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Happy Lotus day edition

8 days until release, how are you coping?

What platform are you planning on playing ZTD on?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10532964

Last few threads reached bump limit, lets keep it up!
Continued from >>342076687
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EIGHT FUCKING DAYS

Stay strong, dear fellows.
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>>342151049
>Lotus day
?
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>>342151235
Lotus = 8 in 999
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I want to play it on 3DS since I played 999 and VLR on it, but the steam version will look way better than the 3DS one.
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>>342151318
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This will probably be my last thread, going to be busy soon and won't be able to play it before 4 days after release anyway. Have to get used to staying off the internet.
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>packing about 9 inches
>it will double
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Reminder that Zero is blind.
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>>342151604
we need a new version of this image with Sigma going even further beyond
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>>342151648
Cite your sources niggerlover.
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WHERE


IS

THE

FUCKING

CIA

LEAK

YOU

GOD

DAMN

NIGGERS
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milf end where?
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The picture of Phi being groped makes me feel something deep inside but there are no other good lewds.
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>>342151814
there are if you know where to look
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>>342151442
no 3d. no point in the 3ds version now
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THAT DOES IT
MY 4CHAN GOLD ACCOUNT HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR DAYS
DAYS
I HAVE GIVEN YOU LONG ENOUGH TO PROVIDE A LEAK
I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY BROTHER
AND HE HAS PLACED ALL OF YOU INTO A TIMELINE
THAT ONLY ENDS BY PAINFUL, GRUESOME ASS-FUCKING FOR ALL ETERNITY
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FAIR WARNING.

It's time to leave now if you don't want to be spoiled.

Minor spoilers are liable to be posted from this point of the post forward.

Major spoilers will start coming out as of the 22nd.

But for right now...

MAJOR (minor) SPOILERS BELOW, DO NOT READ!

So, these aren't spoilers that are naming names, more just stuff that you'll generally want to watch out for. Still, if you don't want to know anything, don't look any lower.
Akane's motivation is more than just "I want to stop Brother from destroying the world". Whether it's good or ill natured though, is a bit more questionable.
Some of you have already caught on to this, but Zero's butterfly lapel is a very specific butterfly. Yes, it's meant to symbolize the "butterfly effect", but any old butterfly could be used for that. The Monarch and Viceroy were chosen very specifically for what they represent. So wait, is Zero the Monarch or the Viceroy? Well, it gets even better when you consider that Monarchs and Viceroys don't follow the Batesian mimicry model, but rather the Mullerian model. I can't say much more with literally giving the entire thing away.
"Brother"'s identity, when revealed, is a huge twist. But it's dwarfed by what "Brother" reveals immediately after that. This will likely send you reeling, and I can't imagine how anyone could see it coming - thought it does make perfect sense in hindsight.
Probably the biggest spoiler I'll put out before the game releases: Q's Mask. It is literally Schrodinger's Box, and inside is the cat. In most fragments, it's one specific result. However, the identity can be and IS the second result in very specific circumstances. This is all pretty much expected at this point. However, while even the second identity will probably not a huge twist, it's not supposed to be - the REAL twist, is the first identity's location when the second identity is in Q's place.
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I just want 999 junpei back. why did he have to grow up
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>>342152058
You can't lose 【Hope】, anon
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>>342151734
Dr. Kline, I'm C.I.A.
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LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED REVIEWER
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>>342152035
So what does become of Junpei and Akane's relationship anon? Are they mortal enemies now? Does Junpei cash in his money in the bank briefcase?
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>>342151049
Should've made it multi-option.

I'm planning on buying Vita/PC
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>>342152168
BANE?
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What do you think?
Spoilers from the previous game
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>>342152428
IF I LEAK THIS GAME, WILL THE SERIES DIE?
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Obligatory Snake is Brother post
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This threads still safe? I'd figure something would have leaked by now.
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>>342152231
If I pull that watch off, will you die?
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>>342151884
Wouldn't it be cheaper just to draw several HD sprites and some key scenes?
I'm not feeling these models nor the animation.
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>ZTD releases at end of June
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>>342152497
IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY PAINFUL
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>>342152532
only minor things, like
Eric being shot
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>>342152452
Add q to the last one
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>>342152532
Q Ending 1 was leaked kinda. We got a Vita screenshot of Eric dead. So I think we should be okay for now. Just hop on the ride and get off once real spoilers hit
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>>342152585
No, it's much more work to draw a bunch of scenes rather than just set the models up. Same goes for sprites if you want them to have many animations.
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Been replaying 999 and I remember now just how suspicious I was of Lotus my first time.
>when you get locked in the freezer, she seems totally unconcerned
>suggests she/Junpei/Akane/7 ditch the Snake search and find the 9 door
>suggest someone sacrifice themselves in the hospital room
I know the last one seemed necessary to them at the time, but the narration keeps mentioning how Junpei's sure she doesn't feel bad for leaving Ace, and her sympathy seemed like an act to me too.
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>>342151867
None of the stuff on paheal does it for me, and I'm not sure where else to look
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entire series is a dream

