How high does my IQ need to be in order to play and have fun with Grand Strategy games?
>>342423493
Pretty low if you're going to be playing that casualised shit.
>>342423493
For HoI 4 and EU4? Only marginally higher than /v/ average
>>342423729
How low? 105 (average east asian IQ)?
>>342423493
you have to read, something this nigga aint doing
at least 20 but no more than 130.
Why haven't you guys tried playing a Grand Strategy yet?
>>342423774
Hoi 2/DH Victoria 1 would force casuals to commit suicide
>>342423493
Yours is too low since you're asking such a retarded question.
>>342423814
Why do you think your IQ even matters? It's a fucking bullshit metric that people throw around to make themselves look smarter.
>>342423729
What do you play? Aurora?
>>342423969
Vic 1 maybe. HoI2 was simple as piss.
>>342423493
your IQ need to be VERY HIGH!!!
grand startegy is the game for the SMART PEOPLE!!!!! VERY INTELECTUAL!!!!!
>>342423493
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The idea that 'GSG' exists as a genre is false but clever marketing by Paradox.
The games are actually hyper simplistic, but have had such notoriously shit UIs its been a struggle for new players to play them, which is why they are considered 'hard'. The depth of most of them is wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle, a puddle that is muddied by its shitty UI.
If you pick up HoI4 or Stellaris you could get into it straight away because its the first games by Paradox with a workable UI.
>>342423969
HoI2 was the easiest HoI game before HoI4. Vicky 1 was not hard either, it had a shitty UI but there was nothing remotely challenging about the game itself.
>>342424230
Lets be honest here; TW is harder.
>Strategy + Tactics + Micro + Macro
At best GSG has strategy and macro.
>>342424040
sub 100 fag detected
>>342424595
I don't know about later TWs but the micro up to MTW2 is laughable. You could climb a small hill with a small group of horsemen and continually rush the enemy with the uphill bonus
>>342424040
Because stupid people like to feel smart and an arbitrary test helps them achieve it
EU4, CK2, HOI4, and Stellaris are all very easy to get into. The older titles in the first three franchises are more archaic at times but by no means impossible to understand.
Victoria 2 though, shit I'm still learning things about it years later.
>>342424595
TW doesn't have 1/10 the political options CK2 has. They're just different genres
>>342424893
Attila is easily harder in the strategy/macro part
TWW is absolutely unforgiving in the tactics/micro part
But yeah MTW2 is meh, but it is also old.
Everyone's opinion of Dominions?
Would it be a good game for a handful of GSG newbs to all buy to play together?
>>342424040
If your IQ is high I'm honestly happy for you, but if you haven't done anything worthwhile with it then no one cares.
>>342425038
Doesnt need them, its deep enough in all its parts in comparison to CK2 which is as deep as a puddle in all its. All in all TW is simply harder than any GSG game.
Also
>CK2
>political options
90% of its arbitrary shit that actually means nothing in gameplay
>>342424684
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/12/magazine/the-science-of-secondguessing.html
How bullshit is the whole IQ thing?
I tried one of those raven's matrixes tests (40 or 50 questions) and it gave me a result of 126. After reading the descriptions of each tier, I had a hard time believing in the result.
>>342423493
>implying HO4 Iis complex
This game is the most casual paradox title to date. It was made for retards like you.
>>342425352
It's not uncommon for higher IQ people to doubt themselves more and be more skeptical>>342425352
>>342425249
when I win a war in TW can I imprison my enemy's wife and daughters in my fuck dungeon and kill them when I'm bored of them? No? Then fuck off with that babby shit
>>342425352
Raven's matrices tests are one of the best tests you can take for an approximate of your IQ.
And IQ isn't bullshit. It correlates strongly with educational attainment, job performance, and health. It also correlates with income.
It definitely measures an aspect of your cognitive capacity that affects your ability to succeed in most aspects of life. Congrats on having a pretty good IQ (mine is around 118 but I round up to 120 to make myself feel better).
>>342424454
Nice. I'll give one of those a try. I remember checking CK2 and HoI3 a while ago, and I had no idea what the fuck I was supposed to do so I just gave up.
And HoI3 had different levels of zoom where shit was happening followed by supply lines. It was overwhelming at first glance.
