Will OoT be finally dethroned?
It's been dethroned with every Zelda after its release.
>>342127029
Everything is possibel to be honest
It looks amazing in therms of graphics ( for a Zelda gme ), new technology, combat, gameplay .
It is the game Nintendo put the most manpower in their history if this gae doesnt turn out to be amazing you can say the Nintendo magic is dead
>>342127230
>Everything is possibel
This is wrong.
>>342127029
Maybe. The reason I loved OoT was that it was an awesome adventure. BotW looks like a bigger adventure.
>>342127320
prove it
>>342127029
MM, WW and TP were all better games.
>>342127029
Sooo.. LttP?
>>342127320
Don't respond to braindead tripfags.
>>342127029
Not even last of us dethroned the 99/100.
Mario galaxy games got close with 96-97 but thats it. It's impossible now because journos.
It going be a good game but far from get a perfect score.
>>342127405
>>342127135
Get a load of these hipster contrarians hating on the greatest Zelda ever made.
>>342127029
LttP beats it every time
>finally
It's been dethroned about 10 times now. Hundreds of times if you include other games. Anyone who goes around worshiping OoT in 2016 probably loves Obama and would elect him for another 4 years if possible. That's how stupid you people are.
>>342127396
Make a dog go faster than the speed of light. It is not possible, therefore not everything is possible.
>>342127581
Are you fucking retarded
>>342127528
How is that the hipster opinion? Half of being a hipster is clinging to outdated shit.
OoT isn't bad, but it's definitely not as good as the 3 games that came after it.
>>342127568
Different times, Different games.
>>342127581
>Make a dog go faster than the speed of light. It is not possible
Prove it
![1463562108526[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/LAP2k81.gif "1463562108526[1].gif")
>GOD TIER
Link's Awakening
The Oracle Of Seasons
The Oracle Of Ages
>GREAT/STILL ESSENTIAL TIER
The Hyrule Fantasy
Adventure Of Link
>PRETTY GOOD TIER
A Link To The Past
Twilight Princess
A Link Between Worlds
Minish Cap
>PLAY IF YOU MUST TIER
Ocarina Of Time
>BAD TIER
Majora's Mask
Wind Waker
SHIT, SHIT, AVOID AT ALL COSTS TIER
Skyward Sword, the DS games
>>342127647
You obviously are.
>>342127230
>It looks amazing in therms of graphics
I think it looks like shit. The brown haze and lack of contrast is not something my eyes are going to enjoy.
I'm not even talking about graphical power. I've already come to terms with the fact that the Wii U is underpowered, but even then, games can EASILY look good, like 3D World, Xenoblade Chronicles for Wii, and Smash.
>>342127723
Being a hipster is going against the popular opinion, which is OoT being the best Zelda, because it is.
None of the 3D games it had that much of an impact.
And WW is fucking trash, too. Literally OoT but worse in every way.
So yeah, keep going against the river flow, contrarian.
>>342127738
>Everybody who doesn't like OoT is underaged or something
No, I started with the original Zelda on the NES on its launch. And I'm telling you, OoT is a shitty game. People only think it's good because there was a period where it was the only game of its style and they were too stupid to know things would get better. Even when I was a kid I knew there would be much more to this genre than pushing blocks into holes and B spam combat.
>>342127818
>2Dfags thinking their bleep bloop clunky shit is good
>>342127029
>Will OoT be finally dethroned?
Nothing will come close ever again
>>342127754
I threw a tennis ball at the speed of light and it couldn't keep up.
>>342127904
>listen to me, a jaded 40-something year old man
>>342127029
>WW and TP timeline
>The Master Sword is worshiped inside temples and all sort of legends
>AlttP timeline
>The Master Sword is deep in a forest and its existence and importance is only known by a few sages or scholars
Why?
>>342128253
defeated timeline
>>342127029
No. Zelda oot is a zelda game. This is just a skyrim copy.
No because OoT came out during the 2d-3d transition and blew people away. Product of its time. Games weren't being made like that before OoT. Since OoT to this day they have. The game won't be dethroned until we move into the next age of vidya which will likely be fully functioning VR.
>>342127818
Zelda? More like Tumbla
>>342127859
Being a hipster is not liking something just because it's popular. Liking Twilight Princess or Majora's Mask more isn't "hipster"
>>342128150
He's right, though. I can't understand why do people suck OoT's dick when pretty much every game afterwards is better.
>>342127818
>tier list courtesy of bizarro land
>>342128253
link died to ganon in OoT in alttp timeline so no one gave a shit about the master sword
in wind waker timeline he kicked the shit out of ganon in the OoT fight so it was a sword of legends that needed to be worshipped and protected etc
>>342127859
>Being a hipster is going against the popular opinion, which is OoT being the best Zelda, because it is.
>None of the 3D games it had that much of an impact.
True.
