THEY RESPONDED TO THE ALLEGATIONS
https://www.g2a.co/tinyBuild-fraud-allegation-g2a-statement
>>342366342
Eh, I still don't trust G2A but Tinybuild has been always trying to use idiotic tactics to attract attention, if I'm not mistaken they had a gmae that would only be unlocked to the public after a twitch faggot managed to beat it
tinycucks BTFO
>>342366342
>Why did tinyBuild refer only to the highest price point in their product history? While on the real market you can buy their products in a bundle on an 85% off discount as sourced from https://steamdb.info/app/207140/,
https://isthereanydeal.com/. Finding a better medium price here would give a true overview. TinyBuild should explain to the media why they omitted their sales data from the revenue projection.
That's pretty good
indieshit shovelware faggots btfo
I remember Punch Club
>Game comes out
>Dev is shilling game on 4chan throwing insults at people that talk bad about his game
>Proud it was on Steam front page and getting attention
>Obviously a shit indie game
>Doesnt sell
>Dev tries some kind of stolen key scam on a middle man
>>342366594
And you absolutely shouldn't
I bought xcom 2 off G2A and had my credit card details used for fraud with $700 worth of purchases made, and I'm absolutely certain it was G2A because I literally only use my card for my phone bills and steam.
Buying off G2A was an experiment and I almost got fucked over on it.
>>342367450
i really doubt that, don't spread shit that isn't true. g2a is a great service that's needed in this modern digital economy.
>>342366342
G2A is great, always buy my games there and haven't ran into any troubles.
Tinybuild is probably just fishing for sympathy, they know G2A aint popular among the liberal gamers.
>>342366342
TinyBuild BTFO.
They're basically trying to get free money by spreading misinformation and playing the victim.
>>342367450
Proof or it didn't happen.
I bought 14 games off G2A and never had any trouble with them.
>>342368131
1 yuan has been deposited in your account.
>>342367450
>not using paypal
You deserved it.
g2a still shady as hell fuck em
>>342367450
I don't understand why anyone would give their CC to a grey market site like that, if you don't wanna buy the game off steam why wouldn't you just pirate it and not pay anything? It seems kinda retarded to me
g2a is good. theyre very high quality, innovative, etc. that indie dev is full of shit, probably a leftist causing drama because they want social engineering to happen. as usual.
>>342368562
>>342368131
>shilling for a black market scam site that rips off the devs, the sellers and the consumers
>nobody involved with G2A is safe other than G2A
literally kill yourself you disgusting third world niggers
>>342368851
Gee, I wonder why.
>>342368898
Just the devs, actually, and that's perfectly fine in my book.
G2A are shady as fuck but cheap and surprisingly reliable.
The darling indiefucks can go die in a ditch though.
FUCKING BASED
>>342368898
>posting accusations without proof
>expecting people to just believe you
Calm down, Shlomo Goldstein.
>>342368974
He asked why you would give them your CC number, not why you would use their service.
>>342369078
>if you don't wanna buy the game off steam why wouldn't you just pirate it and not pay anything
>>342369068
you know who's more reliable and trustworthy than G2A? straight up torrenting games for free, that way only the devs/publishers lose out and you're not feeding money into the pockets of snowniggers and chinks
>>342368817
>>342368982
They're not really shady, they're just your average grey market reseller. They buy up keys cheaply from bundles, third world markets, etc. and resell them to the customer. They catch a lot of flak because they've become the most well-known of these type of sites, but there's really nothing shady or illegal about what they do.
>>342369243
nah, devs and publishers are still the only ones losing out by using G2A and the people making those devs lose out get paid for it. Seems fair to me.
>>342368851
It may have been retarded to do it but it should also tell you they can't be trusted with your patronage.
>>342369068
>countless interviews with devs on resellers fucking them
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/PaulKilduffTaylor/20150925/254656/The_Key_Masters_Reselling_and_the_Games_Industry.php
>>342366342
The absolute MADMEN
>buy game for a friend
>it goes trough
>he redeems it without a problem
>buy game for myself, same vendor
>code doesn't work
>didn't paid for their shitty scamshield
>told the vendor
>he says im trying to scam him
>told G2A
>you didn't bought the shield :^)
>revoked the payment directly with my bank
im never buying from that shady site again.
I would like to see proof of people's games getting taken away or these fraudulent charges people get. Otherwise it's just bullshit made up by some dev shill angry he's not getting all the money he possibly could.
I've been buying off of g2a and kinguin for years without any issues. I've even bought at least a dozen games from nuuvem a fucking Brazilian site with no issues.
>>342369342
>oy vey g2a are the good guys! duplicate keys are your own fault goy, absolutely no refunds.
>oh and don't forget to use your cc instead of paypal so we can commit some extra fraud on top
hello slav scum))
>>342369326
They're shady because they buy keys no questions asked even with thousands of stolen keys. Hey they sell insurance for a reason.
>>342369243
>and you're not feeding money into the pockets of snowniggers and chinks
Unless you find one of those fun bitcoin miners that do indeed feed money into the pockets of snowniggers and chinks.
