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>June update
>they keep flat out saying "end of june"
>this meme still exists
Proof memers are utterly retarded.
>>342241423
End of june is actually means august
>Developer confirms 8-frames was a design choice casually on stream
>Capcom PR says it isn't, and that it was a mistranslation
Everyone tells me this game has the "potential" to be good, but does it actually, or are we just defending a bad game?
>>342241921
Of course it has potential, they'd just need to rebuild it from the ground up to not be shit.
>>342241921
I don't think people expected it to be worse than Ultra, but it is.
This game is fucking trash. USF4 is better in every way, except graphics.
>>342241921
It does. Some things need tweeking but in general I have fun with it. It's there but buried under capcom's usual shit.
>still no Urien gameplay
>need to wait til September cause Jurifags take priority
I need to Aegis Reflector a bitch right now.
>>342242385
all future DLC characters are playable on Story mode.
so no need to worry for urien or juri
>also
urien is fully clothed in this game sorry
Next week Thursday.
>>342242924
In story costume mode. It's getting hot package premium costume eventually.
>>342241921
Where is this happening exactly?
>>342242385
>tfw I will probably jump back st.MP on habit
>>342242924
>grape suit
>also voiced by based Sugita
He looks fucking fabulous.Watch Capcom ruin it with no Aegis Reflector.
anyone down for a couple matches
>>342243605
Depends, how shit are you?
>>342243605
sure whats ur id
>>342243456
v trigger will probably be necali style transforming into KILL mode for the rest of the match.
I want to knee drop bitches again.
>>342243845
very
>>342243859
TheSamoCamo, password is going to be 132
>>342243974
>tears off his suit when he enters v trigger
This game is dead, everyone with brain know that and wait KoF XIV or playing GGXrd.
>>342244305
>anime games prospering outside of jap'n arcades
And I have no doubt kof will be fun as fuck, but you're delusional to think that game won't go the same way 13 did at best.
I'm waiting more on T7 personally.
>>342244092
for some reason it says the password is 0132, so if joining isn't working you may want to try that
>>342244305
I try to like KoF but animations look horrid.
>>342244305
The reason Capcom gets this much shit is because they're literally the forerunners of the genre. I wish I could believe anyone when they say "SFV sucks, and everyone will move onto 'X' game," but that hasn't been the case so far. MKX, KI, Pokken,Smash,and GGXrd (SIGN) have been out since before/around SFV's release and there hasn't been any great "migration" of SFV players to those other games. It's like when people expected the Marvel scene to move onto Skullgirls after a while, but it never came to be.
I don't even care.
I just want Urien and a "super"-type of update.
>>342244305
You are absolute delusional if you believe SF fags will start playing weebshit in droves now. Quite the opposite, actually: You fags have been increasingly obnoxious ever since SFV was announced in your attempts to rile up fanbases against each other. Even the ones who hate SFV won't touch animu shit just because it brings them one step closer to your kind.
>>342245042
Why aren't the ones that dabble in more than one fighter more vocal than the blatant fanboys? Feels like the ones not pledging allegiance are getting rarer and rarer.
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CfIPLA9.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
>>342244905
>urien
>not Q
>>342245042
This. They won't even play other Capcom fighters that were made by the same people who made Street Fighter and whose mechanics and aesthetics were adapted into Street Fighter.
The visibilty of SFV is only exist because Capcom have a lot of money, but this game are shallowness.
Everyone, who play fighting games need to support Arcs System or SNK for what they do relatived to Capcom guys. This is the true.
>>342241921
>>342243274
It's beyond me why some people were so opposed to the input delay being brought down to at least the 360/post-patch PS4 USF4 standard.
And KoF isn't really a otaku games guys.
>>342245425
I'm supporting them but Capcom also because I'm not letting SFV end like this(and in hopes for new vampire savior).
>>342241921
>Everyone tells me this game has the "potential" to be good, but does it actually, or are we just defending a bad game?
I mean, I was really just playing for the ass and thighs, but it's okay.
I suspect an inevitable Super Street Fighter V will probably show up eventually to fix things up.
I mean, shit, everyone wants a new Garou or Samurai Shodown, CVS 3 but no one want buy SNK games, what the fuck ?
So we should support KoF XIV even if this game looks like a 360 game.
>>342245253
Beats me. Though I believe the internet makes people autistic.
These days it's all about fanboy wars. Sony against Microsoft, Marvel against DC, Witcher against Dragon Age, and so on. It's just so tiresome to read about this shit on a daily basis, let alone know that people willingly engage in this childlike activity.
