This is now a confirmed TORtanic
Estimate how long until this will become F2P?
Gearbox wishes it could be the next TORtanic since that would mean Battleborn bringing in $100 million+ for a couple years in a row.
>>342130372
I never thought a game of this supposed budget could tank this hard. Was it really down to OW and Gearbox picking a fight or was it going to tank regardless?
>>342130738
Of course it was going to tank. Who the fuck would want to play this?
>>342130738
No one knew it was coming out and it happened to release pretty close to overwatch. Plus the entire thing just does not look as appealing as overwatch.
>>342130372
Overwatch will go f2p in a couple of weeks, so after this
in July
>>342130970
y'all said this 2 weeks ago and its now 10 Million players
I Dont play overwatch but come on
>>342130889
>>342130949
I just mean in the situation Randy/Gearbox didn't tweet Blizzard to compete directly, there was a large window where one would be released separate from the other. It looks dreadful but it did have 130k (?) players at the initial phase.
They went full retard trying to compite against a Blizzard game, I dont know if it is better game or not, they JUST themselves.
>>342130372
its beyond tortanic, its already force 2K to port PC exclusive Xcom2 to cover the damage
i think we will heard about studio dissolve very soon
>>342130970
>a couple of weeks
Try a couple of years. It may be a flavor of the month game but they're not going to experience a crisis like battleborn is.
>>342131303
>Gearbox will die
After what they pulled with Colonial Marines, that isn't anywhere close to what they deserve.
>>342131156
I don't really think the tweet had anything to do with it, It was just embarrassing.
>>342131469
That E3 Demo looked so good;_;Glad I waited for reviews, saved a pretty penny.
>>342131156
>130k
>Overwatch had 10m before the game even released
woow
>battleborn is so dead, even the schadenfreude threads are dying
>>342131469
Nothing really bad about colonial marines.
It's a mediocre but playable shooter set in milked to death franchise.
Neither DNF was that bad either.
>>342132236
>Nothing really bad about colonial marines.
If it wasn't advertised so falsely it actually might have gone through the critics and fans a lot more smoothly. But what we saw and what we got were far too different for it to not be considered anything but bad.
>Gearbox staff are leaving one by one
>lead writer already left
HAPPENING
>>342131194
they revealed the game and release date before overwatch. It was just bad timing.
It still doesn't make sense, because TF2 is still better than overwatch. When I played overwatch, I was always thinking "man I wish this was TF2."
Hype matters more with games than quality. That's the only reason battleborn didn't do well. It didn't do well because hating anthony burch is a meme.
>>342130738
>Lets make a game
>Similar in design to TF2
>At the same time one of the biggest game companies in the world is doing the same exact thing
>That will go over well right?
>Make a bunch of money with Borderlands
>Lose it all with Battleborn
Lol
>>342132378
>Gearbox staff are leaving one by one
Heard the lead writer left but source for the first? Don't blame them if true.
>>342132365
What really happened is that journos and youpoopers chimped out on jap publisher which failed to bribe them. And considering Sega is literally run by criminal, serves them well.
>>342132378
Does this mean Anthony Burch will never get work again?
Remove items and make it 3rd person. Bam it's fixed. I still regret buying it.
Doesn't matter Gigantic is coming anyways and it's a more moba version of Overwatch without going full mobatrash that's actually good.
>>342132046
The last thread had 530+ posts and was autosaging. That is possibly more than BB has player at the moment.
>>342130372
I honestly think that F2P would put Gearbox in further debt. They would have to pay for servers to handle the new players and I doubt many people would pay for any kind of cosmetics in this hideous fucking game.
>>342130738
I keep seeing people say this stupid shit. Like yeah, if they hadn't responded to OW on Twitter it would have somehow sold better, hurr de durr.
It sold bad because it looks bad. I gave the game a chance by watching a bunch of gameplay videos. Both official ones and ones by players, including streams. Everything I saw made the game look boring as fuck.
>>342133031
Is that goatse?
Threadly reminder.
>>342132517
>Battleborn
>Anything like TF2
Fundamentally wrong. But I'll give you Overwatch, to an extent.
>>342132236
>It's a mediocre but playable shooter set in milked to death franchise.
have you fucking played it?
It was broken garbage
I played it like 2 hours and I usually fucking love shit games but this was so garbage I quit because after first 10 minutes of funny shit, it became just ovberall absolutely boring.
Bad and boring is the worst anything can be.
>>342133075
Yup. The logo looked like one hand opening up an asshole so I added the other hand to boot.
>>342132396
Not everyone is from 4chan. 99.9% of gamers have no idea who Anthony Burch is.
