Can we have a thread about this game?
>can we have a thread about how i never grew up and this title was the pinnacle of my youthful search for a fantastic distraction from the creeping pains of existence
it was a good game and they don't make them like they used to
We can have a thread about how half the characters are useless, the thirst mechanic starts annoying and by midgame may as well not even exist, bosses are terrible "puzzle bosses" and the fishing is 0/10I have no idea why I finished this on PS2 and then platinum'd it on PS4, the second one is so much better holy shit
>>342421864
Wow, that's heavy man.
No because this is the superior ps2 launch title
Who else autistically grinded for tram oil to get gems to evolve your weapon a few times in the first dungeon
I think my first fap was to that cat girl with the slingshot
I've been playing this on PS4 lately. Trying to get the best weapons for all the characters. Xiao and Ungaga are impossible to level, and I still don't have Osmond yet. Any good tips from fellow fans?
>>342422321
My biggest tip is don't bother leveling Ungaga because he's literal garbage. My second tip is that Xiao and the other two ranged characters are the easiest to level in the whole game so you might actually be retarded. Assuming you are, damage high level enemies with Toan and then get the last hit with Xiao.
>>342421979
>Implying the dark genie isn't a GOAT boss fight
Sure, most of the others aren't great, but that final boss makes it worth it.
>>342422321
Xiao is easy to level but you'll need a lot of repair powder then you just circle strafe everything
Ungaga sucks though, I can't help you there
The game is good.
The first game capitalizes on the hardware a lot better than the second game.
>tfw trying to get back into the second game
>20 hours of cinematics, half of which are unskippable or take 10 minutes to skip because of poorly optimized hardware
>>342422531
Ruby and Osmond are incredibly easy, yeah, but upgrading Xiao's weapons is so incredibly slow. Everything she does can be done better by other characters. Super Steve is the only thing that even possibly redeems her.
>>342422779
It's only shitty for like the first hour, there are far less cutscenes after the initial exposition dump.
>>342421986
That game was great.
>>342422885
>Ruby and Osmond are incredibly easy, yeah
And functionally, leveling Xiao is no different. She's actually easier to level than Ruby because she has less time between attacks so she can dodge more. I don't really know what you mean by upgrading her weapons is slow, I haven't noticed her getting less XP proportional to the other characters. In fact all three ranged characters I literally leveled while going through tinder, I mostly just moved and attacked based on the sounds coming from my TV and glanced up at the screen once in a while.
>>342422893
Yeah, it gets a little better, but after a point you can't go more than 5 levels in a dungeon without exposition.
>hey guys, could you find our friend? She likes potato pie?
>OMG POTATO PIE? DAT REMINDS ME OF MY MOM! NEEDLESS FLASHBACK!
>hey Max, you ever go to the ocean before?
>nah, BUT MY MOM TOLD ME ABOUT IT! Needless flash #30!
>hey, I had a mom too, which is why I allied with mr. satan bunny
>WOWEEE REALLY? This reminds me of another flashback!
I'm like "yeah, okay, you like your future rebel mom. But please, tone it down". Or I guess I should say "Toan it down".
>>342423167
Sorry, not upgrading, building up I mean.
>>342423523
Again, haven't noticed it being that difficult if you look at what the next weapons need and only upgrade those stats. It's what I did with everyone.
>>342421979
Because DC1 has a better town building minigame by far and better plot than DC2
So, among the amorphous magical villains,who was a better villain? Fat genie, edgelord real genie, or Majora's Mask?
>>342423796
>Because DC1 has a better town building minigame by far
Excuse me what
Also they both have absolute garbage plots so I can't really argue and say DC2 is better.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/N4KAMKl.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>342421540
ittybittykittytitties with spats. what else do you need?
>>342423796
>absolutely no customization
>better town building
LOL, bait post.
>>342424158
In DC2 you just have a polygon limit and a bunch of generic houses; in 1 each person has a bunch of requirements which made it more of a challenge to 100% a world. The unique buildings also added a bunch of flavour.
>>342423796
Plot's neutral between the two for me.
Basically non-existant vrs Cliched WHATATWEEST.
I do have to agree with the town building being better in the first.
Spheda though, is actually kinda fun, once you get its nuances down. Which takes a good damn while, admittedly.
Lowering to two characters (Well, 4~ if we count the ridepod and all the monster medals) eliminates the redunancy of characters, and the need to swap solely to solve dungeon obstacles.
Similarly, not perminantly breaking the weapons is good.
Though, the picture/invention system is just weird, and pretty much requires a guide.
... Also Panther Bikini Monica.
>>342424351
Frankly, I found the towns in DC1 being more of a puzzel you found the pieces to as you delved the dungeon better than DC2s "Slap the bits in town, eventually that pile of shacks you threw around with no thought will turn into a magical giant-robot base!"