Personally, I enjoy SFV, but I'm also a huge Tekkenfag anxiously waiting for Tekken 7.
>>342245425
>ASW
Those fuckers are even more jewish than capcom, so "standing" for either of them is fucking retarded. I buy games I find fun. I find SF5 fun so I got it. I find XrdR fun so I bought it. From what I'm seeing from XIV, I might get it. Not pre-order for $20 extra and some goodies because that shit is how the cancer starts, but I'll definitely give it a shot.
Apologize.
>>342245425
>Engrish
Too bad Arcsys and SNK appeal to the niche with their anime-style visuals/themes. SF gets so much attention because of its big name and a more broad appeal, even the typical dudebro fifa player wouldn't feel too weird about picking it up.
>>342246065
Apologize for what? I never hated you. Though adding Elena and Rolento was a dick move.
>>342246138
>Implying SF and Marvel aren't anime
>>342246065
Nah, you were trash.
>>342246271
Point is dudebros are too dumb to tell the difference. Most likely think it's murican game.
>>342244720
Good games, man. It's been a few weeks since I last played, but your Necalli is good. Can't seem to beat anyone with a DP, haha. Being a Laura main is suffering.
>>342246662
>Laura
>>342246662
Thanks man, you were pretty alright as well. Necalli is fun but recently tried picking up Vega, not working out nearly as well. Just wait until they have thrown out 2+ DPs, then bait out the next one and it will most likely work.
>>342241921
Capcom USA and Capcom Japan are basically fighting with each other. Japan is pissed at US for releasing the DLC roadmap since Capcom couldnt meet the deadline, and now USA is pissed at JP for telling people that input lag was intentional,
>>342245253
I play every fighter I can run on my shitty laptop. Messing around with the mechanics and combos in different games helps with execution and keeps things fresh. I'm still no where near good though.
Too busy concentrating on experimenting and improving as a whole to shitpost in autistic fanboy wars.
Why did noone bitch about frames until this month?
The same top players are still consistently winning, so where is your excuse now?
>>342246065
I still hate the focus attack system, but I do love all the characters I could play. I miss Cody.
>>342245737
You don't understand:
>SNK fans want new Garou, SamSho, etc.
>Capcom fans just want SF + Grooves
From a casual standpoint, you end up with people like Maximillian who only end up liking a handful of characters like Terry and Rock. From a competitive standpoint, the only viable SNK characters were Iori and Hibiki. Trust me when I say Capcom fighting game fans are content with just having SF and Marvel. They just happen to like Terry from KoF.Yes, I know he's from Fatal Fury, that's the joke.
Cant wait for the """""""""""""May""""""""""""" update!
>>342246918
Tried doing that with you, but my choppy connection got in the way. Sorry about that too. That said, best of luck with making Vega work. I hate to say it, but being a character without an invincible reversal in this game is hell. I even catch a lot of Guile's trying to Flash Kick upon wake-up only to be reminded that it isn't invincible anymore, unless it's the EX version.
>>342247258
Focus attack is still probably the worst shit and I'm glad it will be 4's thing.
I truly hope SFV becomes as big as SF4
I mean SF4 was refined over 7 years you can't reallly compare them right now
Doesnt excuse SFV of the other provlems it has right now though
I wish I was good and that fighting games wouldnt make me rage as much as they do
inb4 capcuck
I think there is a good chance a "super SFV" will come out after season 1 ends, with balance changes, hopefully a better netcode, and no more 8 frames.
Only after that the game will live again.I really don't want the game to die, I started getting serious in fighting games with SFV and a little of USF4 before, and SF dying just means the death of FGC
>>342247174
This has been going on for a while now. Since one of the first CPT events, I think. SnakeEyez did a video interview and brought the difference between the PC and PS4 versions to light. That said, you can even find some videos during the beta where other pro players pointed out that something "felt weird/clunky/off" about the movements and inputs of the game. Only difference is now we know what it is.
>>342247647
Nah it was more likely my internet, running on Brazil-tier wifi right now. The no-reversal really hurts with Vega as he just melts as soon as someone rushes him down.
>>342247258
I miss Cody too, man. Cody in Five would really make my day.
>>342245620
>(and in hopes for new vampire savior)
If anything they'd probably make something more like Vampire Hunter. It was the most casual-friendly game in the series and the most successful one as a result.
>>342247984
>>342247960
I think SFV could eventually come into its own, but it's going to take just as long as it did with SFIV probably. This game needed Sony's funding to be made, so there's no telling how long it's going to take them to fulfill the laundry list of duties they have ahead of them with whatever small team/small budget they're working with.
