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Happy Akane Day, NIGHT NIGHT edition

6 days until release, it's dangerously close to being spoiled
Favorite ZTD theory?
Best music?

What platform are you planning on playing ZTD on?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10532964

Ahhhh I'm late to write this so it's a little rushed. Keep the discussion alive!
Continued from >>342316804

"Jumpy... I'm sorry... I... I might not make it. Thank you, Jumpy... Thank you so much... For everything... I was... really happy... To see you again, Jumpy... Really... happy..."
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>>342390918
why did the first game look like western art?
strange.
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thanks for the broadcast
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>>342391114

Capcom designer did it.
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CIA LEAK PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE I BEG YOU UCHIKOSHI. FUCK
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>>342390918
>Favorite ZTD theory?
Ancient Egypt Alice
>Best music?
999: Ternary Game
VLR: Monitor
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>>342390918

>What platform are you planning on playing ZTD on?

3DS obviously, it looks way fucking better.
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>Uchikoshi says fans are going to be "divided" on the ending
ruh roh
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>>342391245
YOU'RE A G-G-GENUINE SIGMASUCKER
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>>342391174
thanks for the broadcast
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>>342390918
>Best music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjVdrDswgA
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>>342391174
Honestly, this was one of my favourite scenes in VLR.
>>342391312
>Ancient Egypt Alice
Is that basically just Alice is All-Ice or what?
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>>342391404
>on
i meant over
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>>342391483
Alice gets tossed back in time.

Yes it's silly, but the series is getting there at this point.
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>>342391418
I DON'T CARE AS LONG AS I HAVE THE CIA
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>>342391404

It'll be a good ending, but Akane's either going to:
A. Die
or
B. Be stuck in a timeloop in order to ensure Brother doesn't win, but she can never spend the rest of her life with Junpei
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>>342390918

>Favorite ZTD theory?
Easily Brother = Snake. There's just so much work put into it for something that doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being right.

>Best music?
Gotta go with Blue Bird Lamentation

>What platform?
Since there's no option for this in the poll, I got / am getting all three and intend on playing whichever one arrives first (Fuckin Amazon).
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6 = 0
Leak confirmed for today
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Uchikoshi also said that he hadn't decided on an ending when he began writing, it took him a very long time to come up with it
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CHARACTER SORTER

http://zesorter.tumblr.com/

If Junpei isn't best character, gtfo this board.
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>>342391724
No shit
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He also says that while he does not want to get bashed, he is prepared to get bashed a bit (over some parts of the game, or the ending)

that makes me think maybe he's going to pull an umineko or something
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>>342391418
The esper
Exterior like Phobos base
The interior like submarine
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>>342391954
>VLR Clover and Alice not at the bottom by default
it's shit
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>>342392129
As someone who has never played Umineko, could you give me a quick rundown of why the ending is so shit? I've always been curious, and I kinda wanted to play it, but then I heard the ending was awful, and now I'm never going to.
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>>342391954
>1st is Tenmyouji
>2nd is Seven
>3rd is Luna
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>>342391954
>http://zesorter.tumblr.com/
Clover is just too cute to not have her in the top3
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"I wanna be thin..."
;__;
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>>342392516

Bad guys win.

That's it. That's really all there is too it.

For them to pull the same shit here would mean that Brother wins. That's it. He just wins and eradicates all of humanity and recreates it in his vision.

I can see that not going over well with... anyone.
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>>342391954
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>>342392516
The ending is not shit, it's just that a lot of people think the author didn't reveal the truth because it wasn't spelled out in big red letters for them. They were angry because the answers weren't handed to them on a silver platter basically.
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>>342391954
kind of wonder why nijisaki and musashidou are even on there
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>>342393086
>Umineko
>Bad guys win
???
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>>342376720
> Gamestop said they will get the preorder bonuses for VLR
> Find out the watches are only available on Amazon
> That fucker lied to me
And that is why I'm wary to go back to Gamestop unless I was being super lazy
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BEST ACTRESS
BEST ESPER
BEST GIRL
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>>342391954
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>>342392516
> Vague ending
> Nothing really gets solved
> Almost no point in the individual mysteries before the very last one
> This is subjective but unlike Higurashi, there were no survivors after all

The vagueness was resolved with the manga version.
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>>342391954

You can have any of the top 6 characters in your top 3 and not be an absolute shitter.