So much better than 2.
2 is like a laundry list of everything wrong with JRPG design.
>>342421986
>Rockstar will never buy Bungie back
>Rockstar will never give this a sequel
>Rockstar too busy shark card peddling
>when someone says Monica is better than Max
My only gripe was the weapon degradation. Fun game otherwise.
Having a sword that can only hit 30-45 times before it breaks and you fucking lose it is a pretty stupid mechanic.
Could never get into this series. It feels like a skinnerbox to me and the combat is barebones as fuck. Maybe if it controlled better.
Was this the game where you explored tunnels with the robot that ran out of fuel every 2 seconds? Or the one where a fat nigger genie steals your town and you have to rebuild it piece by piece?
Because i recall loving both those games and can't remember the title of either.
>>342424601
Sure sure, as opposed to follow these strict building instructions and eventually your town will turn into...
The only upside to DS1 was because of the rigidity, NPCs were able to walk outside, so it felt more alive. Impossible in DS2 because of the freedom you had(My crazy pyramid towns)
>>342424707
>undertale reaction image
And that's how you invalidate your opinion instantly.I have more fun with Monica's sword than Max's wrench but Max's gun is infinitely fucking superior to the shitty brassard.
>>342424897
nigger genie oneITS A MOUSE, A FUCKING MOUSE
>>342424920
I was more referring to their alternate modes too.
I'd rather listen to Steve the Slingshot than touch Monster Transformation.
>>342425013
>>342424897
Anyone know the game with the robot that runs out of fuel?
Don't understand the game's appeal.
It was grindy and tedious as well.
I got to to level after the forest/jungle one and gave up out of boredom.
>>342425090
Be slightly more specific. There is a robot in the sequel(the ridepod), and it can run out of fuel, you may be thinking of the exact same series.
>>342425084
Monster Transformation could have been cool but holy SHIT it's so weak it's not worth using.I max form'd every single badge. It NEVER gets better.
>>342425090
Oh shit never mind its the sequel, fuck yeah i loved these games. Are both on PS4 or just the first one?
>>342425198
Yeah i was. Woo!
Where is my DC 3, L5? Where the fuck is it?!
Every few years, they tease a new big project and I get my hopes up, and every time, my hopes are dashed. Why hasn't this happened yet? The first two were very successful, enough to warrant putting them on the PSN store, why did they never make a DC 3?
>>342425258
Because Layton and Yokai Watch made them lods of money. That's why.
>>342425246
Both are on PS4 with upscaled visuals and HUD and stuff. If I had a PS4 I'd buy them in a heartbeat again.
I wanted to finish this game but weapon breaking pisses me off.
>>342421986
I don't understand why /v/ loses it's shit over this game.
The graphics were terrible, the gameplay was shitty and boring.
Was there a story because I don't remember anything about this game other than it sucking dick.
>>342425347
Didn't even know they were on it, and now that i do it'll probably be the deciding factor in me finally buying the console.
>>342425347
They should make Vita ports too.
>>342425442
>first complaint is graphics
>you will never be able to pilot Paznos or the Sun Giant
>they'll forever be relegated to cutscene fodder
>>342425763
nice shitpost faggot
Been playing it for the first time a few weeks ago. It's great. Why the fuck there isn't games like these anymore?
&&also I usualy hate early '00 games&&
>>342425952
The devs got tapped to make Dragon Quest games(made 8 and 9). Then made layton, and their priorities shifted once it was a megahit.
I still hope every year there will be a third game.;_;
>>342421540
>Got this, Dark Cloud 2, Persona 3 FES, Nocturne, Both Raidous, Both DDS games, and the entire dot hack collection in one fell swoop on Ebay.
This Summer shall be glorious.
I had it, but didn't actually get far.
my memories on this game are making a comfy village with this in the background and that cat girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bdfqYVmNmM
>>342426127
Iktf bro
I hope in vain every e3
best PS2 JRPG coming through
fuck the plebs whose ADD won't let them cross-reference with script/menu translation guides. it's one of the most beautiful games I've ever played, the in-battle graphics are gorgeous
>>342422226
>not the genie
>>342426952
KUREA!
>white chronicles had all the potential in the world with its town building
>get some generic just throw shit anywhere georama
>>342426990
>having a fat fetish
The end credits legit make me tear up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJtsgn9Jp1k
>>342427079
Kurea, Kurea, KUREA, KUREA!!! ...baka mitai!
>>342426324
Can I buy dot hack from you when you're done
>>342427146
Shit, I bought both of those games because of fond Dark Cloud memories, and they were both pretty disappointing.Why can't we just have Dark Cloud 3 already?
>>342426324
>buying dot hack when it's getting remastered for the PS4 with online play
You're retarded.
