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Besides FEAR, what games have the best AI?
>>342171361
You're fucking garbage.
>>342171524
that's not me, it's from some clip I found on youtube when I searched "FEAR AI"
STALKER
Halo
Half life
GTA V
Metal gear
>>342171361
Half Life 1's AI may be dated in some ways but it still does a good job in making you feel like you're against the odds.
It helps that you normally fight them in squads just like in FEAR.
RAGE has pretty good enemy AI too, they react a little slow in some cases though
>>342171361
>there will never be a proper sequel to the original F.E.A.R.
The first one if one of those games I occasionally replay every year or so. Fuck. I might go play it now.
>>342172450
Fear 2 is decent anon
GTA V has the best AI. SWAT will circle around and flank you (if possible) while other cops suppress/distract from cover, just like in FEAR. The most impressive thing is that they do it all in a completely open-world game, using temporary sources of cover like open car doors and vehicle wrecks to suppress, spread out, and surround you.
Also, I used to mod the game, and there are these special "native" functions you could use to make the AI drive a vehicle to specific coordinates. IMO the off-road vehicle pathing is unparalleled in that game
the best thing about FEAR's AI is they could genuinely surprise you with their movements, like you were playing a multiplayer game against actual people
Anyway, I heard Killzone 2 had pretty good enemy AI
>>342171361
someone posted this article that explains FEAR's AI:
http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~jorkin/gdc2006_orkin_jeff_fear.pdf
>>342171361
AI War: Fleet Command
It will defeat you. It is the best.
>>342175361
RTS AI doesn't count
it's too easy to make them really good
Alien Isolation
>>342176296
Fucking this.
>>342171361
L4D had some bad AI, but the mapping was good enough to make up for it.
Halo, definitely
>>342171361moddedSTALKER as well as HL1.
>>342177934
Which one is this?
The radio chatter and reactions are probably the more memorable things.
>>342177934
looks like call of pripyat
>>342178080
Call of Pripyat with the soup mod, if I remember correctly. Though I might be wrong.Might want to ask /sg/, to be on the safe side, if they aren't too busy shitposting.
>>342177934
what's happening here? Who is he and why is he ambushing them?
>>342178274
The AI is free to do what they want. They hunt for stuff, attack others, heal others etc
Fallout 4
>>342175576
Command and conquer hardest ai just had a ridiculous income rate and production rate.
>>342173079
>make the AI drive a vehicle to specific coordinates.
Explain
>>342178274
A lone stalker attacked a small group of bandits. Usually rivaling factions tend to shoot each other off. Bandits don't have many friends so they are at war with more factions and even lone stalkers, who aren't in any factions.
>>342176296
>>342176412
Literally how?
I always felt if you take away the chatter, the illusion is lessened
that's to say the ai is great but the chatter elevates it
>>342171361
STALKER in the highest difficulty can be hell incarnated under certain conditions,especially zombies...ffs,they're supposed to be lobotomized noobs with degrading weapons and equipment and STILL hit you hard from miles away with a rotten and rusty mp5...the fuckin jerks...and Hell be granted to the bastard that made that mod that lets them throw grenades at you.
>>342178678
http://gtaforums.com/topic/818504-any-idea-on-how-to-make-peds-clever-and-insanely-fast-c/
>>342178950
if they didn't chatter they would surprise you a lot more of the time. They give away their location when they speak
>>342171361
That was AI? I thought it was multiplayer.
>>342178764
>THAT faction
You fought the good fight,Comrades ;_;7
>>342179424
aimbot isnt good ai
>>342171361
Half-Life 1 and 2
https://youtu.be/9jO-P3kXlCI
https://youtu.be/Z8_R2OMgNUY
https://youtu.be/Elwb2lV88hM
Witcher 3 expansions also have some pretty good AI
>>342180183
>witcher 3
>good ai
what. they are just normal action game ai.
Uncharted 4, but only during shootouts
>>342177934
Which STALKER is that, want to play it and have Pripyat, and Shadow of Chernobyl. And what mods make it so great?
>>342180085
Oh,no,no,my dear ...no aimboting involved. Just pure lobotomized aiming rage and that herd movement pattern...someone showed me one of those .ltx files where it shows that high class zombies stats had even better aiming than master monolith stalkers. Put an mp5 on their hands and you're next on a blind dog menu.