Unless you have Quark higher than 15, in which case you have the shittiest taste.
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>>342393397

We're talking the game, not the manga.
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>>342393842
>Vague ending
how?
>Nothing really gets solved
What didn't get solved?
>Almost no point in the individual mysteries before the very last one
what mysteries are you referring to?
>This is subjective but [spoilers]
but there were 2 survivors
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Quick, where was that ending leak from last thread? Surely SOMEONE saved it. Lets see what we can theorize from them.
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>>342394045
I still don't get what you mean anon, please explain
there weren't any 'bad guys' in Umineko
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>>342394264

they were implied to have died in the epilogue
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>>342394387
OP linked the last thread, surely you can find it yourself.
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>>342391954
Okay.
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>>342394526
Well Eva obviosuly died of old age, but Tohya and Ange were still alive.
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>>342394886
>Dio at 4
He was such a shitty villain I can't even believe it. All he did was bitch and whine and provoke people even though being a fucking undercover saboteur it would have made sense to actually try to win others' trust.
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>>342395112
He's such an idiot. But maybe he didn't try to get along with the others because betraying them would have been worse...
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>Tomorrow the review embargo ends
>Tomorrow footage gets released

We will spoil everyone... not just you 6... all 6 billion.
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>>342391954
This made me realize I don't really like any of the characters, i don't feel a thing about any of them.

I'm just in it for the mystery.
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DAMN BRAT
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>>342395390
You're really nice. People say it's a fault of mine.
Please... SPOIL ME.
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>>342395112
His plan was just to make sure the AB plan failed, either by escaping or blowing the whole place up. And considering how willing to die he was, blowing up the facility probably wasn't a last-ditch/only if you have to plan, but just another way to screw up the project.
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>>342395541
If we don't do something WE'RE THE ONES WHO DIE
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Any idea what time the embargo ends tomorrow?

I'm Yurop here so it'll probably in my evening?
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>>342395390
Too bad that Aksys still has a bug up its ass about spoilers, even once the embargo lifts.
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>>342395390
Someone leak the game before it's too late
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>>342391954
Lotus babyyy
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mine
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>>342391418
Hey yo I'm adding this guy to Axelavir vaccine list.
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REMEMBER THE RULES
I EXPECT TO SEE BLACK BARS
ZE THREADS HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN VERY GOOD AT THIS
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>>342395853
3-4 PM probably, that's when they usually end.
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>>342395541
Ah, screw it...I'll just SPOIL ALL OF YOU
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ZTD Theories General Post:

>There are two Zeroes
Reasoning: The specific choice of the Monarch or the Viceroy for the butterfly lapel indicates there may be more than one Zero, and is a symbol for the butterfly effect.

>Q's identity changes depending on timeline or fragment
Reasoning: The Trophy and it's description.

>Q is Kyle
Reasoning: Kyle is present somewhere in the test site, he needs a body to inhabit once he reaches the base, and Q's seems the most viable.

>Carlos is a left clone
Reasoning: Based on his appearance.

>Snake is Brother
Reasoning: There's an entire info-graph on this theory that you had to have seen unless this is your first ZE thread.

>Snake is Zero
Reasoning: Zero in Q's route refer's to Gab as "my eyes", which was then taken to a logical extreme

>Sigma and Phi are related
Reasoning: Uchi has said that they don't end up in a relationship, and to reveal why would be spoilers. The trailers also indicates she is more familiar with Sigma and Diana than just with what goes on in the decision game.

>CQD are all ESPer's
Reasoning: Carlos's realization of the multiple timelines in a trailer, and then taken to a conclusion that all the people present must be ESPer's

>Brother is attempting to become a player entity and rewrite humanity
Reasoning: 1) It was practically spelled out for us in VLR. 2) It's an Uchi thing to do.

Let me know if there's any I missed, and correct me if I wrote any of the theories down incorrectly. I don't necessarily believe in any of these, they're just the most common ones I've seen throughout the threads.