>>342425352
Take the mensa test. Anything else is just bullshit. IQ is still pretty garbage, but the mensa test is the only one that actually measures it.
>>342424454
you're pretty dumb amigo. HOI4 and Stellaris are juts very simple games,s the UI doesn't matter. Victoria 2 has a pretty decent UI but can be pretty deep, especially with mods
>>342425014
I don't understand why people say Victoria 2 is hard to play or understand I mean I played 50 hours of it so far and to me it's just EU4 with annoying political pop-up spam and factories. 99% of the game is waiting around doing nothing until your infamy is low enough to declare war again just like EU4.
>>342425646
>And IQ isn't bullshit. It correlates strongly with educational attainment, job performance, and health.
>It also correlates with income.
100% bullshit
>>342423493
Man I should pirate all the DLC and play EU IV again. One game against AI lasted me weeks.
>>342425167
I really like dominions but I wouldn't really compare it to GSG. The amount of nations and variation is really large with the same nation playing differently between ages, but there's a large focus on research/mages/gods instead of politics and countries and intrigue
>>342424118
>Aurora
>difficult
Maybe if you're a massive casual
>>342424595
Total war games are all stupidly easy though, across the entire series the only way to have a remotely challenging campaign is to give the AI unfair advantages, because they're far to stupid to beat you in a fair fight even at the strategy level
Additionally, strategy mechanics though pretty abstract across both series are 10x deeper across paradox grand strategy, and unlike total war the AI actually knows how to play the strategy game.
Comparing total war strategy to paradox GS is a joke, in GS it's the whole game whereas in TW its more like a minigame to pad out time between battles. On top of that you have the retarded TW movement system which means 70% of battles take place as seiges against garrison units.
Both games are real time with pause so micro means absolutely nothing unless you're playing multiplayer, in which case it can be just as important (especially in games like HOI3 or even Vicky 2 you have much more to keep tabs on for warfare alone, let alone all the other shit you have to manage at the same time)
>>342425718
Yea, intelligence researchers exclusively rely on the MENSA test and not RPM, WAIS, Stanford–Binet -- pffft AHAHAHA
>>342425352
Raven's is one of if not the best option you'll find online. Ignore the dumbasses saying otherwise.
>>342426003
Aurora is demonstrably the most complex game out there in terms of sheer possibilities. There may be harder twitch/reaction games but you couldn't name a single more complex game. The only thing that springs to mind is War in the East
>>342423493
i think to appreciate the game you need study/ have studied history
>>342423493
More like how low does it need to be to enjoy them
>the AI still focuses on the player more than what benefits itself
Into the trash it goes
>>342426163
Isn't it best to go to a professional psychologist to administer one?
>>342426163
>>342425891
>>342425646
>>342425718
Very different opinions. Thanks for the information, I guess I'll read up on it a bit more later.
>>342423493
Been enjoying this alot for the last few days.
pic related, its my first civ game
At least 80.
They are braindead idle sims.
>>342426438
goes without saying
You don't need a high IQ. Just slight autism and a tendency to hate fun and prefer to just memorize pointless shit.
It depends. If you master pic related and fully know the intricacies of all its mechanics, then you deserve a nobel prize. Literally nobody fully understands Victoria 2. People wrote multiple page analyses explaining their understanding of the game's economic system and the cause of it fucking itself over in the late game, but no consensus was ever reached.
>>342425352
got a link to the test?
>>342426620
Legend says not even the developers themselves know how the game fully works either.
>>342425352
>meme online tests
Literally worthless. Take the real in-person version or GTFO. Only a trained psychologist can give you a valid evaluation.
>>342426629
http://www.iqtest.dk/main.swf
Here you go. I got it from Quora.
>inb4 flash
I know.
>>342426276
I had a harder time getting into Paradox grand strategy games than I had learning Aurora.
>>342424040
Actually, IQ is pretty important, but not for most video games.
High IQ is useful for strategy games and any other game that requires planning, also puzzle games, but other than that, you won't be using it much in vidya.
IQ is simply how well you recognize patterns. Someone with a 140+ IQ is going to be God Tier at strategy games or things like Xenoblade if they actually take the time to learn how it works, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll have the patience.
