Is this actually going to be good?
All the recycled environments from SMTIV and the fact that there's only 2 routes has me worried.
I adored SMTIV for its atmosphere; the game was by no means as good as Nocturne, SJ, and damned well not SMT2, but it had a lot of charm and a unique flavor to it.
Apocalypse gives me a very mixed and uncomfortable vibe and I'm afraid it might be spreading itself too thin with all this talk of YHVH, Flynn the Godslayer, and so on.
Sell me, weebos!
It is good.
theres only 2 routes?
>>342544212
Aren't there 3 routes?
>>342544212
Day 1 Buy for me.
>>342544469
Well shit I'm fucking SOLD now
Yes.
As someone who's first SMT game is SMTIV, when does this get good? I just beat Issachar last night, and I legitimately felt nothing when he died. I've wanted to start this series since the announcement of Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, as the latter is my favorite game series of all time. Also, why have people told me to side with Walter when he's obviously a fucking villain? The opening told me that
It is not good.
>>342544828
>>342544849
There are 4 routes but two of them are basically early game overs like the White ending in 4
Also from what I've seen the game looks like it's gonna be pretty great. Someone post the map of the teleport maze clusterfuck that is the final dungeon please
Its SMT 4, but improved
If you don't like 4 then you will not like this
Certain skills have additional effects when the user is under the Smirk status. For example, Light and Dark spells now primarily inflict damage which are effective against boss as well, but their instant death effect only activates during Smirk; "King Bufula", an all-enemy moderate ice attack which is exclusive to King Frost will debuff defense in addition during Smirk.
The negotiation system has been updated, notably the same demon who has abandoned the previous negotiation will take up where the talk has left off, instead of merely starting the negotiation all over again.
Demons using magic they specialize in will deal more damage or cost fewer MP, the resultant enhancements on skills are similar to ranking up skills of the previous protagonist via Whisper event.
Estoma now creates a barrier around Nanashi and has a shortcut to it on the menus.
User interface has been enhanced completely:
Ability to rearrange skill order of the protagonist or each demon.
Added an icon to denote if the enemy demon has been registered in the Demonic Compendium.
Fusion search can be specified to a range of levels. (1~9, 10~19, etc.)
Next destination of the quest is denoted in the map with a red flag icon.
Partner will recommend the player to persuade a demon who has not been registered yet.
Obtaining a relic will prompt its expected selling price.
Ability to zoom in or out in the overhead world.
Demons now hum or roar while attacking or hurt (similar to Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne).
>>342545605
The characters are fucking boring in SMTIV.
You don't play it for character development, because in every single SMT game all of your friends die before you reach the final boss.
If atmosphere and mythology are not your thing then this game is not for you.
>>342545749
>teleport maze
NOPE
>>342545605
>Walter
>villain
Wait until you see blasted tokyo then you will know which one is the villain
I heard they atleast improve on the final dungeon
The purgatorium and Lucifer castle are so shit
>>342546097
>>342546271
Stop spamming this shit retard.
>>342545605
Don't play SMT for the characters.
>>342545605
Game is a slog until you get to Tokyo
>>342546629
Why are you shitposting?
>>342544212
On my blind play af over 32 hours of game time, I found it fun and humorous at times. Crazy part is, I dont even understand nip. Currently on my way to blow YHVH a new one
>>342546271
Okay I give. What's this?
>>342547425
>"BEHOLD, MY DEMONS!"
What did he mean by this?
Why is she alive?
They are essentially doing for SMT IV what Majora's Mask did for OoT.
>>342547547
He just wanted to show you his pokeyman
>>342547612
Neutral
>>342545892
>You don't play it for character development, because in every single SMT game all of your friends die before you reach the final boss.
SJ is worth playing for the characters.
>>342547430
I DEMAND ANSWERS
>>342547430
>Filename
>>342547612
The game apparently takes place right after the final bosses fuse. The canon route for the first game is also the neutral one. She stays with Flynn in that ending.
>>342548064
Mastema is cool and all but who gives a shit about anyone else in that game
>>342545605
>didn't feel anything killing Issachar
I thought it was a pretty impactful boss fight, but too each their own.
Anyways, Tokyo is the main character more or less, but I can't say how strong your interest will be if you're not feeling it already.