>>342247174
people have bitched about the input delay from v sync since the beta
mainstream people only cared like the THIRD time eventhubs made an article about it with snake eyez (where has this fucker been lately? lost so much he is ducking every tournament?) mentioning it in an interview. it's been spammed in twitch chats like a meme.
offline input lag is bad no matter who is winning. don't defend shitty work by pointing the same people are winning.
oh except snake eyez, he's not winning shit.
So how much of a financial failure is SFV? Really?
On Capcom's platinum's list it lies at 1.4 mil. How much were they expecting to sell here? 2.5 mil?
So, at what point does Street Fighter V: Starter Edition come out for $15, like all the other flagging multiplayer games of late?
>>342247296
Did Max ever elaborate on why he's never really liked KOF?
>>342246065
You apologize for Elena first.
>>342248383because they aren't paying him
>>342243456
>also voiced by based Sugita
How do you know?
>>342248551
Wiki said it, but it's all [citation needed], so take it with some salt. I'd believe it though.
David Boat's supposed to be his English VA.
>>342242385
are you sure
>>342241921
It has potential
The problem is EVO is right around the corner so it's too late to actually put some changes in
The game will get better after EVO, updates will come faster since they were just focusing on characters
But it'll be too late anyways, the game is extremely unforgiving to new players who want to get into the game and pros aren't really enjoying SFV as well
>>342247960
SFV is already bigger than SF4. We're just living through the initial arcade vanilla style launch that people, including Capcom, always take for granted. By the end of the year we'll have the vanilla home launch version.
Do you think the full story will be leaked before it releases next week?
I need Urien mang
>>342247960
>I truly hope SFV becomes as big as SF4
Whiles sales wise it isn't competitively it is as big if not bigger
>>342248825
SF5 is already beginning to collapse at an incredibly fast rate. The only sign of it being huge are evo numbers which had 3000 people signed up before the game was even released.
Tons of pro players are saying they dont like the game but are playing it anyways because capcom is funding the scene and after the game bombed so hard capcom doesn't have a good reason to keep funding anything
>>342249076
What do you mean? If they release a patch and not unlock the story mode right away then most likely yes. Also all dlc characters will be fully playable on pc.
>>342242385
>tfw I found juri legitimately fun
>tfw forever associated with the I Need You Juri and footfaggot crowds
>>342249286
Evo entrants are at 4000+ now.
The pro players that are bitching most of the time are also the ones losing all the time.
Most of the Japanese players made a full turn around on their opinion of 5's mechanics for instance.
>>342248325
Snakeeyes was consistently winning every wnf for months after release then fell off the map.
If it was an issue why are top 8 the same players consistently
>>342241532
Remember when they said end of may?
>>342249461
I mean, there already is 30 minutes of gameplay on Youtube including footage of Balrog
Maybe not leak but just release before we get to play it
>>342244827
This, and it isn't like no other games offer money. MKX just got a 50k pot bonus at evo, the game is still dead despite selling stupid well
Individuals may shift what series they play but you just don't see whole communities do that
>>342246065
elana ss+ tier still exists
>>342241921
In the same way you have the potential to become the sun since you're made of the same atoms
>>342249535
Phenom the guy that just won dreamhack in Europe on twitter saying he doesn't like this shit.
Can't remember ever seeing any pros talking shit like this about SF4 when people played it.
>>342248383
He said he can't learn 3 characters
>>342249286
>SF5 is already beginning to collapse at an incredibly fast rate
What is your proof for this? You saw on /r/kappa that one player said that they don't like some aspect of the game? Despite none of them quitting
>>342242924
>>342248748
>one ROUND against a gimped NPC
>playable
Meh.
>>342249662
Elena was good but she ain't no SS tier bullshit if she was then gamerbee might have won capcup/Evo.
Who cares.
>people bought into this after the betas
really.
Come on. No one to blame but yourselves. There was like fucking three months of time over all the betas, to figure out if it was worth a purchase. Anyone with a brain figured out almost immediately that it wasn't. If you're some memer fag who follows "the FGC" you deserved to have your money sucked out of your wallets.
>>342249725
>Can't remember ever seeing any pros talking shit like this about SF4
People did nothing but shit on sf4 before it became to say it was a perfect game
You sf4fags are the new 3Sfags
Gonna host a /v/ lobby. Password is 6969
FT2, 99s, Char select on. Capcom ID is up there ^
>tfw Tekken 7 looks dope as fuck but it's not going to sell for shit and will probably have bunk-ass netcode
>>342249910
>Anyone with a brain figured out almost immediately that it was
Fixed.
