http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/06/23/nintendo-nx-cartridge-rumor-evidence-trademark/
it's just a rumor, r-rite g-guys?
flash cards
>>342534813
that would be pretty cool but i'm sure as fuck is not true. they are going to stick with blu ray disk or something
>Kept you waiting you, huh?
I don't see why they wouldn't. Flash memory is really good now and a lot cheaper than it was
>inb4 it turns out it's actually proprietary memory cards like Vita
Honestly a better idea would be this
when you go to the store, the video game you buy is burned into your memory using a laser.. completely harmeless
when you go back home, you put some plugs in your head and you mentally select which video game you want to play from memory
easy piracy fix
>1999
>Being a cheating, senile old man
There's no problem with cartridges, they also mean little load time.
RIP even the illusion of 3rd party support
s-s-s-stop tt-t-typing like a r-r-r-retard r-r-r-rite gg--g-g-g-guys???
>>342535238
still more expensive than Dvds and that might scare small devs and jew corps from making games for them
Cartridges would be great, purely for the aesthetic appeal.
>>342535316
They are expensive to mass produce, and I'm sure Nintendo will have a proprietary format, making other people except Nintendo hesitant to bother.
now pcfags will never be able to pirate it, brilliant move nintendo
>>342535326
3rd party support is a meme
>>342535440
Small devs could just go digital only though.
>>342534813
Pretty stupid if true. All the benefits cited do nothing to improve gameplay. BDs are used for their low cost advantage. Sony decides media formats because they don't just make games. Nintendo is not retarded enough to do something this stupid.
>>342535538
you cant be this dumb
enjoy your 16 mb games, faggots
>>342535570
Yeah, only Sony can make good decisions for media formats, especially for portable consoles. UMD is a fucking hit!
>>342534813
CDs were popular in video games for cost and space but carts were superior for it could hold chips to run special games.
this is a return to old, this is good.
>>342535440
Who cares? Non-exclusive third parties are best played on PC anyways.
>M-muh sales!!
Good for you, investor san
>>342535546
It makes normies buy the console, which means more games from the 1st parties.
The WiiU sold like shit, so it was pretty much abandoned after Smash 4 came out, with only small titles coming out after.
>>342535674
I didn't say they made good decisions. I said they are the only ones who can make decisions. Fuck off you stupid memer.
>>342535514
>They are expensive to mass produce
Like 3DS and Vita catridges, right?
>>342535796
3rd party support didn't make normies buy the wii
>>342535832
Same applies mate, if you imply they could make a decision, that means you're implying they can pretty much force anything into existence, which means the UMD is a good format.
>>342535702
Shit is all run in software now, that would make absolutely no difference.
>>342535702
It's only good if you return back to the time when video games were 64 MB filesize.
Otherwise you will experience shit slow load time.
>>342535962
>if you imply they could make a decision, that means you're implying they can pretty much force anything into existence
I agree.
>which means the UMD is a good format
No it doesn't. Fuck off. Last (you), hope you don't die from withdrawal.
they're more expensive to make but i think a lot of people don't realize how much it costs to make them
read only media costs only about $0.50 to make
yes, the bean counters that have destroyed printed manuals from making it into boxes will be pissed off about it, but it's not significant enough to make the price of a game rise by $10
>>342535962
Not him but you're fucking retarded.
>>342536148
>No it doesn't
Yes it does, they tried to force the UMD into existence, and it failed.
>>342536152
I'm not sure you're right about that.
Even if you talk about the feces tier 3ds ROM that transfers 7 MB /s, that's a little bit too cheap.
>>342535440
Nintendo has never had good third parties so what does it matter.
That just means it will be like every other nintendo system
>>342535952
Vita carts cost 4-6 times as much to produce as a Bluray, and top off at 4GB instead of 50GB to give you an idea of price.
>>342536152
>$0.50
Per unit? If so that's an absolutely massive increase considering it holds no advantages.
>>342534813
Considering the speed at which technology increases, cartridges should have always been the format of choice. CDs were chosen simply because they were cheaper to manufacture.
Cartridges allow the system to be modular.
What if the the cartridges are penis shaped?!
It's decent evidence, but it isn't conclusive.
The same person who found it also found out that Ever Oasis, the new 3DS game they announced at E3, also states video game DISCS, despite being a 3DS game.
