So there's a big thing coming. Some have said this will be the biggest tf2 update to date. We know for a fact that it will both enchance competitive play (matchmaking) and casual play (probably they'll get some modes out of beta), as it was stated by b4nny.
What are your expectations, /v/? Are you hyped?
Personally I don't want to get too hyped [/spoiler]but fuck, it is gonna be great. Thank fuck OW came out and forced Valve to show some love to the game [/spoiler]
Got a timeframe?
Fix the fucking heavy.
Why does his minigun take 2 constant seconds of firing to do max damage? That was a retarded nerf and the heavy was already not too viable then.
Now he is useless and I hate it, only the natascha is really useful against others but its a no fun bitch weapon I hate using.
Hopefully we get some optimization too, I wanna be able to play this on my Toaster again.
>>342586575
No, but recently the localization files of the game were updates "for a future update".
This kind of changes only happen before big updates strikes.
>>342586643
Okay cool.
Thanks for the info anon.
I don't have my phone attached to Steam so I won't be able to play it anyway.
>>342586676
Why wouldn't you attach it...? It's ez.
>>342586594
>Complaining about heavy's damage output.
I hope you aren't serious.
>>342586715
Why should I?
>>342586480
Nerf soldier.
I just want new actual content,be it maps,weapons, or a new gamemode. I don't give a fuck about a competitive mode where people pretend that TF" is serious business.
>>342586759
Heavy is a shit class, he's only above Pyro and Spy
>>342586676
You can just use winauth
>>342586791
So you can play comp and trade properly?
You know you don' have to use it everytime you log into steam, right?
>>342586848
I don't own a phone.
>>342586912
Matchmaking isn't comp and who even trades?
>>342586759
>>342586808
He is slow, is big and most classes can easily out damage him. many of his weapons are garbage like the brass knuckles which do so little damage in exchange for faster hitting which I think is useless. Making its active speed bost ability passive would be a start.
>>342586808
But buffing it would make it Op. It has an adequate damage at mid range already.
>>342586480
>comp mode with no class limits
Fucking cancer.
>>342586480
>What are your expectations, /v/?
A shit ton of hat. Maybe two or three weapons/maps. Competitive play changes I don't care about.
I've played a huge chunk of Overwatch for the past month, but it might be nice to see how TF2 is doing.
>>342586956
I think you can set it with your e-mail too.
>>342586594
>>342586805
>>342586808
>>342586972
pub players should not post
>>342586912
Isn't mobile auth needed now because comp is in beta? It probably won't be the same once it's official.
>>342586480
>>342586912
>>342586997
>competetive TF2
>>342587116
yup
mobile auth is needed and won't be going away
>>342587065
Can you explain how heavy can be viable in this day and age?
>>342586480
>tf2
who cares when we have overwatch
>competitive tf2
LMAOing @ u IRL
>>342587140
Why though. It makes no sense. Now it's required because the beta is supposed to be a "limited" thing.
I think >>342587116 is right.
>>342587146
By not being shit and using your fucking brain? It's same story with pyro. I don't play him that much and still can get 64 points in one round on a shitty pub.
>>342587223
You talk like 64 points with pyro in a pub is a lot
>>342587146
It's only usefull defending last, as his lack of speed makes him not viable in any other situation.
And it's ok this way. He is supposed to be slow.
>>342587223
I thought we were talking about comp not pubs. Any class can be played well against an uncoordinated team.
>>342586594
stay mad gibus spy
>>342587169
Why don't you go to the other 500 threads about OW instead of shitposting here?
>This is the target audience of Activision-Blizzard.
>>342587216
you stupid faggot
they've already said it's gonna be required to prevent people from making a hundred dummy accounts to cheat on to piss people off in matchmaking
CS:GO is a paid for game and still has a silly hacker problem; TF2 is free so they're making you use your phone instead
>>342587398
>People would find a way to make dummy accounts anyway
>>342587378
>overwatch mentioned in one post
>thread already starting to implode
it begins
>>342587065
Competitive is joke and is even more unbalanced than pub plays. But Gaben does need to satisfy faggots who want to jerk off on a virtual ranking system.