>>342369326
Pretty much but some of their keys are from some seriously shady places. And they're woefully inconsistent, at one time, games were more expensive there than Steam. This leads most people to assume they steal the keys when/where they can.
>>342369461
Let me tell you what your problem was - you didn't buy from a trusted seller. You have only yourself to blame.
>>342369471
Devs always lose out on revenue when you buy from G2A, so it's not surprised that the only indie game circlejerk (reddit et al) hate G2A so much.
>>342369508
actually they engorge paypal with paypal exclusive sales.
>>342366342
While G2A is shady as fuck they sure BTFO tinynigs
>>342369412
Oh boy, more angry indie kikes! That will prove anything!
Friendly reminder that reselling products you own is a consumer right, and the jews trying to stop it are basically saying they don't want you to own the games you pay for.
>>342369572
>>342369572
holy shit G2A devs have literally NO shame
I was with them until
>offers award-winning protection solutions with G2A Shield.
>>342369508
>oy vey, we're losing out on income because everyones getting the game way, way cheaper
>best make up some bullshit allegation so some liberal redditor can parrot us all day long
good goy
>>342367450
I dunno m8 I've been using grey market sites for ages and nothing ever happened to me.
Granted, I never actually gave them my CC info and only used PayPal so that may be a factor too
>>342369689
>lel jewz!1
you don't own games you purchase a license for limited us. The resell rights of that license is limited to your country's laws and the terms of service.
>mfw 90% of problems with G2A comes from stupid people buying from obviously untrustworthy vendors or buying region locked games marked as such and wondering why they can't register them
In my one problem I had with G2A, when 2K recalled Civ5 keys, G2A refunded me in full within minutes.
>>342369572
except i did, he had around 30k sales.
kek, fuck Tinybuild. I personally don't like the risk G2A poses, so I don't buy from them personally, but slandering them like Tinybuild did is just fucking ridiculous.
>>342368564
its a polish website...
>https://www.trustpilot.com/review/g2a.com
>Check all the legit 1 star reviews
>All those botted 5 star reviews
>Suddenly G2A desperately replying to as many negative reviews as they can since they got exposed
LMAO g2a on full damage control
tinybuild are fucking awful but at least they have done 1 good deed in their lifetimes by exposing these chink thieves
>Own open air mall
>Clients sell bootleg merch
>"oh well should have bought our protection plan"
This shit reminds me of cons that don't police their dealers areas.
>>342369808
Its technically not legal to sell used games like gamestop does but they do and nobody gives a fuck besides devs.
>>342369510
>>342369540
They've never sold stolen keys though. If they did, they'd already be out of business. The reason nobody has gone after them yet is because they have no legal cause to do so. That's why you get these slander stories in the media: Because the only way to stop them is to scare gullible people away from them.
The sensationalist "G2A sells stolen keys" stories the media loves are actually people selling stolen keys through G2A's market place, which is indeed a problem, but blaming G2A for that is like blaming Craigslist for people trying to sell stolen smartphones.
>people unironically defending G2A
If you buy from them, you're a retard.
Literally better to pirate games.
>>342369990
CD Key resellers been a stain for decades since people used to sell bootleg games on cd.
>>342370025
>Its technically not legal to sell used games like gamestop does
Um, no, anon, it is.
do not care
still going to buy games from g2a since it's way cheaper than even steam sales
>>342370094
Denuvo means this is the future.
>>342370029
>The reason nobody has gone after them yet is because they have no legal cause to do so.
Even if they did, good fucking luck finding anyone in eastern europe if they really want to hide.
>>342367450
tinyBuild, please. There is no reason to make up lies like this on the internet.
>>342369990
Literally the only complaints are about shield which if you're not a windowlicker it's not hard to Just not subscribe to it or use it.
Anyone bought doom on kinguin? Is it legit? Should I pay for the shield?
>>342370029
technically they are selling stolen keys in a lot of cases. slavniggers steal credit cards, buy a bunch of keys and then resell the keys through g2a
>>342369853
I'm with you completely m8, I'm pretty sure everyone who had their CC information stolen is retarded or has no street smarts whatsoever.
>>342370120
why buy at all?torrent is free, and just as ok
>>342370303
Cool story, bro.
Do you always believe things people on the internet tell you without proof?
>>342370004
they never sell bootleg/fake keys, but stolen ones. they require you to verify that the keys are real with scans and receipt if you sell a bunch
does not protect from stolen shit or used keys, which is the problem most of the time
>>342370094
>Literally better to pirate games
pirated games will not update automatically and have mp
I have only had one bad purchase from about twenty, it was some shitty game for like 2 euros, i didnt get the shield and support refunded me in a few minutes
>>342369891
>Hong Kong address literally on their homepage.
"Polish"
>>342370312
>victim blaming
Get the fuck out.
>>342370118
It's a grey area to retard developers who think they're selling a licence, not a product, and that the EULA means something. Devs and publishers try and claim the likes of Gamestop have no right to transfer licences, but people do it anyway. It's why Valve are constantly in and out of court in EU over refunds on Steam. They try and claim the "No transfer of a licence" bullshit, but courts see it as a product, not a service.