>>342130738
>MOBA FPS Hybrid that does neither genres well at all
It was going to tank, overwatch was just overkill that makes this a TORtanic in terms of failure.
>>342130970
Don't kid yourself, anon. New heroes maps and game modes and all that extra shit is gonna be released for free, there's no reason why their 10 million player install base isn't going to peak in with each major update and keep Overwatch alive for years.
>>342132396
>"man I wish this was TF2."
>still liking TF2
I bet you enjoy Reddit humor too.
THIS IS THE BADASS HAND THAT WILL CRUSH OVERWATCH (MORE LIKE BLUNDERWATCH HAHA GET IT)
AIN'T THAT RIGHT MY FELLOW BADASSES?
It would have failed regardless of the circumstances.
>UE3 game without an anti-cheat system
>lobby-based grouping without a working matchmaker
>horrible optimization
>horrible QoL
>simply the ugliest game I've ever played. Horrible artstyle, horrible 3d models, horrible UI.
The base mechanics are fun under ideal circumstances, but the systems actively prevent those circumstances from ever occurring.
I enjoyed the first week of playing it when everyone was excited and learning the game, but I uninstalled it after the second week. There is nothing they could ever do to make me reinstall it.
>>342133346
On top of that the FPS and MOBA genres are already over saturated, making a combination of both was like adding more piss into a sea of piss, it was never going to stand out.
Just another one to add to the gigantic list of MOBAs that didn't make it.
>>342133525
They shouldve kept the borderlands outline artstyle
>>342133525
Why the fuck is everything so contrasted and saturated
>>342133525
Why is it that like 75% of the gameplay I've seen of this game is on a gamepad? Even some of the most-viewed streams (when people were actually watching BB streams) were playing on console.
I guess it goes to show it really isn't much of an FPS.
>>342133525
My god the UI looks like that one picture with the fingerless glove meter
>>342133525
Jesus that looks awful.
>>342130372
LETS PLAY A GAME
https://battleborn.com/en/battleborn/attikus/
PICK A HERO, WATCH THE VID AND SEE HOW MUCH "QUALITY" YOU CAN FIND IN IT.
BONUS POINTS FOR FINDING A CHARACTERS FULL VOICE VID AND SITTING THROUGH AS MUCH OF IT AS YOU CAN
>>342131194
Everyone in May outside of Doom got boddied by Overwatch. Uncharted 4's been slashed as low as €30 in Europe already because sales just cratered as soon as Overwatch came out, never mind Battleblunder.
Never mind Battleblunder looked like every fake game you see on TV shows like Doom and Killer Instinct (Except Doom and KI are actually good games).
>>342130372
The irony about the Tortanic, is even though it almost killed EA and murdered their stock price for a time due to the terrible launch, it's now a very lucrative property, grossing something like 160 mil yearly, almost outstripping the 200 mil cost. They've already made substaintial profit off of it.
>>342133951
To be fair, people might be waking up to the fact that uncharted games are at most worth 15$.
>One lane fucking MOBA
Do gearbox devs huff petrol?
Imagine if this game became popular for the sole reason that people shit on it so much for being suck a monumental flop
Kind of like a meme
>>342134137
no, they huff cock
>>342133525
>even normal MOBAs have problem with too many effects on the screen during team fights
>lets make a FPS MOBA!
>and add blinding effects everywhere with the screen puking colors
Even without Overwatch this would be a flop
>>342133582
Not a single decent FPS has been released in years, and MOBA is an utterly meaningless title at this point.
People are calling every game a MOBA these days. Yeah, a lot of people are idiots and will ignore games simply because it has that acronym in the description, but it's definitely not the reason the game failed.
>>342133969
That's because it's a genuinely good game now.
I didn't think a comeback like that was possible.
>>342133969
Battleborn will also probably become profitable after F2P simply because people are retarded. Still hilarious while it lasts though.
>>342134328
How actually good the FPS games are is irrelevant. It's a very popular genre right now, with plenty of games that most core gamers like.
>>342134125
It flopped compared to sales expectations anyway (Selling just as bad as Halo 5 did) and sales cratered after it's release even with Sony's damage control "2.7 million" statement two weeks after release (It should have been doing well over 4 million with the amount of PS4's in the wild).
Overwatch was just pissing on it's corpse by the time it came out. Lobbies in UC4 are totally empty as well, so the Multi didn't take off either.
>played battlebored open beta
>was pretty fun
>would buy on sale
>didn't get into overpriced beta
>looks and sounds fun
>no fucking i'm paying €50 for that
>would still buy on sale
Looking forward to starting job and get money to burn like all the people who already bought this game.