IQ does not, however, indicate how fast you think, so a retard (that word doesn't really work since it means "slow" or "delayed" in Italian, but retards aren't slow; they just don't recognize patterns that would be apparent to the average human being) with a fast brain would be much better at, say, Call of Duty than a 150+ IQ Genius that simply doesn't think quickly.
>>342426163
Stanford Binet IS one of the tests MENSA administers so yeah. Any one deemed acceptable by mensa falls under the subset "MENSA tests". If you claim otherwise you are clearly buttblasted because you didnt do well enough to qualify for MENSA.
>>342426620
You're mistaking Victoria 2 for HOI3, dumb faggot. That shit is easy as pie, you nigger.
>>342426818
That is THE test my man
>>342426798
Nah, those cost money anon. If IQ is actually worth something I guess that's nice. I won't be paying for it any time soon.
>>342426924
I think you're confusing being easy to learn and easy to master. It's not that hard to learn enough of Victoria 2 to play well and "win". Actually "understanding" it, however, is near impossible.
>>342426863
I find that impossible to believe. Any post-2012 PDX title was targeted at a mas audience, there is nothing complex about them
>>342426894
How come only East Asians and Whites dominate the e-sports industry though?
>>342426894
>IQ does not, however, indicate how fast you think
generally (not always but generally) someone with the brain power to solve a more complex problem will be able to more quickly solve a less complex problem than someone who can't solve the more complex problem
>>342427171
>what are fighting games
>>342425881
I take it you never got around to sphering
most people don't even realize the things they can do with the diplomatic menu until they've watched someone do it on youtube. For instance you can create an UberGermany by 1848 out of all the Australian and German territories by forming Germany, stealing austria's germanic spheres, then conquering them.
would i like EU4 if i thought CK2 involved too much fast forward waiting around for shit to happen?
>>342427297
>Australian and German territories
>>342427364
what's weird is that I managed to get both in there rather than just sticking to one of them
>>342427306
CK2 is about roleplaying, if you want to have fun don't pause to get things done
There's no need to try and play optimally, the game is very forgiving, which is why it might feel like you're not doing much if you keep pausing
>>342427297
BUT WAIT, THERE IS MORE. If you release PLC from Austria, get a conquer CB on them, attack them and get 100% (don't peace out), THEN ATTACK RUSSIA TO RELEASE THE ENTIRE PLC, THEN WIN, AND THEN PEACE OUT WITH THE CONQUER WAR AGAINST PLC! YOU CAN MAKE THE BIGGEST GERMANY, YOU HAVE EVER SEEN!
does HoI IV shit itself when fighting the Pacific War
it seems fighting in asia has been less of a nightmare but i heard naval invasions are kind of fucked right now
whats it like?
>>342427128
It took me around an afternoon of watching YouTube to figure Aurora out. Most of the difficulty comes from the interface.
>>342427297
>pretending that making a germanyblob is in any way, shape or form advanced or difficult
Babbys first nation.
>>342425596
Like I said, totally irrelevant to gameplay. So thanks for proving my point.
>>342427868
The game is fucked. Everything's fucked about it. Just play Darkest Hour or HoI3 if you want your WW2 kick.
>>342428007
Yep, Prussia is perfect for learning the ropes
Not everyone can conquer China as Mongolia/Bhutan
>>342427252
I'm aware of this. I said what I did, though, because I'm the exception. I have a high IQ, but I think rather sluggishly. If I want to get an accurate IQ score, I have to take a test two or three times since it just takes a while to click with me. Otherwise I run out of time.
Then again, I do have ADHD, so maybe that's why.
>>342428119
I don't think you understand what gameplay means
>>342428159
HoI3 is fucked with japan though because Murka is super confused and supply flow in asia is garbage because your shit will go through 3 infra provinces even if you improve infrastructure nearby to like 7
>>342427297
>mfw i did all of that the first time I played the game
I think you're just dumb, my son.
>>342427868
It's completely broken. When I was at war with the USA, they sent maybe 25% of their fleet to the pacific while everything else sat in the Atlantic doing fuck all for the entire war.
This was a lot less fun than I thought it would be, I just stopped after taking out the major factions.
>>342428269
same for me brother. i've been a recluse for 6 years. since i have so much spare time i think about pointless shit a lot more than most people. so my IQ seems higher on tests than it probably really is.
