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there's a competitive mode coming out for this game in less than a week?

what the fuck.
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Fuck you mang
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>>342397079
You do know Hanzo fires arrows right?
The sticks with a blade on the end of them that don't fire straight for very long but at a arch.
You know that weapons right?
it's called lobbing a shot.
No bad hitbox there. Arrow just lobbed over the ledge you were hiding under.
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It's called gravity you idiot.
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>>342398136
I suppose this is what lobbing bullets look like then?
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>>342398136
>>342398285
Nice try, retards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UU8jqxAiHQ
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>>342398437
There are shockwaves coming from that gun.
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>>342398437
Bullet drop is hitting tip of his hand.
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>>342398437
Oh no, that there is bad.
But I can totally see OP's shot being possible in other games.
I have seen that shit happen before.
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>>342398691
Notice that the hit marker is red. It's only red when it's a headshot. White one are for regular hits.
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>>342398437
was about to say that looks like shitty console autoaim until I saw it was on PC. What the fuck is this shit.
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>>342398136
that's not what is happening, look at where widowmaker is standing, he is shooting a few inches to the left of her head and it counts as a headshot.
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>/v/ still can't deal with the fact this game will become competitive
The asshurt is palpable, I love it.
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>>342399037
And that's not even exclusive to Overwatch, though.
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>>342399101
Just like Heroes of the Storm and WoW arena, right? No one actually takes this game seriously, just as no one took those games seriously, no matter how hard Blizzard tried to force it.
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>People still don't understand the concept of projectiles using different enemy hitboxes than hitscan

Even quake III area did this, with cylinders. This is nothing new, projectiles would have to be much more powerful if they used the hitscan hitboxes
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despite this Hanzo is not even as overpowered as Widow in high level play
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>>342399270
The maps in tf2 are pretty big it's be almost impossible to hit a scout if it were true to size
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>>342399554
Almost everything in the game is a projectile though
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>>342399657
>Making excuses for the Huntsman
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>>342398136
The arrow's arc doesn't reach head level until it's past that building though
You do understand physics right?
You can see right?
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>>342399885
>that image
why
I didn't expect to see him here
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the hitboxes are the right size, the problem is blizzard didn't put a fucking line of sight check on non-aoe projectile collisions

so a system that is designed to keep projectiles competitive with hitscan weapons ends up giving people headshots around corners
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>>342400012
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>>342399270
but tf2 doesn't allow that shitty bow in competitive. In overwatch you can't just exclude a hero.
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Th hitboxes are fine, difficult to hit even, webm related.
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>>342400136
the hitboxes are a prob with every hero lol just excluse this whole shitty game 2bh
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>>342397079
Don't forget how you can shoot the wall an enemy ducks behind to kill them.
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>>342400136
tf2 doesn't allow that shitty bow in competitive because it's a hunk of absolute crap compared to the base gun.

people forget that comp tf2 bans stuff for being really bad as much as it bans stuff for being good.
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>>342398136
this is some next level blizzcucking
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>>342397079
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajectory
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>>342400265
>>342400341
Spotted the valve drones.

This thread reeks of tf2 salt.
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>>342398136
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So.

Who is next on the nerf chopping block?

Hanzo and Torb. Fucking please those two shitters
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>>342399270
No show me how it hits someone around the corner.
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and again, it's not the hitboxes that are the problem it's a lack of an los check on non-aoe projectile collisions
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>>342400710
>Torb

Uh, no please. He's already shit enough as it is I don't want my favorite character to be thrown into the garbage.
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>>342400710
>Want Torb nerfs
This is the kind of thing you don't want people knowing you want
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>>342400247
this.
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>>342400710
genji and pharah most likely
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>>342400710
>Torb.
>not switching to dva or widow or pharah

git gud.
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>>342400247
Problem is that your post isn't a shitpost.
People only pay attention to shitposts.
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>>342399270
>one weapon vs every weapon int he game
>doesn't kill through walls and corners because non-shit servers
>sniper also doesn't have wallhacks in his skill set to aid him in getting bulshit kills
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>>342400247
>miss every single shot
>the hitboxeare fine! i'm not just shit!
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>>342401229
>>342400742
>>342400341
>>342400265
>TF2 Defense Force Assemble!
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>>342398136
>>342397079
I don't think he's hiding behind the ledge. I think the arrow is curving to the right, and OP's character is behind the raised roof infront of him.

