Will this be PS4's first good JRPG?
>>342391949
Definitely not Star Ocean is trash.
its confirmed doodoo and getting ported to PC because bomba in japan
>>342391949
Can someone tell me if you actual control the characters when they you attack stuff? I've looked up a lot of the gameplay and I can't tell if they just auto attack enemies or if you actual control them
>>342392223
they/you attack stuff*
>>342391949
Will be my second PS4 game after Bloodborne, but after reading it looks like the game is mediocre jrpg
>>342391949
>Star Ocean post 2.
>good
Nah.
But omega quintet has already been out for almost 2 years?
>>342392624
>compile fart
lol
>>342392223
Ever played a Tales game? Its like that. You actually control one character and the rest are AI (but you can pause and swap/give commands).
>>342392413
>tfw the remakes of SO1 and 2 confirm that they are just a videogame, too.
>>342392379
Reviewers don't tell me enough. Keep saying its 20 hours long. Is it like the other Star Ocean games where rushing through the main story is 20 hours but getting the extra shit makes the game 60 hours? None of them mention this.
No this was.....also from the demo grand kingdom looks pretty good.
>>342393090
I agree, Disgaea 5 is good.
>>342393090
That demo is AWESOME, if slightly overwhelming. Sweet baby jesus there's some much shit to keep track of.
Star Ocean 5 is only slightly better than 4.
Also >>342392206 . You can expect a PC port of any SE RPG that isn't Kingdom Hearts or Dragon Quest.
>>342391949
Bloodborne came out over a year ago.
>>342392624
Game is pretty mediocre but that battle system is actually good.
>>342391949
>solo su Playstation
>*anche su PC
top kek
>>342392624
>Compile shit
Not even once
>>342392791
Maybe it was a little over your head.
You should probably stick to something simple like overwatch or fallout 4 :^)
PS4 already has plenty of good JRPGs.
>>342391949
>JRPG
>real-time combat
Star Ocean is a WRPG
>>342392848
Never played a tales game but that sounds cool thanks
>>342391949
Confirmed a borderline terrible and unfinished mess. So no.
>>342393090
>nignog itchy srpg
>good
laffin
>>342392965
Wondering that as well but I know there's an extra dungeon at the end of the game that is supposedly better than everything up to it
What is wrong with Disgaea 5, Atelier Sophie or Digimon Cyber Sleuth?
>>342393832
It's not even better than 4.
It's also even further removed from TtEoT than 4 was, with a fraction of the content and repetition with padding.
>>342394375
Nothing they all are great games but /v/ is full of garbage casuals that play WRPG thrash.
>>342391949
>Solu su PlayStation
DELETE THIS
>>342394485
>jrpgs
>not casual
>>342394550
Atelier, Digimon and most JRPGs have turn-based combat and long dialogues which casuals hate.
>>342393832
>PC port
great, hopefully we can restore the pantsu
>>342393943
>>342394493
Try staying on topic for once in your miserable lives
>>342395009
Present an interesting topic and not some shitty bait and we'll see.
PC is not even official confirmed and even it was/is we're looking at minimum of a year until then
No thanks, I'll go with ps4
I've played through the Japanese version.
No, it won't.
>>342394982
You're missing an inch of pantsu as it stands. There's a lot more to worry about with SO5 as far as flaws go.
>>342395376
Do yourself a favor and wait until the game is half the current price.
>>342394724
>turn-based whack-a-mole
>not casual
>>342392928
How so ? Haven't played the remakes, just the originals.
>>342393832
>that isn't Kingdom Hearts
SE likes PC now and KH3 is on UE4, I wouldn't hold your tongue. Would buy it twice though.
>>342391949
>Censored Ocean
>>342397152
>muh anime tits
>>342397152
>>342397538
Both of you kill yourselves. It's not censored
>>342391949
I haven't heard that many good things about SO5 so probably not
>>342397758
>VC Remastered
>Cutscene Overkill
Either this moron never played thr original or has ADHD that doesn't have the patience to sit through the cutscenes.
>>342397941
It's a good game, held back by some obvious budget issues. Just get it at the right price and you won't be disappoint.
>>342394190
Stop falling for the meme
>>342391949
>good PS4* JRPG
*also on PC
Why exactly does SO5 get such a bad rep?
I've never played a game in the series and I've been casually looking forward to getting this because I love JRPGs. What's so wrong with this game? Is it really that short? Is that all?
>>342392965
Yes
>>342398594
I'm interested as well. Everything I've been reading is just that it's short or people angry that it's only on one planet.
There are plenty of good JRPGs on the system
>>342398951
m8, 3/4rd of these are PC games. The only exclusive is Digimon, the rest is either already on steam or coming soon.
>>342399271
>3/4rd of these are PC games
Actually I'm pretty sure most of those are PS4 games that got ported to PC, considering PS4 is usually the lead platform and gets those games before PC does.