>>342428357
well china is a shithole, what do you expect? Makes perfect sense.
HOI4 is pretty fuckin easy to play
>>342428159
fuck telling people to play HOI3, it's fun to set up one or two invasion every once in a while but only because the insane effort you have to put in to do the simplest shit makes it feel more rewarding when you actually get shit done. Across a whole campaign though most of the mechanics are a massive chore.
>reorganizing your OOB and lines after an invasion
mind numbingly boring
Also, for whatever reason the first 4 speeds are all way to slow for non-combat gameplay, but the 5th speed is too fast to be useful outside of short bursts. Its a wonder they even let you pause considering how slow speed 4 already is.
>>342428446
so in america there's a pearl harbor gambit in the natl focuses
was there at least a pearl harbor scenario that presented itself or what
i thought there was shit in this game that made countries act 'historically'
>>342428641
it's still completely broken, I'll give them 6 months to actually finish it
>>342426276
Dwarf Fortress is far more complex
>>342428774
>6 months
lol
>>342428760
Are you trying to say something or ask a question?
>>342423493
I'm 128 and I enjoy them a lot.
>>342428837
no it isn't and it doesn't help that the game grinds to a halt when your fortress grows to a couple hundred
>>342428880
I said finish it i.e. make the AI not 100% retarded, not "finish the features", that would be 2-3 years
>>342428760
All I got was a war justification on Hawaii with a time limit of about 6 months.
I attempted to replicate it and send naval bombers to fuck them up, but there was no fleet there or soldiers. Literally just one division took the islands.
>>342428912
>was there at least a pearl harbor scenario that presented itself or what
>>342428837
>Dwarf Fortress is far more complex
nice bait
>>342424040
90 IQ pleb detected
>>342429059
Shit like that i was thinking was gonnna be HoI IV's saving grace but even thats not happening huh
fuck
>>342423493
Not very, it just gets boring while you wait to see the fruit of your actions
>>342427662
is it easier to gain new territory in EU4? i might just be a garbage player but it felt like it took forever to get anywhere through marriages or casus belli
>>342426924
Both games have their flaws and are easy but, HoI3 has more and makes the game a lot more easier.
>Make a troll train, a line of troops that follow each other and go through essential victory points
>Odd combat line with fuck up the AI
>enjoy fucking up everyone in Europe as any fucking nation
Also, paratroopers are too over powered, you could easily pull a number and conquer anyone except USSR due to their AA fuckery
Worst thing about V2 combat is that you can get a 10 stack of planes, occupy and hold the line and see as AI bounce off your planes and get destroyed
>>342427106
Have you ever tried to play hearts of iron 3?
>>342423493
IQ not necessarily much higher than 100. You need to be well within the autism spectrum though.
did I ever tell you guys about the time poland survived the entire war
I was pretty proud of getting it right on how to do it the first try
>>342429062
You know the key on your keyboard that looks like a upside down hook? You can press that to hold shift to make question marks, that way people can know whether or not you're asking questions or not.
Anyway, there is a political focus that should make Japan attack Pearl Harbor, but Japan also has to have the inkling to attack the US, and have followed their political focus tree that leads to the war against the US.
>>342425352
online IQ tests are complete bullshit. You need a qualified person, like a psychologist, to get a realistic score.
>>342426620
So this game is difficult not because of intentional complexity but because Paradox yet again bugged the shit out of it and never fixed it?
>>342429231
Ultimately no, if you know what you're doing it's pretty easy to get territory in CK2. In EUIV it's a little easier but only because warfare is more of a focus in EUIV than CK2.
Not to say that warfare CK2 doesn't have depth, it's that there are more rules to casus bellis to work around.
>>342429381
I kek'd when I saw how much territory you had
Dunno if that's actually a good finish or not as poland tho
I once had a proper IQ test, I got 114, thats good I guess? I've never really had much context for it other than if you have below 80, you gotta go to special school forrest gump.
>>342426894
It is also good to bring you that you can TRAIN to recognize patterns.
Literally anyone who works with debugging or creates his own kernels when programming should have a IQ higher than before starting his job.
There is a certain correlation between IQ (identify patterns) and being actually smart, but it is less clear than you might think.
>>342429945
>other than if you have below 80, you gotta go to special school forrest gump.
unless you're black, then you get a Harvard scholarship.
