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CON MAN IS ON CAMERA
Hugbox is in full effect.
>"GREETINGS CON-MAN"
>[You have been timed out for 600 seconds]
>>342206339
I got banned lol
they keep talking about "the future" like they're going to have one after this
they are banning everyone that says anything negative lol
Inafune basically confirmed Red Ash is going to be shit or dead
Nothing's fucking happening.
>>342206129
>>342206431
>>342206339
Make sure to thank conman
Say only nice things but put Kappa after it.
>>342206129
Jesus Christ, this is becoming a train-wreck on a universal scale. Literally the whole stream is them pussy-footing around how fucking awful the game is.
>>342206129
when's the crack for this pile of shit
It's just a guy talking about his cholesterol
>>342210004
I was wondering the same.
I would never pay for this trash, but I'm enough of a masochist to play it.
>you shrug it off
>>342210123
I'm ready to experience the shit that retards paid for. But I'm not paying for it myself.
Also, hilariously enough, Mega Man Legacy Collection, a group of 25 year old games, has higher ratings than this pile of shit.
>>342210250
I'm not sure if it's my love for torturing myself with shitty games, or that I'm so desperate for something that resembles Megaman, I'll even take this.
It already crashed lmaoo
also, I got 10 min banned for posting an emote. We got some nazis
>>342209971
>Jesus Christ, this is becoming a train-wreck on a universal scale. Literally the whole stream is them pussy-footing around how fucking awful the game is.
Can you give examples?
>>342206129
I was timed out for 600 seconds. This is good right?
>>342210618
Did you not watch the stream?
>>342210004
Why would you even need a crack? there's seemingly a drm free version provided to people who backed it which is what everybdoy on pc is playing right now since the steam version is still locked.
>>342210792
I just tuned in. They say it's ending in 3 minutes. They've apologized for it being so late a few times. I haven't really seen much though.
>>342210852
The white guy is talking about not holding The Creator to "perfect games" or delays. Basically admitting the game is not perfect but that we should support Comcept anyways. They know it's a disaster. They know people don't like it.
>>342210868
Earlier they were mentioning talking about things that went right with the game as opposed to things that went wrong. Though they probably don't think that some things went wrong in the way everyone thinks they did.
>>342210852
shit
was anyone here stupid enough to back it
>>342210963
yeah, what a fucking hack
They're also banning people with legitimate complaints. What a great creator!!
lol getting timed out for writing 4 mill
>>342210482
they're giving out bans like candy.
Good luck funding your next game you greedy fucking jap jew
>10k backer dinner gonna be like the cypher dinner from the matrix. "I don't wanna remember nothing. No pizza explosions, no 4 million dollars, nothing"
>SuraimuS : who the hell wanted negro music in megaman
> Athens_ : 10k backer dinner gonna be like the cypher dinner from the matrix. "I don't wanna remember nothing. No pizza explosions, no 4 million dollars, nothing"
Oh god is anyone from Comcept reading the chat now? It's pretty brutal. I got an insta-ban for saying THANK YOU CON MAN. I am pretty sure that was a bot that did it. It was too fast to be human.
>>342211049
>RED ASH FOLDER
The shits keeps flowing I wonder if clapistan death threats will scare the conman back to japan
>>342211172
They actually filtered out con man?
What did Inafune say on stream?
> Cyber_Akuma : @01crosswind Inafune flat-out said he takes all the blame and that they know they screwed up, how is that "blaming the fans"?
>>342211262
It wouldn't shock me.
>>342211262
said thank you con-man but my message wasnt deleted
>>342211428
k do it again also write 4 mil
Where's the download?
>All these apologists in the chat
>A-at least it came out guys!!
>It's too early to call it a disappointment, guys!!!
Is it over?
>>342211493
>croua86 on ollut aikakatkaistuna 600 seconds.
>>342211667
yea saw that, dem salty fucks
>Flandafield : Akira Kitamura created Mega Man. He has more creativity in his left thumb than in Inafune's whole body.
kek
>This room is now in subscribers-only mode.
>MegamanPsy : Thanks to everyone that came out for the stream, and for those still concerned about their ability to download the game, it is likely that the downloads will be unlocked in the morning. Seeing as the stream as come to a close though, we're going to go ahead and turn off the chat. Goodnight everyone
THIS IS HILARIOUS
IT'S LIKE THEY THINK THEY HAVE AN IMAGE TO SALVAGE ANYMORE
LOLOLOLOLOL
They put the chat in subscriber only mode
>>342211812
It must eat Inafune up that he never made MM. That must be why he tried to make HIS character, Zero the star of the series.
The mods were on fire, changed it to sub only at the end. ITS SO SAD.
>>342211986
fuckin con man lol CON MAN!
>>342210004
Don't even trip, dawg!
https://mega.nz/#!4M51WSJB!2essoYVo-r3HI117Lp-0i4ciLsf_fubmwC4sWP0u9Mc
>>342212082
Don't you have a noose to hang around your neck, Inafune?
