Let's settle this.
Which one is better, tank or mech?
>>342380345
as long as its not a hover craft tank, walker.
mobility > speed
>>342380345
let's see which is better;
>tank,a military vehicle with artillery grade firepower & can go at high speeds
>mech, a walking tank that has better firepower than a tank & has better mobility
>reality
tank
>videogames
mechs are for weeb children, tanks are for grown ups
>>342381317
>mech
>has better firepower than a tank
>has better mobility
Source?
>>342381567
not him but if you question the mobility part, Im sure you dont understand why we walk on 2 legs then aswell.
>>342380345
Tank, since it's
>faster
>cheaper
>easier to mass produce
>higher cost-to-efficiency ratio
>>342381705
Why do we prefer to use vehicles instead of our own legs then?
check mate, atheist
>>342381705
You walk faster than wheels?
Tank beats Mech, but Mech does what a Tank do, but better except Anti-Armor.
>>342381909
>mobility means speed
uh
>>342381878
>Why do we prefer to use vehicles instead of our own legs then?
Spot the amerilad :^)
>>342381745
>easier to mass produce
This part wins wars. This is the reason why soviet tanks beat german tanks in WWII.
>>342382113
And the fact that they were under supplied.
And the russian winter.
And the whole with fighting at multiple borders at once.Who am I kidding, fucking t34
Assuming we talking about real life and not just bf2142 gameplay
the walker would essentially trade mobility for durability. it wouldn't take an absurdly powerful weapon to damage a joint of either leg, rendering the whole thing immobile.
And when I say mobility, that's all it is, mobility. The ability to traverse steeper, uneven terrains. We're definitely not talking about speed here, something regular tanks would be much better at.
Source : I graduated top of my class of the Bullshit Officer Training School of the Faketown USMC Military Base.
>>342380345
Mechs could have some use in crowd control and urban warfare and maybe some role in horrible terrain, but tank is just more robust, less complicated concept with less change to get fucked up by over engineering.
Or maybe this whole question is a trick?
I'll answer tank that transforms to a mech.
And what about the civilian vehicles?
>>342382465
These things are amazing, shame its hard to try it if you dont have a friend/company with one.
>>342381745
Tanks were none of those things when they were first introduced in World War 1, so thinking that a mecha will be any of that at the start is stupidity.
>>342381317
>mech, a walking tank
>>342382452
>it wouldn't take an absurdly powerful weapon to damage a joint of either leg, rendering the whole thing immobile
Same thing with hitting a tank on the treads, yet everyone is willing to overlook that part.
>>342383048
The exposed part of modern tank treads offers much less area than two big T H I C K walker legs
>>342383048
Break a tread, the tank is stopped, maybe. It can also still shoot.
Break a mechs leg, it falls on its face and is useless
>RL
tank, the idea of walker is absurd
>vidya
walkers all the way
>>342383048
If a tank loses a thread, you've got a bunker until it's safe enough to go outside and repair it. If a mech loses a leg, it's a pile of scrap once it hits the ground.
>>342382912
>Treads are for bad roads
Yeah just look how German tanks could easily travel along the eastern front
Fucking Kojima
>>342383310
it loses it big selling point if being a a heavy mobile firepower. Might as well use artillery instead
>>342380345
Power armour beats both
If both have the same tonnage, the tank would win hands down as long as the mech can't jump.
The only mechs that would actually be superior to tanks would be basically giant super acrobatic humans like Jehuty or Snufflesophacus.
youre a fucking mongoloid autist if you think the answer isnt tank
>>342383571
Mud and swamps is bad news for anything that doesn't fly. Even Genghis Khan had to detour because of it.
>>342383810
That's a big tank
>>342380345
Tanks were better in 2142 so...
>>342384258
For the Emperor nothing but the best.
Also that's a scout tank.
>>342384236
Still doesn't change the fact that Kojima should pick up a book or two.
>>342380345
why was BF2142 the best battlefield
>>342384415
I said "that's a big tank"
Walkers would be better in certain situations but honestly a tank walker hybrid would be more feesable than a tank.
>>342384303
Imagine being a human and eating that shell right in your leg
>>342384476
You know it, big is best.
>>342384690
I wanted my "for you" you prick
fucking asshole robbed me of a meme.
>>342384690
get this hothead out of here
>>342384783
Hehehe.
>>342380345
>tank or mech?