As someone who's never played HoI and whose only real Paradox game is CK2, should I buy HoI4?
>>342426620
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>get diagnosed as a "genius" with 140+ IQ
>I'm 22 and sit at home leeching of the state to substain myself
Having high IQ is less important than having good social skills, to be honest.
>>342430112
no, wait like a year. It's broken as fuck
>>342430235
>substain
You certainly are some kind of special
>all this talk about IQ
>brought up with people talking up how "bright" I am
>come to the realization in high school that I'm actually pretty dense
Screwed me up a bit, so, fuck it. Whatever. Grand strategy isn't that hard, though.
>>342430196
i heard about that liquor lords shit spammed on /v/ but i never saw that in /vg/ before
is that really true that just spamming whiskey and wine factories lets you rake in cash compared to making production chains of cloth/clothes/fancy clothes or steel mills and weapons factories etc.?
>>342426894
>IQ does not, however, indicate how fast you think, so a retard (that word doesn't really work since it means "slow" or "delayed" in Italian, but retards aren't slow; they just don't recognize patterns that would be apparent to the average human being) with a fast brain would be much better at, say, Call of Duty than a 150+ IQ Genius that simply doesn't think quickly.
>>342427171
>Almost zero black people involved in games like starcraft or MOBAs
>Represent a disproportionately large portion of the fighting game community.
Make your own judgements.
>>342430351
Can you tell me how broken it is? Because I don't mind if it's easy, as long as I can make the New Roman Empire.
>>342430356
It's 5 AM nigga.
>>342430112
I would suggest getting either Hoi3 or Darkest Hour/Arsenal of Democracy.
>>342430480
>makes up words
>can't manage a sleep schedule
Not helping your case
>>342430479
the AI is a potato. In my games the UK always invades Italy and they don't do shit to defend themselves, lose half their territory, wars never quite finish because "defeated" states just keep on existing, most wars are a super boring and long stalemate, the US rarely does anything and so on and so on
>>342430529
I have Darkest Hour, but it seems to run like fucking shit, despite the fact I can run games like DOOM no problem.
>>342430437
That's right, its extremely profitable in comparison to production cost and never really gets produced enough to satisfy demand
>>342426706
Developer in charge of the economy model left the company and didn't leave any notes on how the economy works
>>342430235
Or skills at all :^)
>>342423493
grand strategy is casual compared to high level 4X play
>>342430671
I actually have the same problem. Everything's fine up untill 1944 or so, and then the speed just plummets. I think it has something to do with all of the divisions that just pile up everywhere.
>>342423493
After ck2 bout 80
>>342430909
IDK i've seen guys like filthyrobot play competitive Civ 5 and it looks like a joke compared to MP GS games
>>342423493
About tree fiddy
>>342430936
It's not even until a certain time, it just always runs like crap and I have no clue why.
>>342430112
No it's a broken piece of shit and fails to improve on its predecessor in any way besides the production system
The AI is barely function and extremely passive, it will frequently ignore your encirclements and won't even attempt to breakout
The air system is a mess, you're not even able to designate specific missions.
They gut out the OOB from HoI3 and forgot to replace it with anything, you can literally command your entire military using a single field marshal
The war conference system leads to ugly ass maps
The tech trees are simplified to an extent that allows minors to easily keep up with majors in technology
And fuck the battleplan system, you can set a frontline and the AI will rearrange troops on it t for no fucking reason and it resets their organization each time
>>342430976
what are some good clips of MP paradox games?
>>342426818
102
time to die
Anyone know a good Axis & Allies version for PC that has either hotseat or local multiplayer?
>>342431132
i was just talking bullshit idk
I own CK2 but never got into grand strat. I love stuff like Chess and Total War though. Is the GOT mod a good starting point?
>>342430976
>Civ V
>high level 4x
Civ V is babby casual tier
>>342431267
what is a 4X game with a semi-active competitive multiplayer scene
>>342431238
GOT CK2 was how I learned the game. Had a pretty easy time with the North.
>>342426490
>mfw that nigger made a new UI mod
>its just a "concept"
>>342423493
>draw a battle plan
>press the I win button
HoI 4 is actually casual garbage. It has potential, but it's marred by the landholding and the fact that it is not challenging at all. Shame because it's less obtuse than HoI3 in some places, and not a totally incomplete mess that crashes when you breathe at it.
