's dick

Explain.
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>>342592856
>blizzard asks for 60
Only if you're a peasant.
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>>342589923
Name a better multiplayer game.

Go.
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>>342592876
Cause OW isn't a MOBA
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>>342592885
It's the price of a full priced game, thus you have no argument for its defense. You're just making shit up.
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>>342592696
it's not about TF2 going F2P, it's about the industry changing to a F2P model and people expected Overwatch to be free too.
and on top of that valve multiplayer games like CS and TF2 and DOD: Source were 20 bucks so even considering that 40 $ is too much for some people.
>>342592779
>I bought tf2 familypai.
well you're also not shitposting on Overwatch so....
also i'm not the guy calling TF2 dead.
>>342592856
more like key sites ask for 50 and Blizzard asks for 40, get it right.
>>342592875
you're right they can't but most other weapons can, while in TF2 the only one who has to headshot is the sniper.
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>>342592813
Overwatch also isn't a full game and has one of the lowest skill ceilings in a multiplayer game
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>>342592069
TF2 is easier to play than overwatch, keep crying faggot.
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>>342592856
Yeah for a premium edition with extra skins and shit for OW and their other games. Are you really this retarded?
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>>342592904
>2016
>playing multiplayer games

Online gaming is killing the fucking industry since the dawn of MOBAs.
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>>342592876
Where does this new meme of calling everything a moba come from? OW has nothing to do with those games.
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>>342592856
>playing fps games on a console
Fuck Neo/v/ holy shit
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>>342592876
i think /v/ is mostly consolefags
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>>342592813
I bought tf2 and I love tf2. But I still wonder why Overwatch thinks tf2 can't or won't exist when they do. As if the two games are mutually exclusive.
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>>342592630
>playing an fps game on a console
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>>342592926
>>342592965

>Multiplayer class based game with several arenas
>Objective control
>Not a MOBA

LOL DUDE U HAVE GUNS IT'S A SHOOTER
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Why do Valvecuck tears taste so good?
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>>342592927
It costs 40 bucks on PC. Full price for AAA games is more than that these days.
Peasant prices are irrelevant because only retards play shooters on console.
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>>342592904
Evolve.
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>>342592947
What doesnt make it a full game, and how does it have a low skill ceiling.
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>>342592876
Massive shilling + Blizzard + Hot girls + Summer /v/.
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>>342593034
There's no lanes, there's no minions. There's no towers.
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>>342592931
>more like key sites ask for 50 and Blizzard asks for 40, get it right.

Please at least try to get your shit right
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>>342593035
Nigger I hate valve with all my might but I hate Blizzard even more for releasing a formula that sells and casualizing it then charging you 50 bucks for it.

What was their last original game and not a fotm genre?
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>>342592973
well they are similar games.
if you have both you obviously play the newer one.
you wouldn't play last years COD if you had the new one.
you wouldn't play CS Source if you have CSGO.
same for other multiplayer franchises.
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>>342593034
Please stop, its a first person shooter. You literally described TF2
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>>342593120
>Origins Edition
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>>342592947
>my bronze level adventures.jpg

Would you call yourself a master boxer if you went to the playground and beat up some toddlers?
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>>342593119
And still it is a class based game that takes place in a closed area where the objective is either to have more kills or objectives than the enemy team.
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>>342593120
>Origins Edition

I don't know what that other guy was on about but you are retarded too.
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>>342592904
nearly every fighting game ever created
Q3A, all the Rainbow Six games, ARMA games, Red Orchestra games, W: Enemy Territory, etc.
Any major console shooter if you are comparing console Overwatch
nearly every RTS ever created
Burnout series, GT series, Forza series, F-zero series, nearly every Mario Kart, etc
Tetris, Bubble Bobble, Puzzle Fighter, etc.
Windjammers, Baseball stars series, NBA Street, memegames
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>>342593123
blizzard makes original games?
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>>342592931
I don't think the price is a criticism or even an arguing point. I rarely see it argued except in defense of overwatch, or the one time someone called it overpriced. That not withstanding, I don't see cost being an issue worth arguing as it doesn't prove anything because it's presumptuous of intent of pretty much anyone who criticizes the game. And in fairness, I have reservations about overwatch.
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>>342593120
am i getting baited?
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>>342591887
Are you faggots that deluded?
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>>342593201
>TF2 has skills

LMAO
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>>342593208
So Rising Storm is a MOBA?
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>>342592971
Where do you see a console in this pic? >>342593120
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>>342593034
so battlefield is a moba now?
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>>342592876
>Lol, Smite, and Dota are all MOBAS they all feature a single main Map, creeps / minions, level progression, items and stats.