>>342399271
Nothing you said refute his claim.
>>342394982
I'd rather a mod to see the loli pantsu. Can't do that on PS4, probably due to fear for westerners again.
>>342391949
>PS4
it's also coming out on PC LMFAO
>No Atelier Sophie
this fucking board seriously
I wanna fuck the lady in the checkerboard outfit.
>>342400271
That's a vita game.
>>342400271
What's the appeal of these games? I've been wanting to get into them for a while now but I'm so used to story and combat in my JRPGs that I'm afraid that games centered almost entirely on crafting things will bore me to death.
If I were to try a game out to see if I like it, which one should I play?
>>342400181
Really? That's neat. when?
>>342400347
>That doesnt count as a PS4 game, Theres an inferior version on Vita
>>342399271
>That doesnt count as a PS4 game theres a superior version on PC
make up your minds fagets
>>342400640
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-considering-star-ocean-5-pc-port
>>342400843
>They port it cause the Console version doesnt sell enough
>PC version sells even less
>>342400496
>What's the appeal of these games?
They are more laid back JRPGs. The story line isn't as epic as it is in other games where you kill god, it's mostly about character interactions and their backstories and they usually have a nice artstyle and nice music.
>I've been wanting to get into them for a while now but I'm so used to story and combat in my JRPGs that I'm afraid that games centered almost entirely on crafting
There's combat in those games. The postgame bosses can be ridiculous at times and since you craft everything from weapons, armor, potions, bombs to trinket it's up to you how to beat them.
>If I were to try a game out to see if I like it, which one should I play?
Sophie is probably the most entry level atelier game to date. There is no time limit, it has 3 different difficulty settings that range from piss easy to brutal, crafting has now a minigame in it and loses some depth over older entries in the series and you unlock new crafting recipies one by one instead of buying books that give you like 10 of them instantly.
Star Ocean 5 is a PS3 and PS4 multiplatform game. SquareEnix also said they're going to port it on the PC
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-considering-star-ocean-5-pc-port
Eat shit and die NeoGAF "PLEASE BUY A PS4 XD" shill.
>>342401005
i'm going to bet it sells better on PC because of how JRPG hungry we are
>>342400843
>porting it should be easy enough for us, although I can’t promise that it would be fast
Have fun waiting a year or two.
>>342391949
No, but it will be the PS3's last good one.
>>342401115
>because of how JRPG hungry we are
Yeah everyone bought Trails in the Sky SC since they were so hungry for JRPGs
>>342391949
Absolutely not.
i know you're an underage cumsmear and all, but there has NEVER been a good star ocean game.
NEVER.
>>342401162
I don't care about waiting for games, I have plenty to play as it is my friend. Glad we all will get to experience it eventually though.
>>342401276
Trails in the Sky was overhyped garbage series m8.
>>342401491
I'm not your friend, but good for you. I'll do it like usual, buy the game and play through it and when the PC port happens in a couple of years I'll pirate it and look how much better the graphics are before uninstalling.
>>342398024
Have you ever thought that maybe he likes the game so much, that he doesn't want to deal with movies?
>>342401276
I'd say almost 150,000 copies sold is pretty good
>>342401652
You are my friend though, stop caring about console wars so much buddy
>>342401725
It's great if people who use games as shitposting fodder know next to nothing about them. That's not SC. You know, like the SC the guy mentioned you quoted.
>>342401945
>top caring about console wars so much buddy
Except I don't. This could be a fucking foodporn thread on /ck/. You're still a random asshole from 4chan and not my friend.
>>342402008
ah my bad, i'm not familiar with the trails series
>>342402114
okay friendo
>Atelier Sophie
>Tokyo Mirage Sessions
>MHGen
>Odin Sphere
What the fuck is going on this summer.
>desperate for a new game since every thing has been shit for the past three months
I'm going to do it. I'm going to purchase Star Ocean 5. I Don't care anymore, I NEED SOMETHING
>>342402478
You forgot the most important one.
>>342401108
>Needs to figure out the controls first
We're just going to plug in our DS3/DS4s to play it anyway come on Squeenix.
>>342402478
never got a chance to play odin sphere worth the money?
>>342401068
>They are more laid back JRPGs.
Ah, that sounds kinda nice.
>Sophie is probably the most entry level atelier game to date.
Okay, might give it a chance once I finish my PS4 backlog. Hope I enjoy it. Seems to be a popular series as well so if I do like it, there's plenty more to come/go back to.
>>342402750
dunno, this will be my first time as well, once it's released in europe
>>342392965
The platinum takes 35 hours. 20 is a normal playthrough.
>>342391949
This game is a pretty solid 8/10. It's even better for you Americans since you get all the DLC.