>>342587378
same reason you shitpost in overwatch threads
>This is the target audience of valve
>>342587464
yeah, stealing phones
>>342587398
>tf2
>ever giving a fuck about cheating
>>342586480
SOURCE 2
>>342587516
>Competitive is joke
I'm inclined to agree after all those pro VAC bans not long ago.
>>342587529
not falling for this
>>342587554
But they destroyed LMAObox not so long ago, anon.
>>342587516
That's because the current "matchmaking" system doesn't even work properly. You get assigned with whoever the fuck is playing, no matter his rank.
>>342587223
>pub players should not post
>brings up stomping pubs with pyro
Pyro does not work at a base level, much like spy
No half-decent player will let you get near them, and you get out-DPSed by every class that isn't the spy
>>342587640
>youve already fallen
>>342587672
But airblast is an interesting mechanic, anon,
>>342587601
Won't happen
>>342587749
Air blast is an interesting mechanic, but a close-ranged class in a game where soldier, demoman and scout exist completely invalidates pyro's existence
Op here, this video sums up pretty much almost everything we know about the update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IMwHcfVIYU
Also, if anyone wants a mm beta past, just ask me. I have 3 to spare taking dust.
>>342587816
But it's a mechanic that technically allows you to negate all projectile damage, which could be used to get at close range.
I mean, the pyro is "theorically" usefull
>>342587949
>Scout stays at a distance, getting decent meatshots with the scattergun or pecking away with the pistol
>soldier shoots at his feet or jumps away
>demoman just spams stickies and either catches them between airblasts or depletes all of pyro's ammo, or jumps away
They're years too late.
I might have given a damn back in 2011.
>>342588070
But people still plays the game, anon.
>>342586480
>>342586805
I think I want new maps.
Most of the populated servers seem to be playing the same maps over and over.
What happened to those orange box maps that were popular back when TF2 was new?
Same thing happens for Counter Strike and Half-Life.... where are the servers running the cool custom maps like "_rats" and "_mice" ??
>>342588140
A large majority of the remaining playerbase are fuckheads, children, or furries. Out of those three groups they all share the same mentality as the faggot who made this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMlsSecuzE8
I'm sure theres some worthwhile players in a couple of servers, but I'm absolutely sure that 97% of them are meme spouting shitters.
>>342586643
How recently? I've been out of the loop for a long while since TF2 hasn't gotten anything from Valve in forever.
more hats hopefully
>>342588436
I think it was yesterday.
For a long time I though hats killed TF2 for me but no, custom weapons did.
Originally when you saw a character you knew exactly what he is capable of and outplaying him was a matter of strategy and skill. Now with so many weapons games became a fucking mess.
>trusting that chucklefuck b4nny to balance classes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5pZgph_ZaU
>>342588593
>custom weapons did.
Play on sv_pure servers or just don't install custom models? Or do you mean community weapons?
>>342588701
I think he means the weapons skins that serve no purpose other than making it harder to see what someone's using.
>>342588514
>yesterday
So we can expect it by maybe the end of this year then?
>>342586480
Something that wont make me come back
>>342586480
>trusting I can't kill a pyro b4nny
It's gonna be shit like the rest.
>>342586480
I'm not expecting anything, volvo ruined tf2.
The only thing that could save tf2 is a massive rollback into the year 2009/2010, right before all the cancerous update.
Also all the talented folks in valve left the boat years after years. The company is dead.
>All this fags not giving the game a chance
wew
>>342589920
I played TF2 for years before I dropped it entirely. They've had chance after chance.
Overwatch is a better comp game than TF2.
>>342588245
quickplay killed custom map servers
>tf2
literal dead game
>>342590423
They're both garbage can competitive games but for different reasons.