>>342370316
Torrenting games is illegal. Using G2A isn't, no matter how much the jews would like you to believe otherwise.
>>342370253
Kinguin is exactly like G2A, a gray market reseller.
http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-doom-4-cd-key-compare-prices/
Apparently CDKeys.com is the cheapest, so you buy from them through Paypal and if you're so worried you're going to get an invalid key you simply ask for your money back, if you don't get it you chargeback through Paypal.
However, none of that is going to happen because the key will be legit 99% of the time.
>>342370316
because >>342370434
>>342369990
Just FYI, it is a general practice in digital PR to resolve all of the issues with the customer on the public ground. Of course they answer to negative reviews, that's the whole idea of having a PR department in the first place. It is irrelevant that it may be damage control, because it's a common procedure.
>wanting to support an online marketplace where people sell games they acquired using credit card fraud
>>342370448
Pretty sure they have dollars there
>>342370512
>none of that is going to happen because the key will be legit 99% of the time.
so which is it, it's never going to happen or it's going to happen once in awhile? 1% out of thousands of sales isn't a small number
>>342370512
cdkeys isn't a marketplace though like G2A. People don't sell their keys using cdkeys as a middleman,
Listen here faggots G2A isnt a store, its a market place, just because you are a jew and wanted to save a few cents by buying from some chinese seller doesnt mean the whole place is shit
>>342370631
those people are smart and should be supported
>>342366342
>Poles and Chinks in charge of selling cd keys
what could possibly gofraudulent????
>>342370451
gb2/tumblr/
Nobody is saying the victims caused the crime, they're saying they could have prevented it. That's not the same thing.
This type of "victim blaming" doesn't absolve criminals of guilt, but it does correctly point out that these "victims" are incredibly stupid and could have avoided all their trouble if they had half a brain.
They're not guilty of causing the crime, but they are guilty of having subhuman intelligence.
>>342370573
>it's a common procedure.
it wasn't for g2a until tinybuild went public about how their keys were stolen by these snow gooks
>It's a people don't actually read who they are buying keys from on a marketplace then whine about getting scammed episode
>>342370631
most people resell gifts and to be honest credit card fraud can be done anywhere including steam
>>342370741
CDKey.com is one big gray market reseller. It's not a marketplace like G2A and Pinguin are and I never claimed anything of the sort either.
>>342370738
>None of that is going to happen to you, because the key will be legit 99% of the time.
No need to be deliberately obtuse, anon.
>Go to EBay
>See a guy selling cheap vidya codes
>Don't bother to see that his account is fresh with negative reviews
>You send your credit card details directly to the seller
>You're surprised when your CC gets scammed and the key is fake
How are people this fucking retarded? Check the fucking seller and G2A is fine. It's like Craigslist. You don't go for the 50 dollar ps4 in a walmart car park at 3am or you're a fucking retard that deserves to be robbed.
>>342370741
>>342370750
It's both though. They have a store and a marketplace.
>>342370714
Pretty sure they're still chinks and not polish.
Are sellers with high (99% with thousands of ratings) feedback safe? Or are they selling stolen keys?
>>342370967
but they dont sell as much, most is just people selling
>>342370991
Only 1%
>>342370956
so there's a 1% chance of you getting scammed. if 100,000 keys are sold that means 1000 people are getting ripped off. that's a significant number
>>342370991
Nothing is ever completely save, look into their last dozen transactions. Did those transactions include the game you are planning to buy? Are the ratings positive or negative?
The majority of the keys sold are not stolen, despite what people may tell you, but some undoubtedly will be.
>>342370846
g2a is not polish, gog is
>get duplicate key for a game
>phew, luckily for me I bought the guard shield shit so I'm covered
>g2a demand screenshots of my steam account, my inventory, my games library, my purchase history
>provide everything and expect a full refund or a working game
>days go by before they tell me they need me to contact steam and ask when the key was redeemed and who by
and that's when I put in a dispute with paypal, g2a never responded to paypal because they knew they were at fault for scamming and so I was awarded a full refund
>cucks believe g2a shield does anything
maybe if you buy a $3 game sure
>>342370991
The ones with high ratings that have been around for a long time are safe. They're probably just buying up keys in bulk from some cheap source.
The ones selling stolen keys won't use the same account over and over, for obvious reasons.
Bought 3 keys off G2A. 2 were already in use. Wouldn't bother with them again.
>>342368898
Dumb anon. They buy keys in bulks / from cheaper retailers. There's nothing scummy there.
>>342370868
I don't know why people seem to think victim fault is somehow the most horrible thing these days. Hell people get less jail time because of it. Crimes of opportunity carry a lower sentence.
>>342371127
But it's those 1000 people fault. They should have chosen 100% rating seller.
>>342370984
I'm half right, you're half wrong
I'm still gonna buy games from key-selling sites.
If you want my money, devs, how about you price your product correctly next time.
>>342368736
>paypal
My mother got two credit cards skimmed because she used paypal.