>>342403213
I can't believe any sane director working on a JRPG could think that is acceptable. There's being innovative and then there's bringing out a half-finished game. I wouldn't even be bothered if there was enough side-content to fill up the hours, but I am not paying full price for a JRPG that's atleast a third of the length it should be.
>>342403772
Probably ran out of budget lmao
>>342403772
Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet with no source.
>>342403772
I don't care as long as it's 35 hours of quality content. I am not interested in the least of playing a game that's 70+ hours long with content stretched out as thin as possible. All these open world garbage games like Xenoblade Chronicles X and MGS5 are filled to the brim with so much shit content and only a small smidgeon of something that's actually fun that it becomes pretty tiresome to sludge through them.
>>342402569
Just wait for the better PC version. The game is apparently bad, don't waste your money on the shitty console version, be patient and get if from steam sales like any other sane individual.
>>342404278
I want to be optimistic about this game, but there are a lot of reviews saying that it's short. There's even an interview where the director himself says he wanted to try something new with this game and make it shorter than the average JRPG because he believes their fans are older now and have less time to sink into a game.
The sources are out there, just look 'em up.
>>342405128
Having only one planet is just unexcusable.
>>342391949
>PS3 game ported to PS4
To the trash it goes, just like the new Tales of.
Do a fucking 100% Next gen game and then we talk.
>>342399758
This. Jesus, drop ports are nothing to be proud of.
>>342405128
My source is actually playing the game: 35 hours for plat is absolutely impossible, especially on your first go through.
You're at 20 hours for main story if you go at a brisk pace -- most people will finish in 25-30. You're looking at 30-35/35-40 for all sidequests+PAs, and 40-50/50-60 for 6W EQ if you don't look up broken role combinations and IC stuff.
For plat you need to finish the game on Galaxy, Universe, and Chaos (Chaos unlocks after clearing Galaxy, but trophies don't stack), 100% item book, 100% BTs (they're not nearly as bad as SO3 and 4's, they're more basic things but one of them is 1 million hits in battle which takes like 10 hours of grinding on its own), and 100% monster book. Nobody is doing all that in 35 hours.
>>342407414
For me a JRPG ends when I beat the final boss. Archievements/Trophies mean nothing to me.
If I reach the final boss in 20 hours it's a 20 hours game.
pd: Have to say I only reach final bosses AFTER sidequesting
>>342392413
Till the end of time was the best imo
>>342407414
35 hours is still short for a JRPG, but not so short I'll write it off. I doubt it'll be a return to form for the series, but I'm going to give it a fair shot.
>>342391949
I'm buying it. I'm a sucker for JRPGs, shitty or not.
Honestly I like that it's short.
But whatever.
>>342404303
>35 hours
umm. Try less. Like try cutting 15 hours out of that less.
>>342391949
>censored trash
Nope. I'll contribute to it being bomba here by buying it used.
>>342407694
Same. I do all the sidequests and optional content I can find and then I beat the final boss. If that takes 20-30 hours, it is way too short of a game.
Trophies or whatever don't count for me. Most of them are obvious optional filler that reward you for beating the game three times.
>>342403527
>Try the demo
>Single player is so short I have no idea if it's going to be any good
>Online multiplayer is completly broken because other players are too high level
I'm not sure what they were thinking
>>342399271
>he's happy he gets shitty leftover ports
geez I wonder why PC fags are so quick to want console games it's almost as if PC has no good exclusives...
>>342407414
>It's not 20 hours because you have to replay the game 3 times and farm for 10 hours
If anything you just made me hate the game enough to never buy it
>>342407414
All of that sounds boring to try to go after you've beaten the game one time. If the harder difficulties just means the enemies take more damage and give more damage, then that's fucking worthless. What actually changes between difficulties that makes it more interesting. This is a short game, period, and embarrassingly so even among its own series of Star Ocean games.
>1 million hits in battle which takes like 10 hours of grinding on its own), and 100% monster book.
All I'm reading is "padding padding padding padding, please don't notice our bullshit short ass jrpg, padding padding.
>>342409360
>If anything you just made me hate the game enough to never buy it
Not even him but if thats what you took away from that post then youre retarded
>>342407694
I'm inclined to agree with you, though I squeeze as much out of a JRPG as I can with separate save files. SO2 actually taught me this:
>be me at final save point
>if i beat the final boss as i am it will be tough, but i won't care about the side content
>if i complete the side content i'll be overpowered and the story loses its tension from the final boss going down so easily
>2 save files it is
FFX is a perfect example of why you should do this:
>beat all monsters in the arena
>get all celestial weapons
>max out all gear
>penultimate final boss goes down in one hit
>final boss goes down in 2 hits
>ending felt weak
>>342407414
Whenever anyone tells me most people should finish a JRPG in 20'ish hours, it probably means it's probably short as fuck.