>Still getting excited for valve updates
haha
oh wow
>>342590423
Overwatch isn't even a competitive game
>>342586480
If I were to guess...
>New COMMUNITY ITEMS (who the fuck cares)
>New shitty community maps
>No New weapons
>Tiered Cases
>Skins that lag the game
>Game Optimizations that somehow make it run worse
>Mannpower updated, demoknight nerfed for the 40th time in said mode.
>The Comp Matchmaking UI changes slighty
>Despite still being horribly broken, Comp matchmaking is "released"
>Buy2play Contracts made for Matchmaking; Separate from the Buy2play Matchmaking pass
>The Contracts will ultimately make matchmaking suck because people are too busy doing them rather than playing the game.
>Minor balance tweaks that don't address the core issues of the game.
>Updated the localization files
>>342586480
i'm not hyped because they'll fuck it up
like, 100% sure they will fuck something up
i want a rework of pyro and spy
both weapons and playstyle
also fix the heavy's stupid machine guns. give them less spread and more fall off, so that you actually get rewarded for aim but can't snipe people from far away
also get rid of random crits
>>342588771
please don't be this retarded please be joking
>>342588664
>implying he's wrong
>>342588664
He's not really wrong about this, for the comp scene.
Pyro is a terrible off class in 6s, all he's really good for is uber denail. Which is done by pressing m2 a bunch while looking in a general direction.
I foresee more skins, grades and tiered cosmetics. I get less and less excited for updates to this game.
>>342591310
>Pyro s a terrible class
OH BOI, WE BETTER NERF IT'S ONLY USEFULL MECHANIC THEN!
>>342590423
so much better
>>342590423
Dude, just enjoy your shitty weeabobait game. Don't come here to shitpost.
>>342591879
now post the huntsman.webm
>>342591879
Is that specific to Genji's projectiles or are all the hitboxes a fucking mess?
>>342592235
>Tf2 has 2 fucked up projectile weapons
>Half of the OW characters are fucked. Even the hitscan ones.
Wew
>>342592240
Almost all of them are a fucking mess.
>>342592235
Alright
>>342587640
>they destroyed lmaobox
nyet. my injecter still works and none of the accounts i've used it on a couple weeks after the lmaowave got vac'd. its fixed.
>>342592235
>>342592424
S A V A G E
>>342591879
>inb4 some overwatch shill tries to claim that the recording software is "lagging behind"
>>342591879
this is laggy server fag at least try when you shitpost
>>342592691
>laggy server
>stands still for several seconds before the genji attacks
totes lag m8.
>Valvecucks still pretending the hat-wearing zombie game is "alive"
Go play Overwatch.
I'm seriously starting to question OW's players mental stability.
They don' find anything else enjoyable now, only their game. They want more of it. More fanart. More lewd bait. MORE.
Dude, there are other games out there that of course are better than your game, how can you not understand?
Activision-Blizzard's brainwashing procces has end up bein effective. Fml.
Its going to be a ton of hats, a CS GO coin mission, new crate with new hats in it, stock weapon reskins and a map that gets scrapped.
Screencap this
is this a big ruse to secretly release the comic?
who cares about tf2 anymore? it's trash compared to overwatch
>>342593086
Aw fuck, I hope we get the comic soon.
>>342587516
>Gaben
I don't think gaben knows what a tf2 is.
They still do those promotional hats? I mean, I don't give a fuck anymore, ever since they spent a good 2 to 3 years focusing exclusively on the Soldier and Demo, but I'll boot it up if I get a bunch of dumb shit i can peddle to marks.
>>342593229
>>342593086
>Hopefully our next comic won't come out so late guize!
>10 fucking months later
>>342586594
He was garbage before the nerf for anything but defending the last point. Now he just gets gibbed by a Soldier or Demoman after doing pathetic damage. BUFF HIM BACK VALVE FUCKING SHITS
>>342586480
I would like to get excited, but I can't. It's going to be utter shit because valve gave up on tf2 long ago. Valve killed tf2.