>>342371210
what games?
>>342371160
does paypal disputing purchase with g2a really works?
Games in Canada are $79.99 and the special editions can go up to 100 fucking dollars. When the dollar went down, prices went up yet unlike Australia, our wages didn't. So basically shit got more expensive and will NEVER go back down because publishers know they don't have to.
G2A, G2P or CDkeys.com has ever fucked me in the ass. Atleast with G2Play they helped me obtain a refund for Dark Souls 2 so I could get Scholars of the First Sin expac. As far as I'm concerned, I'll keep buying CD Keys or rely on Steam sales as long as publishers keep being jews.
They did this to themselves. Otherwise I'd just pirate what I can and they'd get nothing instead.
>>342371127
It literally means that if you get your games 1% cheaper through G2A you'll be, on average, breaking even. However, the discount is often in the 30-40%, which means if you buy 3 games through G2A and your 4th game is a scam you'll STILL be making profit even for some stupid reason you cannot chargeback through Paypal.
But with a 1% failure rate it's completely financially worth it.
>>342370901
Just filter by stars and get a random page. They have been doing this for a while, which, I guess, is expected, because those allegations are not that new.
>>342371307
Your mother is most likely a fucking retard that uses the same e-mail and passwords across multiple services and websites and has all her security question info on display on a public facebook page tied to said services.
>>342371160
nice try friend
but that's not how paypal disputes ever work LMAO
>>342369461
Dear Anonymous,
Thank you very much for reviewing your recent purchase at our Marketplace. Everything suggests that the seller was at fault. Please report the case using the Resolution Centre tab on your G2A shop account anytime, 24/7. Provide the required details found there, and a screenshot as a form of evidence. The seller will be able to reply and swiftly resolve the problem. If that response is inadequate, you’ll be able to continue the matter, in which case our specialists can fully assist you round the clock. Rest assured our Resolution Centre is an effective and quick way to achieve a happy conclusion in just a short matter of minutes.
Make sure to also ask how Shield Protection can work for you immediately. We highly recommend subscribing to our Shield program the next time you make a purchase!
We hope to see you soon at g2a and in case of any comments please contact us 24/7at [email protected]
With best regards,
G2A Team
>>342371378
"market sucks so I steal"
You sound like those niggers that buy stolen merc stolen from trucks.
>>342367450
Do you realize G2A doesnt manage your card transactions right?
>>342371149
>https://www.g2a.co/tinyBuild-fraud-allegation-g2a-statement
ul. Moniuszki 26/7, 31-523 Kraków, Poland
Polish VAT id number
Polish Court Reg number
Polish TIN number
>not polish
>>342371235
It comes from Tumblr getting mad over things like "you only got raped because you act like a whore."
It's awful when someone says that in an attempt to absolve the rapist, but that doesn't mean there's no truth to it. Of course people being what they are, they took that as "blaming the victim for anything is always wrong no matter what" and now you have people acting like telling your kids not to play in traffic is victim blaming.
>>342371213
who are these mythical retailers that sell games even cheaper than G2A scammers, at such a low price that G2A can sell on for a profit and still be cheaper than steam sales?
>inb4 they buy from russian vendors
those keys are regioned locked and you know it, slav
>>342371334
yep, you put your side of the story (being scammed with duplicate key) and G2A are asked to provide theirs. in my case they didn't respond because they knew the key didn't work.
no defense = instant refund after 7 days
>>342367450
>Bought like 50+ games from Kinguin and G2A in a span of 2 years
>Not a single invalid key or credit card theft happened except for a third party chinese seller that sold me a non working key but Kinguin gave me another to make up for it.
I always feel like it must be shitty indie devs or publishers making up bullshit like this.
>>342371496
it's not stealing, those keys are still count as legal
>>342371334
In my experience Paypal disputing always works, as long as you're completely honest and don't just try to bullshit yourself out of paying for something.
>>342371496
it still legal retard
>>342371496
More like
>Home market sucks, so I import from regions where publishers arbitrarily sell goods cheaper.
>>342371382
so you're justifying a company who enables scammers and most likely criminals? okay, got it. i'll be sure to never buy anything from g2a and i will advise everyone i know to do the same
>>342371518
well that's cool
>>342371518
Head Office is HK, retard
>>342371734
Sure, nobody from Reddit buys anything on G2A anyway. But go and circlejerk away.
>>342371518
g2a.com, it's in the footer
Holy shit with all these retards claiming they didn't get a valid key or had their credit card info stolen should never use any other market site. Bet you fuckers would fall for the most obvious scams on eBay and craigslist.
>>342369461
>my car without insurance was set on fire
>oh vey why they insurance I didn't have isn't paying me
>>342371734
it's a free market you sheep
also 1/10 for your baits
If you hate sites like G2A and Kinguin, you hate capitalism.
Why do you hate capitalism, Anon? Are you some kind of commie faggot?