There's other shit I've seen like "Q is Brother" or "Phi's a Clone", but none of them seem to have any logical reasoning behind them.
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>>342395853
For one reviewer at least, his YouTube review goes up at midnight LA time. It's already done and just unlisted.
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>>342396368
PST/EST?
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>>342394886
>>342396000
So we can agree that Musashidou > Nijisaki, then?
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>>342396586
You forgot the main theory: Each 40 minutes they jump between different bodies/timelines.
Reasoning: Uchikoshi still hadn't reused R11 twist.
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>>342396586
The Snake is Brother info-graph
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>>342396879
Yes, absolutely.
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>>342396879
naw, fuck that. Nijisaki's purple suit is dapper as fuck.
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>>342396290
>>342395390
How about spoiling you right now?

Aksys_june is a cunt, besides, its my friends review copy anyways, so IDEK
Q is >>342395390
How about spoiling you right now?

Aksys_june is a cunt, besides, its my friends review copy anyways, so IDEK
Q is Young Dio in the timelines where you control him, Dio is a 1st generation left clone, Quark is a second. Only difference is is that Quark gets cryo frozen at the end of ZTD
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>>342396758
GMT +2. Basically for Europe.
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>>342396586
>There are two Snakes
This would sort of tie in with the "There are two Zeroes" or the "Snake is Zero" theories, but as some anons pointed out, there are two Snakes on the Caduceus.

If someone could post the cap of what I'm talking about, it'd be appreciated.
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>>342397191
>pulling the equivalent of "my dad works at nintendo!"
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>>342397278
Anything related to the name "Snake" is irrelevant. That was an invention of the localization.
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>>342397198
Huh, okay.
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>>342397191

FUCK YOU DONT SPOIL SHIT
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I still don't buy the "snake is brother" shit
I'm sure clover would have mentioned having a younger brother.
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>>342397278
>two snakes
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>>342397430

Something that the localization downplayed a lot though, is Snake and Clover's familial relationship.

In the localization, Junpei just thinks it's weird that Snake and Clover are siblings when they don't look alike.

In the original, it's HEAVILY implied that one of the two was adopted.
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>>342397849

Japanese version of 999 implies that one of Light or Clover was adopted. So there could definitely be another Snake out there.
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When does 7 get backstory
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>>342391954
Please understand, I've not played the games in 2 and a half years.
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>>342398207

He did in the Q&A's.

He's apparantly been tracking down and fighting with Free the Soul for a while now.

It's quite likely hell show up in ZTD.
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>>342398261

>No Quark
>No Alice
>No Akane

Good taste anon.
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>>342397894
Well, one of the weird things about the localization is that it changed Clover's real name, not just her codename like all the other characters. In Japan, she has the obviously Japanese name "Yotsuba" while Snake has a more western-sounding name, so there's more of a clear mismatch.
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>>342398261
Good taste, you're gonna vote Ally in the next game, right?
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>>342398261
>Dio number one
I wonder who could be behind this post
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Have "Snake is Brother" posters acknowledged the fact that 1) the game is supposed to be accessible to newer players, and 2) the reveal would be pretty much lost on them?

I'm not shooting down the theory, I'm actually leaning toward it myself, but I'm genuinely curious
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Tie!
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What will you do when Pic Related turns out to be under Q's mask?
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>>342398991
Glorious D cups > flatchest bitch boy
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>>342398469
Akane was tied for 11.

>>342398796
>>342398704
Ally all the way.
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>>342398921
Zero is always one of the participants
Snake is one of the participants, hence why he's physically in the game
guess who
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>>342395970
>only making this for those of you complaning of lack of leaks.
>personally, I really hope there won't be any major ones.
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>>342398921
What reveal would not be lost on newer players then? Sure it was written with new players in mind, but anything from previous games would be lost on them.
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>>342398667

Yeah, the Japanese version made it abundantly clear that Clover and Snake were most likely NOT blood relatives.

The American version just seemed to kind of skip right over it.