>TFW getting tired of playing games in Jap since I've been doing it so much
How are the localizations in the SMT games? I've already played through I and II's PSX versions, but I haven't played any of the others yet. Are they good? Will I be doing myself a disservice by playing them in English?
>>342545892
In SMTIV your friends are the final bosses.
>>342548271
>file name
Anon...I still dont get it. Patch of what from where or ruse
>>342548737
They are good. Atlus lets some memes slip in, but nothing like Treehouse. Also they don't pretend westerners can't comprehend something being inherently japanese.
>Lawfags
>>342548271
Flynn can't get away with getting so many waifus!
>>342549052
he can becauseFlynn is a waifu
>>342548903
That's cool. The Persona localizations seemed pretty good from what I've seen, honorifics aside, so I hoped the SMT localizations would be good as well. Persona is actually one of the reasons I'm a bit burned out on playing in Japanese, they have so much damn dialogue (3 and 4 anyway. 1 and 2 didn't really bother me).
>>342548903
>mfw LotR reference in DeSu2
Tastefully small one too
>>342547003
I was machine translating the game as I played it, it's still good. That Excalibur reference was great.
>>342546271
im guessing nobody will explain to me autistic tier meme of this?
>>342545841
>next destination will be marked with a flag
About time. They shouldve done this with IV to begin with.
>>342550529
I hope you can turn it off. I enjoy getting lost in JRPG overworlds.
>>342550805
I mean yeahh the map music is pretty cool, butbit gets tiring playing catch-me-if-you-can with the monsters spawning in the map and hindering your process of finding way back home.
>>342549105
The best
>>342550220
autistic tier meme?
>>342551447
Never heard of the autist bracket?
Faggot
Shitty
Retarded
Troll
Tryhard
Cancer
Autistic
Turbo autist
And (You)
>>342545749
>Teleport maze
Pls no I still get SJ flashbacks
>>342552168
It's nowhere near as hard as SJ. the hardest dungeon in IV would be the easiest dungeon in III or SJ.
The overworld map is more of a challenge to navigate than IV's dungeons. The difficulty in IV comes from the enemies being able to hit so hard. Eventually you get to a point where that doesn't really matter either.
>>342552940
Ah ok
I was about to roll over and cry. Is world of MAG still the best way to go in IV and IV:F?
>>342552940
>IV
>Dungeons
>>342553493
Dex
>>342553493
MAG or DEX for physical skills. STR doesn't do much.
>>342545841
>Next destination of the quest is denoted in the map with a red flag icon.
Fucking finally. I hated floating around Shibuya millions of time.
>>342545605
>Hoyman
>Villian
Hoy... have you lost your senses?
Shinjuku is best shelter
>>342553968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s07o6gkhmiQ
Release date FUCKING WHEN
>>342552168
Remember the Jack Forma quests?
>>342554387
SEPTEMER YOU HOMO
>>342554604
You didn't have to get so aggressive but thanks.
>>342553851
And then paying the green horse and his cronies several times to cross the river
Gimme a Life Stone.
Go to hee-hell!
>>342554768
Sure bro, I got fucking 20.
>>342554818
I LOVE YOU DEMONIHOO
>>342554818
I'm gonna unscrew your head and hee-ho down your neck!
>>342554761
That's another thing I hated about that. also, hopefully the negotiation system being fixed means I don't have to get lost doing favors for demons.
>>342554720
What are the odds that Ashley Burch voices her
>>342554818
I just arrived there.
Is teleporter guard bro in SMT IV Apocalypse?
>10 hold limit for Beads
>>342554818
GO TO FROZEN
Remember when there were rumors of SMTapocalypse using magnetite like in soul hackers?
And when anons were saying the character dialogues will be like in MGS where it will pop up automatically while you run, walk, shit, etc?
>mfw the entire SMT4 OST
Sounds like i am in some weird place
Its such a waste this is on a handheld. It would be an absolutely glorious console game
>>342554993
Hopefully none
>>342555657
There was a hours long SMT4 OST thread last night
>>342545841
>> Ability to rearrange skill order of the protagonist or each demon.
THANK. GOD.
>>342555657
It was actually the first time I bought a 3DS last year with SMT IV being my first game. I don't know how I put so many hours into it, but the damn music man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQbLCsbci9k&index=45&list=PLuu7gfeeGV4TKifRVuYQCVEIU1lGJoIhG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dClKPzjyHns&list=PLuu7gfeeGV4TKifRVuYQCVEIU1lGJoIhG&index=37
>>342555804
Autist rejoiced!