Demoman buffs when? His sticky launcher is really underpowered.
I'm just worried tf2center won't be a thing anymore cause of the new matchmaking but I think it's unlikely
>>342586480
I'm still waiting for the fucking comics
>>342595262
Yeah, good luck with that, the guy in charge of the comics said he was going to take a 2/3 years break after the last one
>>342588245
>orange
>good maps
fucking end yourself holy shit
>>342586594
>>342594440
Heavy is still used in comp as a situational pocket for his tanking ability and consistent high damage especially at close range.
Might as well say that Sniper needs a buff because he's only a situational utility in 6v6.
>>342586594
>Autism speaks canada
>>342586480
Hopes:
Optimisation. Make the game run smooth again, maybe add a disable hats or at least unusual particles option, add more LODs, etc.
Expectations
Hats, more hats, new unusual partciles, new crates, new cosmetict, game runs even more shitty due to even more bloat and shit thats rendered at max detail all the fucking time, and some more hats.
>>342596415
Reality
Its community hats a new crate and a csgo coin mission
Do you think the Pyro needs a buff? And I'm not talking about a buff that makes him totally broken like the travesty that was the Phlog.
>>342597181
>Do you think the Pyro needs a buff?
Yes, he's by far the worst class in comp.
>And I'm not talking about a buff that makes him totally broken like the travesty that was the Phlog
Phlog is shit. Pyro is all about airblasting, imo ther should be a dedicated airblast weapon.
>>342597181
All the Pyro buffs in the world couldn't bring me back.
>>342597181
they need to just buff everyone and then lower the spawn timer because im sick of all weapons feeling so shitty and useless
>>342597181
Yes. his core game plan of ambusing people and burning them to death does not work anymore, and other classes do it way better. His damage output can't compete with the core classes so his situational uses only revolve around airblast. as other anon said I'd love for them to expand his capabilities with airblast further. In essence pyro needs to be vastly reworked to have a place in competitive meta
>>342586480
If it doesn't have more than 2 new weapons, or if it has more than 30 hats, I'm uninstalling TF2 forever.
>>342596117
>autistic comp bullshit
>in a game with a dead comp scene
>mattering
That doesn't mean shit when 90% of my team in random pubs are drooling retards. Heavy changes need reverting plain and simple.
>>342598156
You can't balance the game around retards.
>>342597181
No, Degreaser needs a complete rework/gutting and stock flamethrower needs a considerable buff. That's all he needs.
>>342598156
Well I guess we should just get rid of every class except for heavy if you want ot balance the game around pubs.
>>342598156
Even if Heavy got significant buffs he would still be nowhere near as strong as Demo and Soldier.
>>342597987
>In essence pyro needs to be vastly reworked to have a place in competitive meta
Why does he need to have a place in competitive meta?
>>342598156
I'm pretty sure Valve will inject a ton of cash into the comp scene when the update hits. They lost a good chunk of pro players to Overwatch simply because there's money to be made in OW.
>>342598594
Because balancing is always done with meta in mind, otherwise it wouldn't be balance.
>>342586480
Remove random critical hits from the game and issue a written apology.
>>342597181
not a buff. a rework. i love playing pyro but to make him useful outside of spychecking/suicide uber-stalling he needs to be changed completely.
with a straight buff you'd have pub shitters whining all the time.
>>342593951
"spy is my favorite class"
-Gaben
Nerf soldier.
Make a different version of Spy for competitive, he simply isn't fit for a 6v6 format.
>>342600564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tsHkpesBdY
Does OW have any sort of modding or 'dicking around' community with custom gametypes like surf and deathrun? Or is it a walled garden because blizzard?
>not playing team fortress 2 classic
I shiggy diggy
>>342601931
It doesn't have one and never will.
>>342586480
It's VR. That's it.