>OW is an objective based fps it features fps combat that requires aim, mid match class switching and none of the points above.

The difference is pretty easy to spot unless you are an underaged cuck that believes "MOBAS" invented abilities and team compositions.
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>>342592947
>1:38 match time
>10 eliminations
>10 player kill-streak
>410 healing = no Lucio/Mercy

How is that an indicator of anything? You were simply the strongest offense in a team with no healer that curb-stomped the enemy. It only shows a problem with matchmaking, or you weren't ranked yet.
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So many people defending this game it's ridiculous. I wonder if this is what it feels like to be on reddit
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>>342593259
You didnt say shit about skills. Also there is no fucking difference between putting an action on a button like making a turret or having it as a different weapon you have to equip to use. Its the same fucking thing.
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>>342593034
>genre acronyms are literal
Spot the fucking moron
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>>342593324
>smite, lol and dota don't require aiming

Confirmed for never playing any of the above.
Also I have probably been playing since you were wetting your diapers so you can kindly suck my dick.
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>>342593374
So you have to be contrarian and shit in any successful game here?
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>>342593374
Were you expecting a hate circlejerk?
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>>342593254
Others have already pointed out thats the origins edition. Please stop pretending to be retarded. Overwatch is $40 unless you are playing it on consoles for some fucking reason.
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>>342593439
I guess starcraft requires aim as well.

And even smite doesn't have vertical aim.

I'm now going to use my sick aim to press that Post button.
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>>342593465
>>342593493
People who post here most hate mobas and csgo with passion, when this game is not bringing anything new to the table, it's surfing with the same fucking waves. Battleborn at least had some base building elements in it, and you have to assault the enemy base to win the game. This game has nothing of the sort.
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>>342593204
I played against a tryhard redditor team. I don't even know who is supposed to be good when I watch pro tournaments and see a Widowmaker miss most of her shots.

>>342593081
It lacks a lot of gamemodes and map diversity. Everything is extremely samey. Either expand your MP content or create some kind of SP campaign like other multiplayer focused casual shooters do (CoD, BF, Halo). It has a low skill ceiling because each character is very basic and straightforward, the hitboxes are retardedly huge, everyone is slow and easy to hit, and the maps are extremely linear. There is no room for cleverness, creativity, or execution beyond a very low threshold.
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>>342593374
But anon this place is Reddit.
Some boards are free from these people but /v/ is full reddit and neogaf nowadays.
You can't hate anything slightly weeb styled and/or an indie game.
I suggest you to stop thinking that this is the 4chan of 2007 anon.
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>>342593125
You're presumption can be proven false in my own experience with several games. Including doom, quake, doom 2, age of empires 3 and age of mythology. I play all of them. Still. Some are older installments of others. Similar is not the same. Likewise, overwatch is not a newer tf2. Additionally, if it was still available, I would be playing bf2142 right now. Not bf2. Not bf 3. Not bf4. Getting the newest installment of cod does not relegate a slightly older battlefield irrelevant.

Doom is similar to doom 2 is similar to Quake. Aom is similar to aoe3. I can go on and on here but by now hopefully you see what I'm getting at.
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>>342593325
we had a Lucio and it was a premade vs premade
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>>342592962
Okay

I would love to hear this explanation
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>>342593439
Have you ever heard any ASSFOGOTS player talk about his aim?

There are literally champions in these games that do not have a single skill shot.
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>>342593605
You mean the 4chan when every second thread was TF2 and you got shit on aswell if you dared to say anything negative?
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>>342593374
Overwatchfags type like redditors and tumblrinas.
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>>342593376
Do the abilities in overwatch not have cool down?
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>>342591546
>"press q to win"
Now i know your just memeing and have no clue what your talking about
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>>342593764
>Every popular game is a redditor game and if you do not agree you don't fit into the /v/ circle jerk
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guys, it's called a shooting beat em up because it's not exactly same to the previous game of the genre
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>>342593764
You almost got me to talk about my friend's tumblr.
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>>342593847
http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/993027-overwatch-popular-official-subreddit-views-reddits-front-page#/slide/1
literally the majority of reddit is Overcancer
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>>342593584
>There is no room for cleverness, creativity, or execution

You need to stop basing what you think of the game on what you expect it to be. Watch some gameplay footage if you aren't playing yourself.
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>>342592953
I enjoy Overwatch more than TF2 but it's obvious that TF2 takes more skill. I can't really think of a class that's hard to play in Overwatch and the overpowered ultis make it even worse.