But really it was making me nuts in IV. I literally just abandon those level 8 skills to just rearrange them
>>342555889
Dat Ikebukuro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY
Mostly better gameplay, worse writing. If you liked IV for the atmosphere you probably won't like Final as much.
>>342556065
I honestly want to visit all the places while playing the music. It would make for a comfy walk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwQuxPHQCeo
>>342556065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN2FZBSg6oE
>>342556358
>>342556175
>worse writing
How the actual fuck?
>>342556604
Final is basically a MLP fanfic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZIXqXKiZ7I
>>342556604
It's basically MLP: The Homestuck Webcomic: The Stephen Universe: The Adventure Time mememememememe game.
>>342556689
I'm even more confused than I was before.
>>342556604
IV wasn't that poorly written to be honest, rushed character development is the major problem it had. Final is fanfic tier shit though.
>>342556747
>best waifu had to die by some hungry bitch
>>342554993
You can (barely) hear her in the new video that John Harding speaks in. Not sure if it's enough to tell.
Oh shit, is this a music thread now?
Posting my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7M_g_LJn3Q
>>342556747
>>342556604
Think Reddit & Tumblr coming together to write a story, led by Brianna Wu.
>>342556856
At least she actually stayed dead.
>Taking care of some pleb enemies in a quest.
>Suddenly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhhhsvS9CeU
Fucking David.
>>342556905
GOOD GOYIM BRING MORE MACCA NEXT TIME
>>342556905
Man Atlus stuff used to get so much OC during the "Fatlus" days oof /v/
>>342557104
That sucks. My favorite part of IV is how little story there actually was. Like Shit just happened and they didn't try to tell you how to feel. Sort of like SMT 1 where they just sort of tell you your mother is dead matter of fact like.
>>342556792
>>342556828
>>342557104
So, basically.
Persona 4?
>>342557245
It's never happened to me senpai
>>342557357
Well, one of the major endingsis power of friendship shit and a major character who by all means should stay dead lives on anyway.
>>342557454
You fight David in a quest
>>342557245
>blight
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
I actually keep that skill until end game. Its that good
>>342557357
Except worse in literally every single way, yes.
Why the fuck is SMTIV's OST shilled so much in these threads? Has anyone here actually played any of the other games in the series? They have breddy gud music too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfW3Xm45h7U
>>342557829
What hurts is knowing people are probably going to eat it up because >muh feels. I hope this shit doesn't come back in V.
I need you Toki.
>>342557882
SMTIV is a cut above the rest in a series with consistently good music. It's just that good.
>>342557882
Because this is a thread about SMT IV and Final. It's also the best Megaten OST, even if a lot of the games have good music.
>>342557926
It's the future. The SJWs wouldn't take away our video games, they said.
>>342557357
Oh, calm down, yeah, one ending is persona 4 tier, but to compesate, the other ending is the most edgy shit in SMT ever.
>>342557882
Maybe because this is a IV/Final thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJA1NcU5cXM&index=38&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
>>342544212
>All the recycled environments from SMTIV and the fact that there's only 2 routes has me worried.
Environments were never much to write home about. Surprised SMTIV's recycled sprites wouldn't bother you more.
>>342558069
Why do SJWs like waifufag games like these and not other ones, is what I don't understand.
>>342557882
SMTIV soundtrack is good. DDS is the best though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJo4uC9o_o
>>342557882
HACK YOU
>soul hackers 2 never
post hoys
>>342558384
>>342558384
>>342558384
Daily reminder Jonathan is right
>>342558384
Explain the 'I'll end it thus' meme.
>>342558095
Nigga, even when it's just a general megaten thread SMTIV gets spammed to shit. I'm tired of all these newfags.
>>342558021
>>342558041
>SMTIV is a cut above the rest in a series with consistently good music
> It's also the best Megaten OST
You clearly havent played much of the series so why don't you just keep your garbage opinions to yourself?
>>342558384
>>342558508
Play IV.
>>342558508
*smirk*
>>342558552
SMTIv is about the only urban music you can find now without a dubstep drop in games.