Is gearbox really so starved for creative ideas that they had to name a game after a nord clan in Skyrim?
>>342133525
What the fuck is even happening, everything is so fucking saturated, WHY?
>>342134617
Would you play the game if it was named "Shitfuck"?
>>342134137
Surprisingly, the maps and game modes are actually pretty fun if you're not playing with and against retards.
Gameplay is pretty solid and polished and general.
It's just not enough to make up for the fact that every other aspect of the game is beyond utter fucking unplayable garbage
>>342134909
Did you mean to write "shitlord"?
>>342134505
Aside from overwatch, what other titles are you talking about?
This game would have flopped even if Overwatch did not exist, Gearbox has had a shitty track record for garbage games it doesn't matter if it was the only moba shooter in town
Prove me wrong faggot.
>>342134909
That would've at least given the game some easy exposure and free PR.
>>342135261
who are you talking to anon? no one in the entire thread has disagreed with you.
>>342132918
Gigantic is really fucking good, I'm in the core beta right now. I think it's going to be a while yet until they release, though. Still pretty unfinished.
>>342133879
Holy shit. In that Let's Play video he tries to walk through a gap between two rocks but can't. Game design doesn't get worse than that.
https://youtu.be/Vo0TVjjB79w?t=35
>>342135098
I dunno why Overwatch shouldn't count.
CS, CoD, Battlefield, and TF2 alone have a lot of peoples' attention, and people who are looking for more niche experiences already have those covered much better by many other games than Battleborn.
>>342135098
Want a fun, casual game with interesting heroes?
Overwatch.
Want a more serious game with interesting heroes?
Team Fortress 2.
Want a serious/casual game without heroes?
Battlefield/ CSGO/ COD.
Want a MOBA with some shooter elements?
Smite.
Want a shooter with some MOBA elements?
Again, Overwatch.
Battleborn was appealing to an audience that was vastly smaller than they anticipated. Not a lot of people want a full MOBA and FPS combined and on top of that not a lot of people want a super colorful and "progressive" game to boot.
>>342133951
>>342134508
>People talking about OW assfucking other big releases on consoles
>The Shitmart I work at didn't even sell a dozen copies across all 3 platforms for the first 2 weeks it was out
Sure sure, anecdotal evidence and all, but usually even my podunk city's location sells typical big releases (CoD, GTA, Madden, Fifa, etc etc) hand over fist, while OW wasn't even a blip on the radar.
>>342135346
Not him, but several people have implied that the reason BB failed is because they mentioned OW on Twitter. It's an incredibly stupid assertion, and I doubt there are more than like 5 people who actually think that, but they exist nonetheless.
>>342135732
>>342135706
It's not that Overwatch doesn't count, it's just the one I already assumed was on your list. I genuinely didn't know what other titles you were talking about except maybe CSGO.That being said I played it in both stress weekends and found it to be one of the most boring games I've ever played.
>they have a LITERAL le penguin of doom
You fucking cannot make this shit up. Ten year old shitposters copypasta are written on-par with Gearbox's best and brightest.
>>342135651
WoW has more exciting combat than that.
>>342135261
Nobody will prove you wrong, and anybody that tries is just baiting. Gearbox are hacks who have proved that they were only capable of creating the one hit wonder that was Borderlands. (Which had its art-style entirely plagiarized from the artist of Codejunkies).
There is a decent core game under all the hideous colors and shitty characters and if the game was made by a competent developer I'm sure it could have actually been a success. But it was doomed from the beginning.
Can someone explain what's actually wrong with the game? Is it worth playing when it goes f2p?
>>342136014
Quick, somebody post the comparison of activating some generator in most games and how Gearbox would write the player instructed to activate the generator.
>>342130970
lol
>>342134328
Can I just take a moment to say that I absolutely loathe the term "MOBA", I loathe Riot for trying to coin the term in the first place because they couldn't think of a better way to describe their game aside from "Its like DotA", and I loathe all the assbreathing retards that actually continue to use it to describe games despite being one of the single least descriptive acronyms ever devised by the English language?
>>342133525
what a fucking mess
>>342133525
hhahaha that looks so fucking awful
>>342133969
Swtor is a pretty good single player rpg now. You can level using only the story quests and dungeons have a solo mode. it's pretty fun. I would have still preferred Kotor 3 but they managed to polish a turd.
>>342136014
>tfw what few decent characters they had (S&A, Miko, Marquis, Rath etc.) are ruined by fucking meme characters.
>Blizzard will never buy the scrap, and turn said heroes into overwatch.
God dammit Anthony Burch I will never buy a gearbox game again.
