>critics love it
>fans love it
>tons of great porn of it
>/v/ hates it
Who is correct, /v/ or everyone else on Earth?
>>342154781
Everyone else
/v/ is never right
>>342154781
>>critics love it
>>fans love it
>>tons of great porn of it
>>/v/ hates it
tell me one game where this isn't the case.
Obviously /v/ is correct, unless it's a game I like
>>342155106
/v/ seems too split on overmeme it scares me
>>342155193
This
>>342154781
>fans love it
>people who love it love it
>>342155106
BioShock Infinite
>>342154781
>most of humanity believes in god
>does it mean god exists ?
Tell me
>>342155106
Tetris.
Fans and critics love it.
/v/ loves it.
Not a lot of great porn for it.
>>342155256
Overwatch is great
>>342155347
people become fans if they love it.
>>342154781
you do realize that there's great porn of a lot of terrible things, right?
>>342155392
yes
>>342155392
I dunno, does God exist?
>>342154781
>/v/ is one person
i wish this meme would end.
I don't hate it, I just think they took a 10/10 concept and made a 7.5/10 game.
And the quality of the game doesn't in any way reflect on the quality of the porn. These hard working pornographers deserve to be judged on their own merits.
>>342155392
Absolutely not. Most people still believe that you eat 8 spiders a year while you're sleeping. This is absolutely not true. Spiders avoid warm wet moving places. People believe what they're told to believe because it's easier
Stop making porn of my waif...daughter you motherfuckers.
I love the porn, at least.
The gameplay is atrociously bad and the story is contrived. The only redeeming factors are that the aesthetic is bretty cool and Liz is a qt.
Critics and the general populace also generally have undying love the steaming turds of mediocrity that Bethesda Game Studios push out. That tells you all you need to know.
>>342155713
I never understood the Bethesda hate
Is there a name for the phenomenon where the child-like press feel shame for their hobby and want to validate it as an artform, so they praise shitty "deep" games like Bioshock Infinite?
>>342155926
Pretentious?
>>342155542
If you ask, it's because you're not sure. So why believe in a wizard you have absolutely no proof of the existence, and which varies in form with each culture, each defending their own and telling their or theirs is/are the good one(s) ?
>>342154781
/v/ is actually right in this case, Bioshock Infinite is worse than its predecessors in basically every way possible.
>>342155430
you see, critics love it fans love it, it has great porn and /v/ actually tolerates it for the most part
>>342155926
It's called "Mitswa Roy"
I could be spelling that wrong.
>>342155106
DOA, critics hate it
>>342156180
Well Google turns up nothing so I'm assuming you're spelling it horribly wrong.
>critics hate it
>fans hate it
>not a lot of great porn of it
>/v/ loves it
Who is correct, /v/ or everyone else on Earth?
>>342156134
I think its more the fallout 4 effect, people who wanted a bioshock game hated it everyone else found it pretty fun
It's funny how most people here who try to defend the game do so by making vague appeals to authority and not by specifying any of its merits.
>>342154781
Shit game, great porn
>>342155892
yes you do, Todd
yes you do.
>>342156574
Nice meme. Mind if I borrow it?
>>342155892
Bethesda make boring games for boring people who're easily entertained and lack the capacity to think critically.
Go look at Fallout 3 reviews and tell me it's not fucking confounding. It's a fucking swindle, and one of the greatest mysteries of our time.
Boring gameplay, story is a mess.
Graphix and presentation are the only points of merit but in the landscape of modern FPS, that's apparently enough for critics.
>>342154781
outside the porn the same can be said for most of the call of duty releases, will you contend that those are all great games as well?
>>342156446
people hate fallout 4 because it's bethesda and not obsidian/black isle. nobody in their right mind expect a real fallout from todd. not to mention his gameplay videos didnt lie
Ken Levine's marketing lied about everything, the only thing they revealed is the real downgraded graphic shown near launch.
Even Giant Bomb loves it
>>342155068
tortanic was a pretty nice /v/ success story
The game itself is a 7/10. People just splerg all over it because muh convoluted timetravel plot and the OMG ENDING. Elizabeth is hot as fuck tho
>>342154781
>fans love it
Gee, what a fucking surprise, next you'll be telling me that haters hate it.