It means the Zelda trademark doesn't really mean anything, or we're looking at a console port of Ever Oasis eventually.
>>342536423
>Cartridges allow the system to be modular.
So you want to be forced to pay for an additional CPU core just because the NX is too weak ass?
Let's say some games needed a core i7, your game would now cost 700 USD for the cartridge.
Is that a good idea?
>>342534813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYcf2yUgblc
Prime example of why cartridges are superior.
This is an NES game with additional chips that boosted the visual and sound performance.
>>342536713
Better than needing to buy a new console in my opinion.
>>342535754
>>342536385
you guys need to remember that nintendo is also a company and need to make money. scaring devs away is not the way to go.
the last console was kill by two things. it was underpowered and NO third party support
>need processing power
>want it to be run as fast as possible
>bothering with external memory and not just installing directly onto the harddrive
Why isn't this done?
Hell, harddrives are literally just stacks of CDs, why don't we have the option to just put the game disk in the HDD and run it directly from there at least?
>>342536423
PS2, PS3 and PS4 all have disc drives and have "modular" slots for HDD.
>>342536846
the wii was also underpowered and had shit 3rd party support
>>342536397
Vita and 3DS cartridges are also limited by their size. If you had a cartridge that is the size of an SSD or something, it wouldn't be that expensive or that small in capacity
>>342536813
Brilliant. Why don't we just sell consoles without CPU, and put a CPU into every cartridge.
Probably not.
Because this is exactly the kind of stupid thing Nintendo would do. And would do it with glee.
>>342536978
it's not stupid though you retarded tripfaggot
>>342536713
Quality over quantity m8.
Also cores could be custom and purpose built. That would cut down on the market price.
Long term, it would likely expand the generation life. Games could just be coupled with new tech.
Also todays prices are completely arbitrary, the price points remain what they are mostly out of tradition. No other reason.
>>342534813
no shit it's a rumor, what are you fucking retarded
>being against cartridges
Who could be this retarded?
>>342536978
Shut up Boco
>>342536789
now think for a moment how much that "additional chip" will cost? at this age.
>>342536882
because people like physical media
>>342534813
Nintendo still uses cartridges. It's called the 3DS. If anything, this lends more credence to the NX being a console-handheld hybrid. Play your disc-based NX games on the go using cartridges. Imagine some cartridges coming with an additional chipset like with the Super FX chip to improve the game, and also being able to dock these cartridges with the console version of the NX for faster access speeds.
Buy a game, and you get the disc and the cartridge for it.
>>342537086
>Also cores could be custom and purpose built. That would cut down on the market price.
Yes, you would only cost 500 Million dollars to develop a new cpu every time.
>>342536954
Are you hearing yourself? A physically bigger flash drive is just smaller drives arranged together. The price would proportionally increase as well.
>>342536959
we can pack the gpu on the cart too so no one is running on out of date specs.
new game price $489
>>342535832
But UMD proves that sony don't "decide" anything and that this isn't a stupid decision so what the hell are you saying
>>342537190
and what? Harddrives are mental media, social media?
>>342537195
Just like PS4/Vita games?
>>342536882
PS4 does that. All games install everything to the HDD. and just run it from there.
>>342536954
The only reason to go with carts in this day and age is so the handheld and home console can both use the same format. If a handheld is using it too then you want to go as small as possible.
>>342537307
i mean people like having individual game boxes
>>342537081
>>342537156
Would it still mean less data than CDs? Because that fucked over the N64.
Literally the only thing I care about is that I may finally be able to play Monster Hunter on a fucking console again. Handhelds always have great libraries but I find nothing enjoyable about playing them.
>>342537385
Does the Vita dock with the PS4 and provide enhancements to the console version of the game?
>>342537435
shut the fuck up you retarded faggot
>>342537306
Blu ray proved otherwise
>>342537473
Does the NX?
>>342536423
>Cartridges allow the system to be modular.
I think you're expecting far, far too much if you think you're going to see the return of the NES/Genesis/SNES style cartridges that could house extra processors and connected directly into the console's motherboard.
If anything, a modern cartridge would be an SDHC/SDXC with a UHS designation that would put it somewhere in the ballpark of an HDD in terms of read speed or much, much slower if they aren't going to bother running the game off the cartridge.
>>342534813
Any type of non disc would be best for the consumer, if they keep the price point of basic games being $60 max.