you're a cat the whole time.
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All right, it's been fun but I can't keep risking it. It's time for me to stay the fuck out these threads and /v/ in general. See you, lads.
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>>342152452
For "beauty and the genius", Q-team scans said Mira is a bookworm, and her highlighted quote was some shit about transporting koi, so she'll probably be that.
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>>342152452
>Shock and looking hands
I got nothin
>Everyone is dead except the one who is merely pretending
some Team D end ALL SIX BILLION
>Oh no! The MC...
No comment
>The mastermind is someone we know very well
(You)
>The missing one syndrome
Pass. Quark missing wasn't as similar to Snake's situation, nor as significant.
>Plot twist reflection
(you)
>Plot twist prosthetic limb
EIGHTEEN INCHES
>Beauty and the genius
Gee I wonder
>Book of the secrets
Brother's diary
>The amnesiac
Everyone
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Quick!

Post your favorite BGM!
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LEAK
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>>342153218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msjVdrDswgA

Nothing better.
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>>342153284
We've had Eric leak, Zero is blind leak, Q can be 2 separate people leak, and Akane murders Junpei with a chansaw while infected by R6, and then kills herself.
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I bought the watch edition on 3DS so I'm going to keep that, but I'm still playing VLR so i'mma end up playing it on steam.
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>>342153436
THAT LAST PART, WHAT
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>>342153218
Biotope baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJKKOpiKJGY
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>>342153284
One group has a key to obtaining the game early... but no door to use it on.

Another group has a door to getting the game early, but no key to unlock it.

Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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>>342153436
All without credible sources
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>>342153436
Calling bullshit on that last one, we've never seen anyone with Radical-6 go ballistic on anyone else, only themselves
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>>342152921
Yeah, even in retrospect, Lotus gives off sketchy vibes. She ended up as one of my favorite characters though, antagonism aside.
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>>342153503
One of the bad endings. Akane gets infected by R6 and murders Junpei. She then realizes what she did, and kills herself.
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>>342153547
my fucking nigga
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>>342153436
SOURCE NIGGER
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>>342153384
I never noticed how much of a banger this song was in-game.
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>>342153436
the screenshot sure, [Citation Needed], possible, [Citation Needed]
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>>342151049
I doubt it will make much difference but I want to play on my PC for maximum graphix.
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People from the last thread were saying Diana's hair pin (looks like Phi's brooch, but they're very different. Here's Diana's, for reference >>342099560

>>342153731
My esper.I never see Biotope in these threads unless I link it myself, it's seriously underrated.
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So what are Junpei's stakes in this game? We know he wanted to find Akane, but the way he's been presented, and his weird "secret detective infiltrating a weird organization" makes it look like he has his own reason for being in test site, aside from saving Akane from herself.

I wonder if he's a double agent. He's supposed to be a spy for Free the Soul, to stop Akane and Crash Keys, but he's actually working for a third party spear headed by Lotus and Seven.

That's my speculation at least
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>>342153874
I wound up getting too absorbed in the puzzles/story and missed a lot of the OST, desu.
Once I heard those whistling arrows, though, I had to listen to it again outside of game.
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>>342154049
He probably thinks he's on yet another ruse cruise, so doesn't take it seriously in the first scene. Of course he seems as serious and edgy as ever later, but thats the vibe I got from the comparison videos.