>>342553862
Gee, I wonder why I think he's a villain
>Meet him in a ruined city
>Says "We're going to fix this world" or whatever in the beginning
Sounds pretty villianious to me
>>342558552
>You clearly havent played much of the series
Ah yes, the "no one could possible have tastes different from mine" meme. A classic.
>>342558384
>>342557882
New Devil summoner that's not raidou when?
I don't care if it makes me a casual, I just want 1 static overworld map. It doesn't have to tell me where things are initially, it can be blank to start or whatever.
I never had problems navigating the overworld in III.
>>342557563
Whose the strongest to weakest out of these 4?
>>342558724
>fire emblem fags can only think in anime tropes
sounds about right
>>342558637
I'm busy with IS.
>>342558669
Who is the strongest SMT character? NotJesus, NotAdam, a half-demon, or a smiling man?
>>342558771
Atlus is just now releasing their first HD RPG tomorrow
>>342558724In SMT every faction is some form of evil, especially those that profess to be in the right
>>342558771
>not raidou
FUCK YOU
>Lucifer and Masakado design in IV
Fired the guest designer already
>>342558814
Cannot say, each one specializes in something.
>>342557882
I thought SMT4 caught the cyber punk vibe the best with its ost
>>342558920
Am I evil?
Is Mara evil?
Is the cat evil?
You speak blasphemy anon.
>literally moeblobed and waifushitted version of already bad IV
Yeah its fucking garbage.
>>342559010
>gun
>sword
>fist
>smiles
The answer is clear.
>>342558771
Even though they forgot Devil Summoner's 20th anniversary, they won't forgot Soul Hackers!
R-Right?
Should I just cash out for Mirage Sessions or wait for this?
>>342559012
Soul Hackers is about as cyberpunk as you can get
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJelY4ke2Rg&list=PLB31291A4621D69A2&index=14
>>342559272
Wait.
>>342544212
There are issues with the story that I really dislike toward the end of the game, but the mechanics (particularly smirk) and dungeons have been improved quite a bit.
Strange Journey 2 when
>>342559272
Mirage Sessions dungeons and battles are apparently good, and difficult enough that some reviewers have complanied about them being too hard.
I would just be embarrassed to play it in front of housemates though. Even in a house where we all sat around watching eachother play DOAX and Senran Kagura.
>>342558814
one is a random teenager
one is space jesus
one is a random teenager turned into a power demon
and one is a powerful mage
>>342559272
The only way to go is both.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcnKsbo9tXU
>>342559486
>its gets the Devil Summoner treatment and gets an FPS spinoff
>>342559486
Eventually.
>>342559529
>and difficult enough that some reviewers have complanied about them being too hard.
Reviewers complained about IV too. Doesn't mean much.
>>342558996
No Fuck You Leatherman
>>342559529
Sounds about the right difficulty then.
>>342559763
>Reviewers complained about IV too.
As expected of the Dark Souls of Persona.
>>342559763
Yeah but that was because of getting smirked. From what I've seen the reviewers are having trouble with the actual dungeon puzzles (which SMT IV barely had compared to Nocturne and especially SJ).
I'm personally gonna wait until I can watch someone play through at least the first couple of dungeons.
>>342544212
I played a bit of smt4 and it sucked.
>>342558826
You've probably never even played any of em, go fuck yourself.
>>342559763
>implying its not true for Naraku portion
After that it was a breeze but the first few hours are legitimately hard. Though constantly running out of MP is another reason
Will you a Frost?
>>342560289
>all these years
>still don't know if trap
>>342544212
>I adored SMTIV for its atmosphere
Stay away from Final then anon. Its waifufags pandering cashgrab with cheap fanservice here and there. Its not worthy.
>>342560462
I like that stuff too.
>>342557245
It's a real damn shame how hard it is to get this theme to play after David. Seriously, why the hell did they make it a 1/256 to find a fiend in really fucking specific areas? How did people even figure it out? Also, did they put this bullshit in Apocalypse? I'm fiend hunting right now and I can just feel the seconds ticking away.
>>342560289
Never hee a ho.
>>342560571
Isn't that the same chance you have of getting a shiny pokemon? I've never done that before either...
>>342560195
I would not call it legitimate, in the beginning you have shit skills and shit demon selection.
>>342560462
This. Literally raped IV lore with its bullshit. Powers of friendship bullshit in my edgy mainline now, how low mighty series have fallen.