>>342249725
Vanilla SF4 was nonstop bitching about DPs and fireball safety/priority. Daigo literally won finals several times in the first year just DP spamming.
Ironically Phenom just won dreamhack doing the same thing by using block string safe DP spams on Necalli.
>>342249765
A sponsored player isn't going to quit their paycheck dipshit.
Why does anyone even care about the SFV story? They showed like an hour of it already, the story is 5 hours long and everything about it screams shit, the acting, the pacing, the story itself is just terrible
>>342249552
it's an issue because it completely invalidates a reactionary playstyle. Capcom designed there entire game around offensive rushdown being the only viable way to play. Defensive characters are nerfed into the ground like Balrog not having a headbutt or 3 frame jab.
Every top player does the same aggressive shimmy play because that's the only thing that works while players that played SF4 with reactions and defense are complete shit since the game is so biased against them.
Capcom wanted to appeal to casuals by making the game look more flashy and they thought the best way to do that was to make it so everyone has to be on the offensive all the time so matches become fast paced
SFV is absolutely trash
>>342249845
No they did say playable in its truest sense.
>>342250058
> Capcom emulated ST, Alpha, and 3 rush down style
> 4 players bitch
Literally the new 3s fags.
Reminder that 8 frames of input delay removes footsies and strategy from the game and basically turns it into a mashing slugfest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CBEVIDwge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwalITH_cGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap369ES-6Xw
>>342249981
Thats more fuudo's fault for being a stubborn bastard and going for buttons so often rather than blocking.
>>342249971
SC5 and TR's netcode was ok. I don't see why T7's netcode will be shit.
>>342249986
So
>SF5 is already beginning to collapse at an incredibly fast rate.
Is utter bullshit then? Top players aren't quitting cause they want cash, more are getting sponsored and we are still seeing general high turn out
When will people get over jump fighter 5 and go back to ultra
>>342249910
Didn't you have to buy it to get into the betas in the first place?
>>342249487
>juri is a swiss army knife of playstyles in IV, where you have to keep changing modes to survive against good players
>you just know they're going to make her another rushdown only faggot in V
>>342249970
bumpin
>>342250224
it'll somehow be busted. bet your bottom dollar.
>>342250164
You're an idiot who hasn't been paying attention.
https://youtu.be/5hXLQ5ReY6s?t=1682
>>342249971
Stopped playing T6 online after first try because it was so shitty. Nobody cares about 3D fighters anymore sadly.
>>342250367
I loved how fast you could switch gears with her.
>>342249487
Being a normal human who likes Juri is suffering
>>342248383
Here you go:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0kCK_mebg
Rundown if you don't want to watch it:
>Skipped KoFXIII because netcode sucked
>"I do want to learn a KoF game, starting with KoFXIV"
>"Characters I really want aren't there, like Rock and Rugal."
>"I'm excited for Kukri, King of Dinosaurs, etc."
>"I actually used to hate not-Capcom fighting games, vividly. Even Mortal Kombat."
>"I'm willing to give KoFXIV a shot and I hope SNK takes full advantage of Capcom's troubles with SFV and learns from them."
>>342250312
> high turn out at tournaments
> higher viewership for a Street Fighter than ever on multiple services in spite of the "SFV is bad" meme
> real sponsors putting in for SFV and getting positive results like Red Bull and Adidas
SFV's competitive scene needs to crash harder.
>>342250195
they emulated it in all the wrong ways
>8 frames making it harder to whiff punish and react to rush down
>dash animations being hard to react to
>Most v-skills being a VERY boring fireball neutralizer to prevent zoning
>>342250195
ST was rushdown and zoning. If anything it was more like IV's variety of styles.
>>342250367
holding fireballs is gone. v skill is her counter teleport. Feng Shui engine is her v trigger but it just gives her a damage buff instead of being able to do crazy combos
>>342250519
>SFV can't even fail right
LOL!
>>342250610
>>342250463
>>342249845
>gimped NPC
It has multiple difficulties, beating each earns more fight money
http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/blog/2016/06/09/sfv-cinematic-story-and-additional-june-updates
>>342250597
Counter teleport should be her v-reversal.
>>342250597
Well I'm not even playing V anymore, but I am waiting on Juri to make my final decision. If they made her like that I would immediately sell my copy. I don't want another rushdown faggot.
