what are some games with rich and diverse casts of characters?
>>342217949
>my veins seethe with the divine blood of Trinimac
every time
>>342217949
Is Morrowind a good game? Is it worth trying out?
>>342218213
Depends on if you like older games.
Morrowind is a game that makes you work for everything, there are no shortcuts.
If that entices you give it a try.And remember to read up on the combat mechanics or else you will just missmissmissmiss and come back and shitpost on /v/ about it.
>>342218213
It's like Oblivion but sometimes worse, sometimes better. If you dislike Oblivion and Skyrim you probably will also dislike Morrowind. Keep in mind that it's the same old Bethesda and the same old engine. Just cause it's older and isn't as simplified doesn't mean it's necessarily good.
>>342218365
this, especially the combat part
also if you find the graphics off-putting, just install overhaul 3.0 or whatever is the most recent version and enjoy. Don't install the new faces option though, they are hideous
>>342218365
>there are no shortcuts
Nigger what? Vanilla Morrowind's easily the most exploitable game of them all, let alone if you get the X-pacs. It's ridiculously easy to get ludicruously rich at the beginning of the game and then just go mowing down everything in your sight.
>>342218116
HOL UP
YOU SAYIN
WE SUM KINNA
BOETHIAH SHEEEIT
>>342218213
It is a good game. Horribly balanced, buggy as shit, ugly for today's standards but the story and world are leaps and bounds above Skyrim.
>>342218520
>It's like Oblivion but sometimes worse, sometimes better.
It's absolutely NOTHING like Oblivion or Skyrim, actually. Both mechanically and narrative wise it's drastically different.
It's a HELL of a lot more clunky than Oblivion, mostly due to the actually primarily stat-driven combat, in general it has drastically higher emphasis on character-building, worldbuilding and exploration, where is Oblivion is based on direct-control combat (where stats play only the role of secondary passive modifiers), big setpieces driven story and highly scripted tightly directed quests, where the actual world building and exploration barely qualify as afterthought.
The bethesda that made Oblivion and the Bethesda that made Morrowind are two ENTIRELY different beast with entirely different design philosophy, values, priorities, focus, imagination and talent.
>>342218751
I was more thinking of the regular game.
Like, you can't fast travel, you can fuck up leveling quite easy, you can fail quests, you can get stuck on quests, you have to read and interpret what people tell you, you have to look at landmarks, you have to get an understanding of your skills and how it affects the game, and getting to that point where you can properly exploit stuff takes time and effort unless you read up on everything.
Like comparatively when you play Skyrim you are sort of in a trance since nothing you do really require you to pay attention. While in Morrowind generally if you stop paying attention you will get stuck fast as fuck.
>>342218213
yes. play pure spellcaster and do not consult the internet for information
>>342218881
The games have the same framework and if you don't like the overarching design all three games share you will not like it. Nothing looks or feels good and in my mind all the three games get nothing right and are just heaps of features and mishmash content that add up to a big heap of mediocre.
>>342219454
Why? As a new player it would be better to play something more powerful like a straight warrior.
Mage is only fun once you start to get really familiar with game.
>>342219459
>all the three games get nothing right and are just heaps of features and mishmash content that add up to a big heap of mediocre.
th' fuck games DO you like nigger
>>342219538
anyone going into the game from a modern perspective will whine about the MISS MISS of weapon based combat.
ranged weaponry is abhorrent in mw and i find melee to be a chore in general (in all TES games).
>>342219459
>The games have the same framework and if you don't like the overarching design all three games share you will not like it.
Actually, the only thing they really share is the fact that they are open world and that they have the increase skill by doing X. That is literally it. They are FUNDAMENTALLY different in virtually every other aspect.
You will not like them and thing they are alike if you are a completely, utterly and absolutely unobservant moron who literally can't see what's right in his face. You are claiming that they are the same because you need to retroactively justify the fact that you did not like them (and the fact that you quite literally did not "get" any of them as in you are blind to what you are playing).
Anybody who actually pays attention to games instead of making excuses for themselves can and will tell you that you don't have the faintest fucking clue what you are talking about.
>>342219703
I didn't.I still find melee more enjoyable in Morrowind even.
>>342219743
To be fair. At the base level they are all still very similar. Only the ways to go through that base game is different.