The holy union known as Spidertank is the master race.
>>342384438
>walkers
>hover tanks
>great guns
>launch pods
>TITAN MODE
>last great FPS of the golden age of PC games
BF2142 was nearly perfect.
>>342384783
He is an hero to us all
Well. An Armored core from for answer could beat any tank in any game. So my answer is mech.
>>342385023
I don't know how bf4 is but I couldn't stand bf3's netcode and bazillions weapons that mostly feel the same.
Just give me a few, wildly different but solid weapons with little customization per loadout and I'm good.
>>342385023
Yet they refuse to make another. They just go backwards in time hoping everyone likes it.
>>342385290
>I don't know how bf4 is but I couldn't stand bf3's netcode and bazillions weapons that mostly feel the same.
You would hate BF4 then. There are so many fucking more guns it's retarded. Yet people only use a select few.
>>342382896
Tanks were still better at their job than the conventional ground AFV of the time, the armored car.
That's why they built and used them. Because right from day 1 they were better than what they already had at the task they needed doing.
If a mech can't compete with normal vehicles at some niche right out of the gate, they'll never be made.
Assuming every problem with real life mechs are solved, I'd say mechs. Mechs have a better view of the battlefield, they could probably carry more specialized weapons than tanks can, they're more imposing to enemy forces.
But drones beat them both, so it's not really a question anymore.
>Which one is better
When it comes to real life warfare, tank. Mechs don't even exist IRL, excepting the Kurata.
When it comes to videogame fun, mech. Tanks can only roll and shoot. Mechs can jump, fly, shoot, melee, which makes gameplay more varied.
It ain't that hard, man.
>>342386002
What about a drone tank controlling a mech?
>>342386215
It's like you haven't even watched Gundam Wing. They lose to teenagers every time.
>>342386536
Okay, what about a teenager in a mech controlling a tank in a mech?
>>342382359
t-34 was an unreliable piece of low-budget shit designed for blind 3 foot tall soviet mole men.
fun fact: the only half way decent tank in WW2 was the Sherman. this is an objective fun fact.
>>342386002
>Mechs have a better view of the battlefield
install periscope, get all the advantages of being tall with none of the drawbacks. 99% of the time, you want to be short when people are shooting at you.
>they could probably carry more specialized weapons than tanks can
Why? There are tanks with regular cannons, autocannon, missile launchers, machine guns, hell, even a few with all of those at the same time.
Most just come with a big cannon and machine guns because those have been tried and true optimal "take all comers" weapons. a big cannon can penetrate just about any armor, and can have a variety of shells for different purposes, while a machine gun can kill anything not worth throwing a cannon shell at.
>>342386667
No. Gundam Wing made it clear that in order to have a warrior's spirit you have to be risking your life and if you don't have a warrior spirit you'll never beat someone that does.
Somebody post that one anime webm where a squad of tanks shoots down like three or four mechs down from the sky like it's nothing.
>>342380345
Tank
>cheap to mass produce in comparison to mechs
>not as versatile armament wise but can be easily fitted for the situation
>generally faster on terrain
>tech is fully understood and is easy to repair and maintain in relation to mechs
Mech
>lots more options for weaponry due to "slots"
>lots of complicated moving parts that would require a lot more maintenance
>legs are a critical weakness
>better at navigating uneven terrain
>should be generally slower threads>feet
>would very likely be cost prohibitve
Mechs are cool but are generally impractical in real life, in a real war scenario it would just get swarmed by anti armor tanks/infantry and vehicles and be a huge fire magnet for aircraft
tanks are a smooth ride anon.
Imagine the extra effort that has to go into a mech just to make sure it doesn't disorientate and/or kill it's pilot by just walking.
>>342383810
>Mechs would lose because they can't jump
>>342385004
How did that tank manage to shoot straight down?
>>342387508
>pilot in the head
>mech trips
>pilot is now a pancake on the windscreen
>>342387207
>>342385023
You forgot these.
And the Baur is still the most awesome AR ever conceived.
>>342387685
/thread
>>342387297
>due to "slots"
>cheap to mass produce in comparison to mechs
I don't see why these couldn't apply to either.
Really this debate is just legs vs. treads, rather than mechs vs. tanks.
>>342387297
>tanks
>not as versatile armament wise
what the fuck are you putting on a mech that can't be put on a tank?