Faster loading
No noise
Wouldn't need HDD installs
Are more physically protected, Discs scratch easy, not blu ray of course
Discs advantage are cheap, cheap for large storage quality, disc reading technology already there, case designs already there.
However Nintendo would avoid paying any royalties anyway to any Disc related things, so it makes sense they would go to a non disc medium. Like did you know that the WiiU to avoid paying royalties to disc companies, the WiiU actually spins its discs backwards?
Of course unless Nintendo fronts the cost, or unless their console is wildly successful, third parties will hate them for having to pay a little more to make them.
>>342537435
N64 was restricted because it was an 64 bit system.
Going by Moore's law and that the N64 was made 20 years ago, we have ~1.3^36 bit systems now.
There's literally no restriction any more.
>>342537435
yeah and the gamecube was selling like hotcakes because it finally moved to CDs
>>342537435
They only stupid thing is that it would still cost more.
But nowadays you can make bigger carts.
>>342537735
Really? Huh. I thought they were still limited in size, like the 64 was. Thats good to hear.
Still, you just know the only reason Nintendo wants carts again is because they're harder to pirate.
>>342537473
No the PS4 is the most powerful console in the market. Also nice speculation.
>>342534813
Yeah, it's not a bad idea.
>Fast read speeds
>Last longer
>Will not break as easily
>Nostalgia + Collection
>Prevent Piracy ( or try at least )
When some time ago I suggested that the new nitendo should move to cartidges most people were like:
>r u retarded
>blu rey is the way to go, fag.
I want to see cartidges on the NX.
please nintendo. do it
>>342537735
that's not what moore's law means retard
>>342537473
enhancements like what ?
second scene like the gamepad
we all know how well that goes
>>342537959
>>>Fast read speeds
The other way around. You will get slower read speeds.
>>342537167
Our vidya prices are arbitrary.
There's really no rhyme or reason to them, they've been $60 new since the 80s.
>>342537526
UMD proved otherwise
>>342538056
source?
>>342537959
It's not gonna fucking prevent piracy lol.
Tell you what, though, it will not make a fuckton of noise when you're playing games.
PS3 made insufferable noise when you were trying to play games because the Bluray drive is LOUD AS FUCK. I dunno about Xbox One or PS4, but I don't imagine it's a lot better.
>>342535538
Yeah, as it happened for NES, SNES, N64, GBC, GBA DS and 3DS, right?
>>342538238
The 3ds and the new 3ds.
>>342537959
3DS use carts but didn't prevent piracy
>>342537635
>>342537872
>>342538038
Nobody knows, but I assume that it's on the table. Nintendo has wanted handheld-level sales for their consoles for some time now, so what better way than to have both devices in one? $400 device that can separate into a console and a handheld. Console is incomplete without the handheld docked (which is why a console/handheld combo costs so little). Handheld reads from cartridges and the console reads from discs and the handheld + cartridge combo. Imagine potential future add-ons that replace the handheld NX with an upgraded version that put the full NX console on par with the Scorpio/Neo.
There's a lot they can do.
>>342538248
PS4 is quite noisy, yes.
>>342538056
blue ray read speed = 27MB/Seconds at the outer edge.
blue ray random disk access = VERY SLOW
Typical cheap Flash Read Speed can be anything from 100+MB/s
Random access is WAY BETTER than an optical disk
You know the drill, fucking go kill yourself.
Will this push publishers onto Nintendo's Eshop?
>>342537959
Are you retarded? Blu-ray is the way to go, faggot.
>>342538432
there it is
>>342538108
im talking about companies. they sure as fuck not going to like the idea of making less profit. and people will outrage if game gets more expensive
>>342538334
>>342538248
I say TRY to prevent piracy
No one can prevent a hacker if he puts his mind on hacking something.
>>342538432
:'(
>>342538419
>Typical cheap Flash Read Speed can be anything from 100+MB/s
Cheap ass Nintendo flash speed = 5 MB per second.
>>342538375
Wow great idea! Sony can do this by reading a game from the disc and the installed game in the HDD! Imagine the power boost!
>>342538327
can you tell me with a source what the 3DS read speed is and compare it with the PS4
>>342538432
found the sony marketer
>>342538678
You own one, so you tell us about the shitty load times you are experiencing.
>>342537959
Also, now we don't have to deal with the double layer disc shit that can get fucked up.