I don't know how important it is in the grand scheme of things, but still
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>>342399092
fucking flawless, m8
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>>342399092
A+++
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Thoughts?
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>>342391954
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>>342399340
Worst end, ok plot device
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>>342399340
I hate that he does nothing for the whole game
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>>342399340
Actually really nicely designed character in terms of looks. Shame his huge-ass hat ruined it.
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>>342391954
Kind tough to work with since I beat VLR last month but haven't touched 999 in years.
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>>342399501
>he didn't like Sigma Harem End
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Post your faves from ZTD before release. I wonder if it changes after premiere.
1. Sigma
2. Junpei
3. Carlos
4. Q
5. Phi
6. Diana
7. Akane
8. Eric
9. Mira
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>>342396586
>Phi is Santa after a sex change
Reasoning: Number 3, she looks like Santa for some reason
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>>342399092
10/10 i fuckin love you guys
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>>342398921
Well, it is possible that Uchikoshi planned for Snake to be Brother and put those hints in, but ended up changing it for ZTD. He says he changed a lot of the story to make it more for new players.
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>>342399669
Phido
Junpei
Siggy
Qt
Carlos
Akane
Diana
Mira
Eric

probably will change a bit
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>>342399669
1.Q
2.Diana
3.Mira
4.Sigma
5.Phi
6.Eric
7.Akane
8.Carlos
9.Junpei
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>>342399549
That spoiled brat who keeps bullshitting people
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>>342399669
1. Junpei
2. Carlos
3. Sigma
4. Akane
5. Phi
6. Q
7. Diana
8. Eric
9. Mira

It's very hard judging the Q team as of now, but I'm still very curious about how it will turn out.
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>>342399669
1) Eric
2)Carlos
3)Q
4)Diana
5)Junpei
6)Sigma
7)Phi
8)Akane
9)Mira
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>>342391954
Muh bros
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>>342399669
1. Akane
2. Carlos
3. Diana
4. Sigma
5. Eric
6. Junpei
7. Mira (though I am super interested in learning about her)
8. Phi (seems exactly the same as VLR, and I didn't like her there)
9. Q
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>>342399869

He didn't change the actual story points for new players, just the perspectice from which the game is played.
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>>342399669
1. Mira
2. Eric
3. Unrelevant
4. Unrelevant
5. Unrelevant
6. Unrelevant
7. Unrelevant
8. Unrelevant
9. """"Q""""
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why does everyone hate mira
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>>342399669
1. Eric
2. Sigma
3. Carlos
4. Diana
5. Phi
6. Junpei
7. Akane
8. Q
9. Mira
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>>342399076
What if Gordain's game counts?
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>>342400331

IT'S IRRELEVANT YOU FUCKING POSH DUNCE
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>>342398991
BIG SECRET
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>>342400353
Because every titty character so far have been amazing, right?
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GUYS FUCKIN LISTEN, i have 30 mins, i need to know how to make a cia at least, i'm not in my house, i'm in someones computer so i need retard baby steps now, quick fuckin 30 mins guys can be less
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>>342400353
Last titty monster was a total wash. I've got some hope for her, tho.
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>>342400406

What about it?
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>>342400331
Get out of the thread, Eric
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>>342400353
I don't. I love yanderes
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>>342400469

3DS or Vita?
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>>342400469
Okay, did you try turning on the 3ds? Do it now.
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>>342399669
1. Junpei
2. Sigma
3. Phi
4. Eric
5. Carlos
6. Akane
7. Diana
8. Q
9. Mira
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>>342400469
1. Be a big guy
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>>342400353
I really, really want to like her, she seems very interesting. It's just that we know jack shit about her, except that she's going to be covered in blood for a lot of the game.
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>>342400353
> There is a qt grill that looks like Mira who works at a coffee place across my workplace
> want to ask her out
> not an ice cream man who cosplays

Life is simply unfair.
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>>342400331
Um who is Q? I thought he wasthat damn brat who keeps bullshitting you
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>>342400657
>>342400643


It's not 3DS, it's a Vita.

Do I connect to PC before turning it on?
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>>342400643
>>342400657
3ds, let me search for my friend 3ds, then what? quick guys
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>>342399669
1. Eric
2. damn brat
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>Hey Q, wanna /ll/?
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>>342400469
SEEK A WAY OUT
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>>342391954
Yeah this seems right
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>>342400469
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>>342400770
wtf bro this is real shit do you want fuckin timestap and shit?
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>>342400784

3DS .cia dumping takes at least an hour if you've already got all the tools set up.