If so, that puts it in similar levels of bullshit territory as
>>342398437
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>defend shitty servers and getting shot from behind walls as a "design choice"
>Hero balance ranges from F-- to A++ tier; heroes take months to get balanced
>defend lack of FoV slider because they want every player to have the same experience for fairness
>backpedal later on this decision, but set max FOV to only 103
>big head mode hitboxes
>game has the depth of a MOBA with the economy, experience, and character customization stripped out

Blizzard is gonna have to dump a lot of money into prize pools if they think people are gonna play this shit competitively.
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I don't understand how people can stand to look at Overwatch for long periods of time. The game is the definition of "gaudy".
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>>342401598
Try playing it and you will know.
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iktf
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>>342401651
How will playing it change the fact that it looks like shit? Are Overwatch players genuinely this retarded?
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oh, i get it now, everyone is just shit posting instead of paying any attention to reality
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>these are the """people""" calling for torb nerfs
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>>342401229
Huntsman, Hanzo bow, Mercy pistol, D.va pistol, Zenyatta orbs, they all shoot projectiles, so of course they would have different hitboxes when everything else is hitscan.
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>>342401810
>console aiming
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>>342401721
Neither looks nor plays like shit.
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>>342401451
>give multiple reasons why the webm is still better than overwatch
>"shit i have no retort, better post smug images"

Enjoy being shot and hooked through walls and your insta-kill ults in "competitive" play
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>>342401803
Overshill pls go
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>>342401810
laugh my fucking ass off at playing an fps on a console
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>>342398136
>Trying this hard
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>>342401704
I thought Overwatch used dedicated servers...?
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>>342401810
lol what the fuck!
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>>342401932
And yet it is better and more relevant than TF2
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>>342401925
Really? The ugly, bland maps? The ugly, bland characters? The overuse of bright colors? The extremely ugly UI? The art style, which doesn't even TRY to be consistent?

None of these look bad?
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Is Winston an allegory to a blackman's inner struggle of living with their inner animal/savagery?

On the outside Winston is characterized by being this genius ape capable of outsmarting his opponents but not smart enough to stay away from a fight.

The weapon he devices is elegant, very powerful, and uses technology far more advance than his foes yet takes no wit or smart to use or even aim.

A monkey could use it.

Now we move onto his ULT which is essentially rage mode, instead of resolving his issues with a smart and sophisticated weapon he resorts to blind rage.

The rage overcomes him and he becomes the beast he once sought to tame. I think this is perfectly exemplifies the inner struggle of black men and women

who try to overcome their savagery but ultimately fall back to their savage way. A gorilla will always be a gorilla just like a nog will always be a nog.
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>>342400554
Clearly the work of shockwaves
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>>342401810
>polygon staff plays overwatch
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>>342402023
With shit connection and tick rate
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>>342402093
>The ugly, bland maps? The ugly, bland characters?
wat
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>>342400710
>having trouble with torb

console detected
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>>342402093
>None of these look bad?

no. its just not your style.
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>>342402094
>I keep trying to act white, y'all keep bringing the NIGGUH out of me
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>>342402171
Do you not understand the English language?