>>342250369
>>342249970
Lets goooooooooo
>>342250597
>v skill is her counter teleport
I'm pretty much expecting that, but just play omega mode juri for an idea idea for what to expect. I will flip shit if I can't hold fireballs anymore though.
Where were you when you found out Snake Eyez is going to be 4's version of a 3shitter?
>>342250519
The few times I've looked at SFV tournaments I haven't seen numbers bigger than what IV had, can you show me some?
>>342249845
i was thinking about the order
>Playing 2 weeks ago
>Everything normal, lots of matches with people my rank around low to mid Silver
>Win some lose some. On average win more than lose.
>Last week
>Every match, be it casual or ranked, is now high Golds, Ultra Golds, Platinums and even one Diamond
>Haven't won a single match all week
Did the community just drop dead or something?
>>342250510
God what a fucking whiny faggot
Why does anyone give a shit what he thinks?
>>342250774
Having difficulty levels doesn't stop it from being one round and against an NPC with no real moveset.
>>342250940
My mistake.
Waiting for the complete Edition
>>342250946
I've had the same actually
I'm an ultra bronze shitter who mostly plays casuals and I had to fight a 6K Ken main
I kinda just stood still didnt even have a chance
>>342250934
Europe has been pretty much the same except for the Kumite having a stupidly huge turn out.
The US has been consistently overwhelming smaller events and making medium events have to run pools longer than before.
>>342250468
Tekken didn't have good online until Tag 2.
>>342250934
did you miss final round having more than 1000 people for sfv? i'm pretty sure no tournament other than evo hit numbers like that for sf4.
>>342251070
CEO did in USF4
>>342251025
>When you try to DANG but you get a DONG instead.
I'll reserve my judgements for the competitive community until after CPT. At the moment they are definitely riding that new game high. Especially with the previous game basically being forced out of a lot of big tournaments, so the players have to find something.
>>342251112
2014 or 2015? because with pre-reg numbers i found, i find that extremely hard to believe since it's not common for tournaments to double or triple their total numbers via last minute/door registration.
>>342251323
It was the final year, it was either ceo or FR. I do remember there being one non evo that had those numbers. Just one though.
>>342251256
Capcom realized their mistake with SFxT when they didn't immediately kill off SF4. If SF4 died then everyone would be playing SFxT regardless of the game quality
>>342249970
This lobby still up?
>>342251427
ceo would be the one i'd expect to do those numbers, but i couldn't find any final numbers, rarely seem to be able to without finding brackets and counting manually.
>>342244305
> playing ASW games
oh boy I love being two versions behind and having to pay 70 dollars if I want all the characters in each game.
For real though, if they weren't so jewish I'd play the fuck out of their games.
>>342251487
Yup, just sitting here waiting for people to join.
>>342249970
I want in dammit
>>342249970
can't find the lobby
>>342251567
Can't find it when searching for lobbies with passwords, try remaking it
>>342251487
he might have left
new lobby, id is TheSamoCamo, pw is 6969
>>342250507
I'm not claiming to be a normal person, but 90% of the porn for her sucks, and when you bring her up, that's what's coming next anyways because most people's juri runs consist of unsafe pinwheels, full rekka divekicks, and whiffed U2s.
>>342251002
Because he's literally the PewDiePie of fighting games. What he lacks in competitive skills he makes up for in personality, which is why he has thousands of viewers that will throw money at him. Only other person that streams fighting games that also gets thousands of viewers is Daigo, and that's because everyone wants to steal his tech and study his patterns to destroy him.
>>342251657
>>342251618
>>342251605
No idea, remaking lobby. 5 slots.
>>342251567
>>342251618
Think i found it, samocamo?
No sakura=shit game famo
>>342251686
still nothing, you sure you made the slots public?
CFN is MFDOOM if you wanna just invite me
>>342251780
Ibuki is next week though and shes better in every way?
>>342251659
>90% of the porn for her sucks
Is there any fighting game girl with more good porn than bad? Even Chun-li, who is the female face of SF, has nothing but weird muscle, hairy-armpit shit. The more popular the character, the lower the standard is for fan/porn art I suppose.
>>342251732
that's me, same rules but different guy
>>342251657
this is unplayable at the moment maybe cos I'm UK, although I've had good connections with america
>>342251882
Search for thesamocamo
>>342251780
Ibuki is when better than stinkura, she's never fucked a hoboyet
>>342252029
ah, got it.
>>342251968
Look at it this way, at least you're not a viper fan. Literally no porn that isn't some kind of hyper fetishized picture that only the original artist will enjoy.