>better at navigating uneven terrain
based on what? tanks can't trip over themselves, roll an ankle, or sink 4 meters into the ground because your 200,000 ton mech only has 2 teenie weenie feet to disperse all that weight.
>>342386683
>the only half way decent tank in WW2 was the Sherman.
If you like being on fire.
>>342387685
Pray tell, what is this from?
Thanks in advance.
>>342388057
>what the fuck are you putting on a mech that can't be put on a tank?
A sword!
>>342388087
early war shermans caught fire at the same rate as everyone else, and mid-late war shermans rarely caught fire ever.
>what is wet ammo storage
>MFW Empire lost AT-AT's to some cheap Rebel shit airspeeders with tow cables
>>342385004
Fucking amazing. Got any more?
We all know giant mechs are not viable
but how about power armor?
Battletech makes Mechs practical, but in the setting the scale is fucking huge (transporting 12 mechs and pilots is easier than shipping an army through space), and the mechs themselves are the only platforms large enough to tote around the fusion generators that power them (which means they get way bigger and nastier energy weapons than conventional vehicles).
But yeah beyond that mechs don't really confer a lot of tactical advantage if we're talking real warfare.
>>342388425
why did the AT-AT armor stop working when they face planted?
>>342387853
I mean I could post a clip of a dude in armored core wiping out entire platoons of shitty tanks.
>>342386683
>t-34 was an unreliable piece of low-budget shit designed for blind 3 foot tall soviet mole men.
Yes and see how that worked out.
>>342388249
>implications
>>342388485
Power armor where we're actually going.
Over the history of modern war, more and more money has been spent on each individual soldier, and the death rates of individual soldiers have dropped accordingly. It is mind-blowing to me that if a single soldier dies overseas, we hear about it on the news.
There's already powered exoskeletons being developed to assist soldiers with heavy lifting. Actual power armor will arrive eventually.
>>342388734
DRIVE ME CLOSER
I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
>>342388710
>early soviet eugenics program to rid the motherland of manlets
truly stalin was ahead of his time.
>>342388610
AC possess a fictional thing called primal armor and assault armor.
why put primal armor on a mech if you can use it on a tank too
>>342388832
>Actual power armor will arrive eventually.
But it won't be like anything in video game though.
Tanks are better in almost every single way
But mechs have rule of cool.
>>342388995
Only Armored Cores are good enough to harness Kojima particle thingamajig.
>>342388832
just imagine when we get something like this shooting something like a rail gun at tanks and other armored vehicles
>>342388995
The reactors are big enough that it's more practical to just make a mech. A tank would have to fly to be practical in that universe anyway with the speed things move at.
>>342389157
>like a rail gun
Dont we already have Railguns but uneconomical as fuck?
>>342389274
We do, we just havent figured out how to make them stop melting the barrels after three shots.
>>342380345
Tanks are better, mechs are cooler
/thread
>>342384424
Doesn't change the fact treads are good for bad roads.
>>342388057
>what the fuck are you putting on a mech that can't be put on a tank?
unless were talking about baneblades or some other fictional tanks,modern tanks typically have 1 main gun a combination of mg's maybe a missle or rocket system
of course you can mount similar weapons to tanks but if we go by some mechwarrior designs you can put basically everything on a mech
also should have clarified, uneven terrain as in mountainous and very rocky
I'm not favoring mechs here tanks are the objectively better choice
>>342389358
>>342389274
ace combat chandelier when?
>>342389274
i heard the US does but its nothing amazing...
like they were able to achieve the same results with traditional gunpower guns (hard to belive imo)
A mech would lose in a match of Panzerfahren.
>>342388113
>>342384667
Hydrodynamics says "what leg?" and then some.
>>342389489
its the anon with terrible taste, hows it going shit taste anon?
>>342389489
that is the most retarded thing I have ever seen. And I've seen a lot of anime.
>stalker exos here we come
cant wait
>>342389489
>tank drifting without losing speed
WHAT THE FUCK?
>FUN
mech
>REALISM
tank
there's nothing wrong with both, my little anons.
Mecha all the way bitches.