"Yeah sure, 6 will die, sure they will buddy."
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Anon falls in love with a game.
Unable to leak, he is gifted with a deus ex machina with the game's title ID. Never minding the strange region, he immediately begins to input the title ID and is overjoyed to find out that the game is downloading.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day’s download on his 3DS, the game loops the bootup screen. After some investigation, he finds out that the game's seed is missing. In fact, it doesn’t exist in this region at all. It is the game's alternate region counterpart, which has the seed, but is blissfully unaware of the game's title ID.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to leak each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the game of their other region. While the two chase their respective leaked ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LEAKS.
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>>342154049
Well, the mars mission was a normal thing until Zero came, so maybe he just went there because Akane was there.
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>>342154450
OH COME ON, EVEN ON /v/?
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>>342154605
Don't give it attention. It was a newfag thing to begin with; of course it would be on /v/.
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>>342151814
Post the pic
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I posted this >>342077474 yesterday and decided to fix it up a bit.
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>>342153384
Isn't this the track that plays on the last room of most routes when youre about to die?
When I was playing, after a couple runs this would fill me with some dread.
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>The main plot twist is the fact that the Radical-6 outbreak was nothing but a ruse.
>Everything was planned in advance to ensure that Akane would summon a fourth dimension being (the player) to the Test Site
>Brother wants to change consciences with you, the player.
>Brother is Snake.
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>>342153436
Literally the only one of those that are confirmed is the Eric thing. Literally anyone can go on 4chan.org/v/ and pretend to leak shit, like this for example:

HEllo everyone I'm an cynical asshole and will leak the game, Sigma switched bodies with the dog and you find out when he starts growling and woofing instead of doing cat jokes. Trust me, I know how to use spoiler tags.
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>>342154049
He probably didn't know the Mars mission would be another death game. I assume he joined all that shady shit in search of Akane, probably learning something about Crash Keys and Free the Soul in the process. I'm not sure what his goal is though, even regarding Akane, what does he expect to happen when he finds her? How is it worth becoming an underground detective/assassin/other shady shit for that?
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>>342154316
>He probably thinks he's on yet another ruse cruise
He sure looks like it. The occasional blinks make me laugh even more than the static screencap, so I had to make a shitty gif of it
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>>342155117
I mean theories are one thing but somehow some people think un-cited sources and parroting 'leaks' as truth have a larger credence.
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>>342155091
It plays in the last room of every route, before the number 9 door is found or before the Sub is found if you go down that way.
It's at that perfect moment in the game where the tension is so palpable it feels like it's about to explode through your screen.
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>>342155117
HOLY SHIT WHAT

Ok so thanks to this new leak, lets think of some theories.

I think sigma may try to skew what messages go where when he is in the dogs body. So, maybe bringing the "Carlos Here!" message to carlos when in reality its Q team trying to ruse D team. But honestly this leak changes EVERYTHING.
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>>342155234
I wonder if Kyle briefed him on everything that would happen, and that's why he joined the secret organization?
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if zero is blind how can he see what side the coin landed on?

Check mate snake boys
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>>342155308
Because we're so desperate for the game that some people believe it. I went back to catch up in the last thread,where the same "leaks" were posted, and people not only bought it, but egged them on by asking them for more
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>>342155549
Gab obviously learn to read god
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>>342154851
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>>342151884
Is it provided by Carlos and Sigma? Then uh, sign me up
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>>342152608
IT"S A BIG SERIES
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>There is a timeline where Project Bluebird was unsuccessful in getting ZE3 confirmed
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>>342155775
>Carlos AND Sigma
Don't do this to me anon
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>>342156119
There's millions of timelines like that. This timeline is the weird and wonderful one.
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>>342156119
>there's a timeline where ZTD leaked last week
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>>342156463
What if we just unknowingly switched our consciousnesses to the one timeline where it was confirmed? The one that was ACTUALLY in this timeline gets shafted.
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>>342156697
Fuck that guy.
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>>342152509
I like the idea of there being two Snakes
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>>342156697
>Implying I'm not willing to screw over countless versions of myself to get to the ideal timeline I want
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>>342156697
Morphogenetic field is real. project bluebird got enough normal people together to get esper powers!
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>>342151049
the game will be released on 30, why is 8 days today?
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In two weeks we'll all have finished the game.