>>342431140
Don't do it anon, that's still 2 points above average!
Think of your waifu and how sad she would be if you were gone.
>>342430437
The reason is that the base profitability is lower than most factories, so AI doesn't build it, but too many pops require it.
So, you can easily monopolize on liquor AND ONLY LIQUOR, NOT WINE.
>mfw can't even get into turned based games at all
>not because of attention span, but because learning new mechanics is too hard since im not a kid anymore
>HOMM3 - 3 manuals (209 pages)
just fuck my shit up already
>>342431750
Literally all the same fighting mechanics exist in HOI4 from HOI3, aside from HOI4 being in dire need of a good terrain mapmode you can play the game exactly the same.
And of course full micro offers you massive benefits, the only real problem is not being able to stop untis from fucking strategic redeploying when I want them to keep their organization
>>342431432
What was the result of your campaign? Took some more lands? Married a dragon qt? Conquered the plebs at the Reach?
In HoI4 as Germany, why can I justify a war goal against netherlands as soon I start the game, declare war after it's justified, easily crush the netherlands, and annex 100% of their territory which gives me a bunch of oil and other resources (indonesian territory) without Britain or anyone doing anything about it?
Seems a bit too EZ. Also as soon as possible in the game I start growing fascism in Britain, France, and America. Though I usually grab those "increase political power by 15%" policies under Laws and Government to offset the political power drain.
>>342423493
>Mercator Projection
>>342432815
what's that?
>>342432120
Battleplans can get you up to like an 80% planning bonus, which is pretty fucking huge
It's just rarely worth it because of the strategic redeployment bullshit
>People thinking playing as a major power in Vicky 2 or HoI4 is more complex than Three Mountains in EU4
I can be mediocre at a deeper game too
I can't for the life of me figure out or enjoy EU4 but I have 1000 hours in Vic2
HOI 4 isn't grand strategy.
>>342423969
>vic 1
>be uruguay
>get endless immigration
>end up as a 30 million nation, 75% russian and polish
feels gud.
>>342423493
Strategy games and real life warfare in general is about knowing how your enemy acts so you can counter his strategy.
You just need to study how the AI acts.
>>342433103
I don't get what you're saying
Would conquering the world as Ryuku not be extremely harder in Vic 2 compared to EU4?
>>342427171
That's more a sociological factor then biological, I think. In east asia games are basically sports, and teams and emphasis is raised on that front, so you get a lot of players. On the other side, primarily black nations are usually embroiled in chaos by civil wars n shit, so there arent going to be teams or shit.
Meanwhile fighting games are less team based and more individual, so melting pot countries like the US have more representation available.
>>342432120
I don't mind the basic mechanics for how battles work, that's fine.
My problem is that the battle plan system is trash with literally no depth or options beyond 'Draw a massive line around what you, and press 1 button to get there", that microing is tedious because how the UI and unit selection is handled, and the AI is trash. Not to mention you are literally punished with a less effective army for not using the battle planner because of planning.
The battle plan needs a little more work. The AI needs a lot more work, and the game needs to be rebalanced stat. It's impossible to lose unless you're an actual retard or playing a minor-minor.
>>342423493
High enough to understand the UI. I think 85 will do it, though you might be able to get through with 60.
>>342433436
He's saying that although Vic2 is a deeper game, there are things you can do in EU4 that is more difficult than in Vic2.
He is not saying that the most difficult things you can do in EU4 are harder or the same level as difficulty as the most difficult things you can do in Vic2.
tl;dr playing vic2 does not necessarily mean you're doing something more complex than someone playing eu4
>>342433570
>>342423814
If you want a game that requires IQ to enjoy, try TIS-100 and Spacechem.
>>342423493
Lower than average of you want to play neo-Paradox shit
>>342433458
It's not sociological. It's because whites and east asians are smarter than everyone else.
>Meanwhile fighting games are less team based and more individual
Aren't the best fighting pros ever all east asian?
>>342432147
I wound up throwing in with Aegon IV, helped him unite the seven kingdoms, waged a war to reforge Ice, became independent after Aegon died and claimed anything touched by Freys and some of the Vale. Dany's line died out so the dragons (and all of Slaver's Bay) passed to Aegon's kid, so now shit is about to go down.