>>342211986
Imagine being him and having to censor this rather savage chat. Every "Con Man" comment. Do you think the Comcept people read it? MegamanPsy is probably just some volunteer or CM type.
>>342212212
but the savage chat was needed.
>>342212308
Yeah, and I'm curious how much the actual Comcept people saw it. Chats like that are much more unsensored than the more restrained published reviews.
I myself tried to come up with some rather savage insults for Kenji "Con man" Inafume.
anyone up for making twitch streams under mighty no 9 and putting up some conman art rotations n shit, possible playin mm
>>342212125
what's the difference between that and the release?
>>342212447
nothing. unless you press the bumpers and A on a 360 controller, you start debug mode.
5/10 game. i kinda enjoyed the gameplay but thats about it
>>342212414
loop those may may videos shitting on MN9.
>>342212413
I feel like they were too scared to look.
>>342211812
It's absolutely true. Kitamura created the MM mold and all the rest of the games just work within those elements and re-use them.
Read this interview, and you get the sense of a real creative person.
http://shmuplations.com/megaman/
Wonder what he's up to now. He's probably in his 60's or more now.
>>342211812
After Kitamura left capcom, what did he do? Did he make a Mega Man knock off? Nah. He makes Cocoron, an action platformer with a unique twist of creating a custom character. Neat concept.
>>342212212
One of their forum mods.
>>342211315
>Cyber_Akuma
Was he a forum poster? Name sounds familiar.
>>342213342
>He makes Cocoron, an action platformer with a unique twist of creating a custom character. Neat concept.
We could have had a "neat" concept too if Comcept just stuck to their original plans of having those transformations. But instead it just got turned into NotMegaman. Because "tight budget", although the apologists/denial faggots will just say something like "those were never promised" or "would be hard to do" or "would be impractical and situational" or "tight budget". These are the people who just want to keep reliving Megaman.
>>342212212
I was spamming サンã‚ュウコンマン!!(sankyuu conman) and he couldn't read it.
>>342213827
>We could have had a "neat" concept too if Comcept just stuck to their original plans of having those transformations.
Kirby? That's been done to death.
>OFFLINE
>>342214015
Kirby doesn't really transform, at least in a more persistent way, he just does some action when you press the action button. Like he'll change into a block or comet but go back to his normal Kirby form. Otherwise he gets a weapon to swing or shoot.
My code doesn't work. Fuck this thing.
>>342214015
Even Mega Man has done the whole "copying enemies" thing before. Battle chips in MMBN/MMSF, the Z-Knuckle in MMZ4, Axl in the X series (despite how shit that was).
>>342206129
What if the only thing bad about the game is the graphics and voicework? What do we do then?
>>342214246
less universal shitposting
>>342214243
>>342213827
How is that original? Isn't Megaman's whole thing that he kills bosses and copies them?
>>342214246
I'm not a graphics snob and I honestly didn't know the game had voicework (I thought it was speech bubbles). But looking at the gameplay you can tell the mechanics are shit and it plays like an obstacle course, not a run n' gun.
>>342214015
Z-Knuckle.
>>342212125
You're not getting me, you dolphins
>>342214423
Megaman turns into a different color palette and uses a weapon similar to those bosses he fought, that's it. Similar thing happens with current MN9 but more of a costume swap rather than color change that Megaman series is known for.
>>342214595
see
>>342214502
was a pretty fun addition
>>342212530
Well that's cool to know, but I still want a copy of the kickstarter backer version for a certain testing purpose.
>>342206129
I just thumbed through the archive of the broadcast, good lord what a trainwreck. Even skipping through I kept hitting points where the guy was making excuses for failure. "We had timeline issues, it's hard making something from nothing, we're listening to your criticisms, yadda yadda yadda".
That's not how a release stream should go. It should be fun and exciting, not full of apologetic bullshit.
>>342214505
nah i got it, it's safe
when did the dolphin shit start anyway? i was more concerned it was lostboy.
lol i was the guy who asked if i could have a job
though i'm actually going to look in to it...
>>342214769
Yeah, but none of the Z-knuckle weapons turn you into a tank, for example.
See, you may say "situational" but think about it like this, like Z-knuckle or Kirby games you'd only have one of these powerups at a time, though it's not that you'd run out in this particular implementation or lose it upon hit. Instead, you keep it until you either die, you give it up and revert to normal, or you find a new transformation to steal from an enemy. How you get this transformation? Dash into the enemy. A specific transformation may help with a section of a stage and may also compromise allowing you to get to another part of a stage, but may make some hard segment really easier. On the other hand, a previous transformation would make something like the last boss fight or some enemy further up ahead way easier to deal with if you keep it, so you gotta think about whether or not you want to keep that if you're good at using its mobility to cross the rest of the stage if possible with it, or just get the situational transformation that makes the immediately coming segment easier.
This also ties to intelligent stage design too, which MN9 apparently doesn't have.
>>342215259
looks more like donkey kong country style transformations
>>342215102
>when did the dolphin shit start anyway?