>>342402254
So there literally does not exist the concept of "Bad", just "Different".
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>>342402092
It's shittier in every aspect than a 2007 game. The fact that it even has to be compared to TF2 and called the TF2-killer to get attention should speak for itself.
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>>342402092

>more relevant than a 9 year-old game
>this is what Blizzfags consider victory

You know who's gonna be playing Overwatch in 9 years? Fucking nobody.
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>>342402094
no.
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>>342397079
It's like he knows you are standing there.
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>>342402092
In literally what way? Being more relevant is not an issue — any modern game that is marketed enough is, how is it better?
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>>342401810
>These are the ""people"" saying playing trombone is hard
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>>342400710
Torb is great, you can get free ult charge from his turret if you shoot slower than him healing it.
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>>342402330
>Do you not understand the English language?
I do, I was stumped that someone would call these maps and characters bland. ESPECIALLY the maps, which are not-two-alike. Everything from London setting through Mexico to a temple in the Himalayas, fuck, what more do you want as to qualify as not-bland? Shit's great, your taste is either very weird (if so, elaborate what game has no bland levels, in your eyes), or you are shitposting.
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>>342402330
>So there literally does not exist the concept of "Bad", just "Different".
for the most part, yes. People hated surrealism at first but later generations "got it".

overwatch looks pleasing to most people so it may just be that its not your style. If I asked you what style you thought looked better it would present more people saying how it looks bad. art is mostly opinions, and a reflection of the artist.
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Oh noes, a competitive mode that means absolutely nothing is coming out for a semi-casual shooter?
Write your Congressman.
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>>342402347
>tf2 started development 18 years ago
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>>342401229
Here we go...
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>>342402426
well who wouldn't be hard with that view?
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>>342400554
to be fair, that was just barely outside the arrow's physical model. and if the arrows physical model was the size of its hitbox accurately, it'd be damn hard to hit with it
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>>342400947
lol wut.
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>>342399270
>Projectiles come from the right in TF2
>Positions target to right of crosshair
>Thinks this is a good comparison

wew lad
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>>342402627
>semi-casual
>semi
nice try blizzdrone
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>>342402023
Dude i had one lobby which every match all characters was moving in T pose and would sink in the ground when running. Good times.
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>>342402819
He shoots him from the right, left, below and above, valvedrone.
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>>342402426
>actually thinking torb isnt trash

bet you think bastion is OP too
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>>342400947
>Pharah
>Nerf

Will she become the new Pyro?
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>>342400554
That hits the shoulder, which is the edge of the head hitbox.

You'd insta-die just as easily from an arrow in your neck as you would in the skull.
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>>342399270
something something hitboxes
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>>342402426
>This will never be a PotG
>Instead you'll have to watch Hanzos shooting their ults at walls for the rest of your life.
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>>342402819
>i didn't watch the webm

tf2 kids with ADD anno 2016
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>>342403084
top strategy
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>>342397079
>competitive mode

I think you mean coin flipping simulator
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>>342402347
TF2fags two months ago
>OW will never surpass TF2, it has no staying power
TF2fags now
>so what? you're more popular than a 9 year old game
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>>342402169
>>342402023
person aiming is hitting the railing, its visually lower so you can see the enemy but it provides tactical advantage to the guy who took the time to go above
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>>342402879
Whatever. Casual, if you like. I played this game for a week and got sick of it; only one of my friends still plays it regularly.

The point is, who cares if they come out with a competitive mode? Don't like? Don't want to play it? Don't play it.
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>>342403087
POTGs are okay, you bastard
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Will you guys stop shitting on a game because of one or two heroes when the game has 21 in total?

The game takes skill you twats. Go watch A_Seagull's VODs and see how much REAL skill the game takes.

How about you pick up Genji for a change and see how high the skill ceiling goes. Fucking valve drones are trifling.
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>>342402571
You are touting various flavors of shit as something that isn't shit.

Everything is extravagant, but it's (a) too much (b) not consistent (c) not done well.

Let's take a game with a consistent art/graphical style — Braid. It isn't a technical masterpiece, but there is a very distinct stylistic thread between its levels. Overwatch does not.

>>342402593
>for the most part, yes. People hated surrealism at first but later generations "got it".

I'm not an art buff but even I know you 100% don't know what you are talking about.

>overwatch looks pleasing to most people so it may just be that its not your style. If I asked you what style you thought looked better it would present more people saying how it looks bad. art is mostly opinions, and a reflection of the artist.

No, it doesn't. I don't see people going apeshit over the art style like they did for other games, because there's nothing positive to say.

>art is mostly opinions, and a reflection of the artist.