>>342156332
Try saying it backwards
Even everyone on steam collectively loves it
>>342154781
I love the game, Wil be playing t in years to come. one of those games I can pick up, complete in a day and have a good time
Wasn't there one reviewer who actually went back and made a new, much harsher review some time after release?
>overrated crap
>brainless casuals
>baby's first shitty waifu
>>342157142
join the navy?
>>342156353
>>fans hate it
>>/v/ loves it
This is rarely true for games post-5th gen. Many modern game players have either "varied enough taste" or a lack of critical standards that they'll pretty much eat up anything they end up buying. It applies to both games that are unfairly panned by the media or those that don't take off saleswise (aka the shit /v/, for better or for worse, really likes).
The only time this is true is for old school WRPGs or other niche PC genres from earlier on, because younger players are unable to acclimate to older control schemes. But "muh kinaesthetics" is a shitty argument, anyway, so they shouldn't be listened to.
>>342156740
I had a good time with those games.
>>342157142
Oh okay, I got it. I felt like I might be missing something. At first I thought it was a Sofa King We Todd It type of thing but I gave up trying to get a message from it so I just responded normally. You well and truly fooled me.
just post the sfm already
>>342155392
No, but if some motherfuckers are to be believed reality is a simulation and we're a bunch of npcs every bit as fictional as he is.
If God isn't real and we also aren't real who's to say we can't have a crossover with him down the road BvS style. That's like an npc in Morrowind asking if Molag Bal The King of Rape is real, technically no he's not but neither are you motherfucker so you should still watch out for him.
>>342157278
>and now hired gun
LOTTA LOYALTY
Never played it. I just fap to Elizabeth. Ponytail Elizabeth is best Elizabeth.
>tons of great porn of it
If you have low enough standards to stomach SFM garbage maybe
>writing a story about time travel and parallel universes when you know nothing about either
What could possibly go wrong?
>Thread starts out as Bioshock Infinite bait
>Turns into fedora bait
Now we just need /pol/ bait and then we will have reached full bait circle.
![IrrationalGames_new_logo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PCzqNYZ.jpg "IrrationalGames_new_logo[1].jpg")
And a year later all but 15 people were laid off at Irrational Games...
>>342155669
>make what you believe is a deeply artistic and philosophical game
>spend hours designing the daughter character that the player should want to protect
>Everyone just proceedes to make porn of the daughter character you spent hours designing
Being Ken Levine must be suffering.
I liked Bioshock Infinite gameplay and story. It wasn't great, but I liked it. Fucking fight me.
>>342157994
Maybe you did something wrong.
>>342154781
/v/ is right unless you're retarded, as usual
>critics
paid shills
>fans
dumb dicksucking casuals
>porn
that has nothing to do with the gameplay
>/v/
people who can actually formulate their own opinion about shit without sucking a publisher's dick or parroting paid shills
Please don't post pornographic pics of my daughter.
>mfw all the infinite threads that were being spammed on /v/ stopped when matthew made his review
Even if /v/ never existed I still would've hated it, it was an awful game.
I don't hate it but it's far too heavy on the gun fights and the Vigors were arse.
I loved the previous Bioshocks, more so Bioshock one.
Infinite looked great but the early gameplay fucked with me because when I played the final game and it was nothing like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEBwKO4RFOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DSfjAdhlU
I was mad.
Also knowing I'll never fuck Elizabeth for eternity in multiple dimensions annoys me.
>>342157994
explain burial at sea, Ken.
>>342158148
Who?
>>342154781
Man she never fails to make my dick hard as a fucking diamond encrusted rock
I went in with an open mind as I had only seen the short E3 videos which had made it look awesome. I was extremely disappointed in everything.
>>342154781
Obvious fallacy.
/v/ of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
>>342154781
>Mediocre game with very marketable waifu is universally loved by critics
Surprised?