No, really
>>342597987
>remove backburner and give that small crit window to all pyro weapons to encourage ambushing
>airblast jumping (??? only thing I can think of for more mobility)
>fix the airblast "locking on" to team mates in your crosshair when you reflect something making the projectile fly into your dick/pussy
>fix the goddamn hitbox on the flamethrower, holyshit
let me know when they fix the baby face blaster so it isn't complete shit
is b4nny the same guy who does bug-testing for dota2 (for free)?
>>342604516
just make the flame thrower a friggin hitscan
>>342605652
>Flamethrower
>hitscan
I don't think you know what hitscan means, but if you do, do pray tell what you mean by that
>>342605874
if we are talkin realism range should be in the 30 feet. valve underestimates how far napalm will fly
>>342597181
BUFF THE DETONATOR
I am not so good as 6s, I think I would prefer playing 9s instead. Maybe I feel this way because my first competitive match my team got fucking wrecked.
>>342605874
it means that where you aim it hits, instantly.
the way it works right now is that it shoots particles, more or less in the direction where you're looking, but they're influenced by your movement and are nearly impossible to aim even with minimum lag, as you have to lead your "shots" (the particles) where the enemy will be, compensate for your movement speed AND compensate for the ping.
it's not rare to see the particles go through an enemy without lighting him on fire (especially when a scout tries to circle-strafe you).
there's also the problem that particles are shot not from the nozzle of the flamethrower, but from the pyro's ear (seriously look it up on youtube)
I only care if they fix the performance, I shouldn't be unable to run a game I bought anymore because Valve are incompetent fucks that bloated their game beyond belief. How many gigs does it take up nowadays?
>>342588321
>people are angry that there is people that actually want to play the game and not mess around
Those people should be deported to 2fort forever if they want to mess around.
>>342606468
its makes more sense as a projectile weapon with leading however. Close range combat supremacy should be pyro's forté and having fire projectiles engulfing everything in range makes more sense mechanically
>>342586480
Fix the fucking pyro!
Being a pyro main is so fucking painful, he's outdone in every way by another class. I think he needs to be faster, obviously not as fast as the scout, but make the powerjack speed be the normal speed, maybe.
>>342586480
Dear Valve:
Nerf Soldier and Scout or get the fuck out with your dreams of competitive mode in your dead game.
GET RID OF SV_PURE
>>342588245
>orange maps
>good
die
>>342607483
>Close range combat supremacy should be pyro's forté
And he fails miserably at that the way he is now.
heavy deals much more damage close range than him on top of having more health, scout can outrun him, demo and soldier can shoot at the ground and/or jump away with their superior movement options.
at the very least give him the ability to aim decently so that he has a chance in 1v1 with anything that isn't spy
>>342607727
>maining any class
I don't even fucking care about the game anymore. I just want more comics.
>>342588771
if the soldier is shooting at you, he's not using the rocket jumper.
>>342607929
i actually saw a guy try to kill me with the rocket jumper
it was so cute
>>342606289
dude what
the detonator is better than ever, you can jump pretty damn far with it now
>>342587129
Pretty much
>>342607851
>why be good at one or two classes when you can be okay at all of them?
So when you're the first to join a server, you just sit there until every other slot is filled and then pick your class?
>>342608151
Most people don't think that way anon, if that was true there would be no cases of multiple snipers on attack teams. Those people just want to play their own way despite the fact their team may be completely outmatched because of it.
>>342602590
Dead playerbase. I mean, as much as I love TF2C, it's fucking dead.
>>342606743
try disabling the steam cloud for tf2, and delete+redo your cfg folder i heard some anons preach this and it works
idk if you can turn it back on though
>>342608340
ok but that's not what I define maining as
>>342607843
Maybe the flamethrower should have an exponential damage multiplier based on consecutive hits, like getting puffed is not going to hurt a lot, but up close full exposure will kill any class regardless of health in about the same amount of time. Mobility and afterburn is an issue though, four out of nine classes already out maneuver it and all classes have a way of canceling or mitigating afterburn with exception to demo
>>342608512
I had already tried it, but the issue is with the fucking community hats and weapon, they have no LOD and their policount is bloated
>>342608515
Ok, I don't mind mainers that are actually good at their class. But most mainers don't how to use their class effectively. That is why it is looked down upon at times. The amount of people that main demo and soldier that don't know hot stickjump or rocketjump properly are quite high.