Who /140IQ/ here?
>>342433093
You do realize you still keep any built up planning bonus even if you delete the plan entirely and micromanage right? I do that all the time.
>>342434098
You still have to set a frontline for the planning period which will completely fuck up however you set your troops
I'd much rather not have to deal with the system at all
>>342433902
What the fuck? I remember that the mod was set in the Conquest, not in the current era.
> Dany's line died out so the dragons (and all of Slaver's Bay) passed to Aegon's kid, so now shit is about to go down.I keep wondering what will happen to her. She can't have kids anymore, she's completely screwed and that cliffhanger at the Dothraki sea is killing me.
Winds of Winter NEVER EVER :^)
>>342434381
are you gimped if you go full micro and dont even use planning?
seems like planning bonus is used to surmount the opposing entrenchment bonus
>>342434389
You can pick up from a number of points in the timeline, from Aegon's Conquest all the way down to Feast for Crows. I went Feast of Crows as Jon Snow, got immediately legitimized by Stannis, helped him win the North just in time for him to lose the war for the throne, and only escaped justice by defeating the Mountain in trial by combat.
It's basically an interactive fanfiction generator.
>Do really good in school
>Already reading at a college level in second grade
>Library thought I cheated on their tests and kept making retake them
>Score college level every time
>Get a free IQ test when they were diagnosing me for ADHD
>Something like 152IQ
>Hospital immediately moves to put me into a gifted school or at the very least get me to skip grades
>Elementary school says no and prevents it from happening stating that because I had ADHD I was mentally unprepared for any of that
>Go through school normally
>Bored out of my mind
>Grow to not give a shit about anything since I'm always so bored
And that's how I grew up to shitpost about GS on /v/. The system works!
>>342434609
>Elementary school says no and prevents it from happening stating that because I had ADHD I was mentally unprepared for any of that
>things that never happened
>>342434596
That sounds glorious. Fuck it, I'm getting that mod. I already have the game but never got into it.
>>342434609
Figured out I was smart in a similar fashion. Went the gifted program route. Still didn't give a shit about anything. C'est la vie.
>>342434609
>>342434850
You two are complete wastes of talent.
>>342434578
If the AI were actually competent the planning bonus might be worth something
As it is you can just focus on a single point in their line, breakthrough, make a massive encirclement while the AI does nothing to stop it, envelop and repeat
>>342434742
Both the school and the parents have to sign off on any grade skips. My parents couldn't afford the privet school the hospital wanted to put me in. We were in that weird tax bracket of "Makes just enough to not qualify for aid but not enough to pay for anything"." I couldn't get free lunch at school but my parents couldn't afford to make me lunch.
>>342434609
>Blaming others for your mistakes
>>342435089
Shit like this is probably why arguments for Basic Income seem to be making headway
>>342434970
I know I am. I refuse to work more than 20 hours a week because its just so fucking pointless. I can happily live off 9-11k a year. Whats the fucking point in getting a full time job or a high paying job when I wont use the money? I already have 20k in the bank as a safety net. More wont do anything for me and I dont ever fucking buy anything so I dont need it. I just want enough to cover my rent and bills and no more.
>>342435089
What fucking country do you live in?
>>342435334
I'm working like a nigger to save up and invest, and never again work a single day for someone else. I'm from a third world shithole so it's different I guess. If I achieve that, I'll end up working for myself.
>>342426818
The last few questions in this one made me feel retarded but I got 138.
I'm also a highschool dropout with no qualifications in anything so yeah, nice test.
>>342434970
talent implies they have latent ability
they're actually completely worthless losers
>>342435115
The mistake of being forced to sit through shit I mastered the second the teacher explained it? That was always the worst part. I got shit the first time it was explained. But the teachers always spend like a fucking week on each topic.
Then the teachers would get mad at me for reading in class. Then they would do something like write out a "difficult" equation on the white board and ask me to solve it since I was obviously not paying attention. Then they would get even more mad when I did solve it. I once got a 5 day in school suspension for reading a book in class even though I already learned what the teach taught. It was basic x+3=4-1 what does X equal? shit. I mean fuck anyone can solve that shit in their sleep.