>>342158102
>/v/
>people who can actually formulate their own opinion about shit without sucking a publisher's dick or parroting paid shills
You know damn well that's not true in any shape or form on 4chan as a whole. No one on here is capable of making any type of rhetorically sound argument. It's nothing but greentext listing, reductive insults, and posting other people's opinions via youtube videos (see >>342158148).
>>342158185
Why is there so little of her with the tight shirt not unbuttoned?
>>342157994
>Spend hours designing the daughter character, even basing her on your own daughter to make her even more loveable. You even name her after your own daughter
>Whenever you google your daughter's name now you get pictures of the video game character you based on her getting fucked by 50 niggers
JUST
I have never been more disappointed with a game. Story was shit, too linear, bosses were shit, it was nothing like the fucking trailers. The only good thing was that shooting was smoother than the previous Bioshocks.
>>342158578
and yet, of all the popular places for video game discussion, it's still by far the most intelligent
you can get better discussion on obscure forums (usually dedicated to only one or a few specific games) or some irc channels, but otherwise this is about it
>>342158578
You forgot posting frogs
>critics love it
Lets be real here. They evangelized the game because they wanted to prove games are art.
>fans love it
Meaning Bioshock fans? No they don't. I am a bioshock fan and I prefer the first two.
>tons of great porn of it
Which the first group and the creators really don't want.
>/v/ hates it
/v/ hates and loves every game.
There isn't a single redeeming thing about Infinite
>worse gunplay than Bioshock 1/2
>worse level design than Bioshock 1/2
>worse notmagic moveset than Bioshock 1/2
>uglier than Bioshock 1/2
>"biting social commentary" is barely Schoolhouse Rock tier "racism is bad m'kay"
>infinite worldlines plot falls apart the second you put it under the slightest scrutiny
>porn is all shitty SFM garbage
>>342157994
Still not as bad as people who made Gwen from Ben 10. They went out of their way to make her look more homely with each iteration due to the porn.
>>342154781
This is a western created waifu? She looks like shit
Call me when they manage to make an attractive one
Why has nobody posted Elizabeth lewds yet???????
>>342155392
The quality of a game is subjective, the existence of an omnipotent entity is not.
>>342158148
Who the fuck is Matthew? Is that your gay lover?
>>342159298
Shit taste detected. Although in fairness, op pic isn't exactly a good one of her
>>342159321
>The quality of a game is subjective
except that's wrong
>>342157647
You going to open a religion soon?
>>342159303
This is a worksafe board for video game discussion.
People only dislike it because memes
>>342159656
Fuck off moot you faggot post Elizabeth
>>342159779
>people only like it because memes
ftfy
>>342158701
the average porn consumers arent as degenerate as you.
>>342159841
>moot
who?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEBwKO4RFOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DSfjAdhlU
>tfw we'll never get to play the original intended game(s)
>>342154781
What game is that?
How could such a great game be forgotten about as soon as the marketing stops?
Bioshock Infinite is a prime example of two things.
>A game that isn't bad, just disappointing
>A game that isn't bad, but receives unwarranted cocksucking to the point of being obnoxious
Half of the shit Bioshock Infinite advertised in gameplay trailers like vast player choice, boss battles with zeppelins, a moral dilemma with Elizabeth's powers hurting her with overuse, free roam, etc. The game is pretty okay, decent story, serviceable shooting, gorgeous art design, but there's still so much it didn't deliver on especially in comparison to earlier entries, gameplay wise
But despite this, you get shit like Cliffy B. simultaneously spitting on Roger Ebert's grave while hailing Bioshock Infinite as "true art" and it's just like... What the hell?
>>342159539
No it's not.
>>342160397
That shit was some serious false advertisement.
>>342160403
Summed it up well for me too.
All the best and worst things about this game came from outside the game itself for me.
>>342160403
>Cliffy B.
Why does the dude who only make meathead shooter have authority or credibility on "art"?
>>342154781
Everyone else who isn't a fan (critics who aren't fans don't love it).
>>342160403
But the shooting was cancer. the way the upgrading works but at the same time forces you to switch weapons constantly because X ammo doesn't exist. So you end up with a non upgraded gun if you are unlucky, but that doesn't matter when you can only use those Vox guns that you have never seen or used before.