>>342608019
but i want more
>>342609282
>directs on burning targets no longer do 42 dmg, just a flat 30, but hey! you might get 18 dmg if you detonate it at the right time!
>>342592963
It's just like what happened to assfaggots players, only it's slightly less suicide-inducing to watch them play their game. Not a terrible outcome I guess.
>>342586594
I think they should revert the accuracy ramp up nerf but not the damage ramp up nerf
>>342586997
According to Sideshow: No class limits will allow the most cancerous strategies (like stacking engies) to rise to the top so Valve can nerf them. Then they will no longer be cancerous in pubs or comp and 6s leagues can ease up on restrictions. Say what you want about Sideshow but I believe him, that guy puts his heart and soul into TF2
Also Vaccinator works as an anti-stacking device in the form of a weapon, if it was buffed very slightly it would be the perfect deterrent against teams of all one class
You have ten seconds to tell me why a two class limit shouldn't be implemented for competitive.
Protip: you can't. Enjoy your 2Demo 2Soldier 1Scout 1Medic meta.
>we might not even get the update this month
I just want new content you guys
>>342586480
The only way i'd ever consider playing again is if they removed everything back to 2011 Christmas and actually put out quality content
other than that shit game
>>342587601
Valve has said they have no plans to port TF2 to Source 2 at this time, it would considerably increase the system requirements of the game (locking out low and midrange PC owners), would be massively plagued with bugs because the original writers of the code are gone, and would almost certainly lose many mechanics of tf2 such as surfing
As an example of trying to port tf2 to Source 2 without problems, think of a man trying to defuse a bomb based on someone else's personal notes written in shitty handwriting
At this point its honestly more sensible and likely to ask for a TF3 built from scratch than to ask for a port
>>342609460
>using the detonator like a weapon and not a mobility tool
>>342611535
>would be massively plagued with bugs because the original writers of the code are gone, and would almost certainly lose many mechanics of tf2 such as surfing
Such a shame
>>342591310
He spent the entire video merely suggesting nerfs to Pyro though, rather than proposing how the problem of it being an M2 bot could be fixed
When do you guys honestly think we'll get the update?Hard mode: no memes
>>342611827
>99% chance
next week
>1% chance
today
>>342594784
I know this is bait but Demo is the most balanced class in the game now
Useful both offensively and defensively
Low skill floor, high skill ceiling
Counters engie, countered by scout, goes 50/50 with every other class depending on situation (even Pyro as he is weak at close range)
Every class weaker than Demo should be buffed or given unlocks which expand its options, every class stronger than Demo should have its strongest unlocks nerfed, and the game will improve drastically
>>342612002
Has Valve even done anything TF2-related on fridays?
I know that they close up shop during the weekends.
>competitive class based game where not even half the classes is viable
I like tf2 but its obviously not made for 6v6
>>342611535
>and would almost certainly lose many mechanics of tf2 such as surfing
Source? Bear in mind that change of physics engine from havok to their in-house engine is irrelevant to movement mechanics.
>>342608019
It costs like a billion HP though for a jump weaker than soldiers jump, when pyro also has less HP to spare and no gunboats
>>342588245
nigga orange box maps are everywhere where I am and they fucking suck
>>342586480
What about adding more characters?seriously all that bs with hats and cosmetics.It s been 10 years valve mox it up a little ffs.
>>342612016
You know that he is the strongest comp class, right?
That he is literally stronger than any solly, and that it's restricted to ine per team just like the medic.
What are you talking about.