It's a bit sad as well
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>>342157157
Its out on the 28th, 29th on pc, 30th in Japan as thats essentially the 29th
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>>342157157
>the game will be released on 30
Stop crosstimlining.
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>>342157157
Thats for the Japanese Anon, we get it the 28th. And then the 29th (30th for the Japanese) is when Steam Release is
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Someone said the 3DS version is likely to leak tomorrow. Their reasoning is: tomorrow is the last EU eshop update before release, so if the game is going up for pre-load like it did in Japan, it'll happen tomorrow. Does that sound legit?
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>>342156984
The Snake from 999 was not the real Snake, it was the medic.
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>>342157362
It doesn't matter if it goes up for preload in the US or EU. The preload .cia is encrypted and will need a seed file that will only be available when it gets officially released on the eShop.

The only way ZTD will leak early is if it breaks the street date and someone rips the .cia (most likely) or if someone with a review copy uploads it (unlikely).
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what if its chiko under the mask and the Q stands for Quiet
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>>342157778
But we have the seeds for USA and EUR versions of ZTD.
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>>342157778
But we have the EU seed surely

Anyway, a leak is looking less and less likely, so I'm thinking it's about time for me to leave these threads. See you fags on the other side
Probably not though because the temptation will pull me back and I'll PHI IS ZERO
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lets real talk now about leak chances when do most retailers get games before releases? when i worked at toys r us we used to get tuesday releases on thursdays and what are the odds of mom and pop stores breaking street dates on something like this
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>>342155549
>Seven.jpg
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>>342157462
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>>342158358
its funny you say that, i was just sketching out an edit but I didnt think anyone would find it funny.
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>>342158337
Mine breaks street dates constantly, but that's because I live in the middle of nowhere in Canada. It also helps that I'm good friends with the owner as well as the rest of his employees so I get early access to games if they've already arrived a few days before.
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Did Amazon run out of Physical copies or something? It's not giving me a delivery estimate
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>>342158773
Are you USA or EU?
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>>342158502
Do it, new content is never a bad thing
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Let's see if this garners a response this time.
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>>342158641
>Sanford N Son
My nigga
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>>342158870
USA
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>>342159206
USA
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Give me a summary of the events of VLR fags.

Forgot where the cast is travelling to in the timeline.
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>>342158641
>Trayvonica
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>>342159372
https://youtu.be/s8oN6XBE7SU
There's your summary
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>>342159241
USA
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>>342159542
Why haven't we gotten an english version of this yet?
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Post more Lotus
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>>342159372

Everyone has bullet time flu. They were on the moon. Sigma had his consciousness swapped with his older self to practice how to jump around timelines with the hopes that can stop the calamity of bullet time flu. Phi can also jump timelines.
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Man, this is such a good game series.
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>>342160149
Probably same reason we don't have the other trailer
No Narrator available
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_cross

Interesting, I wonder how this relates to the X Door.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT AKANE CAN PHYSICALLY MOVE THROUGH TIMELINES WITH HER WHOLE FUCKING BODY, AND THIS ONLY HAPPENED BECAUSE UCHI WROTE HIMSELF INTO A CORNER

Brother's also heavily implied to be able to do the same thing.
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>buying the Vita version because I snagged the watch bundle
>gonna get it on PC as well if I feel like replaying it
Why you would ever go 3DS aside from collection purposes is beyond me. A Vita TV is $40 or so and Spike Chunsoft hinted at 999 Vita
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>>342160592
I'll narrate it
I sound like VLR's young Akane though
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>>342160763
I think Brother was outright stated to be able to do the same.
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>>342160763
>heavily implied
I'm reading the VLR Q&A right now, and Uchi literally says " According to one theory, there are rumors that his body as a whole had time slipped to another time."

P sure he's gone ahead and jumped to Mars Test Land
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>>342159092
lel
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>>342160764
I'm tempted to get the Vita version over the PC version cause it's out a day early.
But then there's also cost because I've got spare cash on Steam.
But then again PC version looks great over Vita.
What do /v/?
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>>342161091
I'd say get it on PC unless you want to have it on the go. It's one day.
I'd get PC but I already have the watch bundle on order so I'm gonna get it for replay purposes/to get Steam goodies
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>>342160764
>Why you would ever go 3DS aside from collection purposes is beyond me.
Please don't bully, the 3DS is my only option.
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> The feelings [Junpei] has towards Akane is beyond just romantic feelings.

What does he mean by this

(Not memeing)
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>>342160947
>>342160961

It's not straight up confirmed, but coming from Uchi he may as well have said "Brother time hops will nilly with his body all the time."
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>>342161245
You don't have the money to spare for a PSTV?
Also post specs
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>>342161246
We'd never understand
We're not newtypes like them
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>>342160763
>>342160961
He's misinterpreting.