>>342180183
how do houndeyes attack if they have nothing to attack with?
>>342180461
Wild animals in Witcher 3 actually have AI for when they're not engaged in combat. They'll walk around in packs, sleep and play around.
But I meant the expansion's combat AI. I'm replaying Hearts of Stone and I noticed how some monsters (I am immediately reminded of boars) fight you as a squad and not as individual units, organizing charges and not simply charging at you mindlessly. There was another example earlier but I cannot remember who/what I was facing.
>>342171361
Halo CE
>>342177934
Which STALKER should i start with?
>>342171706
>shoot a small pistol in the air in the middle of buttfuck nowhere
>"drop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" x100
>WASTED
Yeah, amazing.
>>342181351
What are the elite's ai pattern?
>>342181173
Theykill you on sight
>>342172450
Have you played the DLCs?
They're pretty good for what its worth. Nothing special but if you thought the main story was too short and you wanted more content you should play them if you haven't already.
>>342181509
I like this guy.
>>342181504
They will do things like order grunts to suppress you while they move around to flank. They'll sit behind packs of jackal shields if available and fire on you. Ive seen them do a few other cool things like if you down an elites shield one of his comrades with full health will jump in front of him so his friend can get to cover.
>>342177934
>HL1
MY FUCKING FACE WHEN I REALIZE THEY CAN COOK GRENADES
>>342182007
I saw a modder showing a cluster grenade type with a "grenade cooking " behaviour...never again,dude...never again...that shit atays with FOREVER.
>>342171823
>>342181395
The first one.
>>342181994
>Ive seen them do a few other cool things like if you down an elites shield one of his comrades with full health will jump in front of him so his friend can get to cover.
This is hard to believe. Do you have proof? Are you sure he didn't just side step on accident?
>>342182434
But leave Clear Sky for the last...God how I hate prequels...
>>342181424
Youre retarded, its infinitely better than FEAR
GTA5 and GTA4
Dark Souls 2.
>>342183343
I don't think that's actually impressive AI, but god damn do I love that guy
>>342183424
SotFS had great AI. The things maldron would do are only one example.
Another would be how in the crypt, there would always be one zombie that arose and started making his way to the bell to wake the dead while the others would try to keep you off of him.
>>342171361
>>342183997
FEAR is most fun if you only use slo mo when absolutely necessary
>>342183343
>he does a mock gesture you when he kills you
>>342183602
it's not good AI
he literally reads your inputs and has insanely bloated HP
he's not reacting to what you're doing, he knows what you're doing before the animation even plays
>>342171706
I like a Halo, but I feel like Halo 2's ally AI were the best and the rest had bad AI. But if we're talking enemy AI (especially Heroic) then yeah, Halo in general takes credit
>>342181504
They are fast, so they usually strafe from left to right and juke you out to keep you from focusing on them. Sometimes they'll back away, when their shields are down, but most of the time they'll charge at you as well, even without a sword
these: >>342171706
plus Uncharted 4, Condemned and Killzone 2
STALKER's AI is great on a behavioral level. NPCs dont have the fancy combat behavior of FEAR or Halo though
>>342183281
>guy crashes into you for no reason
how is that an example of good AI?
>>342187213
Good eye! What you may have discovered here is an anon who was not posting with complete sincerity. They're very rare and hard to find around these parts, but if you keep your eyes open, I'm sure you may be able to spot a few more. Maybe in this very thread!
>>342185342
I would argue CE was better. Halo 2 had way too many aimbotting jackals and bullet sponges
>>342187213
>>342187969
to be fair, that's not an unrealistic reaction for someone to have upon noticing a motorcycle coming straight at them while driving down the fast lane on the freeway. If the player didn't drift into the SUV's lane, the SUV wouldn't have slammed on the brakes
Halo CEs AI is fun as fuck to mess around with
>>342188942
That's a good point. It is actually a realistic reaction to what the driver thinks is an incoming head-on collision
AI in linear games has not really improved that much since the early-mid 2000s, since you don't really need more processing power to have better AI
>>342179723
that's what they were going for
>>342190124
I'm looking forward to the day when they start using CUDA / deep-learning to do AI
>>342182580
No they will legit take bullets for their elite buddies. Just loaded up Silent Cartographer to grab some footage. You can see when I land heavy damage on the red elite the lower ranking blue elite will jump in the way. They will do this quite a bit if they are relatively near each other.
is the AI in max payne 3 any good?