Also the enemies are so fucking bulletsponge when at the highest difficulty.
Almost killed myself playing the game.
>>342160628
>implying meathead shooters can't be art
>>342160469
I actually wrote a detailed, carefully-worded blog post on why you're wrong but I won't post it since I know you won't read it.
>>342160398
>How could such a great game be forgotten about as soon as the marketing stops?
That's because you only visit /v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W88qeppfx7M
>>342155392
go fuck yourself
you're the reason we are flooded with arabs and asians you liberalcuck.
It's 7/10 at best. Anything more would be wasted words the game is not worth it.
Bioshock infinite is genuinely a good game.
>want to buy it
>know that if I buy it I would play it once for three hours then never play it again
thank God it's cheap
>>342161113
Not him, but I would
>>342161380
Get it, play the intro and refund it after you have the choice to throw stones at nig
That's it, you played all the good B:I has
>>342161219
Why are some gamers so stupid when it comes to art? They always point to games they see as "artistic" (read: pretentious and shit) as an argument as to why games are art. Instead actually thinking about what it means to be art, they just point to games they like or games they think other people will see as deep and artistic and say "those are art."
Also he took a minute and a half to say literally anything about Bioshock Infinite. Whatever happened to valuing your viewer's time?
Critics and normalfags like Bioshock Infinite because all they want is a story game. Single player AAA titles today are essentially just movies. No one notices or cares if the gameplay is mediocre. Same issue with Last of Us.
>>342155392
>Tons of different cultures around the world suddenly start believing in all powerful deities for no reason despite all of them being thousands of miles apart
mey-b
>>342161617
>jews
FTFY
>>342154781
>critics love it
>fans love it
This always lead directly into
>/v/ hates it
This site is contrarian by default.
>>342161503
Here you go:
https://closelywatchedframes.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/conversation-killer-to-each-his-own/
My e-mail is on the sidebar, e-mail me if you have any response. I would be happy to receive any counterarguments that would make me revisit my idea.
>>342160398
People still talk about and replay this game all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2SObDuBTSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC6oWXOy7iY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UWiYcUe6jw
>>342161548
it is easier to point to these games. even non gamers can finish them in full.
In the mind of the average joe, something that take effort is sport. Art is just something you can watch/hear/see...
>>342161802
Except Infinity is actually a shit game.
Just post porn.
>>342161706
>Jews
>In my Meso-america
Goddamn crafty motherfuckers are everywhere.
>>342161706
Yeah this time it's actually true
>still no webm posts
Am i on the right board?
>>342161914
Should we just hold up Cat in the Hat as the height of art for literature then? Good art is very often difficult, I don't see why video games should be any exception.
>>342162023
No, this is Reddit alright.
Nobody saved a copy of the full article? http://www.newsana.com/gaming/story/arts-stories-s3733057-htm
Can't find anymore on the abc.net.au site.
"In taking the game seriously, I want to be as clear as possible: BioShock Infinite uses racism for no other reason than to make itself seem clever. Worse, it uses racism and real events in an incredibly superficial way—BioShock Infinite seeks not to make any meaningful statement about history or racism or America, but instead seeks to use an aesthetics of ‘racism’ and ‘history’ as a barrier to point to and claim importance. "”
>>342161949
I won't argue that for Infinite at all man.
But let's not act like /v/ doesn't flip opinions on a game on a dime based on how the public views it.
people like shit films like inception also.
Normies love this pretentious garbage because it makes them feel smart.
>>342161949
By what merits? Actually construct a unique original argument that is not "THERE'S NO CHOICE IN THE GAME" or "IT'S NOT OPEN WORLD LIKE BIOSHOCK 1"
I have two answers to both of those. The narrative being told does NOT lend the game to be open world, and Ken Levine wants you to think about choice when it's brought up rather than worry about the ACTUAL choice. It's a conscious design decision that was stated in interviews months PRIOR to the game's release
>>342162051
effort in the way you consume it, not effort to make it.
every aaa game take hundred people thousand of hour to do.