>>342401115
Neptunia not enough for you?
>>342409616
I don't know how you guys can do it, usually I just give up because I'm so underleveled I'd need to farm for hours to catch up so the boss don't 1 hit KO my whole party
>>342391949
>Will this be PS4's first good JRPG?
Not when it was already confirmed as trash by the japs
>short as fuck, almost half of SO3
>LITERALLY ONE SINGLE FUCKING PLANET
>easy as fuck because you are forced to use all party members at once
>barely any extra content
>sidequests are literally kill x of y enemy
>>342409616
>2 save files it is
You just saved the rest of JRPG I will play from now on. Thank you anon.
>>342405128
>There's even an interview where the director himself says he wanted to try something new with this game and make it shorter than the average JRPG because he believes their fans are older now and have less time to sink into a game.
Why does he pretend younger, newer fans don't exist?
>>342392164
fpbp.
Star Ocean 2 was a fluke.
the game is confirmed trash, if you gonna buy it anyway at least wait for a price drop
>>342411794
>fpbp
SO1 was a mediocre spin-off of Tales
>SO2 was a fluke.
Choice of 2 mains with slightly different outcomes barely makes it worth a 2nd playthough.
SO3 was weeb garbage with a plot twist that ruins the rest of the franchise but at least it had decent side content.
SO4 is definitely trash
>kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay?
SO5...I hope isn't trash. Probably will be though.
>>342392848
Works well with 4 character, kinda shit with 7+ some of which are nameless AI you can't control. Not at home right now, but SO5's combat sounds good on paper but is terrible. Essentially it means you are responsible for only a faction of what is going on, it's too chaotic. The game is perfect with remote play. Too bad they managed to fuck up the camera work.
>>342412273
>hiding your psn
Why? Literally no one cares
>>342412273
Won't be the first or last time I mix up SO and PSO.
>>342412273
>Remote play is boss
Pointless feature only useful for kids who live with mum and dads that hog up the tv.
>>342407414
SO3 is like 70 - 80 hours to be fair
goddamn that game is long
>>342412508
You would be surprised, people have sent me random message and have stalked me online. I would not hide it if it was not a problem.
>>342412627
>Weapons of something
I'm curious cute girl with infinite trophies, what is that game?
>>342412668
I'm actually at my job. Internet is good enough where I live to remote play across town.
>>342412915
Generic MMO with anime looking character, PSO2 is better.
>>342412930I didn't know remote play could be used like that
>>342413248
Ah didn't know it was a F2P.
Only good F2P on PS4 is Spelunker (since I'll never get to play PSO2)
>>342413270
>Try to use it at my job
>Can't connect
Either it's because I activated local remote play on the ps4 and Sony is dumb enough to disable any other kind of remote play, either the firewall is blocking it.
It's a shame because I would love to play some video games
>>342413270
But that is the main feature... It's better with a windows 10 laptop because the vita has a shit network card.
>>342400672
this
god damn
stop being too retarded /v/
>>342413563
It's probably because your connection is shit or you don't have the right ports forwarded.
>>342394398
>it's not even better than 4
>no annoying characters
>no angsty protagonist
>no blindsides making boss fights a joke
I'm starting to wonder if you're the same guy in all these threads that just can't get down his hateboner for this game.
>>342391949
Pretty sure Bloodborne is out.
>>342413568
>It's better with a windows 10 laptop
Go away, Microshill
>>342400672
Don't take shit posters seriously, they are jelly of thr ps4's success and the vita is going to outlive the 3ds.
>>342393832
>slightly better than 4
kaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
>>342394398
>not even better than 4
kaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
>>342413912
I hate windows but sony in all it's wisdom decided that the remote play app would only work on windows 10, the vita, or one of thier shitty phones.
>it's a "short game = bad game" thread
Fuck off fags, I hate games that require me to sink a hundred hours into them.
Give me an actual reason to not buy this game. Is it fundamentally broken in any way?
>>342398870
>Everything I've been reading is just that it's short
In a game series that was easily 50 hours of Main Game starting from SO2; its fifth game being barely 25 hours is just shameful.
>or people angry that it's only on one planet.
The problem is lack of varied locations and dungeons, SO1 was just one planet, yet it had greatly differing locations.
Even SO4 in all its shitty story and shitty characers, had great varied locations and absolutely great Post-Game Dungeons.
SO5's saving grace are the characters not being as shit as the SO4 ones and the Private Actions being back to their classic style.
>>342414186
complaints go beyond short, combat is unweildly, you constantly need to stop combat to use items, it's not seemless like in darksouls, too many allies to control, in the end ai does 90% of the work in most combats, hell once you have everything set up they win every fight other than boss fights without you. The camera work is shit, and the game arbitrarly tells you where you can and can't go, so there is no exploration. My dick made the purchase for me but I should have stopped it, no more!