Had the weirdest glitches in my smash copy at times cause apparently there was some issue between the layers so that things would run, but other things wouldn't load right.
>>342538056
People keep saying this, but honestly I don't know when was the last time I ever felt like 3DS load times were bad compared to any console game.
>>342538554
Or you just need a super secure system, not like Nintendo's blown open eShop.
>>342536397
>>342536954
Vita/3DS use near 7 YO flash technology. Price drops since then.
>>342538670
installing games is a meme
>>342536385
>Nintendo has never had good third parties
this is blatantly false, how old are you
>>342538419
You're forgetting that you can use a faster Bluray drive instead of a 1x drive and you're assuming that Nintendo won't cheap out with their flash carts to save money.
>>342538841
i don't own one, im not interested in 3DS games. why don't you tell me since you know so much about it
>>342538678
even if the 3Ds speed was slow as fuck
doesn't mean that nintendo would use a shitty flash interface.
USB3.0 flash drives can read at 230+MB/s.
Perhaps nintendo should implement something at those speeds.
>>342538670
It wouldn't be an HDD. You wouldn't be installing games to your HDD for faster read speeds, but just reading them. That's what the cartridges would be used for in conjunction with the discs. Also, the NX console would use the processing power of the NX handheld in conjunction to boost performance.
>>342538848
>honestly I don't know when was the last time I ever felt like 3DS load times were bad
You're not being very honest despite saying you are.
Also, modern desktop games can be 50 GB.
You can't compare their load speed to your 200 MB game.
>>342538890
Faster than cartridges :^)
This is definitely going to be a handheld. I'm actually pumped.
>>342539129
Ya, all those handheld versions of Just Dance. Fucking retard.
>>342536846
Wii U died cause of the stupid pad
>>342538056
Nigga are you stupid?
There's a reason modern games install half the game onto the internal drive from the drive. Bluray has fast read speeds but only if all the content being read is consecutive, making it fast for things like movies.
But if it's not consecutive data, like, when you're playing a video game, it's a lot slower.
>>342539015
>doesn't mean that nintendo would use a shitty flash interface.
If you know anything about bottlenecks, you would know you don't solve the whole problem by just boosting 1 part.
You need to boost the memory chips themselves, making them the more expensive types.
>>342539129
Yeah it uses cartridges that means it's a handheld just like the Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64
>>342539035
Wow, so reading from a external flash drive is faster than reading from an internal flash drive? You learn something new everyday.
A world with no HDD for consoles sounds like heaven to me.
this same rumor has happened for every system since the N64
they won't do it
>>342538995
nigga please.
what fast blu ray drive can read at 200MEGABYTES PER SECOND
at a 0.01 millisec random access speed??
I'm waiting you fucking idiot
>>342536846
lol do you think the Wii U has made them lose money? they've sold them at a profit since 2013 and the console had basically zero marketing except for meme spots, they've poured most of their resources in the 3DS after realizing the wii u was a bombed platform with no more support
>>342539224
I think you don't have the reading comprehension.
Playing the game from harddisk installation will always be faster than relying on the shit transfer speed the 3ds and new 3ds uses.
>>342535428As a normal person with a stutter: Fuck you, you piece of shit. We're not retarded. I hope you say something like that around a stutterer one day and get your ass kicked.
>>342539370
why would there be a rumor that the gamecube was going to use cartridges since that was already the norm for nintendo consoles?
>>342539129
Handheld new Zelda? Can't wait.
>>342534813
didn't we already knew it?
>>342534813
>Nintendo being hipsters AGAIN.
Just make a Console with a regular controller that uses disks. That's it.
>>342535440
Many companies have really been pusing digital sales so bluray vs. cart makes little difference.
Also the NX is a handheld so yes it's going to use carts in a fashion, just like very Nintendo handheld before it.
>>342536423
>Cartridges allow the system to be modular.
Not to mention the data is always accessible so loading times are BTFO
At this point, it's not really a bad move, the old issues of flash memory aren't really an issue anymore. But if they use proprietary carts that'll likely dissuade third party support.
>>342539516
typing out a stutter is a retard. i wasn't calling all stutterers retards you oversensitive faggot, but you definitely are one.
>>342539420
If the cheap slow reading carts already cost 4x what a disc does, why would they spend even more money on a fast cart?
You're not wrong that they exist, they just won't be used because it's too expensive.