The latter is correct, but a completely useless thing to say and the former leads to the death of standards. If standards did not exist, neither would good art.
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>>342403084
>using voice line animations to block headshots

holy shit, next level
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>>342403326
>j-just ignore terrible things in vidya
Yeah it worked so well with the SJW invasion, right?
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>>342397079
no amount of spergy gifs change the fact that the game is

FUN
U
N
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>>342398136
imagine being this fucking deluded
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>>342403286
OWfags two months ago
>TF2 is gonna be dead the day Overwatch releases. Watch the player count drop to 30k per day tops
OWfags now
>Overwatch has more players than TF2 at any given time! TF2 is dead and finished!
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>>342403379
No, it doesn't.
Yes, it does. It is a fun, cartoony art style that fits the game well.
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>>342403348
Isn't A_Seagull that Genji player who has a Mercy pocketing him 24/7?

It's like going Soldier in TF2 and having a Medic on your cock at all times, except that Medic can fly to you when you jump around.
Medic actually has a weapon that lets you do that but it's mediocre because no overheals)
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>>342401704
>what is railing
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>>342403532
Holy shit, you've really got a bug up your ass about this. Like this cartoony little FPS having a competitive mode for fucking hypernerds to obsess over will throw the entire gaming industry into complete ruin.
Go outside once in a while.
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>>342403084
Holy shit, I didn't know you could do that.
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>>342400710
Winston
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>>342403379
>I'm not an art buff
then shut the fuck up.

don't talk about shit you don't know.

>If standards did not exist, neither would good art.
this makes me more angry than it should. the sheer ignorance of this statement is appalling.

had you said "lazy art" you would have been more convincing. but bad art is an opinion. fucking stick figures is lazy but in the hands of a good artist stick figures can be beautiful.

and I've wasted more time than I should on you.
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>>342403771
Something that he clearly doesn't hit.
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>>342400710
>Torb
Console player detected
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>>342401704
>didn't read the patch notes
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>>342403084
it wasn't a full charged shot
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>>342402802
genji can delete every 200hp hero with mercy amp instantly with rmb+melee+dash combo

pharah is ok on her own but with a pocket mercy she shits 156dmg nukes deleting everyone but tanks in 2 hits

people are currently crying about zarya but thats an actual player issue, the moment ranked comes out and you get into teams with people who dont give her charge for free she will be fine

hanzo scatter is pretty broken aswell if rng decides you get to instagib a tank

most people dont understand just how strong a well played genji is because 9 times out of 10 its some naruto autist playing him
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>>342404051
did the patch notes give widowmaker ass armor or something
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>>342404060
>implying
Base headshot damage with 0% charge is 150. the shot was blocked.
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Anyone got the csgo webm of the thrown deagle blocking an AWP play?
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>>342401447
Are you actually a fucking retard?
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>>342400710
Reaper and Mei.
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>>342404115
shitter won't notice whatever you do as a flanker. I've gotten double kills on enemy as tracer but rest of my team won't push because they have a reinhardt holding a shield. it's a joke
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>>342404060
uncharged body shots do 50. full charged does 150. headshots do tripple damage.

the dude blocked a snap headshot with an emote
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>>342398691
>bullet drop at like 2 feet
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>>342401810
Tobs secondary is actually way too hard.
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competitive is looking good
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>>342399270
>it's a "shitposting about TF2 hitboxes without knowing how to make them visible through console commands" episode

Every fucking time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGcNzFd3as

Nobody likes how the huntsman works because it easily one-shots people without any precision required. The huntsman is the only weapon in TF2 that has this level of bullshit, while in Overwatch this is standard on both hitscan and projectile weapons.
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if you protect Dva she can take out torbs turrets easily. their shots don't hurt her mech that much. just use shield on approach.
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>>342402347
>9 years