>>342389203
>Not making tanks that fly
>>342389157
>I are sirius squad
>this are sirius thread
>>342387885
>I don't see why these couldn't apply to either.
imagine just how much maintenance a several meter tall walker would need, the costs of developing a reliable computer system for navigation and movement, the power source that it would to need not to mention how easy it would be to bring down compared to a bunker on wheels as cool as they are they would be highly impractical as you said legs vs treads mechs are technically just walking tanks
>>342389671
You're right. Mechs would be completely outclassed.
about the railgun problem
"The Navy’s futuristic electric cannon, or railgun, received yet more hype this week for its ability to fire a shell at up to 5,600 miles per hour, and do it far more cheaply than a missile. But there’s a daunting reality behind the hype: the Pentagon is already looking past the railgun to a less power-intensive, more easily deployable alternative. The railgun rounds can be fired from more conventional cannons, giving the same capability sooner and cheaper."
>http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/04/Navy-Abandoning-Railgun
Mechs under 11ft>Tanks>Mechs over 11ft
>>342380345
Mechas are cooler and therefore the best.
>>342389397
You can put all our weapon systems on trucks or tank/tread bodies. It is a concept of Zerg. Lose one, only lose one weapon. Lose a mech and just go fuck yourself right off planetside.
The mech argument has a real shot in hell of working when it isn't trying to compete against tanks but instead is playing some heavy infantry variant.
But we all knew that.
>>342383810
Why is that image so fucking blurry you cunt
>>342380345
To wreck a mech you need only disable legs, if it falls it is pretty much useless.
Tank can be still deadly without any mobility.
>>342390019
>The railgun rounds can be fired from more conventional cannons, giving the same capability sooner and cheaper."
What. I thought railgun rounds are just chunks of metal you accelerate, because thats all you need to hit through armor.
>>342390279
>disable canon
>what now
>>342390405
Im going to drive closer and hit you with my sword
>>342390405
>>disable canon
>>what now
Well now only fanfic remains.
>>342390351
>>342380345
In fiction, anything can be anything, so the question is nonsensical in that context.
In reality, bipedal multistory mechs would be unable to walk at all, so the answer is obvious.
>>342390405
We become pillbox.
>>342390643
>this is all gone forever
>now we have WW1 with muslim women war leaders wielding swords and fighting together with literal niggers
Thank you Sweden.
For Ishtar you gaylords!
>>342390405
>>342390860
We can still transport troops/supplies.
If we're talking in real life, I'd take a tank over a Walker anytime of the day.
Shit's just ain't reliable, let alone be possible, and let's not talk about Japanese-type mecha.
>It is a concept of Zerg.
that's why I said mech's were impractical, they'd just get swarmed and the cost of replacing one is cost prohibitve
>>342391001
You äre Welcöm :^)
METAL GEAR
>>342391428
The tanks are the zerg. The mecha is the lone protoss warrior who's human bro will fucking forget about the first chance he gets at railing his murderer.
>>342389978
I'm not one to go mad over the shit you see in anime but this one is pushing it.
>>342391908
It's fun.
>>342392040
>>342392040
I still haven't seen the movie yet.
>>342380345
If you ever choose mechs, you're a fucking retard. Name one (1) fucking setting with mechs that does not require some hamfisted "science" to make them viable. Whenever mechs appear in fiction and are better than tanks it's thanks to having some "totally not magic guys, I swear" superscience that for some fucking reason can't be applied to tanks/airplanes. It's disgusting
>>342392040
PHYSICS
>>342392709
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE
>>342392040
Hahahahaha holy fuck
>>342390643
>that intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4wEAO07hM
>>342380345
a mechtank
or a tankmech
>>342388593
Reactor was destabilized. Ion shots from. The speeder caused an electric discharge inside the AT-AT hull that caused the explosion.
Real question is why Rebel troops were running towards it when it could have just shat troops out at them, and they were supposed to be in full retreat.
>>342392040
I heard this is based on a real life battle too, apparently this was used once?
>>342392040
>>342389978
>>342389489
two nukes weren't enough.
>>342392871
He wanted to loot the corpses? Get a kill with his knife?
>>342392796
best version of the theme
>>342392618
BWWAAAAAAAA!!!
>>342392901
Don't be stupid, anon. It's just a cartoon.
>>342393057
Nah, /pol/ would have sided with Japan simply because Japan was allied with the Germans.
>>342392618
Good luck fighting in space with tanks.
>>342392040
>>342393069
>exoskeleton
>doesn't even protect the squishy parts
Gee wiz, what could possibly go wrong?
Tanks can come in a various amount of sizes and shapes, a mech has to walk, so mechs.