>>342371837
stop projecting, my man
>circlejerk
you're even using redditor buzzwords
>friend tells me I gotta play ESO with him
>tells me I can get the game super cheap on G2A
>never used the site before but he gives me some code to even get a discount
>find a seller with a high rep or whatever, don't remember at this point, they had some kind of high rating
>buy a key for the game
>don't even play it because faggot friend is already bored of it
>week later get an email from Beth or Zenimax, whoever runs ESO, says my key was fraudulent and that my account is locked until I pay for the game
Well there's like 20 bucks I'll never see again. I was probably just unlucky I guess. I seem to remember it was annoying setting up my account, even had to talk to some foreigner over the phone just to confirm my identity or something weird like that.
>>342371972
How do you know it's a reddit buzzword if you don't go there?
>>342371496
>I don't know anything about economy
I don't know if all the retards like you are shills or just 12ya olds coming from reddit.
>>342371810
You can have your head office anywhere, you fucking idiot. Your company can be registered in another country. A headquarters somewhere else is usually for tax avoidance purposes.
Hence Trump getting fucking booty blasted when American companies try and put a headquarters in Ireland.
>>342371937
who said i agree with a totally free market? i think a free market is the best, but we need regulations. if a free market means criminals can peddle their stolen warez without repercussions and scam people then there's some issues
>g2a is totally legit all keys are 100% legit ))) no fraud)))
>anyone who got scammed by g2a stolen keys is idiot its their own fault)))
make your minds up fucking retards
i guess this is why you dumb fucks have to buy from black market sellers, there's no way people with this level of intelligence could ever get a better job than burger flipping lmao
>>342372001
>even had to talk to some foreigner over the phone just to confirm my identity
wat
Does Steam benefit in any way from purchases of the gray market?
The more I think about this, the more easy it feels for Steam to implement some system for preventing this kind of key sale.
>>342371972
>>342372035
Unlikely to be a Reddit buzzword, it was in use on 4chan even before Reddit got popular.
Might be used there now tho, I don't know.
>>342372035
because i can tell you're not from around here so you must be from reddit. keep denying it though, redditor
>>342371962
Word, we love capitalism around here, and not some fucking bullshit corporate cocksucking where we HAVE to buy games at full price or wait for a sale where games return to regular price
>>342372001
>even had to talk to some foreigner over the phone just to confirm my identity or something weird like that
Something sounds fucked.
Can you give the full story?
>>342372150
>>342372146
Why are there so many fuckers that can't capitalize anything today?
>>342368736
Paypal sucks though, it adds a barrier between you and the transaction and they aren't considered a bank but instead money handlers in the US which gives them a lot more latitude to fuck you over.
>>342371307
No evidence of a major breach at paypal ever. If fraudulent paypal transactions occurred it was compromising the local PC or password reuse.
>>342368851
It costs less money for something you could ostensibly say you thought was legitimate and play online and shit still.
>>342371862
I'm not one of the faggots complaining about G2A, but I did get scammed on eBay recently.
Sent in a complaint to customer service and got a full refund. Pretty good.
>>342372113
>Hence Trump getting fucking booty blasted when American companies try and put a headquarters in Ireland.
Well, you mean he gets mad over tax evasion? A company headquartered in Ireland is an Irish company, dumbass.
Never used G2A, but I bought from CDKeyHouse once which is the same shit (possibly same company or people running all of them) and it took days to get a key and I think they tried to steal my identity. They didn't succeed, my bank put a stop to it. Never again.
>>342372150
What ever your stance is on this. You're a fucking beta weeb
>>342372304
this is 4chan, not your high school english essay you fucking dweeb
>>342372304
give me 1 (one) reason to capitalise, reddit-kun
i'm waiting
*taps fingers menacingly*
>>342371496
"oy vey why not purchase locally, goyim, not from this shady Palestinian merchant?"
That's literally all this boils down to. Game devs want you to buy from their most profitable marketplace, and pretend they didn't make a retarded decision.
>>342372369
lmao, how the fuck did you pay for your purchase? you mailed in your fucking CC or debit card?
>>342372452
Exactly.
>>342372304
fuck off?..
>>342372221
The same reason Steam allowed selling their keys to third-party sites like GMG in the first place.
If someone has to use a Steam key (even if it wasn't bought on Steam) they have to install the Steam client. Basically they get dragged into Valve's ecosystem. Not saying I hate Steam or anything, but its obvious that Valve still benefits in the end.
>>342372452
>It's okay to be retarded. We're all in good company here.
>>342372302
>>342372179
It was a couple years ago I think so I don't remember too well. I just recall that when I tried to buy the key, it wouldn't let me and said first they had to verify my account or something to that effect. They did so by calling my phone and asking if I was the owner of the account, and if I was the one trying to buy the key. I just confirmed that and then that was it.
>too poor to buy games from steam or gmg
>too poor to buy games from steam sales
>can only just barely afford stolen key prices from G2A
Why don't you just pirate games if you're that poor?
>>342372359
>A company headquartered in Ireland is an Irish company, dumbass
So, aforementioned gog.com is Cypriot company then?