>>342414618
None of that really bothers me.
Is there a more childish and butthurt fanbase than the PC? In a thread about a game on PS4 where the Director has said it might come to PC - instead of talking about the game they shitpost about the PS4 and circle-jerk over their overpriced MOBA machines. How are these users not banned? Don't they realize that all this does is make them look insecure and mad as fuck that they don't have the game? The game is 1080p 60FPS on PS4 and PC port which doesn't exist will likely be garbage, so why not go and actually talk about a PC game in another thread.
>>342414618
Star Ocean's always been like that though. A key strategy in surviving against superbosses is to pop that menu, plan your next move and then switch to a free character because you know you're gonna get raped by the next move. It's a different kind of playing style, definitely not something to be compared to Dark Souls let alone other JRPGs.
>>342414186
>Being this retarded
The main issue with this game is you can tell this game cut corners and more development time and longer game would help with story and characters. This is a low budget game pretending to be a high one.
>>342414780
>>342414817
Then you will love it.
>>342409096
>Single player is so short I have no idea if it's going to be any good
There's 40-something single player quests, the original JP release was really lacking since it only had the guild story which was 12 chapters but in for the western release they added in all the DLC, which includes story quests for each of the kingdoms and a bunch of new unit classes.
It's actually pretty okay in content, and by the time you're done with the SP you can go into the War mode with no issuesif it's not dead by then, if it is, enjoy being one of five autists still playing it and carry your favorite kingdom on your own.
Still better than the shit in OP's picture, at any rate.
>>342414931
>pretending to be a high one
I have NEVER gotten the impression of Star Ocean being a "high budget" franchise. It's always been B-series material to me, so mediocrity doesn't really turn me off.
>>342414931
>This is a low budget game pretending to be a high one.
This.
>>342414186
You're a retard if you think a really small amount of content (we're talking about 30 hours of gameplay at most here) is fine for an RPG, but regardless, it's not broken nor is it a bad game, it's just awfully shallow and not really worth the money for what you get.
Which is a disappointment, because if there's anything Tri-Ace doesn't make, that's mechanically shallow and short games.
>>342415163
Then where did the budget for this game go? Because it looks like most went into graphics.
>>342415481
>we're talking about 30 hours of gameplay at most here
I don't want to spend more than two weeks to beat a game.
>>342415163
Star Ocean as a whole was never big, but Square-Enix pretended SO5 was one when they had it along with big shots like FFXV, Hitman, Tomb Raider, FFVII Remake at their E3 presentation last year.
>>342415691
That's your problem.
I wanted to spend a month like I did on SO3 and SO4; 63 hours and 72 hours respectively.
>>342415912
It's not my problem if I'm getting a game that's just as long as I wanted.
It is, however, YOUR problem that it's not long enough for you.
>>342415481
It's not made by tri-ace
>>342403527
>It's even better for you Americans since you get all the DLC.
Are the DLC free or Train Simulator tier?
>>342416345
It's already in the game. The japs had to pay quite a bit for it, though.
>>342416137
Then Tri-Ace's logo is there just out respect?
>>342403772
It's like 50 hours to properly 100% the game which isn't too bad, but that includes doing tedious fetchquests. The director intentionally made the game short because they know that a lot of people with real lives can't invest in a 50 hour jRPG, but that was a bad idea in the long run since the game didn't reach a new audience and the hardcore fans are justifiably upset.
>>342392624
I was actually surprised with how good this game turned out to be. I was expecting it to be total shit but it has decent production values and the combat is good. Nothing crazy but certainly not at the same level of their normal crap.
>>342417147
>the game didn't reach a new audience
It got me interested in Star Ocean
>>342417147
I hadn't even heard of the series until I saw Fiore and the deluge of shitposting about the game.
Maybe his plan worked after all?
When are we getting SO2 on PS4 and Vita in engish?
>>342417480
The entire game looks like it should be on Vita or PS3, the framerate tanks from time to time for no apparent reason and the combat is decent until you begin to see bullshit enemies that kill your entire party and take random turns for literally no reason. Add to that reused assets like with every other CH game and, well, it really doesn't have good production values in the least.
It's arguably as bad as their usual crap, even if it's not as much of a grindfest. I don't see why you'd waste your time on that piece of shit of a game, even if it cost you $4.
>>342417147
This sounds like a stupid decision, but a middle ground could've worked. I don't think anyone would've minded the short main quest if the game was loaded with optional content, like dungeons and bosses, but it isn't.
>>342417634
>>342417943
It'd be nice if there's more people like you since I don't want to see the series die. The sales in Japan weren't that great although it did have a split release (PS3 version came later, not sure if it ever even came out.)