Here's the thing, the below spoiler is the most likely pseudoscientific answer.
Space-Time Quantum Teleportation.
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>>342157245
>>342157253
>>342157337
so i can get it 28 on vita? feels good man
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>>342161215
>It's one day.
You can tell who hasn't been waiting as long for ZTD.
>>342161245
Not even a PC for Min specs?
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>>342161475
Oh no, I've been waiting a fucking while. But one day on top of it wouldn't kill me
Now if it were an additional week...
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>>342160961

>Brother's hopped to the mission test site

Brother's also implied to be able to take possession of psyches, just like Akane did with Junpei.

You know what?

I'm willing to bet that in some timelines, Q is actually Brother. It's only in the true fragment that Q ends up being Kyle, and that's how you start to defeat Brother.
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>>342161246
Q93: Did Jumpei get to talk more with Akane off-screen, and if so, what about?

>For Junpei there are 45 years worth of feelings, and for Akane, a million years worth of feelings and emotions, resonating within them both.

>There is no way I can write them all here. But what I think is that there was a tranquil and majestic silence between the two of them.

> Maybe just looking into one another’s eyes was enough for them.
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>>342161246
I'd guess he's also kinda mad. It also says that he wants to free her of some burden he learns about in the testing site, it's probably related to that.
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>>342161332

Uchi literally said Akane moved out of 999's safe ending by moving her whole body to a different timeline.

I guess what you said would explain it though
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>>342161557
I couldn't handle waiting another day.
But I also don't know how much it'll cost.
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>>342161734
Here's the kicker

He's used this mechanic before, and it's explained in-detail about how it works
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>>342161332
>Yfw the game explains how we all got to Mars: the "Mars Test Site" is not a testing ground for habiation on mars but rather for long-distance teleportation technology
>yfw the whole cast was tp'ed there and many of them have made up memories from being tp'ed over such a long distance
>yfw all the "they were never there" shit in VLR is because of this memory shit altering their memories after they were tp'ed back
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>>342161851
I'm so glad you capped that, that post had me in tears
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>Tfw the horrible animations actually make Eric and Junpei far more entertaining
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>>342161813
where?
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Now then, allow me to explain the rules to you. Each of your team members are sitting in separate glass boxes, we will call them the "shrodingers cat boxes"
As it stands, they all are both dead and alive at the same time. That is to say, the poison in the boxes will have a 50% chance to kill each one. However, once a "cat" is observed, you can guarantee their survival at the expense of the other. If you choose not to open a box, they all have a separate 50% chance of dying, but they both have a separate 50% chance of living as well. If you open a box though, the one of whom you didn't open will surely die. The gamble will occur within 2 minutes, you have until then to observe one of the cats.
_______, are you willing to gamble with their lives? Or will you sacrifice one to save the other. Their lives are in your hands. You have 2 minutes starting now.

>ITS TIME TO DECIDE
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>>342161813

This makes sense, but then are you saying that he wrote himself into that corner...

...on purpose?
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>>342162282
Take the 50/50 chance, every time.
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>>342162241
In another time, another space... All you have to do, is remember... 11.

>>342162292
Bitch you underestimate his capacities.
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>>342161813
How does it work?
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>>342162282
So what you're saying is.
If I press the button, a random person will die and I'll get 1 million dollars?
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>>342162395
remember 11 isnt a part of the Zero escape series. UCHI wouldnt explain something in a seperate series!
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>>342154450
This reminds me of the
"A loves B.
But C who loves A and wants to be with her will go back in time and become their mother, something something, etc." copypaste, does anybody have that one?
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>>342161307
>>342161475
I have an old toaster of a laptop w/ integrated Directx 10 graphics card
I preordered for 3DS last year, it'd be really financially irresponsible of me now to shell out another $40-70 for another version of the game.
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>>342162282

Hold on

I GET IT

EACH FUCKING TEAM IS IN A SHRODINGER'S BOX

THE DOG IS OPENING THE BOX TO THE OTHER TEAMS

Well shit, this explains everything about the fragments. We're opening the box every time we look at a new fragment. Sometimes they're dead, sometimes they're not. Sometimes they succeeded, sometimes they didn't.