Oh please, no one is going to be playing that game in 1 year let alone NINE.
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>>342404156
it lowered her body shot damage, bodyshots are shit now
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>>342400817
>>342400913
>>342401045
>>342402212
>>342403969
>His primary doing that much damage
>His auto-aim, snap on target turret with that kind of range
>A-Okay
You fags probably defended McCree's fan too.
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>>342404413
got u famalam
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The hitboxes are large so that projectiles remain viable vs hitscan. Not exacltly rocket science.
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>>342404753
>while in Overwatch this is standard on both hitscan and projectile weapons

False. Unless you think that Mercy's pistol is hitscan
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>>342402347
One of the big reasons why TF2 was still played for that long is because of community servers. Something Blizzard will never ever allow.
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>>342404918
>that kind of range
yeah that is bullshit but thats why you work as a team to get around that shit.
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>>342404694
Holy fuck is that real?
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>>342404753
how making it visible suddenly make that huge ass box a good sized hitbox? Its still shit.
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"Hey guys, this game is meant to be played with characters zipping around at high speeds."

"Let's critique the hitboxes when characters are standing perfectly still, something that will never actually happen."
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>>342404753
>Literal Box Hitbox
>It doesn't even rotate and is glued to the map's orientation

And people have the fucking gall to shit talk Overwatch's hitboxes. Way to kill your own arguement.
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>>342404967
Yea, I can see the merit of that, but it still shouldn't hit things around a corner.
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>>342403672
I watched him play today in a duo queue with ster.

He was playing Hanzo and hitting shots pretty accurately.

I think the only times he's pocketed is when he plays with someone named Shayed because that's the only character he/she can play to actually be useful to the team.
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>>342404115
It's kind of cheating when your explanation for "X character is gonna get nerfed," involves phrases like:

>...when paired with a good team.
>...with the help of a good [character y] they're unstoppable.
>...with good teammates...
>...against shitty opponents...
>etc.

That being said, for Genji, I can see his dash being nerfed so that it doesn't fully restore upon kills.

With Pharah, I think you're completely off point. She has so many hard counters it's ridiculous. Furthermore, her hardest counter (widowmaker) is already core on most defensive teams.
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>>342405358
Bad projectile hit detection on a 9 year old game that was never designed around needing positional based damage (headshots) on its projectiles.

What's (You)r game's excuse.
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>>342401810
>"god just kill him-"
>finally notice it's on console
ah nothing new here
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>>342404942
>this
>that dunkey video where he empties his gun and tosses it at a ct so he has to auto-switch to it, and offs him with a pistol while he's stuck trying to reload/switch
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>>342403032

So because it's not a headshot, that makes it all good? The game has a low tickrate and huge hitboxes. It's a casual game first and foremost at this point.
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>>342397079
Christ, that's on the level of MechWarrior Online's bullshit

>Shoot about 10 feet out from building used as cover
>All rounds hit 10 foot invisible hitbox of building
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>>342405763
>B-but TF2 is 9 years old guys! What's your excuse!?

wew laddie.

i fail to see how that makes TF2 better in anyway.
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>>342397079
Hanzo fires telephone poles from his bow.
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>>342405763
Oh yeah, keep moving those goal posts.

TF2's hitbox are garbage, as well as Overwatch's. So you can turn off your defense mode because you just disproved your own point.
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>>342398136
There's a 'play of the game' that literally involves Hanzo shooting an arrow through a wall and hitting a junkrat that reached full cover.

The fact that single shot was a 'play of the game' suggest that Blizzard is aware of issue and might be intended.
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>>342400247
This is what 20 Ping + enemies with high ping does to the gameplay. It drives me insane. I don't want to play on 20 HZ Servers with people who have a ping higher than 50.
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>>342404918
>His auto-aim, snap on target turret with that kind of range

Yeah and that turret does whooping 50 dmg/s
Just to compare Bastion does 500.
If his primary was also shit he would be trash-tier instantly
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>>342401810
ive played on console, aiming is not that hard these people just suck ass. Although the aiming on console is not nearly as accurate as PCuck
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>>342406946
Just give it up, casuals will never learn.
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>>342405983
>>342406328

Part of the reason among a sea of reasons of why people quit tf2 is that this bullshit never got fixed or remaimed terrible like pyro flame hitboxes.