I'd say TF2 was just as good, if not better, when it came out/at its best times. It's actually funny that people compare Overwtach with a 2007 shooter lmao
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>"Waaah games nowadays are nothing original I want something new waaah!"
>Blizzard releases TF2 with waifus and weeb style edition
>"WOOO THIS GAME MAN WOOOW I LOVE IT OOOH THANK YOU BLIZZARD HAVE MY 60 BUCKS"

So, people are just retarded or they don't know what they want?
Because even if 4chan is not one person I swear people change their opinions more than their underwear.
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>>342593928
I've played and checked out "pro" gameplay footage from official tournaments. It's all the same shallow shit.
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>>342592947
None of those stats are impressive, your team was just full of fucking idiots.

I pull higher damage than that on Mercy in a similar amount of time.
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Notice how Overwatch thread are never deleted?
Hmm I wonder why...
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>>342593920
>http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/993027-overwatch-popular-official-subreddit-views-reddits-front-page#/slide/1
>May 26th, 2016

Do you remember how /v/ looked that day?
Or at any other time Blizzard released a game?
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>>342594028
>I pull higher damage as Mercy in a similar amount of time

I'm sure you do when they were with a teamkill. Why don't you drop some proof shitter.
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>>342594026
Then you realize there is infinitely more potential for clever plays than your average FPS due to how many skills there are and how they interact.
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>>342591889
Just like how everyone said it would be dead after a month?
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Actually this reminds me of something. Could it be that Blizzard is not taking any more chances with their games? They want everyone to like them? Because if you remember what they did with Hearthstone, they basically removed all the possible skill they could from that game, and made is RNG as possible.

While it's true that aiming with soldier and widowmaker certainly takes skill, you can't deny that all these ults, skills and shit make the game just so much less of a first person shooter game. It's basically a hero shooter? It's not first person shooter, it's hero shooter, because the elements which require skill are minimal.

How does it feel to defend a game aimed for widest audience possible? The ultimate cuck achievement should be unlocked by now.
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>>342593947
I remain unconvinced that the two are exclusive. The numbers seem to reflect this. The people who want to play overwatch don't play tf2 it seems, based solely on numbers. I admit though as a dyed in the wool tf2 lover I'm curious. But I said it earlier; there's some reservations about the game.
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>>342594095
I remember plenty of waifufagging shills
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>>342591871
Custom games support 60 tick so yes they can
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>>342594090
Because they're vidya?
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What /v/ lacks is consistency. People fucking hate how Todd releases his bad games and how he's basically stealing money at this point. Yet when Fallout 4 came out, I don't remember reading anything but praises over here? Like seriously wtf is wrong with you people?
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>mfw salty poorfag BRs and RUSes bashing OW

It's fun, too bad you're missing out
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>>342594153
Yeah, basically this.
We are not the target audience anymore, they want kids that play with their friends when they finish school.
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>>342594178
But nobody plays custom games
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>>342591948
>Source: My ass
Your just making shit up people have played competitive on the public test server and this does not exist.
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>>342594178
I have a 100% legitimate non bait question for you to ask about the game. May I?
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>>342594127
many of these "skills" are just basic toolsets other FPS games already have.
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>>342594153
Please name the ultimates that don't take skill to utilize.
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>>342594018
40 bucks*
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>>342594348
Depends on the platform.
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>>342594343
Junkrat ult?
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Everyone not playing this game is playing CS GO or TF2

Bitter bumblasted tardos
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>>342594389
>smugreactionface.jpg
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>>342594153
>t's not first person shooter, it's hero shooter, because the elements which require skill are minimal.
Nah
Once you get over the initial rush of 'omg ults are so OP game requires no skill' you'll figure out that about every hero requires either aim, or good application of his skills, or a combination of both, and that positioning and teamplay and considering what both teams are capable of is a pretty big part
Junkrat requires you to git gud with both grenades and his mine for movement or cc
Pharah requires you to consider at all tiems where the enemy widow is, you gotta get gud at rockets, and concussion blast allows for neat plays
Torb seems easy at first glace- just plop down turret, hamemr it and be happy, but his gun is actually really strong and getting gut at aiming with it takes a while
Tracer requires utmost concentration to always keep the position of every single enemy in mind, as well as recalling where you were 3 seconds ago and memorizing all the medpacks for sustained harrassment
And so on
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>>342594348
Oh boy, but it's still like 20 too much for online only game.
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>>342594390
finding a safe spot + juking with tire + map knowledge + timing
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I don't like it because I actually played FPS before.
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>>342594390
It has very low health which means good players will destroy it before it gets close unless you use clever paths to get to them.
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>>342590447
This... this guy gets it
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>>342594430
I tried this game, I probably already have 30 hours (which someone will now tell me is not much), but it's enough to tell that I won't like this game, because I get bad teams if I play alone, and because this game really requires so minimal amount of skill.