>>342372146
>but we need regulations.
it's already happening
also why in all cases there's always some indie devs crying when other big devs don't care
If this was all just a scam than big publishers would do everything in their might to close it permanently
>>342370094
>denuvo cucking pkeks out of games
>unironically defending the main market that lets them get 50% off or more
gee, i wonder why
>>342368562
I legit lost a game yesterday I had no idea this was a thing, Dark Souls Prepare to Die I bought like 2 weeks ago. They removed it from my steam account.
>>342371447
Thanks for the insults, but no. She uses seperate emails and passwords for everything.
A lot of people have been compromised recently with paypal and she was caught in it too.
>>342372536
oh right, school is out
>if i capitalize all my letters and use periods maybe everyone will take me more seriously because of how mature i am
everyone hates you, kid
>>342372585
You can't pirate multiplayer games anymore through LAN emulators.
>>342372638
Nice proof.
>>342372670
Keep going.
>>342372609
Ye
Not hard to figure out. If you have a penis you're a man if you have a vagina you're a woman
>>342372221
I believe steam gets a tithe for the digital distribution and platform management. It also keeps people using steam, increasing the value of the platform.
>>342367450
Where cards get compromised is a difficult business, one of the reasons I like my citi credit card is they let you generate unique credit card numbers that only work at the first merchant they're charged at (e.g. if you charge a legitimate purchase on one site, if the credit card number leaks it can't be used at another store).
The problem is if you're like most people you don't use a credit card exclusively at one site, meaning any number of processors may have been compromised.
And when you make a purchase and when fraud occurs can be entirely separate thing. You could have bought somewhere eight months ago, they get breached three months ago and yesterday some criminal sells your card number online and some guy charges fraudulent transactions today.
>>342372359
Tax avoidance isn't tax evasion, you retard.
>A company headquartered in Ireland is an Irish company, dumbass.
>Microsoft
>Yahoo!
>GlaxoSmithKlein
Look at all those companies. Which ones are Irish?
You put an headquarters in a country, you declare your taxes there, you avoid paying higher tax in another country. American company pays Irish corporate tax, completely legally. Thats why it's avoidance and not evasion.
Fucking educate yourself. You're legit talking out your fucking arse about shit you don't know. Fuck off to /x/ and cry about chemtrails and autism causing immunisation if you want to be a retard.
CC frauds can happen anywhere even on steam
>>342372670
>>if i capitalize all my letters and use periods maybe everyone will take me more seriously because of how mature i am
you deleted your post but i just wanted to let you know that you type like you're mad
>>342372638
Me too.
Please buy games at full price, us indie devs have to pay rent as well! G2A is literally the devil for buying in bundles and abusing currency exchange rates.
>ITT: G2A shills.
>>342372221
Steam would never do this. Publishers and indie devs want to be in full control of their prices. Hence why most of them always attack gray market sites because they can't force you to pay a full price for it. Most publishers would rather go digital only these days so people can't get games cheaper in stores or sell them second hand.
If someone is really paranoid about getting scammed then just buy a steam gift instead of key. Mostly they're just left overs from steam sales that people hogged up and re-sell it on those sites.
>>342372638
Send a request to the website, providing evidence of your purchase from the seller, and see what they say.
>>342372538
Oh? But Valve only makes those sweet jewbucks if we buy shit from THEIR site, right?
And assuming our first purchase went well and without issue from whatever gray market site, why would said new customer consider buying from Steam?
I know it raises the odds slightly, considering that they now have Steam installed, but most people will go where the prices are best, and if that's not Steam, what does Valve earn?
>>342372723
>>342372814
lets not change the subject here. g2a and similar sites harbor criminal slavniggers and scam a significant amount of people and their sites shouldn't be used by anyone
>>342371603
alright lad, gonna need the sauce on this one
>>342372861
They earn players. Any paying players making use of their Steam service is an increase in worth for their Steam service.
>>342372838
Cancer isn't always bad
>>342372302
at some point g2a requested teamviewver activation. before it was phone activation.
cdkeys still has a requested phone number for first time account activation
>>342372861
>why would said new customer consider buying from Steam?
how did you think steam get so popular in the first place? you install the client, you see the steam sales, your friends push you to gift shit, you might download F2P games with steam market dlc, etc
yeah not everyone will fall for it, but alot do
>>342372970
Oh. Thanks for the informative answer then.
>>342372791
>can't actually argue the point so he resorts to "this is what you think" tactics so he can argue with his perspective of what I think
>it's a technicality so I'm right
>arse
Cry harder, you bitch faggot
>>342372720
I don't have proof didn't screen cap it
Doesn't take a genius to see that key sellers are shady as fuck and not worth trusting enough to try and buy a game from. They exist in a legal grey area right now, but in the next year or two I suspect that will change and they'll be shut down. Of course, none of the Chinese or Eastern European criminals running them will ever get caught or anything for it.
>>342372838
>Disclaimer: I will say anything if I am paid enough. How else will I support my wife's son after I die on ass cancer?
>>342372952
Hell yeah fuck the middle man! The publishers should be in full control of how much money they want and force the consumer to pay 60 dollars!