Somehow despite this being a major flaw in the game blizzard decided to make this worse then add on 20 hrz to make it shit hitboxes x2. Only now its pretty much every weapon that doesnt just automatically aim for you. Which only makes it laughable when fan s of OW try to act like anyones defending these shit asects of tf2.

Its like blizzard decided to take every shit aspect of tf2 and make it worse. In other games its a one time occurance but in ow its pretty much everything.
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>>342405593
>her hardest counter (widowmaker)
I kinda started playing, but isn't it the other way around?
I usually throw a couple rockets down Widows way to throw them off their perch for a few seconds, enough for me to jump/fly over them in order to flank them properly. It usually works even if they're focusing on me.
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>>342405358
>>342406328
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>>342403348
>Entire team still runs away anyway
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>>342400710
its gunna be zarya
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>>342407990
Because the giant icon for it still shows up and is horribly inaccurate.
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>>342400710
hopefully no one because no one seems game breakingly broken
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>>342404918
>having problems with one of the worst characters in the game

i want casuals to leave.
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>>342408258
>Thinking you know what's bad and what isn't

i want shitters to leave.
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>>342404753
>>342405358
>>342407916
this is pretty cool
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>>342405181
>>342405358
No, these are TF2's hitboxes. If you listened to the video for even 10 seconds, you would have known the collision box is specifically for projectiles. Additionally, most weapons in TF2 cannot get headshots. This means, while it's easier to hit enemies with projectile weapons than should be possible, they don't get a massive boost in damage for hitting within 2 feet of their head. Overwatch straight up has a huge head hitbox that extends past the actual model, and that impacts every weapon in the game, reaching Huntsman level of absurdity when using projectile weapon.

>>342406328
Wrong, my point is if somebody's going to talk shit about a game, they should at least know what they're talking about. "Oh, it's okay that Overwatch has awful hitboxes because here's my shitty .webm using one of the most hated TF2 weapons without enabling console commands."
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>>342404918
switch off genji retard, character switching is an important part of the game
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DELETE THIS WHOLE THREAD

I CANT STAND YOU FUCKS SHITTING ON A MASTERPIECE

I BET YOU ALL PLAY BATTLEBORN
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>tfw new """Quake""" will also be a shitty first person moba
Did Blizzard usher in a new era of horrid multiplayer shooters?
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>>342397079
Please remind me: If everyone shares the same hitboxes, why is it a problem exactly?
Right.
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>People defending this

>People pulling shit out of their ass to defend this

>People actually saying to themselves, "This makes sense. It's okay."

>People ACTUALLY DEFENDING THIS


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>342408642
Don't worry bro, the numbers are on our side.

11 MILLION STRONG AND GROWING!
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>>342405593
its not cheating since its a teamplay oriented game and some characters benefit each other alot more than others

watch the latest gosugamers tournament, the meta shifted away from the widow spam post nerf unless the widow is really good

pharah and s76 are very popular now that mcree and widow was nerfed

the nerf to both of those characters indirectly buffed pharah/tracer/zenyatta/s76
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>>342408927
Not everyone's weapons share the same magnetism.
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>>342408927
Because it's misleading to the consumer. It is a blatant overlook of how a game should work, both aesthetically and mechanically.

Blizzard dropped the ball on this one, and there is no excuse. The people who are comparing it to TF2 are idiots. Of course tf2 has shit hit detection by today's standards, it's nearly 10 years old. The fact that it has better hit detection than overwatch still is laughable.
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>Overwatch is the most casual piece of shit in ages and /v/ slurps the neo Blizzard cock and takes it with no lube.
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>>342397079
player hitbox vs hitscan: basically at model
player hitbox vs ANY projectile: big as fuck

"justification": hitscan is hard
truth:
>no one will play hitscan because our massive playerbase is full of plebs who dont' know what an fps is. we wouldn't know how to balance projectile speed or damage without this huge hit reg for them, anyway.
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>>342404915
that webm is from before the widow nerf its been posted a lot
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>>342407837
>>342408782
>pyro flame hitboxes

Flamethrowers should just be hitscan and have afterburn based on duration. None of this velocity-inheriting bullshit based on the Pyro's movement speed.