>>342162257
>people like shit films like inception also.
>Normies love this pretentious garbage because it makes them feel smart.
And critics love them as well. Are they paid off?
>>342154781
>>342155713
>>342156557
>>342157278
>>342158185
>>342159779
This thread
>>342162201
Is /v/ obliged to like Binfinite now since le ess jay dubyas hate it?
>>342162257
This games nails why the game got so popular.
>>342157735
Objectively shit taste.
>>342162023
>>>/gif/8742497
If you want to post a bunch of porn go for it, but it's not hard to find.
>>342162359
That's my point. Cat in the Hat and Bioshock Infinite are both easy to consume. Why should those be pointed to as great art, though?
>>342162317
The gameplay is dull and meaningless. The story is an insult. Only good thing about the game is the art.
>>342158701
>not unbuttoned
You mean how it is in the picture?
>>342162460
What about that makes the person an SJW
It is absolutely true.
>>342154781
/v/.
>>342162441
DKR is actually a great analog to Bioshock Infinite, mindless trash that looks smart until you take a step back and analyze it.
>>342162459
:^)
>>342155347
>fans of the series
It literally took 1/2 a second for me to realize what the op meant.
>>342162767
But only an SJW would care
>>342162516
>>342162359
>>342162051
>>342161914
and then you have these fucking idiots arguing that game critics try to "validate themselves" by praising mediocrity and that they're "inferior" to film critics or whatever. You asshats have no idea what you're talking about and have no clue what makes something a genuinely well-made adventure or blockbuster.
Why is The Dark Knight critically acclaimed? Why is Mad Max Fury Road critically acclaimed? Or how about most of Nolan's films? You people act like just because something isn't arthouse, it's not worthy of merit. Bioshock Infinite similar to Inception and Memento are different types of art, you dingbats.
>>342162887
>That looks like my dick.
Porn of my dick isn't worth watching.
If you're going non-amateur and even further with non-real, why on earth would you not have a monster dick and go full fantasy?
>>342154781
Okay here are the reasons why i dont like it and kind of pisses me off the general praise for this game:
Level design is exremely linear
Weapon upgrades are meaningless stat bonuses
The enemy encounters are generaly easy or bullet sponge
The story is general timetravel-multiverse wich even makes mistakes with itself
The setting even though is somewhat interesting they just dont use it
The Elizabeth companion npc is just a marketing garbage
So its just upsets me that because it has pretty setting and higher end grapichs people love it this much
>>342159779
Her titties should have stayed at the pleasing C/D cup of the previews.
She wears a formidable corset, it would have been godly.
>>342161617
>Men experienced phenomenons that couldn't be explained rationally at the time and interpreted it as something else
You still believe Odin is hitting his hammer to make thunder happen?
>>342163075
No.
Not really.
It is handled badly
>>342162317
>>342163142
Infinite proceeded to take an already simplistic "spiritual" downgrade and somehow gut it even further. The hodgepodge of guns, vigors, and platforming only provide a shallow and underdeveloped version of each, and is coupled with the Bioshock series' further removal of true environmental exploration/interaction and character building. All of this stuff is simply "too gamey," and gets in the way of the mostly cinematic (read: has no agency) story.
This is a problem because it makes Infinite less an effective use of its medium than, say, SS1 or 2. Less interaction of any kind, coupled with less challenge, means that there's less of a reason this story couldn't be told as a book or film. By some (admittedly opaque) measure, it's less of a game.
>>342163257
my dick can't take much more of this
>>342162525
You're saying things. This isn't an argument.
And this is why you should never listen to /v/.
LOOK EVERYBODY IN THIS THREAD, LOOK AT THIS GUY'S POST. TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF WHY /V/ IS FUCKING SHIT. CANNOT FORMULATE AN ARGUMENT, ONLY STATES SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS IN SMUG SARCASTIC DEFEATING WAYS
>>342161869
that was a pretty good read anon, ty
You hit the nail on the head
>>342163365
>>342163340 did and i doubt you have shit to say against it
>>342163274
>Taking games seriously
>Caring about plot
>Caring about making "meaningful statements" about racism
>>342162516
because the face value of these games are easy to get. while harder/harder to get games are either unknown or it take a longass time before the frustration ends.
same go for any art form. there are different degrees of artistry and popularity.
