What went wrong
Bandai
>>342383478
there were more seasons after 1
>>342383478
Not nearly enoughRenamon Porn
Nothing. it serves it's purpose as a franchise aimed at children perfectly.
>>342383478
Instead of making more games like the first digimon world they made a bunch of really shitty rpgs and arena brawlers
This thread IS about videogames, right?
>>342383478
Should have stopped after Adventure initially. Do a movie once and awhile to keep the fans busy while only putting out card games, toys and merch.
What killed Digimon was more was less.
cyber sluts made things right
>>342383478
All games they made are either shit or mediocre at best. I regret paying more than 20 dor cybersleuth
Nothing went "wrong" persay. No franchise not named Pokemon can get a new audience every time, so eventually popularity will lessen over time.
The smartest thing the franchise did was realize that the fans who grew up with Digimon, still liked it, so it shifted more towards their tastes. And by tastes I mean titties.
>>342383851
>>342384245
>not wanting Tamers
>not wanting Savers
>not wanting Xros Wars
People like you make me sick. Not everything after Adventure was 02/Frontier level trash.
>>342383478
Frontier was the beginning of the end. While not necessarily terrible itself, the whole sentai shtick was out of place. Every following series was shit. Too many robots and anime tiddies.I seriously do not understand why people think 02 was so awful.
>>342385560
>While not necessarily terrible itself
Yes, it was. The problem wasn't sentai, it was that the plot was just fucking bad. Did we NEED to have our heroes job to Grumblemon for like 15 episodes in a row?
>Too many robots and anime tiddies.
You can never have too many
>I seriously do not understand why people think 02 was so awful.
Do you remember the final fight?
>>342385939
> You can never have too many
True, but you can in Digimon.
> Do you remember the final fight?
Sure, but that's hardly reason enough to condemn the whole thing. I mean Soul Eater's adaptation had a shit ending but the series overall was still alright. But I guess that's just me.
>>342384625
>Tamers
The only good thing from the franchise.
>>342386373
>A bad ending doesn't ruin the whole thing.
Mass Effect fans worldwide disagree.
>Still no Next Order western ps4 port
WHY? WHERE IS IT
>>342386569
Nigga, much as I hated 3's ending I still had an alright time playing through the rest. Even made me replay 1 and 2 a few times.
>>342384625
Didn't watched Xros Wars, but Savers was pretty bad
>>342386373
>True, but you can in Digimon.
I disagree >>342384625
>Sure, but that's hardly reason enough to condemn the whole thing.
It wasn't just that, it's just that the ending was the epitome of the problems with 02.
It has some positive elements, Ken and BlackWargreymon's story arcs receives a lot of praise for example, but there are also a lot of plot holes, over-glorifiying of the new Digimon, outside Ken the other main characters just aren't interesting, and of course there's the ever controversial epilogue to the series (SoraTai fans eternally butthurt). Also they tried to tie the canon in with the wonderswan games, which may or may not have made plot holes, but for most western fans it just meant a random guy showed up in a flashback.
Then there's stuff like dropped plotlines (Dagomon). It was far too episodic before DNA was introduced. And really the show is very obviously written by committee.
>>342386412
Did you even watch Xros Wars while it aired in Japan?
>>342386373
I think the whole thing was terrible, not just the end. In fact, I hate it more than Frontier.
>>342383478
Sony didn't buy the game rights and shove it down our throats like Nintendo did with Pokémon.
Over exploitation of season 1 success without caring for the future.
The series is good if you get on the japanese side of it though, tons of great stuff
>>342387084
>Over exploitation of season 1 success without caring for the future.
Hey just because Tri has terrible animation doesn't mean you need to condemn the whole thing.
>>342384625
>>342387408
Wasnt talking about tri at all, but I actually enjoy it and dont mind the animation, its average compared to any other seasonal anime. And better than some digimon seasons
>>342383478
sometimes it goes wrong, sometimes it goes right
If they had stuck to the V-Pet formula, it would've probably had a much bigger following, but they just keep trying to reinvent the franchise over and over, and the only time it goes well for them is when they actually go back to the original source material and stick to it.