>>342252029
invite me, HustleWizard.
thanks
>>342251780
I main Sakura man, and even I know they won't throw her in SFV because everyone wants Akuma/Sagat back.
>>342251919
>No triple kicks
>No Hien
>No Tsujigoe
>No Neck Breaker
>Better
Good one, anon.
>>342252017
yeah i've got awful connections to anything outside the us, sorry about that pal
>>342246065
>implying I stopped believing
Focus attack sucked, but everything else was almost perfect. And after Elena and Poison were added it had the best waifus in any SF game.
>>342250195
You have clearly never played ST, Alpha or 3
>>342252093
This better be her battle costume I didnt get jewed out of a season pass for nothing
Who's ready for the big bird?
>>342241921
SFV has the best design/balance of any fighting game. It has the least bullshit/gimmicks/meme characters and has the most fundamental and skill based play of any fighting game. The only things bringing it down are some minor technical stumbles and a new division in the FGC between people who like different kinds of gameplay.
Mahvelfaggots and sf4 09ers who are all about muh sick reads, muh mixup, I beat you in rock paper scissors guessing game twice in a row that means I deserve to win the round, what the fuck is a footsie etc, and y'know what that is a valid fucking opinion, mahvel 3 was the most popular game to watch on twitch after the fighting game renaissance, those types of bullshit-laden games have a tendency to produce a lot of hype, and those types of people are now complaining about SFV being boring to play. I think those people should fuck off to revelator since that's got the mixups and resets and setplay focused game design they're clearly looking for.
The REAL cancer though, is the "muh singleplayer fighting game" mortal kombat / injustice faggots complaining about SFV lacking features like challenge modes vs AI or a story mode. Holy shit those people need to die.
>>342252210
Can't invite m8 im not the host
>>342249845
>doubting the power of mustard rice
they will all be playable in training modeincluding the dummies
>>342245620
>(and in hopes for new vampire savior)
After how they handled SF5 do you really want that? Characters like Huitzil and Pyron were designed from the ground up to be zoning machines They'd neuter them to the point of uselesness. Hell, they already did exactly that to Pyron when they brought him back for the later versions of Savior.
>>342252401
I agree with every single thing you just wrote.
>>342252401
>I beat you in rock paper scissors guessing game twice
As opposed to rock and scissors only in V, aka crush counter and everything else?
>>342250934
EVO has been crushing its own records left and right. Street Fighter V has, at minimum, 4000 entrants.
>>342252624
You generally only get crush countered when you make an unnecessarily risky play though
>>342252401
>I beat you in rock paper scissors guessing game twice in a row that means I deserve to win the round
>>342252401
>SFV has the best design/balance of any fighting game.
OP, I think you meant May update, no?
>>342252741
Yeah like teching a throw, or doing literally anything after you get hit by a medium punch.
>>342241532
You mean like May?
>>342252401
>minor
Fuck no, the game still neest tweaking on the technical side and capcom really needs to handle their pr better, I thought they'd learn after SFxT, but apparently not.
As a game I love it FAR more than any iteration of 4, but the way it's handled is such a shitshow.
>>342252797
Name another currently played / sucessful fighting game that has matchups better then mostly 6/4s and one or two 7/3s in a roster with more then 15 characters
>>342252875
Does being in a throw whiff animation put you in a crush counterable state? I don't think I've ever seen someone hit a whiffed throw with a crush counter move.
>>342252485
They really are out of touch aren't they, I also want new Bloody Roar from Eighting but dead dream I guess.
>>342253065
>Does being in a throw whiff animation put you in a crush counterable state?
The startup does. That's why I never even try teching when I fight bison
>>342252401
>>342253065
VF5
>>342253273
>54.png
The autism.
>>342252386
You probably did, actually. Her default is the school outfit and her story mode one is a dress like Karin's. On top of that, if we look at the only other SFIII character in SFV, Alex, you'll see he doesn't even have his original SFIII outfit. Besides, would you really be happy being jewed out for a season pass just to get the same costume Ibuki has had since day 1 and told that it's "premium?"
>>342252875
Have you heard of blocking?
>>342250934
Any run-of-the-mill major or premier puts SFV right at Twitch's top viewed, something SFIV would only manage during EVO or CEO.
>>342252949
I feel like they're minor. I don't know about 8frame meme because I play on PC, the desync in online is a real cunt when it happens but that's only like 1 out of every 5 matches in my experience, a reasonable threshold that doesn't prevent me enjoying the game.