>>342163467
I don't need games to make meaningful statements about racism
BUT
Bioshock clearly attempted to. And it was evangelized by critics for it.
And I am fully on board. It had no bite. It had nothing to say.
>>342163340
'The story is A CHASE. You cannot develop and OPEN WORLD GAME around a story that is a CHASE.
>it's not a game because there are no choices that impact anything
Then Metal Gear isn't a game.
>>342163632
>Story
It's really just about that real good gameplay
>>342155106
Dark Souls
>Critics can't beat the first boss
>Fans love it
>No good porn of it
>/v/ is mixed about it.
>>342157364
>But "muh kinaesthetics" is a shitty argument, anyway, so they shouldn't be listened to.
kinaesthetics has nothing to do with control schemes, are you trying to use a fancy word you just learned?
>>342157994
>character design is made by writers
the shit I read on /v/
>>342163403
wtf why does she have a penis??
I hate this shitty /v/ hates every game meme. Most modern games ARE fucking shit, and /v/ has a ton of older games that everyone agrees are great.
>>342163574
Why not point them to easy-to-get games that are actually great like Tetris or Mario?
>>342163715
critics LOVE dark souls.
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/bioshock-infinite-a-fan-scorned/1900-6415464/
Here's your 4/10 Op.
>>342163632
he never said anything about open world. SS2 wasn't open world. Clearly you don't want to listen, why I am bothering
>>342163698
And the gameplay is fucking incredible, wide array of guns with enemies that respond differently to each and thusly reinforce diversity, interesting magical powers, rollercoaster rails, grappling hook, takedowns, Elizabeth's tears that dynamically switch strategies up in midst of battle, immense verticality, lightning fast pace, etc. The game was fun as shit.
>>342163632
Interaction != choice or open world; I don't know where you're getting this from. It's a matter of numbers: the amount of ways to approach a challenge, expand on the mechanics, and just generally interact with everything (even if it's only as the developer intended) are painfully low.MGS has the opposite problem, by the way. It's a bunch of crazy TECHNOLOGY moments that aren't fine tuned into a structured game design.
For a better example, look at some of the better character action games: you have no choice as far as the (terrible) stories go, but player interaction comes from both deciding what combos to use when, surviving long enough to get good marks, and generally doing better each and every time. Infinite allows for none of this.
Only thing good the game created was the sfm porn following after.
The game itself is objectively shit.
>>342160397
>hrrrng dem titties
>soft moments of playful interaction underscoring the paternal view Booker has of Liz
>better Booker commentary
>Better voice work overall
>>342154781
Not /v/, that's for sure.
>>342163142
You might have a point if critics didn't explicitly treat Infinite like it was the pinnacle of art in video games. Then there's the problem that Infinite doesn't even do the game mechanics well, whereas The Dark Knight and Mad Max got the "mechanics" of film down great.
>>342163956
>all the butthurt in the comment
>>342164134
>soft moments of playful interaction underscoring the paternal view Booker has of Liz
>paternal view
>in /v/
>>342154781
Thats because /v/ is filled with shitposting weebs who only like anything to do with nintendo
basically man children
>>342164094
lol no
>>342163429
Thanks.
>>342163715
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dark-souls
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dark-souls
retard
>critics love it
>fans love it
>must be good then
>>342164108
but you do having fucking choices; see >>342164094
Besides, MILLIONS OF WEAPONS AND STRATEGIES don't automatically make a game any more a game. I don't understand what the fuck you are saying. Then literally Dark Souls isn't a game because you're basically forced to ONLY slash with a sword and dodge, there are no combos or different tools that give you infinite strategies on how to defeat enemies. You have to use your sword, slash, and evade, slash, and evade, slash, and evade.
>>342164679
>ONLY slash with a sword and dodge
>>342164679
dark souls has many tools and strategies
they are just overly complicated and flatout suck compared to rb-B-rb-B
>>342164392
Very well.