And at some point, we'll be interfering with the result through more than just observation.
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>>342162880
Well you can pirate it.
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>>342162128
where's bestboy.webm? i havent seen it posted in literal weeks
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>>342152604
JUNE DIES?
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...So, team c all lived together in this space for around 6 days. /v/, what happened? B)
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>>342162990
I might, if only to see how it runs
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>>342162395
So uchi's either batshit crazy, or he's a batshit crazy genius?
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>>342163130
Money's on both.
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>>342163071
bet theres some fucking secret doors! Theres a path inbetween the infermary and rec room in one of the other wards!
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>>342162404
I'll short-hand it.

Imagine you, right now, right here, this very instant. You live in the now, as you are and always have been.

All of a sudden, say, your power cuts out. Okay, so you go check what's up. Nothing. You try calling the electrician, but your phone says it's a disconnected number. So you wonder what the fuck is going on and decide to go out and take a look.

Nothing surrounding your house looks the same. A circle around the house clearly denotes the difference in pavement. Everything else seems decrepit and old.
So you explore for a while. It's completely desolate.

Then you decide you'd rather stay near your house, but by the time you're back, there's another circle surrounding a house, different from yours, but in the same place.

So you decide to enter the house, because it's where your house just was. The structure of the house is the exact same, just more pristine.

Nothing inside, it's as if it was just built. You hadn't realized it until a while later that you pick up the sound of birds chirping and car horns, and you look outside to see old timey cars driving up and down the road, and people clad in another era's clothes.

The 'transfer' never happens again.

That's a general gist of it.
Little bit off, but the concept is understandable.
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>>342163043

She's already died in a bunch of timelines.

Mind you, those deaths also caused the destruction of said timelines, but still.
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Is there a site with a summary of the first two games? I've already forgotten much of the story and characters.
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>>342163240

Except Akane and her mechanics are different from his other works, since her past and future self's can talk to each other and have been doing so for a long, long time.

She can also jump at will, which makes it even weirder.
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>>342163481
This should help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGiqizwCso
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>>342152035
I know you're full of shit, but I'll believe it just now
So
>Mülleran mimicry
So you're saying Zero is not exactly Zero, but is still Zero nonetheless? Zero is fucking Santa this time around?
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>>342163481

999: You're a little girl in an incinerator who's looking into the future by possessing the mind of your childhood crush in order to have him solve a puzzle so that you don't burn to a crisp, and after you're safe you have to set up that exact situation you just saw so that you can exist.

VLR: You're an old grumpy man
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>>342163824

That ganon's probably full of shit, but the Zero and butterfly thing is pretty well known. General consensus is that the Zero's are likely Santa and Snake.
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Does anyone else want Junpei to get cucked and not just for fetish reasons? It'd just be interesting to see how he'd react. I honestly doubt Uchi is that insidious, but imagine if Akane was the one who came onto Carlos and not the other way around. While he did feel betrayed by Akane before, imagine how much worse he'd feel if she did that. Would he snap and try killing them? Or...?
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>>342163684
There's a part two of this, mind you.

Draw a parallel line to this explanation and, say, Clover and Alice in 2074.

Space-Time transfer like the explanation would enable both mind and body to move through time.

Them denoting Schroedinger's Cat is purely them existing alongside their kidnapped state until Crash Keys moves them away, after which Alice and Clover can 'take their own place' with their original body and mind intact in two places at once in the same time and space.

Now, here's where things get a little fucky.
Say you have a way to move a body and conscience to a set time in history, and you also have the power to swap conscience.

How would you go about abusing this to, say... live an extremely long amount of time?
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>>342163240
Thanks
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>>342164189

>Say you have a way to move a body and conscience to a set time in history, and you also have the power to swap conscience.

>How would you go about abusing this to, say... live an extremely long amount of time?

That's exactly what he was hinting at with Brother living a long ass time, right?

He's not in the same body he started with?

Is Brother Snake? Or Q?
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wait a second does it comes out worldwide or only japan?
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>>342164172
Not really, mostly because Akane's character would be even more confusing than she already are. I'm interested in seeing what situations that might have them killing each other, though.
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>>342160195
EIGHT LOTUS HACKING
SEVEN KIDS A SAVING
SIX JUNES PERSUADING
FIVE JUMPY DOLLS
FOUR CLOVERS CRY
THREE SANTA'S
TWO SNAKES ARE BLIND
AND A HONGOU THAT CAN'T TELL A FACE
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>>342164410
My take is more or less known already, theories and all, and debating other theories is just energy consuming.