>>342408927
Because it's retarded to get shot behind walls.
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>>342407837
>Which only makes it laughable when fan s of OW try to act like anyones defending these shit asects of tf2.

But they are. And that's what I'm pointing out.
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>>342408452
>you would have known the collision box is specifically for projectiles

Yes. Projectiles. In a shooter.
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>>342409110
TF2 doesn't have "better" hit detection you retard, Blizzard made the hitboxes like this on purpose it's part of the design, it's adapted to their game just like the hitboxes in CS are adapted to the game that is much more about aiming and precision than Overwatch.
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>>342409225
>flames should be hitscan instead of working like flames and having cool physics
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>>342408871
As long as they don't have ridiculous shit like Overwatch's ultimates I'm fine with it, also stuns and shit. Those pretty much completely ruin the point of an fps. It takes out all the movement, aiming, and positioning because someone just forces you to sit still while he shoots you in the head. I'm really hoping with Quake they try to place more of the focus on the gun play with the abilities just there to add a little something.
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>>342409093
Then if that's a big deal to you just switch to the hero with higher magnetism on his weapon?
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>>342409249
They are because whenever someone criticizes Ovrwatch, someone pulls out the TF2 Huntsman webm because Overwatch being "muh TF2 killer" although TF2 and all of Valve's gem titles will probably live on for another decade.
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Can someone post that torb potg where he's dead and his turret kills everything?
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>>342405580
shayed is also his girlfriend
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>>342397079
>expecting quality in a blizzard game on 2016
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>>342409601
I don't care if they're doing it because they're triggered.

It's retarded either way, and there is no defending it.

Also the poster with the webm never uttered the words "TF2 killer" or anything of the sort. I suppose you're getting angry at a post that doesn't exist.
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>>342397079
>ripped straight from reddit
lmao.
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>>342409806
Overwatch has been called the TF2 killer on /v/ since its character demonstration videos. That is why it's always compared to TF2.

Critical thinking, anon.
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>>342409975
But anon, that poster never said anything about it. You're refuting an ethereal poster.

Stop figuratively yelling at clouds.
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>>342409932
>Goes on reddit.

Get him out of here folks.
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>>342409443
I can't tell if this is real. I sincerely hope this is a joke. But considering the retarded Overwatch fanbase, I'm not too sure.
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>>342410116
Are you retarded? The reason why Overwatch is compared to TF2 is because of it being labeled "muh TF2 killer." That's why I said it.
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>>342409371
pass me a clip bro

>>342409445
True, but not when they can't make it work.

>get touched by a single cube of flame on the collision box
>take 60 damage

>flames don't inherit 100% of forward movement speed
>Pyro can't hit certain classes while they're walking backwards

If they can't get the cool physics thing working, they can do the cool hitscan thing where the flamethrower has a fixed length.
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>>342400817
Torb is your favourite? What a faggot
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>>342409932
>Knowing it's from Reddit.
lmao.
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>>342397079
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>>342410279
Nigger, I am very well aware that shitters on /v/ post "muh TF2 killer".

However, the original Webm poster didn't even fucking hint at that in anyway.

So, again, you are getting angry at someone who has not said or implied those words. So, are (You) retarded?
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>>342408375
>Casual who can't even handle one of the worst characters in charge of knowing what's balanced and not

Kill yourself you filthy casual
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>>342397079
Requested a refund 10 minutes ago. I don't think the game is ever going to improve and I don't think Blizzard has any plans to actually even try to improve this fucking piece of garbage.
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>>342410479
First off, I'm not angry at the webm.

I'm saying the reason the webm was posted at all to begin with is due to people comparing OW to TF2 for the reason I've already said. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to get it. If Overwatch wasn't being shilled as the TF2 killer on /v/, nobody would even be comparing it.
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>>342410472
>literally goes through the wall
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>>342410316
>flames don't inherit movement speed
That's to make w+m1 less viable
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>>342404967
>projectile motion
>not rocket science
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