The best thing you could do is take pictures and upload them.
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>>342391954
Yeah this seems about right
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>>342400770
lol
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>>342400784
You go outside with it and run away.
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>>342400469
STEAL HIS SD CARD
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>>342400984

>Fuckboi
>Fuckboi
>Fuckbot

Sounds good to me
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>>342400469
Take pictures about the returning characters aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>>342400984
Why the fuck do people like Snake?

What did he do besides "le edgy superhuman" in safe ending?
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>>342400909
>>342400784
>>342400469

It takes too long to make a cia.

Just take pictures of different at points and post em. The game only saves playtime if you manually save it.
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Who am I?
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>>342400909
>do you want fuckin timestap and shit?
Well, duh
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>>342401185

Mostly because he's Brother.
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>>342401185
He's dapper as fuck.
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>>342401360
You're PhIshmael.
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>>342399092
Can you make one of this Ace? With or without text
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>>342401792
Of course! I think there's a shaky one already, but do you want a red filter over it?
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MASSIVE ENDING SPOILERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CX2AS5D5I4

>Reunites with JUMP
Kek
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>>342402065
A red filter would be perfect, thank you
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>>342402065

Absolutely

also you're the best
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>>342400820
This Q is a reverse trap meme needs to die.
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>>342402216
But anon...there's no point in LIVING once you spoil the game you care about...
...the most.

Ever notice Akane looks like she's holding something two-handed here? Say, a chainsaw?
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Looks like there are going to be fullbody dolls of each team member? Lower left.

Also someone who knows this shit translate. There's also a segment on Team D thats interesting as well.
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>>342403130
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>>342397867
> what if there's a third?
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>>342403130
>>342403289
Phi looks like such a hipster.
>I was on a moon basis, but you probably never heard of it
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>>342403289
why are their legs so long
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>>342403130
The dolls were already leaked.
Pic related. Slight spoilers.
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>>342403694
>that barbie
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Anyone else fully expecting an unsatisfying ending? Uchi has quite the track record with those (R11, 999, VLR)
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>>342403130
Actually, it looks like there's gonna be different versions of them. Maybe the portrait change when someone dies?
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>>342404034
(You)
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>>342403130
>Qs doll is broken
>Dianas doll is all creeped up
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>342403694
Weren't Myrmidons called Clay Dolls in the Japanese version of VLR?
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>>342404295
>actually defending the shit endings of R11 and 999
How to recognize a tool.
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>>342404034
>999
>unsatisfying
>Implying
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>>342404354

Yes.

But that has MUCH less to do with literal dolls being made out of clay.

In Japanese, the term clay doll refers to people who are being controlled by others, and it also references Cradle Pharmaceutical.
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>>342402279
>>342402342
Here's the one with the red filter
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>>342404456
Look, I gave you one (You), now you're just being greedy
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>>342404354
Uchi said he'd refrain from any jap only wordplay because of how big part of the fanbase is western.
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>>342404456
(You)
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>>342404582
And here's a CIA leak version
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>>342404547
>never find Akane
>random Alice out of nowhere
How is this a good ending?
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>>342404034
999 provided closure with its safe and true end. It ended on a cliffhanger to set up a sequel.
VLR had a bunch of endings that provided closure. While the true was meant to set up ZTD.
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Would a 3ds demo be a possibility? They did one for VLR.
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>>342404939
999 was meant to be standalone. The idea of a sequel came later.
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>>342404979
Too late now.
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Who /Junpei/ here?
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>>342404939
>999 provided closure
>it's year 2016 and we're STILL waiting for Jumpy to get laid
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>>342405261
17:36 here so not yet
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>>342405210

No, he said that he had the story idea for the entire trilogy, but he wanted to make sure 999 stood on its own because he wasn't sure if it would sell well enough for his sequels.
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>>342404316
The dolls are used to represent characters being alive or dead.
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>>342405379
Just like my life and I'm sure it will get closure when I die.
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>>342404779
You look at that butt and tell me this is not going to have a happy ending.
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>>342404571
"Clay Dolls" means the same thing in Japanese as it does in English. It doesn't have a special meaning.
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>>342405483
it hurts
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>>342404779
Akane had to go, she was a wanted fucki kidnapper after everything
Allice is just a red herring
Every conflict got resolved, every mystery solved and question answered(that was important to the plot) it just ended a bit openly
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>>342405210
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>>342403608
The artist has some anatomy issues.
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>>342405429
If he had the entire thing planned out, how the fuck did he manage to plothole himself so badly he had to backpedal and give Akane literal, physical timetravel abilities that are only mentioned on the internet? Sounds like a J K Rowling syndrome to me.
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>>342405613

http://virtueslastreward.com/qahome/
Q43.