>>342418030
I think the real blow to most people is just that the side content isn't that substantial. There's much less post-game stuff than the previous titles which makes the short story all the worst. They should have just filled the game with involved personal action sidequests for people who want to see more story but kept the actual story relatively short for people to blow through it. And, of course, they should have packed it with more post-game stuff. That's also stuff people can grind at their own pace after clearing the game, since there's little to no story there's no reason to push through it quickly.
>>342418381
Beyond all the hate from otaku over the model change, how has the game been doing sales wise in Japan?
>>342418381
if Last Hope didn't kill the series, I doubt this one will
But I'd get used to smaller Star Ocean games, if I were you
>>342407414
What would you rather do for the plat? Grind everything in Galaxy then replay the game fast throught Universe and Chaos?
>>342418649
Debuted second launch week, under Youkai Watch at 113k. In comparison, SO4 debuted with 164k sales on 360. So there was a pretty significant drop there, although it's likely that some people were waiting for the PS3 release since PS4 doesn't have super high adoption rates in Japan (that's why lots of jRPGs are still PS3/PS4). The PS3 release only had 20k sales on week 1 so it didn't really make up the difference, probably because of the negative reception 5 got and the delayed release from the PS4 version. Not even sure how the PS3 version runs.
Ps4 isn't impressing me at all right now. PS2 and PS1 had so many excellent JRPGs but PS4 doesn't have a single good one yet, it's sad.
>>342415487
don't forget optimization.. muh 60fps
It looks a shit load better than Zestiria though. Quite frankly I don't mind most the budget going to graphics. I'm not usually one to give a shit about them but I'm kinda getting sick of paying full $60 for games that could run on PS3.
>>342412273
>Remote Ray
sounds like a discarded Mega Man X boss
>>342419336
Every RPG are on the Vita
>>342418030
>This sounds like a stupid decision, but a middle ground could've worked. I don't think anyone would've minded the short main quest if the game was loaded with optional content, like dungeons and bosses, but it isn't.
From what I've researched there are repeatable endgame dungeons that go pretty deep. I watched a few videos on it. Not sure how many floors the dungeons are but the bosses definitely get a lot harder as you progress. I'm new to the series but I've heard this is standard for SO games.
>>342419214
Well, given the revilement SO4 got, the drop in sales may correlate with older fans eschewing newer SO entries. Still a shame though.
Which would you like?
Soooo uhhhh
is the only complaint about the game here that it's only 20 hours long?
Because that wouldn't put me off buying the game in the slightest
>>342419889
Just give me Fiore.
>>342419889
Titty Witch Or Tomboy Monk
>>342419894
The story isn't that great but that's the biggest complaint, yeah. It's generally normal SO besides that. If you liked 2, 3, or even 4, you'll probably like this as long as the length doesn't bother you.
There are some other issues, like the way it does cutscenes and that you can't actually skip them, but it's not like the combat is offensively bad - although it takes some of SO3's dumber mechanics.
>>342419336
The genre is struggling to stay relevant and Japan was convinced the PS4 had no chance of success until the middle of last year.
this game is trash even for weeb standards
>>342419889
I would say Reimi is slightly better than Miki.
Still, who gives a fuck, SO5 actually plays it right and gives Private Actions that lets out choose again, so Fiore it is.
>>342419336
The place to get jRPGs now is Vita, and sometimes waiting for PC ports. It's too expensive to make them on console unless you're guaranteed sales or are willing to turn out absolute garbage like Compile Heart - and even most of their stuff is Vita exclusive/Vita ports.
There's some good stuff coming if P5 and XV don't end up being garbage, but I don't think we'll ever go back to the days where PS2/PS1's numbers of jRPGs are gonna be on a home console, They'll be on portable. Last gen they were on DS, this time they're mostly on Vita.
I am Setsuna is also coming out pretty soon on PS4/PC, if you like PS1 or SNES RPGs you'll probably like that.
>>342420169
>It's generally normal SO besides that
Where's Gabriel Celeste and Iseria Queen?
That's "normal SO stuff".
>>342402569
The sad state of the sonyggers
>>342418934
>if Last Hope didn't kill the series
It did, the reason this game exist is to test if people want more SO games. However with how bad it did in Japan if it bombs in the west then SO is died.
>>342420568
>XV
>JRPG
kek no
I'll just stick to 3ds and vita then if that's the state of home consoles. PC isn't good for JRPGs, it's mostly just trash that doesn't sell that gets ported over.
>>342420753
game died with SO4. SO5 looks to be more of the same trash
>>342391949
Grand Kingdom is good, though I guess you're excluding SRPGs.
>>342421221
Has no story.
>>342419889
Do a Fiore and Miura comparison now.
>game might maybe get a PC release
>threads full of shitposting now
PCfags are the absolute most cancerous fanbase on this board and they're deluded enough to think that Sony is.
>>342421824
It does, though. What are you on?
>>342422542Gluten.
