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why did this game just come into existence

it's free, it had no sequel, it's from an indi dev who never went on to make anything else noteworthy

and despite all this, it's pretty decent.

Has there ever been a game like Cave Story that just.. exists one day, and is never talked about, completely free, and isn't shitty?

It's wierd to think about.
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>>342341556
It was a product of it's time and the mentality of freeware, it was a good age for creativity.

Today we have Steam where any fucknut can put an RPG maker game on there for $15 and everyone's chasing the Minecraft money.
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If you mean freeware, yeah there's a ton. Specifically RPG maker, has a lot of free games come out of it.

One of my favorite free games was Soldat. I used to play it all the time as a kid. Multiplayer is probably long dead by now, or populated by 20-30 Russians and Polish guys.
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>Why did Pixel make this game? Like, why the fuck? The amount of loving attention to detail that went into this game indicates that the man, beyond a shadow of a doubt, possesses the mental fortitude befitting a researcher in a facility in Antarctica, delving into the permafrost, seeking the Cure For All Cancers. Why did Pixel bother making a videogame, when God had given him this situational opportunity to Literally Save The World? At the very least, the man could have sought out the Ultimate Toothbrushing Solution — a three-second-a-day quick rinse that eliminates the need to brush your teeth, while also keeping them sparkling white. (It’d be like those antibacterial hand-wash-lotion things, only for your mouth.) Instead, he made a videogame. We can only theorize that his reason for making a videogame instead of something objectively beneficial to the human race as a whole was because he had a computer at home, and not a chemistry set. “Employment” in a “Japanese Office”, as you may have heard, usually involves sitting in a chair for fourteen hours a day scrolling a spreadsheet up and down — same as any office anywhere in the world, except with this added pseudo-obligation to do “overtime” every night, especially when you’re not busy. Pixel was likely getting home tired every night — riding a bicycle to and from the office — so he’d get there, sit down, rest his hands on his pillow-like keyboard, and hack out fierce code, just pouring the contents of his brain out into this game. Eventually, it was playable, and even more eventually, it was great.
(http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=416)
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It was from a different era where people actually put their heart, soul and effort into a game.
Now we have Corporate Suits thinking of new ways to scam us and Yearly AAA Rehashes, with creativity being considered a sin lest you alienate your audience of casuals and children.
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>>342341556
I've been on 4chan for 11 years and I've never played more than 30 minutes of both Cave Story and Yume Nikki
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>>342341968
What a pointlessly drawn out writing style.
Talk about the subject, man.
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>>342342224
Not trying to be a shill, but Cave Story is probably on the list of games everyone should play. I mean it's free, no excuse. I bought Cave Story+ without knowing the original was free.
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>>342341556
It was a hobby project made out of love. Pixel didn't even intend to go into the game industry.
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>>342342326
It's a 6,000 word review.

>>342342351
Same, and I didn't know about the hacky thing Nicalis did with the framerate until after my second playthrough. Disappointing.
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>>342342224
Why, both are literally free games, you have nothing to lose
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>>342341556
Pixel went on to make Kero Blaster, which I heard is also pretty fun
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people talked about it all the time when it came out dumbass
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>pretty decent
It's one of the best games I've played.

Op, you need to go play Iji right now.
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>>342342006
>It was from a different era where people actually put their heart, soul and effort into a game.
no it fucking wasn't it was incredibly unusual even when it came out because all other freeware games were shit
there's nothing more retarded than second-hand nostalgia for something that didn't even happen
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>>342341968
That writing reminds me of- yep, it's tim rogers
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>>342342542
>gang garrison 2

mah goddamn nigga, i still visit the forums, its sad to see it had turned into literal neo-/v/.
i still am in contact with a handfull of members of the forums and it all
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>>342342704
Pink Hour and Pink Heaven are the best demos I've seen in a long while and they're both unique side games for one single ~5 hour long game. However, Pixel shot himself in the foot with that art style. Maybe he's not aware of the western indie scene that it's bloated with stuff like that. He should have done much better in that regard.

>>342343548
People actually played that past five minutes? Forum culture is weird, man.
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>makes another game for sale
>it's shallow as hell and forgettable after you play it once

When is he going to make something of Cave Story quality again?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVa7qgg9Ik

It still hurts.
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>>342342006
Are you really romanticizing fucking 2004?
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>>342342542
ChoRenSha is fucking impossible to play.
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>>342343727
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_in_video_gaming
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>>342343869
>January 20 — Wired's Vaporware Awards gives its first "Lifetime Achievement Award" to recurring winner Duke Nukem Forever.
Heh.
Should've stayed that way.
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>>342343610
they did years ago, its gone to meme-shit now for the most part, or atleast the clan-section is(yes it had clans and yes i was in a couple but i was godawful. but it was fun)
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>>342343727
>No DLC
>No QTEs
>No MOBA
>No politics
Please. Take me back. I'd give anything.
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>is never talked about

How young are you? Cave Story started the whole indie game bullshit and was a huge fucking deal when it came out.
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>>342343727
Are you suggesting 2004 was a bad year?
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>>342344085
I thought that was Braid?
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>>342344205
Blow could only wish that were true
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>>342344205
>>342344289
Braid at least started the circlejerk among certain indie developers to make games that were *definitely* art, for what that is worth. Personally I'm more than okay with games like Gone Home and The Witness but not when they cost $20 fucking dollars and $40 fucking dollars. Three years later Gone Home is still the price of two Kero Blasters. That's not okay. Just because some faggoty Pollock vomit is worth millions of dollars doesn't mean two hours and no replay value is acceptable.