>Critics love it
>Fans love it
>No good porn
>/v/ is mixed.
Still answers the original question.
>>342164295
>whereas The Dark Knight and Mad Max got the "mechanics" of film down great.
How? Mad Max Fury Road barely has any character development and Dark Knight is overly convoluted with millions of plot holes.
>>342164850
>character development
>plothole
they are kino, not literature :^)
remind me- what is my brain on Bioshock again?
>>342164835
what is he doing in this video?
he is walking and then slashing, walking and then slashing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c1QCAYs1yE
Guess Dark Souls isn't really a game since it's not giving you any other powers to use, or giving you a rocket launcher, or giving you dummies like snake.
>>342164679
Dark Souls is not what I'd point out as being all that deep combat-wise, but it certainly has more than B: I. What you have to balance in DS is things like spacing and timing, stuff that isn't so immediate as sword/gunplay.
The choices you cited in your other post are laughable because they don't matter. At the end of the day, avoiding the failstate in Infinite is so piss easy that it doesn't matter what gun or option you use. You'll end up at the ending no matter what, just like Levine wanted. The other games I'm talking about (when taking into account that their failstates are not simply "failing to reach the end") actually require an understanding of their mechanics and systems. That's what true depth is, and the real reason "options" are so valued in a game that gets it right.
>>342164850
Those are story problems, not mechanical ones. The cinematography, acting, pacing, sound design, and special effects are the "mechanics" of those films and are what makes them enjoyable despite their story issues. Compare to Bioshock Infinite where the mechanics are mediocre at best.
>>342155193
/allthreads
>>342160986
I don't particularly mind shooters that do not give you the exact ammo you want when you want it so you can use the same gun the entire game.
Deal with the gear you got to.
>>342165374
>The cinematography, acting, pacing, sound design, and special effects are the "mechanics" of those films and are what makes them enjoyable
yeah ok, you know nothing about film. this shot is really great isn't it and warrants universal praise
>>342165208
>le single video proves my theories
what the fuck are shields, miracles, UGS with high poise (in das1) and so on?
Kill yourself faggot, you won't listen to what everyone has to say, so I'm not going to waste my time with you like the other anon is doing
>>342165610
>dark souls 2.webm
>>342165610
that isnt dark knight, that's the cia movie's after credit.
>>342163715
>no good porn
Are you into NTR though?
>>342165610
Is this serious?
>>342165860
Not him but yes
>>342165610
If you see Batman coming to kick your ass you would do the same thing and fake it.
>>342154781
Nobody even fucking remembers it.
>>342165610
The Dark Knight having shitty fight scenes (but otherwise great shots) because Nolan can't into action has nothing to do with Bioshock Infinite being a shitty game outside of the pretentious as fuck story.
>>342163045
Fans of bioshock games are either luke warm or fucking hate infinite.
I played it going in neutral and it was just a standard FPS campaign with an interesting setting. Did I miss something? It didn't seem that notable to me gameplay or story wise.
>>342166327
Name another game where you can both ride on rollercoaster rails and kill people with a grappling hook falling down in a floating city
>>342164392
>all the bad grades are from people complaining that they couldn't beat Asylum Demon
God dammit, are this people this retard? The first time I played and get beated by him, i just began a new character with black firebombs as gift. Pfiuu Tsiuu.
>>342154781
>Game came out 3 years ago
>All it is remembered for is the porn
wew
The new God of War will be just like Bioshock Infinite. Critics love the story, muh feels but completely look over how shallow it is and mediocre gameplay it has
>>342166327
its story is certainly more notable than a standard fps, for better or worse.
>>342154781
I dislike it and I am correct.
>>342166327
>It didn't seem that notable to me gameplay or story wise.
There IS nothing to it gameplay wise. The standard for criticism for games nowadays doesn't take into account mechanics or depth, but "immersion" and other vague attempts at analyzing games "artisically."
Story wise is not much different: it has big words and takes itself seriously, so "gamers" who haven't read a book in their lives think it's both intellectually stimulating and emotionally mature. By any other medium's standards, it isn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
>fans love it
WEW LAD, and water's wet. You fucking moron.