>>342424324
>your out of combat skill is jumping over gaps that have small platforms in the middle
>later party member can fly over larger gaps as well as yours
>>342427194
Ruby was fat?
Convince me to finish DC. I got to themoonand got bored because it felt like 80% of the enemies in this dungeon and the previous one are 100x easier to beat with ranged characters.
>>342427780
You were talking about Ruby? Oooooh, that clears a few things up.
>>342424456
Fuck you, spheda should never have been created.
It's god fucking awful.
>>342427891
Ruby was top-tier fap material. Shame there's zero porn of her.
>>342428081
>he doesn't use Spheda to buy rename tickets and get ultimate weapons super early
>>342425952
It's a solid B rpg. The market barely supports B games anymore, it's AAA titanics or mobage cashgrabs.
>>342427883
This is probably intentional because one form of the final boss has to be dealt with at range, and I imagine most people eventually switch to playing entirely as Toan long before that point
Level up your ranged character of choice for t his dungeon, because how they do Georama in the last dungeon is different enough to play through and you've already made it this far
>>342425825
Thought you might want to know why you get 0 replies. :^)
>town building
>soundtrack
>dungeon system (with the secret parts)
>upgrade system
>boss fights
>art style
I wholeheartedly love this game
its worth a playthroughand 100 floor dungeon would've been THE shit if your weapon didn't fall to critical after every 5 monsters
>>342421540
I bought the game for PS4 and started playing it. Comfiest game i have played in a long time.
>>342428356
ma nigga
And yeah that 100 level dungeon is a fucking joke. It sucks because there's a lot of cool shit to see in there but it's such an obscene difficulty spike there's no way to make progress in there.
>>342428823
I cheesed it with Ruby. Makes it way easier. Shit sucks that the prize for finishing it is the Chronicle 2, and by the time you get it, it's completely pointless.
>>342428081
You can just admit you're terrible at golf.
There is no shame in that.admittedly, a LOT of the levels are designed solely to fuck over their spheda course. But occasionally you get lucky there anyway.
>>342429503
It's designed terribly.
The most obvious examples being that the number of shots you get is based on start-end distance, discounting impassable walls & turns in the way.
And the fact that you have to exit & reclear the level to get another shot.
If EITHER of those had been fixed, it would have been passable.
But as-is you can clear the level, fail, reclear the level and find you don't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating it this time due to RNG, and have to reclear it again for another shot.
It's fucking retarded.
>>342429934
You make a valid point. We should've been able to make infinite tries at it if we failed. There'd be no harm in it, since they designed the medal system to make you wanna collect them all.
Spheda was only fun in the valley and water cavern, I fucking hated it elsewhere.
>the water in underchannel and holes in Mount Gundor
Fuck
>>342429170
I never did finish the Demon Shaft, but can you not still continue playing after you beat it? There's nothing to progress on after that point, but absolutely destroying shit with a maxed out chronicle 2 could be kinda fun, yeah?
>>342421864
You must be fun at parties.
>>342421540
Sure. It was fantastic. Making the ideal towns was fun and the dungeon gameplay was interesting as well.
>>342422531
>he doesn't like BBC
But his weapon has such LENGTH
>>342431092
>I actually had more luck at Mount Gundor than almost anywhere else the most recent time I played
It was actually some shit. Cleared about 80% of the holes in one go.
>>342427756
They won't make cute noises when they do though.
>>342431324
Yeah, you can continue after playing +beating it.
>>342421540
I liked the town building but the dungeon crawling wore out its welcome a little less than halfway through the game. The combat felt like an incredibly stiff take on Zelda and all of the dungeons had bland designs. The hunger and thirst mechanics went from annoying to something you don't even need to pay attention to. And the story was almost nonexistent until the end. Also Ruby completely breaks the game. I can see where the charm comes from though. I just hope the second one is much more polished.
>>342433003
Its incredibly well done, as the second game is one where they actually learned from the first games mistakes.
>>342421540
these faggots can fuck right the fuck off
>>342433003
Depends on what you mean by polished.
On the one hand you've got this.
On the other, Max literally can't shut up about his fucking mom and the OST is atrocious.
>>342421540
>the fishing is 0/10
>>342434145
Aww, did the gobblers nibble all your sweetcakes?
You poor guy!
>>342433627
My real biggest complaint is how much time eventually gets sunk into switching characters. Those small delays add up.
Also STEVE is awesome and fun, but feels to OP to use, because of the way exp works.
is dark cloud 1 anything like dark cloud 2? i loved the fuck out of 2 but never played 1 before, will i like it?
>>342435654
It's less forgiving, like a proper dungeon crawler.
>>342435654
1 was focused on building the villages & simple dungeon-delving.
The village-building is simpler/better.
No stupid voice-acting, plot is less gag-inducing.