The game writers and Japanese people disagree with you.
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>>342405523
> Nevada Desert
> barefoot
That's gotta hurt.
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>>342405868
Yeah, I'm definitely not buying that. VLR caused too much retconning to 999 for me to believe it was all planned.
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>>342405868
He didn't have the whole thing planned out. I don't think he's ever claimed that he did. The first game was made as a standalone work, then because of its success, he was approached for a sequel, and he had the idea to make it a two-game project for a trilogy. That's why the big-scale plot is introduced in VLR.
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>>342406298
>success
But anon, there was little success for the series (in Japan)
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>>342405868

He planned to give her those powers from the beginning.

He's hinted that Brother having those powers is how he's able to still be alive in VLR and even in 999, and how he's able to cause so much shit.
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>>342405523
That butt is the worst charcater in the series.
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>>342406214
>>342405868
He probably didn't have the entire plot created, just had an idea where he wanted the story to go.
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>>342406214

>retconning

Like what?

Physical Jump powers are the only thing he's given Akane, and even that can be argued he thought of in the beginning.

To be honest, without that, Safe Ending doesn't actually make sense in the context of 999 by itself.
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>>342406518
you're mistaking it for the person it's attached to.
seriously Ace, c'mon now
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>>342406589
Where did this physical jumping come from?
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>>342406442
999 did fairly well in Japan, and it was well-received. The stories of its "failure" are exaggerated. You think they'd get him to make a sequel if it was deemed a failure?
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>>342406875
VLR time shenanigans work differently from 999, and when someone brought it up to Uchi he panicked and said Akane timetraveled away in the Safe Ending, rather than burning up.
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>>342406589
How exactly does the safe ending require Akane to be capable of physical time travel?
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>>342407172
https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/433998278393217024
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>>342406875

999 has multiple timelines that Akane sees, but can't ultimately exist because if they did, she can't survive the incinerator. When the timeline stops existing, Akane gets a fever and Junpei ends up blacking out or dieing.

An obvious exception is the True Ending, since that can exist without Paradox'ing the timeline out of existence.

The weird exception is the Safe Ending. In the Safe Ending, Junpei's not locked out of helping Akane out of the incinerator, but it's super fucking unlikely he'll ever get to the incinerator to help her. She leaves the timeline, but not because the timeline explodes on itself. Uchi's explained it as "she slipped to another time with her whole body".

>http://virtueslastreward.com/qahome/
>Q25 has the relevant information
>Q65 says Brother can do it too

People think for some reason that he had to do this because of the way VLR lets timelines continue on. In reality, it has nothing to do with VLR - the Safe Ending is fucked up on it's own, and the only way to let her get out of that ending is for her to just slip through time with her whole body.

So it has nothing to do with VLR retconning anything, or Uchi retconning anything - he had her able to slip through time from the start. Whether that's good writing or desperately grabbing at straws to get out of a plothole is a different matter, but it has nothing to do with VLR.
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>>342406626
I was just joking dude, don't worry. Akane is a perfectly fine character.
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>>342404979
>surprise demo comes out on JPN e-shop
>NoA tells Aksys to fuck off again
;_;
Nothing is better.
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>>342407172

Anon, 999 and VLR didn't turn a profit in Japan.

The Zero Escape's continuation is only due to it's sales in North America.
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If Akane can physically jump through dimensions and time, I could think up far easier ways to save her over the convoluted ass mess she ended up doing in 999.
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>Snake is looking away in the offical art
HOLY SHIT
BROTHER CONFIRMED
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>>342407172
The story behind Japan's failure is more allegedly that, it's just 3spoopy5Japan and they hated the gore and how fucking eerie 999 was.