>>342560448
looks like a tranny to me desu
>>342560751
>>Isn't that the same chance you have of getting a shiny pokemon?
That's 1 in 8192, but at least you can do that anywhere at any time.
>>342558903
Most people agree that is a tie between NotJesus and HalfDemon.
>>342560289
Hee-no.
>>342560561
Might as well buy #FE then. It seems to have a strongest dungeons and bosses since Strange Journey. And waifushit everywhere.
>>342560289
Even my dicks just said fuck that disgusting nose.
>>342560903
>Powers of friendship bullshit in my edgy mainline now, how low mighty series have fallen.
It has the edgiest ending in the series.
>inb4 Nocturnefags that have only played III disagree.
>>342558084
One okay ending doesn't make the other three endings disappear. And it's still pretty stupid and arguably presented in a way that makes it seem like the wrong choice. What with the glowing eyes, the parallels Nanashi has with YHVH, and all that. It really doesn't help that they also managed to make IV's chaos and law endings even less satisfying and more about wanking how special Nanashi is.
Final is fanfic shit.
>>342561349
>edgier than Nocturne
Lol no
>>342561057
To be fair from what I've seen some of them aren't that bad. Two of them are in shelters with no enemies, so you can do it without being reasonably conscious of what you are doing. The rest are obnoxious though, especially chemtrail.
This is a long shot, but does anyone happen to have a .cia file for the Japanese SMT IV DLC?
>>342561349
>It has the edgiest ending in the series.
>le kill all the gods and friends is edgier than all other endings from across the series with the same final outcome baka
Yeah, no. Its the same shit all over again but now with waifushit.
I'll ask here I guess.
Interested in SMT, the raidou games look really cool to me. Are they fine to begin with? Only experience with SMT was like an hour or two of SMT1 on SNES.
>>342561451
>edgier than Nocturne
Yeah, the game with the reset ending, you don't fight YHVH, and the MC doesn't can't beat Lucifer :^)
>>342561870
*doesn't even
>>342561850
yes, we aware that the combat of the first is really clunky.
>>342561850
the majority of SMT titles can be jumped into with no backround, Raidou is no exception
>>342561870
>>342562157
Thanks. Also how is maken x? I'll be honest and say I'm more of an action guy so a action game with the art and tone of the SMT games seems up my alley.
>>342561850
Raidou is not SMT.
Start with Nocturne, IV or DDSI-II.
Or with Persona 3 if you'll find yourself hard to enjoy random encounters at time.
Dropped Nocturne myself one time after shitsona because it looked boring to me at first. Tried DDS afterwards and it grew up on me in like first 4 hours.
>>342562370
only SMT about it is the artist. didnt feel like anything special when I played it
>>342562370
Is... interesting.
I can say that is the only game that i remember doing sword fps right, not sure about Maken Shao.
>and the MC doesn't can't beat Lucifer :^)
DLCs for Finalshit are non-canon, boy. Just as IVs Lucifer.
>>342562387
DDS isn't SMT either famitsu.
>Apocalypse has a happy Peace ending and dumb bullshit like the beach DLC.
>0/10 ruined mainline forever the Personages have won
>SMT2 has a happy Chaos ending and dumb bullshit like the love potion quest.
>10/10 greatest SMT ever.
>>342562679
ikr
Its closer to mainline than Raidou though.
>>342560571
Apocalypse now has the Fiends all in one dungeon iirc
>>342562715
It's how you get the ending anon.
>>342562387
Not really into persona, the high school setting isn't something I like personally. From my understanding the social links are major aspects of the games and honestly they don't seem interesting to me.
>>342562715
>and dumb bullshit like the love potion quest.
Sidelines sillyshit was always the part of SMT.
>>342562715
Those people also seem to forget that Apocalypse let's you go maximum over edge with the anarchy route.
Anyone who goes peace their first playthrough is doing it wrong.
>>342562715
>Implying the love potion quest wasn't retarded, implying it's nearly as important as a whole ending
>Implying you didn't have human beings resist you in II's chaos ending, or in III's freedom end
>>342563069
>implying waifugarbage and powers of friendship are part of some game endings only and not spilled over entire game with its fanfiction-tier story
>>342562387
>>342562767
What makes raidou not SMT? I thought other then the sub serieses they all are their own thing? Do you mean gameplay wise?