>>342136495
ONE FOR DA LAND
>>342136386
Runs like shit, looks like shit, the core mechanics are solid but the game surrounding those mechanics is fucking awful.
Just listen to some of the HILARIOUS dialogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdP2U_26Nik
It would be decent if it was F2P but I still wouldn't put a single penny into it.
>>342133525
>At first thought the arm was reloading arrows or some shit
>Is actually just the running animation
>>342136386
Poor visual design, got to grind for characters and lack of impact in attacks and gameplay.
>>342136528
Is this a good time to tell you my company is working on a MOBA featuring cows?
We're calling it a MOOBA.
>>342132738
I thought he already left pham
>>342136780
I honestly am kinda excited to try the game when it eventually goes f2p. There is a game somewhere in the rubble of that shit.
>>342136950
He did, but they still offered him to help write for Battleborn and he took up the job.
>>342136386
Just watch some gameplay footage.
It's one of the slowest looking FPS I've ever seen, outside of single-player ones focused on story and exploration.
>>342132236
>Nothing really bad about colonial marines.
https://youtu.be/Y5WwV9YoW_U
>>342136386
grind for characters, visually ugly, cluttered design. Plus all the bordermemes crap.
basically fps and moba do not mix when its this slow.
HAHA WACKY AND FUN DIALOGUE
WE AREN'T LIKE THOSE OTHER GAMES
WE SWEAR!
WELL, NOT SWEAR PER SAY,THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY UNCOOL!
DON'T WORRY BROS, WE CENSOR THAT SH*T!
HAHA PLEASE PLAY OUR GAME OUR FAMILIES ARE STARVING
>>342132517
>Same exact thing
Confirmed for not even knowing the two games. Battleborn, mechanically speaking, should be more appealing to a veteran FPS audience, but its UI is ugly as fuck, the environment is ugly as fuck, the characters are ugly as fuck, and the animations for everything are extremely repetitive. They had a good system that could have been popular if they didnt royally fuck it up. Its the only game that I dont want to buy simply because of the visuals. They think that cramming every color in the rainbow into one scene makes it pretty, but it doesnt.
Battleborn characters are so damn ugly, no wonder why it failed.
They look like characters from a cheap and lame action GCI filler cartoon made in Canada in co-production with some Eastern European country that would be played in Disney XD early in the morning and that kids would skip because it's shit, and they would watch some lewd pirated anime in their tablets instead.
Gray-Manes rule.
>>342131303
>gearbox studio dissolve
i dont mind if they die i just want borderlands 3 with all DLC then they can die
>>342137376
Didn't they model that bitch in front with the red eyes after Brianna Wu?
>>342135651
Man, those hands and horse are so annoying.
>>342136857
They just keep proving this right.
>>342130372
>TORtanic
not even, most people didn't even know about it until it released, and I doubt there was a large budget for it either.
>>342133525
-why is >she scratchign the air?
-the arm is so fucking small why
-why did they kept borderland's saturations and colors but not the outlines?
-why is there so much bright colors flashing your ass
-the UI is hideous, why would you even need the picture of your character ?
god damn, it's basic game design
Which tanked quicker Brink or Battleborn?
>>342136857
Best hud
>>342130372
I don't think Gearbox understood the market well enough. Its two biggest competitors were Overwatch in aesthetic (aka the most overhyped shooter in recent history) and SMITE in gameplay (aka the game that offers $20-30 for all heroes vs $40-50 for a base game with confirmed DLC). Who the hell was expected to buy this?
>>342137741
Brink managed to hold a few thousand players for about half a year. So its safe to say Battleborn.
>>342137803
>can actually see what's going on better in the left image than the right
Sort of sad.
>>342137493
It seems like it, funny thing Literally Wu hasn't mentioned Battle-born in Twitter, and Wu is praising Over-watch big assed characters instead.
>>342137947
That isn't UI fault.
That's game aesthetic fault
Battleborn UI is still shit tier, that's not the question
>>342133126
That is just plain sad.
>>342138171
>Brianna Wu twitter
>"For the love of God, try to avoid describing women as "females""
Are there really people like this out there?
>>342137493
Can't be that model looks female.
Brianna does not
I wonder if there are still more posters who posted here than the amount watching Battleborn.
>At least it costs more than a controller that's healthy!
> 2c
>>342136857
>we want the reddit audience
Seriously, it's trying so fucking hard to be "le wacky dark" it's painful.
>>342139647
Besides, the 9,97 sign says it's for an ethernet cord or something.
>>342130372
>This is now a confirmed TORtanic
The Old Republic is actually a massive earner
>>342140102
So the controller probably costs more
>>342140463
Just checked their website, the controller is 62,99€