>>342539680
Load times will be as slow as they always were.
>>342539698
>that'll likely dissuade third party support.
AGAIN.
>>342534813
So no backwards compatibility then.
>>342539765
Yeah tell that to my SD
>>342539528
because CD based consoles were the norm for everyone else and perceived to be the best option, people figured nintendo would stick with cartridges
>>342539571
Fuck you gaijin. Nintendo aren't cucks like Microsoft paying licensing fees to Sony of all fucking companies. Even the Wii-U doesn't use blu-rays to avoid paying them.
>>342539753
>>342539516
sorry i meant typing out a stutter is retarded.
PROS OF CARTRIDGES
>Very fast read speeds and random read speeds
>Robust, reliable and will last longer
>No need to install games, everything will run off the cartridge
>Silent. 0db
>Save your games to the cartridge
>It's cooler to collect
PROS OF BLU RAYS
>um... it's cheap I guess
>makes a good coaster
>>342539823
Your SSD doesn't exist in Nintendo's mind.
>>342534813
it makes perfect sense, since NX is also the 3ds successor
>>342539765
source?
>>342534813
Hey guys if NX is both Console and Handheld like some leaks stated - physically, how big are the cartridges ?
surely it can't be too small since games these days are huge, and it can't be too big since it wont fit the handheld
>>342539942
>>Very fast read speeds and random read speeds
Very slow read speeds and fast random read access
>>342539972
no it isn't
>>342539206
>Wii U died cause of the stupid pad
Gamepad is comfy as fuck.
WiiU bombed because people didnt understan the diference between Wii and WiiU and most people thought it was just a pheriperal for the wii. This is not opinion, is pretty much the official fact from nintendo, forbes, etc.
>>342535292
you can still do proprietary and stay cheap.
/v/, you don't get the picture here. It doesn't matter how functional a Cartridge would be, nobody is going to support it.
>>342539990
Nintendo being cheap asses.
I can see why Nintendo would want to use them. Knowing that Nintendo plays everything very safe, they would naturally prefer to sell a portable machine with no moving parts instead of a machine with a spinning disk inside of it, as a way to prevent crashes and the like.
Cartridges are an ok thing to nostalgia over, but im not sure if I would want them in main consoles again. They can get expensive as fuck, I remember shelling out like $75 for Banjo Tooie back in 2000 or whenever.
>>342540052
source?
>>342540209
See>>342540159
And see>>342538327
>>342540052
Do you hate everything, or just yourself?
Don't you want for Nintendo to succeed and actually make a good console after 20 years?
>>342540159
nice source
>>342539346
Why would it count as an external flash device? Nintendo would have control over the specifications of the cartridges, including read speeds, and I imagine that docking the NX handheld to the NX console would be the equivalent of connecting a piece of hardware through USB. They'd have to develop a proprietary method of connecting both devices. More than likely, you'd be getting read speeds closer to an SSD than an HDD.
Cartridges sucked, I'm glad we are past it. Discs are 5x more convenient and digital games are 5x more convenient than discs.
>>342540250
No, I just want you retards to understand Nintendo's slow shit won't eliminate loading time.
>>342539990
If carts meant no load times then all 3DS and Vita games would have no load times.
>>342540246
see >>342540293
and see >>342537524
>>342534813
Nintendo killing 3rd party support. One gen at a time.
>>342534813
>The superior media is back.
Discs fulfilled their purpose long time ago. Now they such and have to go.
Mfw nintendo uses cartridges and you can play ds and 3ds with the NX.
>>342540392
I guess you have never owned a 3ds before.
Everyone better be prepared for massive downgrades.
>>342540335
All of my SNES games still work
Half of my PSX games even boot.
>>342540354
Why would nintendo get out of it's way to sabotage it's own console? You just want nintendo to fail because you are a hater.
>>342540153
who gives a shit, they didnt need 3rd party support to sell the wii. 3rd parties were an afterthought. if the NX sells well, 3rd parties will be begging to put games on it
>>342539060
He said compared to any console game you mongoloid, PC games have almost no load time if you're playing an offline game.
>>342540546
>Half of my PSX games even boot.
Then you're doing something you shouldn't. You leave them on the floor or something?
>>342540461
no i haven't that's what i've been trying to tell you
>>342536789
>all of those extra sound channels
It sounds like modern-day chiptune stuff.