That's why VLR happened, less spoopy more drama.
ZDT if anything is more of a love letter to American fans giving back the 999 feeling.
Uchi has said before there was a lot of shit he wanted to do in VLR like Dio raping Clover but that shit was too much for Japan
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>>342407825
That's rude, he doesn't know where he's looking.
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>>342407770

999's super weird in that sense, because when she was a kid, she didn't have the power to slip through time like she did when she was older. And because of the way her powers grew, she needs to ensure that her previous self actually survives.
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>>342407750
>ZTD gets announced in Euro
>They're getting treated worse than the country that rejects the series anyway
how sad
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>Check bank account
>39.99 exactly
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>>342408074
Europe is the one that had it worse. No 999 at all and ZTD just digital.
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>>342408074

Anon, Europe bought 999 and VLR even less than Japan did.

Honestly, they don't even deserve ZTD.
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>>342407905
>Dio raping Clover
For all we know it could've been very violent torture. Dio saw what happened when he had sex once, which is good motivation for him not to rape.
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>>342408040
Plus if she slipped back to that time, there would be two Akane's present, causing a paradox.
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Did they ever explain why Dio was such a shitty secret agent? For an elite assassin, there were probably more things he completely blew than things he did right.
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>>342408259
>Anon, Europe bought 999 and VLR even less than Japan did.
Hard to buy 999 if they don't release it.
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>>342408259
>Europe bought 999 and VLR even less than Japan did.
>Europe bought 999 less
Go fuck yourself senpai
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>>342407905
In the recent Famitsu interview, Uchikoshi says that he looked into things and found that 999's reception was about equal in Japan and overseas, but that it was talked about more overseas because they don't have a bunch of similar games like Japan does. Japanese players didn't complain about it being scary. The changes in VLR were an attempt to widen the audience further, not because the people who played it didn't like it.
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>>342408317
Well, he did manage to kill Akane. And in any other ending he was able to blow the facility. If it weren't for MF powers he would have succeeded.
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>>342408317

One of three things really.

Either
A. Dio's a super shitty secret agent that Brother sent on a suicide mission
B. Dio was supposed to fail, because Brother actually NEEDS the Mars Test site to happen exactly how he plans it
or
C. Dio's a red herring, and it was actually Clover that was sent (possibly unwittingly) for reconnaissance so that she could transfer information back to Snake, who was either Brother or working with Brother
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>>342408074

999 had the shittiest sales in Europe by far.

I'm not surprised they're getting the short end of the stick here.
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>>342408291
physically slipping to another world should create the same exact problem of two Akane. If Safe End Akane slips to True End, there should be two of em.

What, are you gonna tell me in ZTD it's actually Safe End Akane while in VLR it is True End Akane? Sure, it would explain why Akane said she didn't participate but cmon.
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>>342408971

Well, the weird thing is, he also mentioned how they might be able to slip forward and backwards in time as well.

Yeah, no one knows what he's thinking anymore.
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>>342408971
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>342408317
Dio's probably a red herring to draw attention away from the actual secret agent. If he's the only one, he's the shittiest one possible, since he draws so much fucking suspicion to himself in almost every route and gives up the information to defuse the bombs when he probably should've been told by Brother that Sigma and Phi can jump timelines.
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>>342408913
999 had literally 0 sales in yurop. Because it wasn't even released here.
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>>342408971
>What, are you gonna tell me in ZTD it's actually Safe End Akane while in VLR it is True End Akane
HOLY FUCK

THAT'S GOTTA BE IT
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>>342407905
>Uchi has said before there was a lot of shit he wanted to do in VLR like Dio raping Clover but that shit was too much for Japan
It was probably physical assault. CERO bumps your game's rating if it depicts violence against a restrained person.
Hence the laughing rods in Peace Walker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUVGSPW2QbM
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>>342408419
Nothing is still less.
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>>342392129
Remember999 confirmed.
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>>342407750
It's sold over 47,000 copies in Japan. Sales around that range have spurred sequels for games that didn't even release overseas. And I doubt that Aksys's US sales numbers have a big impact in how much money Spike-Chunsoft makes, enough that they'd be the determining factor in whether to make a sequel or not.
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ITT: Memories

https://twitter.com/_crash_keys_
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hey

where's the cia
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