Alas, they are too dumb to understand.
>>342387584
>Wasnt talking about tri at all
I know, but when you say "over exploitation of season 1 success", Tri is like the epitome of that
>>342387668
>and the only time it goes well for them is when they actually go back to the original source material and stick to it.
And when they just say "fuck it" to trying to get kids to like it and just make shit for the older fans.
>>342387668
>If they had stuck to the V-Pet formula
The series would have been dead for a while.
They stuck with it for as long as they could, there were a lot of vpets that were japan only.
Im looking forward to appmon more than I am to sun/moon so for me nothing went wrong.
>>342385939
I didn"t mind the first arc that much. But the show really started to become redundant when the Royal Knights showed up.
when it comes to games, they had to compete with pokemon which for the most important years was simply better in every possible way
>>342387865
I'm not just talking about the V-pet itself.
I'm referring to the franchise focusing on the good old human-digimon relationship, and basing all of their merchandise with the same spirit.
The franchise was at it's peak back in the early 2000, the card game was going strong, the animes were still somewhat popular, and they kept making new electronics. They should have just upgraded from there. (it's too bad the games kind of sucked after the first Digimon World, if they kept on improving that formula, at the very least the franchise could have attracted a loyal niche audience)
>>342385939
>Grumblemon
confirmed dub watcher
disregard opinion
>>342388706
Every series is at its core about monster-human relationships
They just ran out of ideas after adventure because really what else can you do? Adventure already perfected the formula in its first try, its only natural they tried to shift the focus for future series.
>>342388813
Let's face it, if I said Grottemon then 90% of /v/ would have no idea who I'm talking about.
It doesn't change that Frontier was terrible.
>>342388554
>But the show really started to become redundant when the Royal Knights showed up.
I didn't even want to bring that up.
Did they EVER beat those two? I mean yes, storywise it makes sense that the Royal Knights are basically unbeatable. That's the point of why the RK exist. But that's not fun to watch.
>>342389005
It kind of went to shit after Frontier, and the Savers era was a not very good attempt at getting things back on track.
Then Xros Wars came and shat all over everything.
>>342389713
>Then Xros Wars came and shat all over everything.
>>342389713
I didnt mind frontier, even enjoyed the train theme and it could have been so good if they focused on the humanoid vs animal digimon war
Savers was boring but still had good moments.
Xros wars I really enjoyed for some reason, I thought I was going to hate it and was surprised how much I liked it
Redigitize decode is a great game
Cyber slut is a good game
I heard N0 is bad though
But hey 2 out of 3 isnt bad at all, they seem to be doing fine
They didn't return to the DMW1 tamagochi format until nobody really gave a fuck about the series anymore and the only players left were millenials who think its too slow and shit and on a handheld that was more or less obsolete.
>>342383478
POCO TIEMPO HAY
PARA DOMINAR
LA VELOCIDAD
>>342386904
Xros Wars was great bar the young hunters arc.
You could cut it off and wrap Xros Wars in a neat little bow.
>>342384625
Frontier wasn't that bad
>>342393916
I think you need to rewatch it.
>>342394006
I rewatched it a few years ago, after not liking it much when I was a kid.
And it wasn't as bad as I remember.
It's no Adventure 01 or Tamers, mind
But it's not awful
>>342393306
>>342394159
>>342383478
Only two of the games were good, the cardgame was garbage and the anime was hit and miss.
Considering it was competing against a series that hit all three of those mediums perfectly from the get-go. where each one fed the popularity of the rest. Digimon was doomed from the start.
>>342383478
Not enough successful advertising in the west after season one ended.
>>342395814
>cardgame was garbage
US marketing of the franchise was fucking trash from the get go.
The Japanese card game was very popular, and lasted a good 7-8 years and is still sought after by collectors all over the world to this day.
the games are shittier than pokemon even thought the anime is much better
>>342383478
>What went wrong
No physical release for the Vita Cyber Sluts
>>342389090
>Did they EVER beat those two?
Only after the Digital World was destroyed and Lucemon was freed and even then Lucemon was the one who dealt the final blow