>>342393221
See the part about magic
>>342393208
/pol/ hates anime
How many moving parts must a mech have? Like 10s of thousands right?
How many moving parts does a tank need? 3
The two tracks and the turret.
This is why tanks will always be better.
>>342393221
>Says earthnoid's souls are weighed down by gravity
>puts legs on their space fighters
zeon, ladies and gentlemen.
also
>>342389921
>>342393128
Watched it a few days ago, great movie.
>>342393591
>puts legs on their space fighters
Heard you talking shit.
>>342392796
>todays gamers would find it too hard to understand and complete all the objectives necessary to destroy a titan in 2142
i play dirty bomb occasionally and god damn some people just cannot comprehend specific objectives short of "kill the other team"
>>342393498
>/pol/ hates anime
>twitter world now associates anime with Trump thanks to /pol/
>>342392040
>People believe 100% this is what tanks do
Hahahahahah holy fucking shit anime can be cancer sometimes hahahahah this is fucking embarassing what the fuck holy shit ahahhahahahah
>>342393893
>the anime meme candidate is now Trump
Where has the time gone? Hold me, lads
>>342392796
>you will never re-live the glory days of PC gaming
RIP 00s
>>342393221
He said no hamfisted "science"
The only reason mobile suits in gundam are viable is due to minovsky particles
>>342393892
I miss those pro ass teams you get in 2142.
The moment of seeing a Titan's shields go down they are in and busting generators.
Then the glorious escape.
>>342393591
It's for extra mobility.
Legs serve as directional thrusters.
multiple crewmen > single pilot
>>342394329
two pilot mecha is a deal breaker for me
literally makes me want to shit
I prefer tank over mecha because inside tanks, there is something mecha don't have.Friends.
If we ever get mechs then I think they'd probably be slightly larger then human sized with a focus on mobility. Something like the Walker Gears in MGSV or Bastion in Overwatch. They'd be used for urban combat, clearing rooms and enclosed spaces where it'd be dangerous or impossible for the enemy to take them out. Right now room clearing pretty much guarantees that the first man in is going to get shot, hopefully in the plate and not the face. If they sent in a hunk of steel with a few guns on it and the ability to deal with stairs and obstacles, then the terrorists would have little they could do against it. Cant use anti tank weapons in an enclosed space unless you want to kill everybody or at least receive horrible blast injuries, and from the stuff Boston Dynamics has been showing us it looks like tripping or knocking over one of these would be pretty hard. Maybe if they had some very heavy gun in there that could pierce the armor and hit something vital, but the military is really good at redundancy and bulletproofing.
>>342394439
Your mecha is the only friend you need.
>>342392040
Who watches this shit
I'm serious
Even kids would find this embarrassing
>>342387621
See how the clouds are sideways in the first scene? It's firing upwards.
Hint: From the top corner, the "A" in "MACS" stands for "artillery".
>>342394428
>>342394561
>have giant walking machine of destruction
>have it manned by only one faggot
Plebes get out
>>342394238
>camp gibralter
>attackers stuck at the usual spot in front of the wall
>that one glorious bastard of a squad leader who could get behind enemy lines, lay down a squad beacon, take a flag, and completely break the stalemate
being a squad leader is too much pressure for me
>>342394428
unfortunately its objectively superior but way less cool
>>342394837
too big
>>342388832
You can buy civilian versions of that thing for like four or five grand over in Asia. They can curl a hundred pounds, though Im not sure if thats per arm or not, just on the motor. Also have a three hour battery life. So with some dosh and a welding torch you could make some clunky power armor right now.
>>342394714
Weebs
>>342393807
Wasn't it going to have legs, but they ran out of time and cashmoney?
>>342394267
You know what else serves as directional thrusters?
Directional thrusters.
>>342394895
FOR YOUr mom maybe
>>342389456
They have one that can shoot something like 17 miles from 0 elevation. Its pretty new, and is still goddamn enormous.
>>342394949
DELETE THIS
>>342394837
Hello again Warhammer. Thanks for making Anime look reasonable you fucks.
I wonder if mechas would get stuck in glorious Soviet mud
>>342380345
Mechs are cooler, tanks are more practical.
>>342394714
More realistic than giant robots flying around.
>>342395372
Get fucked weeaboos
>>342389978
>Kay takes it three-way
I ain't even mad.