It is the comfiest fucking game ever.
https://youtu.be/Ow1o9PqnrH4
>>342433627
>the OST is atrocious
Nigga, what are you even talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWvVcF07DGA
>>342437238
my nigga, this place had the best ost that i'd jsut idle here just to listen to it
>>342421540
2nd game is better
>>342437238
https://youtu.be/GbZtcWW_16s
>>342437364
I'm doing that as we speak.I don't know why but it took me forever, trying to remember how to get the 60 culture points for the bomb
>>342437562
Don't lie, this shit is burned into your memory just because of how fuckin cheesy the song is
tfw as a kid I farmed all the medals to unlock monica's lewd outfit as fast as i can
>>342436586
Sample just because.
Atmospheric bits
https://youtu.be/wu_bGjziXV8
https://youtu.be/ayaMCw7fr_U
https://youtu.be/mqIRjlW895s
Different towns/dungeons
https://youtu.be/eBSoQ1aDH2I
https://youtu.be/wHVVnZuTXqo
https://youtu.be/kCVU_ZsalnY
Bosses
https://youtu.be/ZkCb2Ba7KiE
https://youtu.be/t1oHrWh8NKg
![[no damage].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Td7f07A.jpg "[no damage].jpg")
FUCK
Comfiest theme coming through
>>342440465
>no escape powder
>>342440892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vxp4FOo_uM
fug
>>342421540
wtf i've been playing this on ps4 since i never beat it as a kid
the best thing for me is the weapon upgrading....it seems like they got lazy with the town building after maybe the first 2 towns. and dungeon crawling sometimes has artificial lengthening such as the second dungeon where you needed the fucking seed that never drops.
the partners feel poinless besides to upgrade their shit or levels you need to use them.
>Toan<xiao<rose<indian guy<<<Goro
>>342421979
i'm excited to start the second one.
but do they still have town building?
>>342441563
Oh yes, In my opinion it's better in 2, because you're given pretty free range on how your towns look, even when getting 100% completion, as opposed to in 1 where you just build the town with the template you're given
>>342434145
it does fucking suck...i mean i do it to buy gems but it's boring as fuck and in queens you can't een see the fucking fish!
>>342441465
I think we can all agree, Goro is shit
>>342441563
Yes.
More items, more details, and you aren't stuck in blocks/90-degree angles.
But honestly I think that served DC1 well. Unless you're autistic, you're more likely to wind up with an ugly-shit town.
Keep in mind, you won't unlock it until midway through the second dungeon.
>>342442348
wrong image.
>>342442320
>fishing in queens
>>342442348
i know i felt i could be sort of creative in DC1 despite the request from villagers. queens was ugly af but i made it work..but by the sun and moon temple the village was lame i just threw it together with that lame ass totem gimmick. and now i'm on the room building a robot so i just want out haha
>>342441563
Oh and uh, good luck with the opening segment.
I had to force myself through theclowns. And Max's god-awful voice.
It's not easy.
>>342422779
People dont like the first one because it starts so slow and hard, and put hte second above the first because of this, but I just cant bring myself to like the look of the second one, it goes from Ghibli to Disney in appearance.
>>342441465
Honestly it always felt to me that the developers got better at making games as they went on. The writing got better, the town building more fresh, and even the graphics improve as you progress through the story. It makes it feel kind of disjointed in a lot of ways. All the shit about Toan's father in Muska Racka that just ends up going nowhere in particular. That whole town, really, could've been cut without any detrimental effect to the game overall. Even the boss fight for that area is lame. Really feels like they just wrote the story as they went. Anyways, it's late and I'm kinda rambling on without any purpose, I just really fucking love this game.
>>342442685
that's what the shrimp are for..but i only tried it once.
anyone know where the fish required for the ps4 trophy is?
>>342442954
those guys made fantasy life. combat is basically the same.
>>342440465
Her story was weird...she went evil because her man left her? and she threw her self in the ocean...but shes in the church...
>>342442958
Don't even bother with the fishing in Queens desu. Wait until you get to the next town, it's got probably the best fishing spot in the game. Just use poison apples as bait and sell the rest of it and if nothing bites just quit and come back. It's the easiest way to rack up a shitload of points.
>>342443425
poison apples? and here i am wasting them for fun like every other useless item
>>342442943
Shit, forgot one more thing: you might want to consider a guide, at least for the photo album. There are some hard-to-get missables really early in the game.
>>342443387
Don't marry crazy.Churches are where weddings happen
>>342443425
>not potato cakes
>settling for the faggy purple plebs
>>342443560
They can be used to catch the second best fish in the game at the oasis. The best you can catch with potato cakes like >>342443748 said, but the other fish in the pond might eat those, too, so you're better off just going with poison apples.
>>342443748
i h8 guides
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK6Ur1WGKzQ