A while ago, but I've only seen people start posting it here "seriously" real recently
>>342215305
You're thinking of DKC2 or something like that, though those were usually in some crate or barrel or something rather than absorbing them from defeating an enemy, and depending on the nature, getting hit loses that ride unless it was a stage that had a segment where you were required to traverse it as that particular animal.
>>342215447
riding an animal still counts as a playstyle transformation
i could see it working well as a gimmick for a whole level...provided the level is designed well
>>342215508
It's all about the nuances. First off, you can't take those "transformations" to the boss fights or even the next stage, which you could use to unlock secret areas, and I'm pretty sure what you're talking about is in other games so you might as well count them too if we're gonna talk in broadscope.
Be a little more creative with thinking about how this could work.
>>342215259
It doesn't.
However, I actually wouldn't fault the level designers for this. They did the best they could for the mechanics they were given.
But the dash mechanic, shooting mechanics, and a few others as is makes levels almost impossible to be good.
>Unlimited Air Dashes
>Dash and Shooting concurrently is not possible
>Shots don't go through enemies even after destabalization except for with the pierce power or with very specific enemies
It's really, really difficult to make a good level with that stuff. It forces a horizontal approach to the level since the dash can only effectively be used from the sides. It forces there to NOT be clusters of enemies while going through the level since you can't effectively hit them all and dash at the same time with your primary weapon. Whenever there ARE enemies in a line, you have to shoot, dash, stop, shoot, dash, stop, shoot, dash, stop, etc. which ruins the levels fluidity. Not being able to dash and shoot also forces you to stop and prevents certain interesting enemy layouts. The unlimited Air Dashes create a situation in where nearly every level is far, far to easy to complete just by running through it and ignoring the enemies, which you can do unless you're trying to get a high combo.
And the combo system forces a specific level design a specific approach for each design, by virtue of only having a 0.3 second timeframe from destabalization in which you can continue the combo.
To say nothing of the lack of wall jumps and the ledge grabs.
>>342215317
what is this dolphin shit anyway, I've been out of the loop for ages.
>>342215887
*It really doesn't have good level design, I agree.
>>342215804
it sounds like a half-assed idea in the first place, i'm not surprised it turned out like this
>>342215928
It's either the virus that replaces all of your pictures with dolphin porn or it's just a rar of dolphin porn.
It's really old, actually.
I could also be confusing multiple things
>>342215973
>it sounds like a half-assed idea
And the thousandth-assed idea the game turned out to have is much better? It's just a shitty attempt at recreating Megaman. It should have been its own kind of game, but everyone just wants a new MM game. No wonder Capcom got tired of those fans, I don't blame them. I hope they never make a new MM game.
>>342206339
>call stream owner con artist
>get timed out
>LOLOL HUGBXOX!!!!
>>342215102
Dolphin shit started after lostboy, it came from Xstoryplayer threads iirc.
Quit being such a fag, you should know this shit.
>>342216076
A bunk idea is still a bunk idea. I'm not saying it has to be mega man, but it still has to take a lot of inspiration from mega man. A lot of standards were set, and they rode a whole wave of nostalgia from people who wanted a new mega man game.
For god's sake, the intro to the kickstarter pitch implies such, it's ripped straight from the MM2 intro, which is the most popular of the retro series.
>>342216253
It took TOO much inspiration from MM, and the fans who supported it contributed to that. They wanted the environment to be a simulacrum of MM.
They had an idea that would set it apart, and then they tossed it just to make it more like MM instead, going in the wrong direction, but this was the right direction for people who wanted a new Megaman. They just want the same shit over and over. They claim they want something new, but all they want is Megaman fighting some other retarded robot with a slightly different powerup, maybe "creative" in its name or pattern, and then see the "YOU GOT xxx" screen with a demonstration of that powerup and then they play with it for that game. Ad infinitum for the next iteration.
This is also they ever want and ask for, and this is their little shell of a place. And it's not hard to see why Capcom didn't want to contribute to that monotonous development that didn't rake in cash from anyone who didn't want the same game over and over again like Pokeman or MM fans.
>>342211049
At least they have good taste in vidya
>>342216562
I say it would have been fine if they relied more on level design and implementation than relying on taking all of the megaman roles and switching the characters.
So did anyone kickstart this back when there was actual, you know, hope? To those who've actually played it how did it turn out?
>>342216656
Shit in the time I refreshed this a whole thread popped up, never open a reply window then wander off kids.
>>342216649
Level design and something creative as a concept, which the latter would fit somewhere in implementation. But really, when they dumped the old concept during actual development it was clear they had no idea what they wanted or were getting themselves into and this means they had very little planning and too much pipedreaming.
This is why GDDs are made, but it was clear they never even set something like that up. Inafune better take this as a learning experience or retire and go be a stock broker instead, though he apparently sucks at managing money so maybe he can go flip burgers instead and tell people their orders will be delayed four times and then come out buggy or crash on them.
>>342216903
They fucked up hard, whatever they did.
They really should have dropped every platform outside of pc/ps4/xbone.
>wanted to thank Inafune
>get banned
What the hell?
>>342217232
the stream has been over for hours