>>342219772
melee in mw is definitely far more enjoyable than melee in oblivion and skyrim - at least things die
problem is that when i roll anything to do with melee i find that i end up with something like the fang of haynek-whatever, an amulet enchanted to paralyze target, and carpal tunnel in my pointer finger from spamming mouse1 so hard.
>>342219873
"At the base level" you mean "genre", right? Because they are really very different at their core mechanics.
Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4 are extremely similar at the base level. Morrowind is VERY much unlike those. The only thing they share is really the free-roam approach to adventure.
>>342219743
>>342220332
I'm not sure how you find it hard to take, but here's a list of things that TES3-5 and Fallout3-NV share: Bad art and art direction, especially animation. Shallow combat. Lots of bugs and technical flaws. Lack of choice. Writing that range from "alright" to "would get bad reviews on fan-fiction.net". Bad pacing. Overall feel very unpolished and for lack of a better word, janky.
>>342217949
overwatch
>>342221186
You are an idiot if you think writing in New Vegas and Morrowind is anything but extraordinary for the genre. You are also an absolute, mindboggingly deluded idiot if you claim those games lack choice. And you also don't know what "art direction" means.
Yes, all of those games are "janky". Because all of them are large open worlds, and in case of Morrowind and New Vegas, actually extremely rich open world with huge amount of systems and mechanics and content, which unsuprisingly means they are not going to be as polished as a fucking corridor shooter.
"Being unpolished" is not a design philosophy. Vietcong and Kerbal Space Program were both unpolished and buggy as fuck at the time of launch but that does not make them anything alike you fucking idiot.
>>342217949
Best fucking lore of any game franchise.
>Have Run Like the Wind Mod installed on Morrowind
>Still can't outrun Cliff Racers
Bless you, Saint Jiub for your contribution to your people. Shame he didn't die peacefully of old age.
>>342224168
Based Ice Jiub.
>>342218213
Do you like CRPG's? Yes
Do you like action RPG's? No.
>>342224565
>Morrowind
>cRPG
what
>>342224869
So was this the point where Todd snapped and started this brutal crusade of lies?
Or was it even earlier?
>>342225010
TES was always Action RPR.
>>342223795
>You are an idiot if you think writing in New Vegas and Morrowind is anything but extraordinary for the genre
They're not awful but they're not impressing me or anything. I shouldn't have to lower my standards just because it's an RPG or even a video game at all. Good for you thatcha like 'em though.
>you also don't know what "art direction" means.
I wanted to clarify that the games had both bad art direction (overall decisions about how assets should be designed and styled) and bad art (the actual assets-- models, textures, shaders, etc) because while the games have bad art direction, their artists are so hideously bad that they manage to underscore their own bad art style. Does that make sense? I mean it's insulting shitty. "Very bad."
>"Being unpolished" is not a design philosophy
I would argue that polish is very much a part of design philosophy.
>>342225150
I'm talking about
>Morrowind will work perfectly, get an Xbox
Is there a way to play a Khajiit without being a furry?
>>342227038
being a furry is a meme
>>342224480
aw yiss
>>342224869
>When someone asks me if they should buy Morrowind for PC or Xbox, I tell them to get the Xbox game - I know it'll work perfectly.
>Todd Howard
>>342219538
>something more powerful
>like a straight warrior
Pure warrior or spellswords are probably better early playthroughs, but an endgame mage is obscenely OP. Look at these spell effects.
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Spells
Utalizing those creatively is key.
overwatch
>>342228782
>make a levitate target 1 points for 1 second spell
>blast cliff racers with it
Where are the Argonians?
>>342229017
Argonians aren't elves, silly.
>>342227038
Yeah, it's called playing khajiit without being a furry
>>342223967
>Judging TES races on their Skyrim iterations
They're all weak shit at that point.
>>342217949
This picture is perfect.
>>342217949
Has someone posted a Man version of it yet? I can almost imagine it
>Purest nede genes
>At least half my ancestors are colovian
>Not a single drop of akaviri blood
>Yokuda's destruction is a slanderous myth invented by redguardphobes
>That feel when I really want to enjoy and talk about skyrim but the gameplay is so shit that I can't and it killed any discussion about it on 4chinks
It's an abstract kind of feel.
>>342230124
I understand this feel.
Mechanically I understand that it's an inferior game, but I still liked it/consider some things worth talking about.
ALDMERIS NEVER EXISTED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>342218365
>no shortcuts
Man, I went CHIM with the console and role played it as a part of the game.