>>342372838
Based
>>342372952
>lets not change the subject here. g2a and similar sites harbor criminal slavniggers
most of the good g2a sellers are either american, british or german
>>342372838
Oh wow, TB the defender of indie developers hates G2A? Who would've thunk.
It's literally the popular opinion to hate G2A, you wont find a single reviewer and or gaming website worth its salt defending them. Why would they? G2A directly reduces revenue for practically all developers and publishers involved.
>>342373052
Did they delete your G2A and Steam account as well? You have a transaction and activation history for both.
>>342373052
I don't think so I can go look.
>>342372861
They get/keep users and it's not like Steam sales don't exist. I imagine pretty much anyone would prefer to buy from Steam rather than some random potentially shady shop if prices were the same, which may very well be the case.
>buy game from g2a
>a month later steam removes it from my account due to stolen key or w/e
thx
>>342373038
Not sure if you're being ironic, but why would, for example, Twitter be worth as much as it is right now when they were completely 100% free up until recently? Users alone give a certain worth to a service, the more active users, the more the service is worth.
>>342372838
>legally
except cd key resales literally are legal, thats the crux of the problem
did he get cancer to the brain or something?
>>342372785 here
In 2011 I was in my last year of college, I had a wells fargo credit card and basically no income. I go on to pay my bill for buying a pack of gum or some shit and I see my balance is $1,200. What the fuck. So I view the pending charges and it's several fraud charges.
I call wells fargo and ask how they couldn't block these or call me. They occurred in Michigan when I was going to college in PA and permanent residence was in NY. I disputed the charges and they were reversed immediately.
In 2013, someone posted my name, address, phone number, and that long cancelled credit card number/expiration/three digit code - along with those of 499 others- as a "taster" on pastebin that they had real credit card numbers to sell.
Certainly that info suggests an online store I shopped at was compromised. I suspect one site in particular, a small electronics store online that I had shopped at long before since other people on slickdeals reported compromises after shopping there, but I had used that card many places. It's impossible to tell when it was stolen - only when the misuse started.
Pic related is the paperwork I signed legally swearing that I had nothing to do with the charges I disputed. Classy intelligent purchases, as you can see.
>Front page
FIND HIM
>>342373326
i have had my steam account from 2 years now, not one game i bought from g2a has been removed
>>342373326
what game
>>342373042
>Demonstrated to be wrong
>Y..you b...bitch fa...faggot
>>342373326
never happened to me
is there proof?
>>342373435
prison architect
it's the only game out of about ~~5-6 that i've bought that have been removed
>>342373367
I wasn't being ironic. I didn't think of what you said until you said it, so I tried to be a politefag and say thanks. Not often you get actual non-shitposting answers on /v/.
Unless I'm being ironic now too.Which I'm not.Or am I?I'm not.
>>342368817
There's really not anything shady about them, faggot.
Keep falling for their fear mongering. It's exactly what the Steamcucks want you to believe in order to get you to spend more money.
>>342373029
I once bought something on Kinguin and they asked me to take a picture of my passport to prove I was a US citizen.
I told them to fuck off.
They said it was for my own protection (what?)
I told them to either give me my game or give me my money back.
They said sorry and gave me my game.
Weird as fuck, but I got what I came for so it worked out in the end. I've never bought anything off Kinguin ever since, though. CDKeys and G2A have never pulled any of that bullshit on me.
>>342373369
the problem is CD keys often come from bunk sources. there's a section on reddit that resells the keys of microsoft software for much less than retail or OEM keys would cost through any other channel, and they are keys issued by microsoft - but 90% of the time they're MSDN or Technet keys that are for the exclusive use of somebody with an active technet subscription for themselves alone. it's a license violation to sell the keys, therefore microsoft sees the keys as illegitimate and blacklists them when they catch keys out of channel.
>>342373529
>never happened to you
proof?
>>342373369
He's referring to stolen credit cards and stuff, I think. Which is probably less than 1% of the purchases made on G2A.
>>342373660
his steam games probably
G-guys I bought from G2A and all my steam games disappeared, my credit card info got stolen and some slav came in and shot my dog and held me hostage until the police managed to free me.
I swear guys.
Also please buy Punch Club from Steam right now! It's an amazing game and the devs deserve all the money! Don't hurt them by buying from these satanic websites.
>>342373326
You could have spent a dollar more to be insured in case this happens. Your fault.
>>342370942
Devs have support on Steam. If I buy a shit ton of keys using CC fraud from a dev, then resell them on G2A, then someone files a chargeback, the devs loses all that money, meanwhile their keys have already been sold.
>people legitimately thought buying games from a 3rd party site exploiting legal loopholes was not fishy in any way
>>342373660
>claims there is a situation where proof can be obtained
>counter-claims that there is a situation where proof can or cannot be obtained
>the burden of proof is on the second person
No
>>342373598
Digital keys make it easy for fraudsters because there's low risk of getting caught. Cdkeys does something similar - you have to get a text at a number. They're really good at catching free VOIP phone numbers, if you try to use a google voice phone # it will lock you out and make you submit an ID scan.