>>342394837
>tfw cant tell if satire or an actual thing
fucking 40k
>>342380345
Tanks are real, so I'll go with whatever actually exists.
>>342394865
>Way in the back of Camp Gibraltar
>Just me and some other chump
>We're not even in the same squad
>Suddenly entire enemy squad seems to materialize out of thin air
>We cover each over even pulling off moves that make those slow-mo moments of Army of Two look like easy shit
>At the end 10 enemies lie dead
>Just look at each other
>Nod
>And keep going
It was fucking surreal.
>>342380345
Tanks. Mechs the way we think of them are the dumbest idea ever. They are essentially easier to hit tanks that are nowhere near as maneuverable that also cost a lot more. A mech may potentially have better mobility, but again only on a more standard ground environment. What a fucking waste.
BUT, mechs exist in this day and age in things like drones. Why make a thing with fucking legs when it not having legs will make it that much better? Like I understand why arms so it can carry stuff, but legs are the dumbest fucking thing. Robots are fucking robots the more human you try to make it the more impractical it becomes and the weaker it is at its primary function.
>>342382359
>And the whole with fighting at multiple borders at once.
The russians was beating the Germans way before D-day. Unless you count the fight in north africa.
Tanks are basically mechs that actually work.
>>342395575
>mechs
>cool
>>342395452
>bourgeios western extravagance
>russian roads
What do you think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DljgSrTbNE
>>342380345
Mechs should have aircraft tier mobility to have a true role.
I don't understand this obsession in trying to compare them with tanks.
Do you compare tanks with aircrafts? Their roles are completely different
>>342394086
>Hahahahahah holy fucking shit anime can be cancer sometimes hahahahah this is fucking embarassing what the fuck holy shit ahahhahahahah
Jesus fucking Christ
>>342386683
>fun fact: the only half way decent tank in WW2 was the Sherman
t. history pro
Someone give me some good tank games
I'm sick and tired of having to play for a month to unlock a single tank without paying in War Thunder
>>342395985
What's mech role then?
>>342395783
I think power armor/walker mechs ala Lost Planet 2 would be useful for dense areas such as jungles and cities. Maybe you can make a case for underwater combat but that's unlikely going to be useful. Other than that tanks and other traditional military vehicles will do the job.
>>342385004
>That pinpoint accuracy on the guard tower
Fucking Christ I'd hate to be infantry in this day and age.
>>342395618
Should I have said you make DC comics look reasonable instead? Cause you're that shit. Bottom of the barrel trash.
>>342394837
>Not posting best traitor titan that made Collegia Titanica shit bricks n lose most of titan battlegroups,literally forcing them to kamikaze tactic.
>>342395830
Don't you greentext me slut, mechs are practically the definition of cool
>Those Girls&Panzer webm
What the fuck I don't remember the series being this awesome
>>342381705
I'd really like to see wheels evolve.
>>342396264
Being in a tank isn't much more fun when you take a look at high-end AT equipment.
At least you can hide as infantry but everyone wants your ass dead when you're in a tincan
>>342380345
Tanks are practical and cool.
Mechs are fucking cool.
Rule of cool is stronger than realism in fiction.
>>342396337
Stay mad faglord
>>342396353
>>342396529
>mechs are cool
"no"
>>342396472
Yup, a tank is basically a mobile coffin if you're up against half-decent forces.
Zoids are the most realistic futuristic mecha the human body is flawed
>>342380345
Mech can carry a giant Katana.
Mech > Tank
Now they need to make a tank with a Katana gun, and it spins its turret real fast and slices other tanks and mechs in half. Only way to make tanks better.
>>342396548
Calm down.
>Only recent tank games are F2P multiplayer only garbage
>pretty much no recent mech games
>Space sims still dead, and the people trying to revive them keep trying to make massively multiplayer online only universe simulation shit like E:D and Scam Citizen.
niggas please. I may be autistic enough to want those genres, but I ain't autistic enough for this shit. Give me missions with customizable loadouts and I'll be happy.
>>342396652
It'll take more than that, chummer.
Tanks, easily.
Playing Armored Warfare, the highest tier tanks have shit like 1000mm of fucking penetration from KILOMETERS away. What in the sweet fuck.
Also, they can fire goddamn missiles, thermobaric rounds, etc...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1b8wh2Ul4
>Tanks are death traps
The US has never lost a modern battle tank.