>>342563590
Yes.
>>342563390
>waifugarbage
post proof that isn't a non-canon DLC mission
>>342563773
Toki in general, at one point she climbs into your room and tries to confess and then Asahi walks in and gets upset. At another point someone talks about Asahi potentially marrying Nanashi and she gets flustered.
>>342563773
Sorry I wont search for videos right now just to prove something to blind fanboy that will buy this crap on release dubbed anyway. If you're really interested then just lurk for pretty much any videos with Hallelujah and Toki or any cutscene with Asahi. Amounts of 'umh, you're so cute today~ *blushing furiously*'-like animeshit in those are enormous even by Persona standarts.
>>342563773
http://imgur.com/a/xsou6
Spoilers, but scroll down and you'll see some of the stuff mentioned >>342564019.
>>342563773
Hallelujah is blushing and acting like an anime idiot everytime Toki shows up.
>>342562926
>From my understanding the social links are major aspects of the games and honestly they don't seem interesting to me.
They're at least 60% of the game if not more. I tried giving them a chance, but they're just not my thing. Persona 3 and up are for people who want social simulators but don't know what VNs are.
>>342548659
>That image
Well that was a depressing read
>>342564485
>still using the 80's-90's art work
They should really give Doi the time to redraw the demons.
>>342554768
I always had 50 on me and I dreaded getting another one from one of my demons
>>342564971
If only.
Forgot to mention that some of the spoilers >>342564485 are kind of wrong because these are hastily gathered screenshots from when the game leaked, but not the ones that anon mentioned.
>>342564971
>Dyke High Pixie will never be replaced by Raidou High Pixie
>>342564971
>redraw 400+ demons with his gradient technique within two years
Literally impossible. Better to draw more of his original demons. Pretty much everything he did in Final is perfect. Especially Dagda.
Is it possible to figure out how to get the certain ending in IV that ties it with Final on my own?
>>342558084
His eyebrow looks like a mini tree branch
>>342544212
>tfw no hiro shimono va
>>342559189
smile is the strongest attribute here
>>342545605
SMT IV is best enjoyed as a love letter to the old games but still using modern hardware yet not having the actual lore or interest of the older games since the art direction and voice acting and story are complete ass in IV. Doi's character portraits are literally so bad that I couldn't care about the characters no matter how good they could've been
>>342565965
Good. The less I have to listen to him, the better.
>>342566157
>>342560289
>>342545605
His death is story's main point overshadowing plot device, nothing more. It shows how you indirectly pushed nice guy towards Chaos without bad intentions.
Doimons are alright.
>>342557245
I never got this guy's quest.
I fainally get the 4 endings on SMTIV but...
The DLC worth the money?
Also I still need to kill 2 fiends, fuck that %
>>342544212
>All the recycled environments from SMTIV
I thought you SMT fans eat that shit up. Recycled demon portrates, design, clothes, even the poses poses. That's the reason I'm always hesitant to play these games. If I see Pixie flying in a sitting pose I'm gonna go nuts.
Also this motherfucker was so hard to beat.
I lost all my money and play coins to him.
>>342571349
>I thought you SMT fans eat that shit up
Yeah, even SMTfags that hate Persona are excited by its release because it means that Atlus is going to reuse the new HD assets for every new megaten game.
>>342571349
well I think that atlus still refuse to drop kaneko art
>>342545841
sounds good
>>342545841
You already sell me the game
>>342558724
Learn about how SMT alignments work. When you see Blasted and Infernal Tokyo, you'll realize that Neutral > Chaos > Law
>>342560571
I shit you not, it's entirely to reference SMT 1&2 who had the same mechanic.
>see thread
>makes me wanna replay 4 again
>not sure if I'll have the time
fug I never got the neutral or law routes are they worth it?
>>342562601
>DLC
Lucifer fuses with something in Apocalypse and the result isn't even a final boss.
>>342573465
>neutral
fuck I meant I never got the chaos or law routes I'm stupid
>>342556604
trauma man didn't direct it
>>342558814
Aleph>Demifiend>Hero>Flynn
Fuck MT, when's the new Maken?
>>342556689
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>>342573564
Guys, stop fearmongering it's not that bad.
It looks fanfic-tier in the summaries, but it's pretty well executed.