>>342435521
The wonderful U.S. of A.
>>342435529
I thought about doing the investment stuff but I just cant be fucked enough to care. I also dont trust other people. Its to risky in my eyes to invest. I would rather use interest based shit even if the interest is low. At least then if the bank fucks up the government insures my money.
>>342435808
Jesus fucking christ.
>>342423493
Dude, its a game. And its not even chess.
Can you understand movies that are not about superheros? Than you can get into pretty much any game, except for the autistic ones.
>>342435963
It depends, there are some extremely safe options. Check out vanguard. I think you can get about 10% yearly ROI. I'm still learning though.
Interest in banks usually just makes up for inflation, so you don't actually get anything worthwhile.
This video explains it in a very retard proof way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgVg4hv10YM
I know what you feel though, I was also considering the shitty 3% return that banks usually provide, but some friends that know about finances told me about better alternatives (safe and higher %).
>>342435808
literally third world
>>342435701
> Tfw reading postgraduate-level fractal textbook (focused on the mathematics) in grade 11 Math class.
To be fair, I was fairly average in everything except CS/engineering, but, back then, I was ridiculously passionate about fractals, CS, and engi, and wound up learning stupid amounts of material that I didn't see until third year university.
The Math teacher would always yell at me for reading something else in his class and generally giving zero fucks, and 50/50 forgetting to do the busywork. Came into the final without studying and deathly ill, aced it with the highest mark in the class. The smugness was incredible.
Seriously, the pace highschools teach is mindnumbing. Uni was far more up my alley.
>>342436863
Uni is even fucking worse. All the busy work is gone but all that does is make me feel like they are wasting my fucking time. Why the fuck do most of these classes take a full semester? Most of them is just reading the text book and passing the mid term and final with maybe a few scattered homeworks that make up 0.5% of your grade. It just feels like a massive scam.
>>342426818
Got an IQ of 100.
Is there any way to increase your IQ? Or is it frozen when you become an adult?
>>342437653
It changes considerably throughout your life.
>>342423493
>>342423493
>>342423493
Are there any gs games that don't suck milky donkey balls?(I guarantee not)
>>342437653
It's frozen when you're an adult.
>>342438021
No it doesn't. Even childhood IQ correlates strongly with adult IQ.
>>342436670
>linking woodysgamertag
jk I like him.
>>342424040
hello jamal
>>342439636
I don't even know who he is actually, the video was useful to my financial illiterate mind.
>>342425891
http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2015/09/16/is-iq-a-predictor-of-success/#231093e65ddc
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Sternberg2/publication/228859220_The_predictive_value_of_IQ/links/09e4150d72ed6b102a000000.pdf
" IQ is a relatively good
predictor of many kinds of childhood and adult outcomes"
get fucked
nature > nurture
>>342433724
TIS looks like a pain in the ass.
Spacechem, however, tapped into parts of my brain that made me feel funny things in my pants.
>>342423493
Is this a WW2 game?
I never tried a Grand Strategy game and it looks interesting.
>>342423493
It needs to be a maximum of 85 if you want to enjoy HOI4. Europa Universalis gayms require at least a 90, the rest are more dependent on the severity of your autism than your intelligence.
>>342440108
>Children adopted out of an Iranian orphanage by the age of 2 had IQs that averaged 100 during later childhood; they were able to overcome the effects of early deprivation. Children adopted after the age of 2 showed normal intellectual development from that point but never overcame the effects of early deprivation; they remained mentally retarded.
So anyone unlucky enough to be born in a shitty place is almost always doomed to be retarded? No wonder shitholes are stuck, it's a cycle where they'll produce more retards until something or someone breaks that cycle.
>>342436692
Great. Now you told everyone that you don't know what third world means but you're willing to use it as an insult anyways. Congratulations.
>>342441050
Yes.
>>342440108
>>342441339
On one hand, the up-from-the-boostraps success story might be disproved as a myth if this is explored more
on the other hand, eugenics might make a comeback
what a brave new world we're in for
>>342441050
Yes but that one is pretty casualized pirate the games and the 58 dlcs yet too come.
Trust me no exactration on the amount of dlc go the ck2 steam page and look at how much dlc there is many of which is vital to actually having fun and depth to the game