>anything but battleships
Air superiority was a mistake, we have to turn back time
>>342396896
>That poor dummy at 0:15
Did they have to fire it at his crotch?
>>342396916
>1st world country curbstomping insurgents and bumfuck 3rd worlders for the past 3 decades
I'm an American too man but that's just a dumb argument.
>>342395452
You'd need a lot of mud for that.
>>342395830
>western extravagance
But they are eastern Ivan
>>342393221
>FZ
Ah, hamburger grade.
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>>342396201
Slow mechs are basically retarded and tanks can fill the same role as them, yes.
Mechs flying at twice the speed of sound while having the ability to stop midair or even land on any type of place is a completely different beast and tanks would have no chance in hell against them.
Before starting this kind of thread OP should at least specify what kind of mech he means.
>>342396916
>The US has never lost a modern battle tank.
>>342396916
The U.S. isn't the only country operating tanks.
>>342396924
Yeah, battleships should come back so they can get raped by fucking ballistic missiles. We're already outfitting destroyers with railguns. We don't need battleships.
>>342396652
Are you some kind of favela child, who grew up not knowing the joy of robot fights?
I'm sad for you honestly
>>342397065
>Mechs flying at twice the speed of sound while having the ability to stop midair or even land on any type of place is a completely different beast and tanks would have no chance in hell against them.
Yeah, but if your mechs can do that, why wouldn't your tanks not be able to do the same? That's always the argument with mecha shows, if the mech has bullshit super-advanced tech, then why don#t the other weapon systems as well?
>>342397275
>wasting ballistic missiles on battleships when you can just fuck them up with a plane
>>342397275
>>342397465
>Yeah, battleships should come back so they can get raped by fucking ballistic missiles
Did you read even a single word of what I wrote?
>>342397456
>#
Geh ins Bett, Bernd
Aircraft.
>>342390351
>>342390019
I thought one of the main attractions of naval railguns was that you don't need to haul around a magazine of potentially self-destructive shells.
What's the point of firing them conventionally then?
>Tanks vs Mechs
Mechs should only fight other Mechs
>>342396472
In a city, a tank is a deathtrap, sure.
But in a city, being infantry is a death sentence. Infantry take higher percentage losses than armor in cities. Having armor on your side in urban combat dramatically increases the survival rate of infantry.
A tank can basically lock down an entire street in front of it, with relatively little to fear from man portable weapons. To engage it, the enemy has to get to it's sides or rear or top. Urban terrain makes that very easy to do when vehicles are driving around unsupported, but when moving slowly with the infantry, it makes enemy moves really predictable.
>Tanks
>Mechs
Gunships.
>>342393221
It's almost like threes a type of Tank in space or something.
I think it's called a "Space Ship".
>>342397586
Nein, ich kann nichts für meine kaputte Tastatur
>>342397574
I did and I just told you that a BM is wasted on a shitty battleship that can't do anything to you anyway
>>342380345
I like both.
>the tank squad in muvluv that would go in knowing they were nothing but Beta chow
>>342397757
No, my orginal post was about battleships. It contained the words 'Air superiority was a mistake'. So both of your arguments, about bm's as well as planes are kind of retarded
>>342397893
Just because you post the "X was a mistake" meme means I'm not allowed to call you out how much of a waste a BM against a BB is?
>>342397075
>Tank literally has an iraqi flag painted on it
Really, nigger?
not that the US hasn't lost a number of Abrams tanks, mostly to buried explosives.
I think the strongest statement you could make like that is "The US has never lost a complete Abrams tank CREW to direct enemy fire"
What about a tank that turns into a mech?
>>342398081
Do you have mental deficiency? I didn't make the post about bm's you mouthbreather.
>>342397691
I think the Russians gave a perfect example on how to fuck up immensely with tanks in a city and I'm pretty sure it was Grozny during the First Chechen war. If I was gonna be in a tank I'd only get into it if it was NATO driven.
>>342398162
what about a mech on a tank
>>342397574
I ready
>Battleships
>Bring back
And that was enough. Battleships are fucking done as a concept.
>>342397465
Yeah, because that thing won't be defended by other ships. Anti-ship missiles or torpedos are actually preferred over just sending an aircraft.
>>342398220
Not sure how you expected me to know that
Anyway allow me to respond properly then
>Air superiority was a mistake
No it wasn't, and just because you like jerking off about shitty outdated ship designs, your opinion isn't worth shit