>>342540546
>Why would nintendo get out of it's way to sabotage it's own console?
The thing is they won't know it's sabotaging their console until they see the results.
>>342534813
Nintendo has been using carts forever. 3DS has carts.
>>342540546
>Why would nintendo get out of it's way to sabotage it's own console?
It's not a sabotage.
The 3ds has natural shit slow cartridges. You you think it's some kind of magical technology that will transcend time and space.
>>342540546
>Half of my PSX games even boot.
Well there's your problem. Have you tried putting them in your Playstation and not a DVR? It's ok anon, easy mistake to make.
>>342540623
Some on boxes, some on cake holders,
but it could be the console lens.
See? Even if it's the psx itself, it sucks.
Because I can't fucking play my games!!
That's why cartridges is the way to go.
No fucking moving parts that can break.
>>342540701
Gamecube Wii U and Wii use carts too ??????
>>342534813
Nintendo is moving to the cloud.
They are likely interested in flash cards for speed, as a substitute for downloading straight to drive. I will no doubt me more expensive than disks but I don't think it would be the problem carts were back on the n64 days.
>>342540573
>PC games have almost no load time if you're playing an offline game.
There exist this type of retard.
>>342540701
yes but if we use carts on a home console, chaos will ensue.
>>342539781
OH source?
>>342535326
>just like how there are no 3rd party 3ds games right?
>>342540546
>You just want nintendo to fail because you are a hater.
Is flash memory actually faster than optical drivers when it comes to transferring media?
>>342540749
Only newfags think that PSX is the dvr shit and not the codename sony used before releasing the Playstation
>tipthe codename was PSX
fucking newfag
>>342540559
>who gives a shit, they didnt need 3rd party support to sell the wii. 3rd parties were an afterthought.
That's why nobody bought it.
>if the NX sells well, 3rd parties will be begging to put games on it
>3rd parties will be begging to put games on it
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>342540807
stop talking shit faggot
>>342540924
Not the nintendo brand.
They are much slower.
>>342540928
Right, That's why I still play on my Dolphin and Revolution. They're my favorite nintendo consoles.
Why did Ninetndo stop trying after the Gamecube?
>>342540457
>They sell an add-on that allows you to play games on Discs.
>The first successful and useful add-on.
Want it so bad.
>>342541058
touche
>>342540932
>nobody bought the wii
Is this guy retarded
>>342541154
Or it gives people Jaguar CD PTSD and flops at retail.
>>342541172
Oh, sorry. I forgot only you bought the Wii.
>>342541136
after the SNES you mean right? you real question is, why did they stop making games solely for your outlook? The gamecube sold a whopping 20 million
>>342539280
It makes sense, it'd probably be an evolution of the Wii U's gamepad. You could use it as a home console but you could also play it on the go. It makes sense since the next Zelda game is going to be the exact same they said, if the hardware was going to be better they would at least bump up the resolution. Also the Wii U is doing awful in Japan, they need to recapture that audience. Usually the portable systems get a new iteration too before the home consoles.
>>342540685
THis. That soundtrack is fucking based.
>>342539516
>making fun of a kid with a stutter
>he hears me and squares up
>"it's time to d-d-d-duel!"
SSD = Fast
Nintendo cartridge = Slow
>>342541326
it doesn't make sense so i didn't read the rest of your shit post. the handheld hybrid is an insubstantiated rumor so don't pay attention to it until it's confirmed
>>342540924
Depends on type of memory. Most of the time it's faster. I don't honestly know if they even make slower flash memory anymore, because optical media is incredibly slow.
>>342541414
You need to be at least 18 to post here kid.
>>342541309
That's right I bought all of them
>>342541214
>Masses know about Jaguar.
Nope.jpg
Want to use your GC/Wii/WiiU games? You can with this completely unnecessary device.
It's not rocket science.
>>342541475
>>342541475
You need to open your eyes, gramps.
>>342541309
>>342541414
yawn
post something else
>>342541446
>I don't honestly know if they even make slower flash memory anymore
That's never an issue.
Nintendo loves to source old ass shit products everybody else discarded.
Just look at the 45nm CPU in the Wii U.
>>342541589
>yawn
That post was even worse brah
If they do use carts again, they'll end up very similar to the ctr-005/ntr-005 where you have a rom chip that holds the game and maybe some nand for saves.