>>342421849
That one is easy.
You can make the MC end up with one in his game, you can't make the MC end up with other in the other game.
>>342414798
I can easily pirate it on PC though.
And since this is turning out to be mostly kusoge at least I won't lose money
>>342420852
A lot of devs unfortunately go by FF to decide if it's worth making a new JRPG. Even if you don't care for XV you should hope that it's at least moderately successful
>>342407694
Star Ocean isn't for you then, every single one of then had relatively short main campaigns, OP post game content, and then focus on replaying the game on higher difficulties.Yes, this series isn't that great
>>342423552
>every single one of then had relatively short main campaigns
Yeah nah, you haven't played SO3 and SO4.
>>342407414
How are character endings
Is it SO4 all over again or do we see some character paring specific endings, cause I watched some interview say that
https://youtu.be/P4u8VmVUGf4?t=112
>>342423805
SO3's campaign is pretty short, actually. It's like 30-35 hours even if you're slow. It just had a shitload of post game content and a bit of midgame stuff if you used a guide - you'd probably miss most of it without one. 4's campaign is pretty lengthy even without side content, though.
>>342407823
Except that whole story plot twist.
>>342422404
given SE love for PC It's pretty much confirmed famalam. no need to get so butthurt, it's reactions like "pcucks are ruining our games REEE" that make the threads bad my dear sonypony. before calling others cancer look at yourself in the mirror
>>342423863
SO5 went back to its roots on Private Actions, that's the thing it did right.
So yeah, you make Fidel score other women in the end.
>>342419894
>tfw one of the 5 people on earth that has actually played and enjoys SO1 SNES so I don't mind
>>342412761
>Still haven't 100% the trophies.
I love the game but hot damn some of these trophies are impossible to get.
>>342423863
>>342424378
Vid for proof if you want to be spoiled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7o6iNWhdq4
>>342424615
I tried to play it but it always crashed for me to a point it became unplayable without savescumming.
The PSP version is fun on it's own.
It's called Star Ocean 5 because there's only 5 fucking towns in the game.
>>342401108
Why are you so mad other people like to use consoles on a comfy couch for a long rpg sessions. Not even is an autist that places a tower in a living room, I'd bet my PC is better than yours anyway.
>>342425930
It's called Star Ocean 5 because there's only 5x4 hours of gameplay
>>342391949
I literally only want to play it because of Fiore. She's perfect.
Sophie is already on the PS4 mate..
>>342425930
That's 5 more than FFXIII.
I've played Star Ocean 5. It's not a great game, but people saying it's short are wrong. If anything it's too fucking long.
Problem is the game has a shitty story, it's way too easy and a lot of areas are reused. This makes the last half of it feel like a chore to play through and you'll be wishing it was over but it just wont fucking end.
>>342423987
Wasn't that bad, the overall game was still great.
>>342426494
>its too fucking long
t. neo/v/
>>342426494
>If anything it's too fucking long.
If that is a long JRPG for you, then consider abandoning the genre.
>>342426596
Minimum of 30 hours for a single play through without optional content. But the game is so shit you'll actually be wishing it was 8 hours long because you just want to stop playing.
>>342426681
Most JRPGs I've played were 20-30 hours, excluding optional content. Sure a few are a lot longer, but most aren't.
>>342425989
Not him but consider the following: because consoles are fucking cancer that holds back the industry and by giving money to anti-consumer companies like sony you further enable the cancer? You own a PC. You know that deep down it's the truth.
>>342391949
No
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwje26S5ib3NAhVBJJQKHXWsAkwQFgg4MAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkotaku.com%2Fstar-ocean-integrity-and-faithlessness-the-kotaku-imp-1774392290&usg=AFQjCNFVkHHnBntZQL7X62V0vXxidW_jLQ&sig2=wbRv__rqUGDwglrdDu6R_w&bvm=bv.125221236,d.dGo
Did they ever fix the camera? I heard a lot of japs complaining about it because shit was so fucking chaotic in combat you couldn't tell what was going on.
There's no way Star Ocean 5 can be as bad as 4, right? I don't think I have ever seen more lazy level design in any other RPG. Just square rooms where you just go forward, and each dungeon is just a reskin of the last one.
>>342427251
It's slightly better than 4, but only sligjtly.
If 4 was a 4/10, 5 is a 4.5/10.
>>342426681
I can imagine it being a legitimate complaint only if the gameplay was a total pushover.
>>342426835
>Sure a few are a lot longer, but most aren't.
What JRPGs have you played? Pretty much every one I've liked has lasted 50 hours minimum, except maybe the Atelier games, which take around 20-30 depending on how much you think about your actions and if you read a guide to fuck around with the alchemy or not.
Also, never touch DQ7 you faggot.