You know what's bad? Tribes Ascend, a game that was ruined by one of the greediest companies, that game had more fun than this. A f2p cash grab game. More fun. Let that sink.
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>>342594343
Widowmaker ult and every other ult takes as much skill as breathing air.
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>>342591416
>a games staying power is directly correlated with how many people hate it
So Battleborn will be played by our children's children?
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>>342592474
And you HAVE to buy keys to open them. You just open the fucking thing in overwatch.
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>>342594531
>he doesn't know how hard it is to be Sheldon J. Plankton
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>>342594508
The only way to avoid bad teammates is to increase your own MMR which should be easy if you're so good.
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>>342594446
>>342594479
How do I know that you haven't played a better fps game before?
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>>342593920
The game is an immense success and if you still think the casuals here have refined taste or something, that this is a place where you can hide from the popular games, you clearely haven't been here long enough. TF2 ran rampart here for years, SC2 dominated the board for almost a year, we got /vg/ because of fucking LoL.

Complaining about hugboxes while wanting one for their own opinions, classic /v/, why don't you make a tumblr about it?
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>>342594508
>because I get bad teams if I play alone
>because this game really requires so minimal amount of skill
Does not compute
It's either really easy and you quickly stomp yourself up to a rating where people aren't horrible anymore, or you don't win a lot early and get stuck with retards, that you can still carry hard with a proper hero
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>>342594571
Interesting. So at random Overwatch just gives you shit. For nothing. I mean tf2 does as well but the last hat drop was some time ago.
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>>342594531
standing around in quake also takes 0 skill and gets you just as many kills as a widow ult.
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>>342594531
Widow's ultimate is wasted if you use it at the wrong moment.
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>>342594625
>>342594667
>increase your rating
yeah no, didn't work on LoL, wont bother trying here either.
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>>342592947
You literally ran around and killed a bunch of classes with low-health that were cleary shitters since they lost to an enemy team that couldn't bear a team that had no support.

Your dumbshit rant about the game's skill ceiling is completely meaningless.
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>>342594531
Widowmaker ult won't kill anything when you have shit aim.
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>>342594798
or 20 tickrate
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>>342594653
There is a /v/ tf2 server. It still gets players. I play there from time to time
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>>342589923
I agree to that. Seen those signs during the beta.

Aside from what you have mentioned, one of things that I don't like about Overwatch is that it doesn't have a proper way to join a map and game mode that you want. Shit's all random (I know you can make a custom server about that and shit but there's literally no way to give us an option to choose what map and gamemode you want to join outside from that).

Another thing on why I dislike about the game is that there's only 6 people per team. I don't know about you but when I play online multiplayer fps games like Quake and TF2, I prefer to have an option to control the number of players per team. I was disappointed that Overwatch only supports 6 people per team as far as I know. I presume Blizzard did this on purpose but I don't like that move at all.

Gameplay wise, it doesn't quite give me the freedom to choose the character I want. Every match feels like who can counter the enemy team more. It doesn't really give me the option to make me pick a character I want in the long run. That kind of scenario may be understandable outside of FPS games. The fact that there's only 6 people per team doesn't help. Gameplay also feels meh, loose, and floaty for me. Maybe because the gun sound effects sucks, the whole ability thing doesn't quite float with me or something.

If there's one thing that makes me laugh and gives me a tiny mood of "what the fuck", it's people claiming that the upcoming ranked mode will improve and help the game or something. Like seriously, what the fuck is that statement. How can a rank system change everything. If anything, it's just normals with numbers to increase your ego. If I play a game like LoL, I don't play that game just because of rank, I play that game because it has contents that I want and like.