Nintendo claims the max combined size of the 3ds ctr-005 carts is like 8gb, so with a larger double sided pcb you could probably get up to 40gb or so without driving the price up much. 32nm rom chips are getting cheaper so it's possible I guess.
Will it be cheaper than printing blurays or selling games online? Probably not, but at least it would differentiate nintendo's console a little more from the competition.
Friendly reminder that DS and 3DS has ZERO load time
>>342541659
>brah
>>342541402
>>342540924
Generally yes. My pc has an SSD and the OS loads in literal seconds, as well as all of the programs. And N64 games loaded instantaneously while PSX/Saturn/Dreamcast games took a minute or so.
>>342541670
nice false flag. post something else
>>342541670
on a 240p screen.
>>342541693
looks like david bowie
>>342540046
What if the pad is handheld?
>>342541627
They literally can't, though. Besides, technically speaking, the type of memory that would be used would be up to the people packaging the game.
It's not like Nintendo can come and say you can't use 6gbit flash ROM. They can design the interface to be slow as fuck, but that's about it.
>>342541910
then its way too big
>>342541919
Oh they can and will. The slow ass stuff you find in the 3ds in produced in mass quantity still.
>>342541756
I think it should be obvious that the kind of flash memory you're using in your SSD isn't going to be the kind that meets a mass market price for the average video game. N64 games were also EEPROM, not NAND. They were essentially mini circuit boards inside and plugged directly into the motherboard.
>>342535326
Cartridges are a form of storage like CDs, anon.
So just more Nintendo proprietary shit that makes them undesirable for third parties?
Well, whatever Nintendo decides to do with the NX, it's safe to bet that it'll be and almost good plan that they'll shit all up. Leaving both their detractors and fans questioning their overall competence... again.
>>342542171
muh turd parties :(
I wouldn't mind cartridges tbqh
I am used to discs but fuck them, they can be pretty noisy, get dirty very easily, very fragile and if the disc driver is fucked well.
>>342541670
You meant only the ds?
3ds have and it's awful. Fuck OS on gaming devices.
>>342542171
Games for PS4 and Xbox One are also proprietary, even though they use a non-proprietary format as carrier.
You can't play the games on other systems or do much with the BD.
>>342542230
Well Nintendo exclusives suck ass so.
>>342542359
don't concern yourself with them then
>>342536789
>sunsoft
best 8bit music maker to ever grace our shit planet desu
>>342541565
>One spoiled rich kid who bought all those Wiis.
Oh, what a top seller.
>>342540685
modern-day chiptune stuff sounds like garbage
>>342542065
It's obvious to everyone but Nintendo drones.
They see the SSDs and think that's actually what they are going to get.
Nintendo should do this.
Imagine NO FUCKING INSTALL TIMES.
This alone is an advantage SO FUCKING BIG that it's worth
Imagine having no worries about full hard drives, deleting-installing games, waiting and waiting for games to install.
all this gone.
>>342542551
I'd rather have an install time than shitty loading time from a slow cartridge.
THEYRE GONNA BE LIKE FLASH DRIVES YOU DOPES
INFINITELY BETTER THAN DISCS
>>342542550
>>342542641
post something else
>>342542641
oh have the specs been leaked or something?
source?
>>342542641
>The disc is the installer downloader.
This is the future you choose faggot.
How would this fit into my handheld
>>342542806
You don't have much to choose from.
It's either cheap and slow, or expensive and fast.
>>342542550
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds
That's a general outline of the kinds of read/write speeds available for SD cards. You have to get to higher end of UHS-I until you get comparable performance with a 5400rpm HDD.
If Nintendo is going to include an HDD and is just using cartridges to get rid of the optical drive, then it probably doesn't matter how fast the cart is because it will just install the data to the HDD.
Flash drives and sd cards are dirt cheap and have more room.
>>342537870
>because they're harder to pirate.
Are you actually retarded? No one pirates by burning disc copies anymore
>>342542359
>Nintendo Exclusives suck ass.
>All these niggas fucking asking them to go third party
Fuck off
>>342543114
What's PS1/PS2/SATUHN/DREAM CAST?
>>342543114
retard
>>342542995
oh, you are just a kid!
haha!!!!
>>342543283
We're not living in 1999 at this point in time
>>342543006
I bet you Nintendo is going to stick to slow speeds.
They love to save money everywhere when possible.