Back to Cave Story: Can you imagine the kind of shit the various AAA publishers would try to subject the IP to if they owned it? Just think of all the offers over the years Pixel must have gotten for it.
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>>342344085
No one ever talks about it anymore
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>>342341556
jotex the speedior
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>>342344630
cough cough
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>>342344790
DELETE THIS
I liked Cave Story+ though
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>>342344790
Fortunately they don't own the IP so we only got one 3D shit show, but boy was that game ugly. Worse looking than Mighty No. 9 I'd venture.

We'd probably get like a Cave Story: The Metroidvania: Order of Pointless RPG Mechanics.
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>>342341556

This game is the very definition of 4chan

Lonely

Free and open

No back story

Anyone can play
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>>342345368
there is a backstory, it's short but it's there
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>>342342542
>Knytt

Comfiest game of all time. Also I think "NightSky" is made by the same guy. Also extremely comfy.
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>>342341556
>Has there ever been a game like Cave Story that just.. exists one day, and is never talked about, completely free, and isn't shitty?
But it didn't just come into existence one day. He blogged about it and people were aware of it and its development beforehand. It's also been featured at comikets and other conventions too.

But ultimately it was a hobby game made in spare time. In an age where people could find themselves making games for fun and not to make a career for themselves on it.
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what's the best version of cave story?
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>>342348798
I like the new art and remixed music in +, but a lot of people swear by the original.
So depends on what you prefer and whether you want to buy/pirate or not.
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>>342349034
does + have the original music too?
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>>342341556
I'd love to play it but I don't know which version to play
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>>342348798
>>342349209
Freeware version. Use the pre-patched translated version listed third here: http://www.cavestory.org/download/cave-story.php

>>342349034
>>342349148
The new art and music is bad but I don't care enough about that to argue about it so know that because Nicalis very desperately wanted Cave Story to run at 60fps they sped up the entire game by 20%, since the game was written frame dependent on 50fps. You can imagine how this fucks with the game.
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>>342349148
Yeah, there's the original, the new (it's shit) and the one remixed by danny b
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>>342348798
the 3ds eshop version because it's the original but in optional 3d
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>>342341556
Cave story is overrated trash
I couldn't play it past the first 10 minute because of the clunky gameplay and shitty graphics
Just wasted precious storage space on my vita
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I remember having enthusiasm for indie gaming because I thought we'd get Cave Story quality stuff and not what we actually got.
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>>342349521
hahahahha
HAHAHAAHAAHAAHAHAH

also dont forget about kero blaster
the dev needs monies
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there's plenty of games like that, they just weren't viraled as fuck
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>>342349521
Shovel Knight, LISA, Undertale (not grafix tho), and Freedom Planet are all about as good as Cave Story was. Only Shovel Knight really comes close to the timelessness of Cave Story, since all the others have some noticeable flaws, but there ARE indies that can almost stack up to it.
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>>342342776
>Iji

MAH NIGGA
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>>342343727
>2004
>not the peak for games
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>>342350381
There's a lot of duds on there but rows 8 and 11 more than make up for it.
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>>342350381
I wish we got a fifth of this these days
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>>342341556
people used to make cool shit just to make cool shit
now everyone wants to be the next notch
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>>342350592
But we do. We get shitty sequels to a bunch of these.
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>>342341871
This. Passion is gone. I miss the day where I could go to any freeware games site and any game I pick is likely to amuse me for a couple of hours or more.

Interesting ideas and games that were actually finished before release. Not to say there aren't good freeware games today but they are just really rare.
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>>342343697
In terms of level design and general controls Keep Blaster is a lot more focused than Cave Story. It just doesn't spend as much time on the story.

I thought it was great.
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>>342341871
>>342351378
They were fucking rare back then, too. I remember Newgrounds too, man, it was a handful of genuine classics and a million shitty Xiao Xiao rip offs.

You're not remembering an actual era, you're remembering the specific time in your youth at which you discovered such games and had the whole back archive to look through.
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>>342341556
you guys remember a game that was almost a cave story clone that was going to come out several years ago but the creator just dropped off the face of the earth? the protag was a small blonde boy, health was calculated in hearts. i wish i fucking remembered the name of that game, it looked incredible.
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>>342355486
Iconoclasts?
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>>342343548
I remember playing the shit out of it because I really wanted to play tf2 back in like 2010 but my shitass computer couldn't run it. It was an incredibly fun experience and I'm sad to hear this.
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>>342355796
nope, it's far older than iconoclasts and it's visual design is almost exactly like cave story's, just a little brighter in terms of palette
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>>342355796
RIP
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>>342350381
Online gaming was already based, and the environement wasn't that bad.
I had started playing Ragnarok Online back in 2003, but the top was probably 2004.
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>>342348798
Vanilla

Plus has a shit translation and Pixel doesn't actually get a cent from sales
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>>342356313
Not rip.

>>342356249
The Underside? Momodora?
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>>342356676
>the underside

that's the one, RIP
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>>342349521
sometimes a gem comes through
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>>342342542
Iji is GOAT and should be played by everyone. So much extra and well hidden content goddamn.

Never played much of knytt and spelunky.

1. Iji
2. Dwarf Fortress
3. Cave-Story.
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>>342342224
Let me guess. You're 12 years old, right?
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>>342355323
This tbqhwy famicom
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in-browser flash games. those were the shit.
heli attack 2 on miniclip.
maus entertainment games, particularly the one where you had to do quests to get some shitty hentai pics in return
newgrounds
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>>342356546
MMOs were a different beast back then because WoW didn't exist yet so all of them tried to be their own thing instead of just copying WoW. Same reason Michael Jordan ruined basketball.
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>>342341556
Probably one of the best games I played in my life. Everything about it has so much love and effort, specially the soundtrack. I can't imagine a sequel reaching the same level of perfection.
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