To deter fraudsters, requiring a copy of photo ID with a photo of a person gives them something to give to your card issuer if you dispute the transaction later. And it probably scares some fraudsters off.
That being said photoshopping a poor quality scan of an ID would not be hard and that's a stupid requirement
>>342373385
That sounds like a nightmare
Some questions for you
Is your credit score normal now?
How long was the investigation?
Were there additional purchases made later?
>223 replies
>26 IPs
Something's not right
>>342372638
Request a refund.
Worked for me
>Buying games from 3rd party retailers
>When piracy exists and is free of consequence
Loving every laugh.
>>342373947
Are you blind?
>>342373841
everyone is exploiting legal loopholes man, your phone company, your ISP,hardware and software manufacturers
>>342371603
>If it doesn't happen to me, it doesn't happen
Dev seems to be a turbofag but on the other hand all key resellers are at best, criminals via proxy
There's a little saying involving thieves and honour that seems pretty relevant
>>342373876
>Cdkeys does something similar - you have to get a text at a number.
I've literally never had to do this and I bought like 5 games from them.
fucking blasted
>>342374009
Fuck, got the images and IP counts mixed up. My bad.
>>342367450
use paysafecard or similar alternative if you are non-euro
in fact you should use it for steam too, that way they dont ask for name, phone number etc
>>342373660
they're still in my library?
anon did you think this through before posting?
>>342373947
Dumb mobileposter.
>buy Warcraft 3 in a store
>this cdkey is restricted
:^))))))
>>342373385
Had something similar happen 3 years ago, a bunch of charges adding up to around $800 for shit in Idaho but I live in MN and have never been there. Bank dealt with it but it was a few months after my first and only time buying something from G2A, so I have no doubt it was because of them. Definitely won't make that mistake again, I'll stick with Steam and GOG.
can someone explain this drama to me?
>>342374239
>>342373849
>>342373772
>no proof posted
LMAO G2A KEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>342373889
>That sounds like a nightmare
It wasn't that bad. In the US you pay no interest on purchases on credit cards if you pay your bill in full each month, so my credit was tied up - not my money in my bank account.
>Is your credit score normal now?
Yes, the 60% balance usage (my credit limit was only $2,000 on that card at the time) hurt my score for a while. I disputed it with the three major bureaus. Experian removed the account entirely, Equifax and Transunion put a note that I disputed an aspect of the account. My FICO score now hovers between 780 and 810 depending on the month with all three bureaus (and the scoring model). In the US 720 is an average score, 760 or higher will generally get you the best terms on a loan, and 850 is the maximum.
>How long was the investigation?
Two weeks from a consumer perspective. I disputed the charges via phone, the account was closed immediately. A new card was sent via Fedex overnight. I got the fraud affidavit in the mail a few days later, I signed it and I heard nothing from Wells fargo after that.
>Were there additional purchases made later?
None successful, two attempts after reporting the fraud. Once the fraud affidavit was done and the new account was activated the old compromised account number was formally closed. Someone may have attempted to use the number later but I wouldn't get an email about it.
>>342374378
developer is a faggot
g2a are shills
thats all you got to know, dont root for anyone
>>342374176
You can use Paypal for everything besides Amazon. Paypal is literally working together with Gray market resellers.
Why resort to paysafecard where you have to pay an additional 5-10% fee on top of the actual price of the card?
>>342374127
They've done it to every purchase I've done from them, which is a handful.
>>342374318
I've never bought from G2A so I can't speak to them. CDKeys has seemed fine.
>>342367450
100% sure you had some keylogger on your PC but its your dumbass fault for not using a another payment system
>>342374464
so, business as usual?
>>342374395
same goes for you
>>342374442
You should probably remove that last number. Or not, I don't know hot to hack you anyway.
>>342374464
>g2a are shills
They're just exploiting the fact that the developers are faggots though.
>>342374587
yup
>>342374378
>dumb indie developer hates paying steam for a cut of their sales
>dumb indie developer makes own vendor in an attempt to skip the middle man and keep all profits for himself
>dumb indie developer takes no steps to prevent carding (carding = stealing someones money off his credit/debit card via numerous means) which steam does
>dumb indie developer gets ripped off by a wave of carding ruskies (or w/e) who use stolen cards to buy the games and all the payments get chargedback
>said ruskies sell the game on g2a for a profit
>dumb indie developer gets buttmad as he did not take precautions and cant cancel the keys
>>342374239
>gif
NOPE
>>342374567
A bunch of people just got compromised on Teamviewer, dispute is whether or not the random 4 digit PINs got compromised or password reuse on other compromised sites from Teamviewer accounts. Criminals had a field day with banks and Paypal...
>>342374607
No name, no expiration date, no entire credit card number, account closed for more than 4 years. I think I'm okay.
>>342374641
that doesnt change the fact that they have some shady shit, like charging for the shield even though i disabled that thing
>>342374501
I never bought off g2a but on steam there is no fee
>>342374716
hilarious. indie ''artist'' btfo yet again.