But it's very possible that Brother is manually doing what Sigma and Phi was put under stress to achieve; swapping their own conscience with their own body in another time.

He's just taking it a step further...
He's keeping himself at his peak body age, but mentally he could be thousands and thousands of years old
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>>342161734
Guys, what's the Erick leak?
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>>342164728
vita screenie of a post-decision, no biggie.
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>>342164702

Akane's already a million years old mentally, so mentally that makes sense for Brother.

So you're saying he's basically retaking over his younger body over and over and over again, then hoping forward with his younger body when he feels like it?
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>>342164728
Eric is Junpei
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>>342164814
Yeah, but what does it shows? Him being deader than disco?

Is that even a leak? Out of all the teams, team Q is easily the most volatile one.
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>>342164172
Considering the fact that he goes on to chase her for 45 years, and she mopes about wanting to be with him in VLR, I highly doubt there's going to be any kind of romantic triangle implied in team C's story.

I do expect bad end where Akane starts to get all flirty with Carlos, and then just stabs him to death when he gets close.
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If Brother can jump to any body, why doesn't he just jump to high ranking government officials and launch nukes
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>>342165025
he wants to jump into the player!
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>>342164728

Erik dies in Q-Ending-1.

There's a legit screenshot showing Mina and Q standing over a dead Erik.

4/5 people with trophies (when the leak occured) had already completed Q-Ending-1, and 3/5 had ONLY completed Q-Ending-1 (the other person hadn't completed any endings). Considering how many went for Q first, and that there's others with the game that haven't gone online but probably went Q first as well, it's super, SUPER likely that Erik dieing (which happens for SURE) happens in Q-Ending-1.
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>>342165025
His plan is to jump into a fourth dimension being (in this case, the player).

That's why this entire game happens.
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>>342165019
>Carlos gets Junpei killed in a Decision
>Akane acts like she can deal and charms Carlos into trusting her
>Backstabs him at first possible chance
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>>342164898
To Brother, the concept of time is lost. There is only the goal.

Think about it, if someone has the same capacities as Akane, why settle for 'Oh let's fuck the planet up!' as their end goal?
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>>342165025

He wants to become the Morphogenic Field.

In other words, he wants to jump into "?"'s mind. Or Blick Winkel, if you prefer.

He wants your body.
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>>342165181
>spouting headcanon as fact
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>>342165151
>no spoiler tags

What is wrong with you
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>>342165151
Due to how the game works there arr probably endings on which someone or both non-leaders die in every team.
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>>342165089
kek
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>>342165187
Yeah, I expect something like that. Junpei dies, Akane goes through a Puzzle Room with Carlos acting all charmy and flirty.

They solve the room, she kills him.
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>>342165270
He wants your body.

Ara ara~
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>>342165192

So then, serious question.

What the hell does Akane want?

She has the same capabilities, and the concept of time is practically lost on her as well. She's not seriously going to settle for "a nice quiet life with Junpei" is she?
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>>342165368
I hope brother is actually a cute christmas cake.
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Sigma will die. But his soul will choose to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will be at cat mansion. Phi who loves Sigma wants to be with him too and wants to be in a time when Sigma'd love her, but since he already loves Diana she'll go back in time before Sigma is born, and become his mother.
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>>342164596
Yeah, I was thinking that. In a Famitsu scan her quote (I forgot what it was) was said in an extremely primitive way--emphasis was put on it, even. ...I guess there's no way her experiencing a mind break and/or a significant character change would amount to anything sexual. Murder? Yes.

Nonetheless, I wouldn't mind some timelines where a previously sane team (yeah, C or D) ends up batshit crazy (without dying). Definitely would make for some entertaining interactions.
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>>342165428
>What the hell does Akane want?
Save the world.
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>>342165308

It's a VERY minor spoiler, since we already know everyone dies at some point in the game.

As well, this has been discussed to hell and back in this thread and the previous two, at which point we pretty much found out which ending it happened in.
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>>342159092
why is there a leg strap...
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>>342165428
She wants to save the world, and then possibly be with Junpei. Or maybe go on to save her brother, and then settle with Junpei.

I seriously expect Junpei to inject Akane with some Deus Ex Machina virus at the end that cuts her off from the Morphogenetic Field, freeing her from being a timelord.
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>>342165428
I actually do believe that is an end goal.