>>342181424
How is that not realistic AI?
>>342193321
it's not
it's just kind of stupid that coyotes can call the police on you
how come old games have better AI than new games?
>>342178641
I remember Warcraft 3's AI was extremely hard to beat on anything above easy. Medium difficulty CPU was better than 90% of players I encountered online (but I only ever made it to be level 19 IIRC)
>>342192018
That's pretty fucking amazing. I always assumed they did that just by coincidence and were trying to make me miss them but really causing the opposite to happen
>>342193006
>is the AI in max payne 3 any good?
not really
If you play it a certain way the AI can appear to be pretty smart, though. It's just not very difficult to "break" their behavior and make them act retarded.
The same is true of The Last of Us
FEAR's AI fucking sucks, overrated shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41khFDquag
>>342171361
>/v/ thinks AI that's programmed to walk towards the players back is an example of good AI
>>342171706
>Half-life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WqAmuSXEQ&ab_channel=MarphitimusBlackimus
>>342197731
Yeah the CE elites were great. Really a challenge to fight on the higher difficulties. It's a shame Bungie kind of let their AI fall by the wayside in their later games.
>>342201110
it is good AI.
that soldier was in front of the player at the start of the fight, and he hid when the player killed all his squad mates with a grenade. Then he attacked the player from behind while the player was peering around the next corner, and other AIs from further up the map started to come in to try and sandwich the player
>>342201214
>>342201214
he said half life, not half life 2
bump
why no one want to talk about this
>>342171361
>Combat AI
Half Life 2, GTA V, FEAR, STALKER, Bioshock Infinite, MGSV
>Social AI
Dwarf Fortress.
>>342173079
My negroid compatriot, I also used to mod GTA V. I agree on the offroad pathing.
Also, each NPC has a fuckton of variables related to its combat behavior, from strafing to preferred cover distance to the enemy.
>>342178678
http://www.dev-c.com/nativedb/func/info/e2a2aa2f659d77a7
Or take a look at any driving mod like V Autodrive or Bodyguard Squads.
>>342204448
>STALKER
lol they just walk to you.
>>342194887
Devs realized players don't like being outsmarted.
Also PvP does the job too and it's much easier to code.
>>342204563
They do have the stupid tendency to walk into cover instead of running
>>342202620
It's a shame, but most people don't seem to find AI in videogames interesting. I've tinkered with it modding some games and it is certainly awesome to observe how some of the smartest AI systems work.
>>342200902
>one tricky blindspot
>hurrdurr its all shit
nah m8
>>342201447
it looks like he was trying hide again after the player spotted him, and only revealed himself to attack when the player entered the room hunting for him
What would be even more awesome is if he didn't pop out to shoot you like that unless absolutely necessary, so the player might think he snuck out of the area somewhere. THEN he comes up and attacks the player in the back as the player is fighting more people up ahead.
Modern players would probably think that is unfair to them and poorly designed, though
>>342178770
The Alien actually outsmarts the player. He's one hell of a smart bastard.
What's the noise radius on vaulting? Also when you're getting a teachable perk, of what quality will it be in others bloodwebs? 1 or all 3?
>>342171361
Outcast had insane AI when it came out, and it's good even today
>>342186216
>>342173606
>Anyway, I heard Killzone 2 had pretty good enemy AI
I heard that too. Can someone here who's played the games tell me what makes the AI so special? Anyone got any video examples?
>>342171361
I've seen these fuckers throw grenades in a way that they will bounce off walls and land on my face.
>>342207036
I know that enemies in the original Killzone would jump out of the way of grenades, but little more.
I've heard Unreal is pretty good with AI
>>342207429
yeah the bots in Unreal Tournament are pretty good
>>342171361
I assume you're talking combat AI, but Rimworld has pretty good behavioral AI. The NPCs will chat with each other, develop friendships/grudges, attempt to have serious relationships (they can even be rejected by the other person) etc.
About combat, they are pretty decent, as they look for cover automatically. The enemies are smarter though, because they're controlled by the game, unlike your people, which is controlled by you.