>>342166610
There are never threads about Bioshock on /v/ or Prey 1 or Rainbow Six 1, or Exile on Genesis, or Langrisser. Oh but they're not classic games because /v/ doesn't bring them up.
>>342166519
There's a ton of on rails shooters
So all it has going for it is an interesting setting
>>342161230
stay mad theistcuck
>>342161230
>if you don't believe in god, you're a liberal
Thank god your Christian conservatives will soon be a thing of the past.
>>342154781
I agree that /v/ is complete shit in many ways, but Bioshock Infinite was definitely shit.
And there's good porn of nearly every game out there, so that's a completely moot point.
>>342166519
Bionic commando(2009) which also happens to be a much better and deeper game than BI.
>>342166917
There is not a single other game where you can do this in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbv6aqJZock This world has never been made before. This is creativity unleashed.
>>342165995
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/564437/8878ce5375/
[spoilers]It's not that good though, I just find posting it funny[/spoilers]
>>342167225
>demon souls
go to sleep, grandpa.
>>342167326
If you didn't start with demon's your opinion will never count for anything.
>>342164330
>https://closelywatchedframes.wordpress.com/2016/05/28/conversation-killer-to-each-his-own/
Don't get it twisted, you cuck, I'd fuck Liz,but it would be gentle, wholesome, daddy/daughter buttfucking until she makes an ahegao face.
I wish Levine had the balls, and his crew weren;t pussyfucks, to go down that route like originally planned.
so why was the leather and copper clad bird man invulnerable again
besides the writers saying so
>>342167169
Not anyone you replied to, but you stroking their cocks make you sound like the biggest faggot ever
>Creativity unleashed!!!
>>342167502
copper and leather is bullet proof
>>342167432
if you didn't start with kings field your opinion is just as worthless.
>>342167437
art isn't meant to be controversial or disturbing you idiot, its supposed to be used to push social progress and to tell us what is right and proper
>>342155068
This really. We have shit taste.
>>342167602
I rented kings field a couple times from blockbuster decades ago. it wasn't really that good.
>>342167708
that post is 100% right and proper apart from the weebshit term.
>>342167761
>ir
delte this
>>342167602
Different games entirely. DS is basically DeS we lost the license edition. DeS is new game vaguely inspired by KF and some books I read as a kid. I did play kings field back in the day though. I didn't like it as much as armored core. AC is still the greatest mech series of all time.
>>342167225
>having sex with nipples
I just don't get it
>>342167823
So was demon's.
>>342167878
demon's souls is the best souls game though, bar none.
granted I don't have a ps4 so I haven't tried bloodborne
>>342167941
DaS2 is the best souls game. Even lords of the fallen is better than Demon's.
>>342167502
It was basically a massive, oversized big daddy.
You would need shit on the scale of recoilless rifles to bring it down, not the antipersonel weapons you get in game.
>>342168034
DS2 is the weakest though.
>>342168034
BB is the best soul game. Even Skyrim is better than DS2
>>342168034
Have you ever read an opinion and just instantly known you could never be friends with that person?
The reasons why I dislike it are far more educated and require an ounce of common sense.
The reasons why the fans liked it is because they're drooling retards, and the critics praised it because they're insecure wimps.
So I'm right and they're wrong.
Infinite is shitty storywise because there is literally zero nuance.
All Comstocks in all infinite universes are Sky Hitler so its fine to genocide them all. You don't have to worry about potentially wiping out Comstocks that were great people, or the ones that were just neutral and living their lives. And even then the retarded infinite Comstock genocide shit doesn't even work because the DLC nullifies the ending.
And the game never fucking approaches the notion that Liz is a complete fucking psychopath who has no clue how to responsibly use her powers.
And that hilariously god awful retcon of Daisy Fitzroy in the DLC. Holy fucking shit Levine just stop writing. The more you write the worse it gets.
Infinite was alright. Excellent aesthetic, okay shooting, retarded story.
I clicked on this thread for the porn
I l-love you elizabeth!
>>342168163
yes.
>>342168138
>>342168150
those two.