Consider Brother and Akane like two opposing King chess pieces, Black and White. Both are playing to win, and they are playing for keeps. And they can both read each other's moves in advance.
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>>342165516

And after that?

"I saved the world" is a pretty boring thing for someone who has practically transcended space and time.
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We need more Lotus porn.
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>>342165679
>And after that?

Settle with Junpei in a peaceful world. She says it in VLR. The only reason they aren't together in VLR is because she wants to save the world, and she knows he'd try to stop her.
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>>342165679
>And after that?
What more do you want? She literally spends millions of years trying to do that. When she saves the world, she deserves a break.
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Honest opinion of her?
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anybody else here hoping for an unhappy ending for junpei and akane
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>>342165679
I think Akane genuinely wants to have a nice, quite life with Junpei without having to be a time god.
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>>342166093
Semen demon. Also a great character, I started out suspicious of her, but she won my trust with each new playthrough.
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>>342161734

Which is dumb since there is no reason why he had to explain anything about any of the other endings or where she went in safe ending. Same with the fever thing. Over explaining things that didn't need an explanation. Every timeline in 999 comes from a timeline that Akane lived in and it doesn't/shouldn't matter if the ending you got isn't one where you saved her since, again, it all started from a point where Akane lived. She just viewed different splits from the past and even used a "non saving" split to give info to Junpei in the one where he did save her.
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>>342166093
I'd hit it
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>>342166093
Knew she was a good person from the start because of how much of a bitch she was
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Why no preorder on steam yet?
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>>342166114
I could deal as long as there's some proper closure, not just the distant resignation VLR had.
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>>342166114
It's going to be bittersweet for sure. No way it goes "Now this all-seeing timelord hooks up with her childhood love".

Either she loses her memories, or she has to die to create a reality where the world isn't fucked, or Junpei does something like injecting her with something that cuts off her powers.
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>>342162427
That movie was so bad, please don't mention it ever again.
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>>342166093
Probably the biggest reason I thought Dio would be a good person. I expected him to be like her, so I was pleasantly surprised when it turned out he's a dick.
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>>342166114
I am, but I'm not expecting one. She's Uchi's favorite character, she's gonna get a good ending.

>>342166093
Best girl, best ZE.
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>>342166318
Did you think Dio was a good guy too?
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>>342166408
I loved how VLR's Junpei is heartbroken to realize that to her, he's just another possibility.

If they ever end up together, it'll be with a different version of him, but the one that exists in VLR's timeline will always be the one betrayed and left behind.
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>>342166531
nope, he was so comically devious i figured the twist would be that he really was like that
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>tfw the art style had become so shit and plain
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>>342160763
Fucking telefraggers.
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>>342166830
What the fuck happened to Junpei's eyes? Is he infected with something?
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>>342166409

I still say the best ending would be that the thing that caused everything was her living through that first game, and that is why she can't find/never found another naturally occurring timeline where things were safe. Because one doesn't exist where she was alive.

Then the end of the game is burning alive from her perspective
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>>342166947
>Is he infected with something
:^)
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>>342166618
Yeah, and it's fine in VLR, but this thing has spanned two games, almost fifty years and countless timelines, I hope their relationship gets a proper resolution in ZTD whether they get together or not, as they're forced to talk to each other this time.
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>>342167031
Seriously though, how do your eyes go from being teal blue to fucking red.

It has to be related to some plot twist.
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>>342166830
I really feel like I won't enjoy it as much as the previous games because of the new artstyle.
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>>342166957
That would be a shit ending
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>>342167191
>was wearing contacts to be edgy
>Akane was sending him instructions the whole time
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>trusting nips to give you a satisfying conclusion

Have a feeling some things will be left out or to our " interpretation" .
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>>342167191
I still wanna know where the fuck his jacket went between this picture and the game. DONT DITCH JACKETS, ASSWIPE.
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>>342166830
who else /enjoys nishimura but likes tomono even better/ here?
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>>342167191
>teal blue
I think that's just the filter, pretty sure his eyes are brown in the OA. Still not red though.
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>>342167375
Right here brother
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>>342167375
I like both, Nishimura has a nice style, especially her coloring, but Tomono's desaturated look fits ZE and he's pretty /fa/
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>>342167375
I like both, but technically nishimura is the better artist

tomono's anatomy is shit and all his characters' poses look really stiff
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