>>342253345
Holy shit virtua fighter still exists has a franchise? I haven't seen or heard anything from them since like the mid 2000's
>>342253484
>like teching a throw
Even if we don't count throws, V kind of reminds me of fighting C. Viper. She does some stuff that you just have to deal with, then it's your turn to do some stuff. Repeat until someone dies.
>>342253273
Why would you do something like that?
Before the "MUH 8 FRAMES" the only constant shit the game would get was "MUH SINGLE PLAYER/ARCADE MODE".
>>342252782
You have to guess wrong against mika at least 5 times to lose a round, unless it's the second round and she has meter, and that character is the single one in the entire roster that really needs some changes other then maybe giving gief his greenhand back
>>342252875
Looks like you literally can't stop pressing buttons, this is something you should improve on.
>>342253827
You're right, he should have used bison/ryu as his example
>>342253665
You could also DP, who do you play as?
>>342253935
What's wrong with ryu? He's the most fair character in the game
nobody realizes that SFV's current negative reception is a lot like every street fighter game's reception at launch. some players hate it, some players love it, and new players come through. technical issues aside, the only difference is volume at which these concerns are being expressed because of the genre's resurgence over the past 7 years or so.
the SFV haters who love to shit on the game at every opportunity are just sad that their preferred game (sf4) is no longer center stage. there are ST players who still feel alpha is shit, alpha players who still feel new generation to 3S was shit, 3S players who feel SF4 is shit, and SF4 players who now feel SFV is shit.
>>342253873
Jesus christ dude can you not read. I'm talking about teching motherfucking throws here. Like one of the most fundamental parts of fighting games. That in SFV you're honestly better off not even trying because you'll take less damage if the throws you three times in a row, then guessing a single tech wrong. And this isn't even high damage characters either, it's the entire cast.
>>342253827
The best ranked Zangief of Dreamhack said that all he needs is 50 extra health.
But then again, he used to play Hugo in SFIV.
>>342254126
SFIV was the only SF game to not have technical issues on the first issue. It even played like the same fundamental game it would become, just with a character or two being OP, the system itself was fine.
Just putting that out there.
>>342253757
>Before the "MUH 8 FRAMES" the only constant shit the game would get was "MUH SINGLE PLAYER/ARCADE MODE".
Um... no.
People were constantly saying how it was dumbed down baby shit with zero fundamentals, depth or complexity.
![3273079934_1_56_ACyg60tA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V5N2Qdb.jpg "3273079934_1_56_ACyg60tA[1].jpg")
>>342253345
Anon he said successful.
>>342254186
Yeah I can't really make calls on how to fix gief, I fucking hate grapplers and the people who play them, but even I can recognize how hard he has to work to do anything against a smart player in SFV
>>342253345
You mean wet newspaper figter?
>>342254150
Did you miss that round when Tokido just start chain throwing the other dude until he was stunned /dead? He was conditioned, he would always believe a throw bait was coming, the same happened to you I guess.
>>342254386
Why didn't sega release VF6, this would have been the perfect time to scoop up all the disenfranchised players. With the true pro name (whether you think it is or isn't) like VF they would have been rolling in money.
>>342254442
Yeah he has to work hard but if he gets that knockdown and gets a right guess twice its basically over.
>>342254526
You can condition people in any fighting game. But SFV the risk to reward for crush counters is so retarded that you don't even have to work at it.
>>342254360
I can literally say this about anything, I can call the water bottle I'm holding right now "dumbed down baby shit with zero fundamentals, depth or complexity". Won't make it the truth tho.
>>342254065
In a way, that can be a bad thing. If the entire game is balanced around Ryu (which Capcom confirmed it is,) then that effectively means Ryu has no bad match-ups or problems despite the fact that the entirety of the V-skill system is meant to fuck over throwing fireballs.
Personally, the only thing I want to happen to Ryu is a nerf to his damage. He can keep the frame data, the fast dash, and everything else, but holy shit no one else comes close to the damage he can do in just 3-4 hits.
>>342254065
Damage
>>342252401
way bring up mortal kombat and injustice out of nowhere
When i lose I'm going off to play battlefield hardline
>>342254320
>>342254320
>not have technical issues
not true, it has many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fE33Fe2474
>It even played like the same fundamental game it would become,
that is completely false, go actually watch some old sf4
>>342254912
No shit it has glitches but not the kind of things you're likely to see in most games. Like stupid huge loading times.
>>342254320
Didn't a lot of places jack up the damage handicap because they thought damage in vanilla was too low in general?