>>342427001
My consoles have given me the best games over the last 30 years so I'm not sure what's being held back. Even what I choose to play on my PC are often just mutiplats that I want 60 fps for.
Jap games have never been about hardware strength period. They care about fun not 4k blades of grass.
>>342427001
Steam is the ultimate cancer look no further than greenlight.
>>342427560
I grew up playing PS1 JRPGs. I specifically remember my playtime on most of those did not reach above 35 hours and that was usually the last save before the last boss.
Right now according to Steam I have a 100% complete save file for FF7 and FF8. Both are about 55 hours. My playtimes for Trails in the Sky (both) is about 35 hours and I have completed the both of them.
From personal experience, the average length for a JRPG is 30-40 hours. Star Ocean 5 is about normal length for a JRPG.
>>342396752
SO3 Welch is added as a playable character. She's actually pretty good.
When can I expect the superior PC version?
>>342420568
What the heck are you people smoking? Pretty much every RPG in Japan is coming to PS4, the superior versions I might add. Like the only game PS4 isn't getting from Vita is Cold Steel 2, also PS3 game.
tfw I genuinely enjoyed the story for star ocean 4, fucking loved the gameplay and honestly think it's a good game.
Why is Fayt the protagonist for every new Star Ocean game?
>>342427078
>Fkotaku.com%
I won't touch that.
>>342423805
I did, maybe you took too many detours, because SO3's main story is actually pretty short, 30 hours tops.
I really didn't play SO4 though.
>>342428051
>PS1 JRPGs
I've sunk around 60 hours on FFT, 50 on Xenogears,120hours on DQ7, 50 on Suikoden II, 40 on BoF IV, 50 on Front Mission 3, and another 50 on Grandia. Granted, that's when I was far younger, but JRPGs tend to last more than that, at least the ones I've played to completion.
Star Ocean 5 definitely isn't anywhere near normal length for a JRPG, without extra content most games from the genre tend to last around 10 to 20 hours more, minimum. And that's not even going into autistic shit like Disgaea.
>>342428465
Because when your name is Fayt Leingod you just have that right.
>>342428770
>>342428051
>>342427560
>>342426835
For reason of the game length
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/05/star-ocean-5-preview-changes-western-rpg/#p3
>"From the core Star Ocean fans that have been following the series for a long time, there have been mixed opinions about Star Ocean 5. We've had some very good and some very bad comments," Kobayashi says when I ask him about how the game, released at the end of March in Japan, has been received. "Because of what has been done with previous Star Ocean games maybe what a lot of long-term fans were expecting was a really long game that's going to take you many, many hours to get through. What we did this time was slightly change the focus, though."
>"We really wanted to attract new players for the good of the future of the franchise."
>"We don't take control away from the player," Kobayashi says. "Previously in Star Ocean you'd have a lot of long, static cut scenes that you would have to watch, then you'd play some game, then you'd watch another cut scene. Here, though, we don't want the player to feel as though they're not in charge at any point. It's a very difficult balance to get that interactivity alongside having the kind of story we want to tell, but I think the balance we've got between the dramatic storytelling and the actual gameplay is what we aimed for from the start."
>"Looking to the future, if we're going to take Star Ocean on another 20 years, then we absolutely have to appeal to more fans and younger fans," states Kobayashi. "That will allow us to achieve a generational changeover and prevent the series being locked into a single generation."
>"In some ways we are maybe not 100 percent confident that what we make is going to be popular around the world," he continues. "More than that, though, is that if we don't make something that we think is good and we're happy with then there's no point in doing it at all. We have to believe in it first."
TL;DR
They did it to get new playerbase
>>342428770
Then you must play those games slowly.
Suikoden 2, BoF 4 and Grandia are all pretty short. All are easily less than 30 hours, Suikoden 2 and BoF 4 are closer to 20 hours long.
For me. BoF 3 and 4 are around 25 hours.
Chrono Cross was around 30.
Digimon World 1 was like 8 for the story, Digimon World 3 was about 20.
FF7 and 8 were around 35-40. FF9 was like 25-30.
Suikoden 1 and 2 were 20-25.
Jade Cocoon was about 10 hours long.
Parasite Eve was around 8 hours.
Rhapsody was 10-15.
Star Ocean 2 was like 40-45.
Tales of Destiny and Eternia were 35-40.
Valkyrie Profile was 10-12 hours.
Wild Arms 1 and 2 were 40-45 hours.
Xenogears was around 45-50.
>>342429541
Please tell me this shit is fake. Will it at least be like so4?
>>342429935
It clearly an interview, so no it is not fake, also look at
>>342423863
>tfw you don't give a shit about length because your favorite game series of all time is Way of the Samurai which can be beaten in less than 20 minutes technically.
Length is not what people should be concerned about. It's replay value.
>>342414164
wait you can remote play a ps4 on a w10 pc? what the fuck?