>>342611216
I am literally one step ahead of you anon, see >>342611032
Class limits are a band-aid put in place by competitive players because they didn't have the power to change the game. Valve does have that power
>>342590813
>They're both garbage can competitive games but for different reasons.
Tf2 is more skill based than the majority of fps games with comp scenes. Miles above rng trash like cs and mobafps overwatch.
>>342612435
the weapons are like new characters, like the demoknight and market gardener
>>342612435
what could they even add
>>342612435
>HURRR DURR MUH 10TH CLASS
You haven't played the game for a lot, have you?
>>342612156
I think Gun Mettle was on a Friday
they ended up fixing bugs on Saturday or something,I honestly don't really remember though
>>342612435
Not characters, weapons
>>342612472
I know exactly what I am talking about anon. Since the last Demo sticky explosion radius nerf and the weapon switch speed buff for all classes, the most powerful classes in either competitive league have been Scout for 6s and Sniper for HL respectively.
Demo outputs great damage, but without multiple people to protect him, he's a goner against aggressive Scouts.
I miss TFC
Classic's Medic and Pyro were so fun
>>342612808
>classics medic was fun
>mrw
>>342612808
I would like to see classic medics aids kit and conc grenades come back in a similar form, but I think most people would bitch too much aabout AIDS for Valve to consider it
Wouldn't mind seeing Pyro get a Molotov secondary as well to mimic napalm nades
>>342612762
>stickyspam slightly nerfed
>suddenly Scout becomes the best class on 6v6
...no, the demo still has the greatest damage output of them all. That's why it's still restricted to one per team.
>>342612659
I bought the orangebox when it first came out.play tf2 occasionaly every few years.it s stale
>>342612958
There are not "area" weapons but the solly's banners (and those are just buffs), and I doubt tthere'll ever be.
Post your face when all the Blu Team character models are replaced with the Classic characters
>>342612808
It's not entirely dead, what's stopping you from playing it again?
>>342613238
>>342613238
That would be cool but
1. What about the Medic? There are already items mimicking the TFC Medic's appearance.
2. That would fuck with cosmetics
>>342613238
It would be cool as a halloween special or something
>Expectations
I'll have to buy a 15 dollar bottlecap that lets me do contracts that give me crates that I can buy keys for to get a 1% chance of getting anything cool
>>342614969
JUST
>>342586480
The only thing I'm expecting is more cosmetics
>TF2
>2016
gave me a good chuckle
>>342615405
>>342614969
...but for the first time we have confirmation by Valve saying the update will consist of more than that.
Check this video: >>342587887
>>342592424
btfo
>>342613013
>damage
Demo can put out great damage, but he's poor at self defense now against anyone who can get past his spam.
>suddenly scout becomes the best 6s class
You may choose not to believe it, but it's true. The radius nerf made Scouts able to run right up close to a Demo without the explosion catching them anywhere near as often as it used to, as if the demo drops a sticky in front of himself for self-defence the small unramped explosion will be too small to hit the Scout. Thus, it allows Scouts to properly counter Demomen a lot more often.
Since Engineers are not present in 6s more than 2% of the time (sometimes not at all), Scout gets to run around countering Demo, but has no present counter himself. Thus Scouts are the strongest element in the teams who won Dreamhack and Int.
>that's why it's restricted to one per team
So are pyro, heavy, engineer, sniper, and medic. Classlimit 1 is retained because it's what the wider 6s community enjoys more, not because Demo is actually such a huge threat anymore.
>>342613013
Please acknowledge >>342616152 so I can go to sleep
Anyway if you still don't believe me, check TFTV's "looking for team" groups- Demo mains are a lot rarer now since the nerf. Or ask any gold or plat level player if they think Demo is the strongest 6s class, you'll get a hearty "no".
I'll say it again, it is common knowledge in the comp community that Sniper is the strongest Highlander class, Scout is the strongest 6s class, and Medic dictates the meta for both.