>>342254720
You could also DP out of this if you don't want to deal with it. Even if you get punished at least next time the opponent will be half-expecting another DP to come out, and you can take advantage of it.
When are we kicking this nigger from the lobby
>>342254360
These were also the same people that said there were no combos, resets, or OS. The same people that said Birdie was OP and that Ken and Ryu were the worst characters in the game.
Congratulations, you listened to retards.
>>342255261
That's still something that exists in every fighting game.
>>342254825
>>342254886
Ryu only gets insane damage off of jump ins though, just anti-air and control your space. Birdie gets way more off poke into bull rush and etc. Ryu is already a mid tier character with limited options, the only thing that can really elevate him is doing insane shit with parries. Nerfing his damage would make the character borderline unplayable and everyone would just switch to ken for the ridiculous pressure and almost as good damage as ryu has now.
Can't beat him kick him?
Gonna leave when i lose :^) then play battlefield
>>342255109
>but not the kind of things you're likely to see in most games.
Yeah, these one could actually ruin the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPn8pDfjo0k
>>342255471
>Nerfing his damage would make the character borderline unplayable and everyone would just switch to ken for the ridiculous pressure and almost as good damage as ryu has now.
Hear me out. What if, instead of insane damage he can use his fireballs to control space. Crazy idea huh?
>>342255213
Don't bother anymore. 4 has become the new 3s and 3s is sitting with ST as old man legacy games.
You're going to hear about how much better, more complex, faster, more complicated, more intense, more skillful everything in 4 was and how it was perfect from day 1 until SF6 comes out. You're also going to have a bunch of pros that fall off the map, like snakeyez, who constantly bitches about how bad SF5 is compared to 4.
The man had to stop streaming three times because he went full LTG/DSP and bitched about lag, pressing buttons, low tier, etc.
>>342255213
Blanka's ultra did 600 damage in vanilla.
I really want to ''main'' Ibuki but I feel she will be too hard for a shitter like me
Hell I can barely play Ryu at a silver level
>>342255689
What if you just played guile instead?
>>342255437
I'm trying to help you get around the throw baits, I'm not talking about what SFV has in comparison with other games.
>>342255690
>4 has become the new 3s
I think EVERYBODY saw this coming, whether 5 ended up shit or good.
>>342255689
Fireballs aren't for space control, they're more like a high priority melee attack for dealing with characters who have insane pressure like karin. Obviously those characters have ways around the fireballs, but this is where not being a predictable shit comes into play.
>>342255859
I know how to get around throw baits. That doesn't change how absurd the risk/reward is.
>>342245620
>new Vampire
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAKill me now
>>342255808
She's already confirmed shit
Worse damage than ISIS and requires more work
>>342255327
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/12/i-feel-it-too-simple-yeah-too-simple-infiltration-discusses-street-fighter-5-fears-game-will-be-too-reliant-5050-situations/
>>342255808
She doesn't look hard to play but she seems like kind of a glass cannon
>>342255913
Of course, but due to the prevalence of social media and streaming we have to hear about it even more than before.
The funniest part is how a lot of the pros that are bitching about SFV are the very ones that were saying "SFV is Americas game. Japan doesn't stand a chance. They don't have a head start."
Then, once the season actually started rolling, Japan just steam rolled everyone except Infiltration.
>>342246065
SF4 is the perfect "baby's first fightan" game but any longtime fighting game fan know SF4 is shit, even compared to SF5.
>>342255998
4 had more ways around fireballs than 5, more ex moves with anti-fireball properties, more things like rolls and super jumps. And a universal focus mechanic that everyone had. And it was the most zoning heavy SF since 2.
It's all in the frame data.
>>342256252
>September 12, 2015
>>342247132
Sounds like it's JP being incompetent.
Not being able to meet already set deadlines and mispreading info and yet it's always capcom jp the one that blames usa.
Corporate gooks are as bad as western jews.
>>342256252
>>342256489
>video does not exist
>>342255998
The problem using fireballs like that is someone is going to jump in on one eventually and all that work is out the window esp against someone like karin.
even then karin doesn't need to jump she can do shoulder right through that shit or st hk and it will trade with fireball in her favor at certain ranges if your using them like a poke.
where did everyone go
>>342256252
> September
> 2015
Anon.
Everyone left the lobby ;_;
Last 1 for me samocamo
>>342256579
Everyone left because some faggot ruined the lobby with gimmicks
Ironically it can be compared to the release of SFV on launch to now
It's like poetry