Overall, Overwatch isn't bad but it's not good either. It feels meh.
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>>342594740
Damn it must be some kind of curse that affects only you. I wonder what the cause could be
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>>342594787
had support and you're a shitter
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>>342594863
You have to be real new to have never heard of "elo hell" from LoL. You basically don't climb from there without help of a friend (when you could duo que or whatever it was called, I saw it on stream years ago).
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>>342589923
>hi, I'm blizzard shill #11394
>here's something inflammatory about overwatch
>overwatch thread I guess :^)

Hope you're getting paid or it's a job we don't even really need you to do gaylords.
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>>342594798
Widowmaker ult helps the entire team and shit aim in this game is almost a non-issue. Only MOBA retards have trouble aiming in this game.
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>>342594928
>You have to be real new to have never heard of "elo hell" from LoL.
Oh my god it's still the excact same shitter excuse people have used 7 fucking years ago in HoN
And even back then people have easily disproven iut by solo stomping their way up in high ranking
You just suck, sorry to break it to you
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I hope this game eventually dies, as blizzard doesn't have plan B anymore. They used this, because they couldn't bother to make Titan. With all the drama of WoW priva server closure and how WoW subs are tanking, I think blizzard will move to making movies and quit making video games. That would actually be better for us all, even for those who have little bit of brain tumor.
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>>342594854
Competitive mode will be better because people will take it more seriously and those who don't will play regular quick match. It will also have increased tick rate which is huge.
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>>342594907
Garbage support then, and the enemy team still lost.

No matter how you spin this shit, you killed a bunch of low MMR scrubs and you're trying to be a real big fucking deal.
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>>342594827
Despite all the memeing 20 tickrate doesn't actually make aiming easier.

If running through a doorway takes 60 frames Widow has 60 frames for the shot if the tickrate is 20 or 120. The Window will just start a bit later which will make it look like the target got hit when he was already behind on his client.

It does give you less option for counterplay against a decent sniper since when the first hit gets registered on your Client he has almost already shot the second shot.

It does not help with shit aim though.
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I have a really totally legitimate question about the game I'd like to know. Does this game support custom maps? Dedicated servers?
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>>342595023
This. You're just shitty, so you're paired with shitty team mates.
Yea, they suck ass, but so do you.
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>>342595023
Maybe I don't want to "try hard" too much just to leave from group of players that are significantly worse than me? Like yeah it would be cool to play with players who know how to kill pharah (or at least with those who know when enemy team has one), but I'm not going to make it my life mission.
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>>342594928
Yeah nah, even I and I'm by no means good at the game, managed to score gold every single season.
People complaining about elo hell think they are good but they aren't.

For example sitting on top, stomping your lane oppenent and still loosing the game usually means, you did fuck all to capitalise on your success in terms of actually winning the game.
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>>342595083
Starcraft 2 is the last bastion for RTS players.
don't take it away from us.
>>342595114
haha i highly doubt that.
there's nothing stopping you from just picking torbjorn every round.
>>342595161
no and there are dedicated servers but you can't host a server yourself.
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>>342595132
Sorry m8, but it was against some tryhard redditors.
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>>342593208
So tf2 is a moba?
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>>342595295
Is there a server browser?
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>>342595185
All you have to do is play a self-sustaining high impact hero for a dozen games, like Soldier, Tracer, Reaper, Roadhog, whatever
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>>342595358
no it's matchmaking.
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>>342595295
>Starcraft 2 is the last bastion for RTS players.
How do I know you're a huge faggot? Oh that's right, by not playing AoE 2.
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Again a thread bashing Overwatch without talking about the only thing that matters in an online FPS, gameplay.
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>>342595313

I seriously don't understand how the exp system works in this. I've obtained around 3k+ every time I'm in a group and only get two golds, yet you get four golds and only 2255.
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>>342594178
>60 tick
that's still really fucking low for competitive play
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>>342589923

deixe seu catarrento ficar de mimimi na internete sim, ninguém vai perceber que ele é um mongolão não, pode confiá
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>>342595412
Matchmaking only. No custom maps.
I hate to sound overly critical but 10 years ago that would sound awful and too stripped of features that are essential for a multiplayer shooter.
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>>342595313
Those still aren't impressive numbers.
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>>342595494
but it's a hero shooter, and less of a fps
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>>342595519
because gold means you did most in the group and look at the times. We finish games in 2-4 minutes.
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>>342595494
That is not the only thing that matters. There are meta features that are often essential and neglected and need to be addressed.
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>>342595565
teamkills
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>>342595461
AoE2 pathfinding sucks ass and it's not really that popular, it's pretty fun with friends though.
>>342595542
you have a point, but nowadays you have shit like CSGO wich has all these options yet, 95% of players just play ranked matchmaking, on official servers on official maps.
the options of custom maps and servers are cool but for me personally not necessary.
granted i would love Lucio parkour maps.
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>b-but competitive will fix everything!!

lmfao, i give it a week tops before you see these fucking faggots reporting people for picking an "off meta" character

yeah what a great fix
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>>342589923
I fell for the hype OP
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>>342593579
Battleborn is also an ASSFAGGOT made by one of the most hated developers on this board
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>>342592995
holy shit...
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