>And WW is fucking trash, too. Literally OoT but worse in every way.
Fucking hipster.
>>342127029
The best is spirit tracks. The worst is majora's mask.
Hahahaha
>>342127818
clockwork empire makes me so mad
if i wanted to play as zelda, i'd like to play as ZELDA AS ZELDA, not ZELDA AS LINK
she's a character capable of taking care of herself via diplomacy and magic, and if we take in account the whole sheik thing she'd have great stealth shit going on in a game around her
making a proper zelda RPG would be baller, why do these people want just switched roles?
>>342128150
go team hotdog
>people shitting on Spirit tracks
I legitimately liked it. What's the problem with it?
Ya, the trains are kinda weird to be in Zelda, but it's ok.
>>342127568
>implying Obama isn't better than Hillary or Trump
>>342127818
>prince Link
fuckin idiots, Link is just a placeholder name for the players link into the world, why would the prince you rescue be named link? the protagonist girl is Link, and the Prince should be Zeldork or whatever. Legend of Zeldork.
>>342127831
That contrast issue was actually the stream quality. For some reason the stream made the game look like the gamma was all the way up. Go on youtube and look up footage of the game that wasn't streamed by nintendo, or look at the trailer on nintendos youtube page they posted a few days ago, both look so much better than what was on the stream
>>342127818
I can get behind the idea of a playable Zelda, but Link as royalty?
He didn't read the lore did he.
Also your taste is shit.
>>342129038
>>342127568
V I D E O G A M E S
>>342128381
Except it isn't :^)
>>342129234
please post about video games instead of complaining about others' posts.
OoT was released at the perfect time to a particularly receptive audience. BotW doesn't look genre-defining or that unique.
>>342127405
>TP
>>342127135
How does it feel that Jontron is more popular than you now?
>>342127405
>WW
Not with those garbage tier dungeons, padding and shitty overworld.
I know it was your first Zelda, but let go of your nostalgia. WW is mediocre.
>>342130663
Jontron has been pretty damn shit ever since he sold himself to Disney and moved his productions onto that new set instead of shooting it in his home and wherever else.
>>342127029
>People thinking the two games are going to be comparable
What OoT and BotW are trying to do is completely different. The only previous games that BotW remotely resembles are the original and Wind Waker
>>342129735
I guess we will have to wait until Zelda transitions into 4D
>>342131378
>and Wind Waker
That's kind of a cop-out because it's easy to focus on exploration when the map is mostly water.
>>342127029
No. People don't remember OOT because it's a great game, they remember it because it was important. It defined a lot of rules that the entire 3D action-adventure genre would follow for decades. The Citizen Kane of its genre.
BOTW will probably be an awesome game (and on an objective level probably better than OOT) but ultimately it's another entry in the most tired genre of its time. Being a memorable sandbox game in 2016 where the competition is "weeaboo chronicles XXVI", "Assassin's Creed 15" and "MGSV: The Phantom Content" isn't much of a feat.
>>342130901
OoT is better than the original WW but WW is better with the HD fixes
>>342131487
The map was mostly water because the game wanted to focus on exploration
The first game Aonuma referenced as a starting point for BotW's development was Wind Waker. Wind Waker HD was made to prepare themselves for it.
>>342131378
Sorry bruh, WW is still a linear game.
>>342131627
Well it's very different to have an open-world game on a water map than it is to have one on a fully land-based map.
>>342127230
>possibel
>therms
>putting spaces around parentheses, before periods
is english not your first language
>>342131724
It's almost as if the game is aiming to evolve off of Wind Waker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GisRY6h100U&t=20m
The two games he talks about are Z1 and Wind Waker. My post is not up for debate
>>342131731
A map with fuckall to do doesn't stop WW from being a linear game in structure and progression.
Let me remind you you can't even "explore" the map until halfway through the game and most islands have fucking nothing in them or are blocked because you still don't have X item
>>342131931
You being a retard isn't up for debate.
My point is that it's pretty easy to make an exploration game when you can rely on all the gaps between your limited content just be water.
If they did that with BotW (who knows how empty it will feel at this point) that would be really dumb.
>>342131931
He also talks about Twilight Princess
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/71674/20160309/legend-of-zelda-wii-u-features-twilight-princess-hd-nintendo.htm
TECH
'The Legend Of Zelda' Wii U's Features Greatly Draw From 'Twilight Princess HD,' Says Nintendo
Christopher Groux , Design & Trend
Mar, 09, 2016, 12:23 PM
Tags : Legend of Zelda, Wii U, Nintendo, video, Amiibo
"The Legend Of Zelda" Wii U
(Photo : Nintendo/YouTube) "The Legend Of Zelda" Wii U releases soon, and Nintendo has revealed that the game will take cue from 2006's "Twilight Princess." Its director recently hinted that the 2016 title includes existing features that were scrapped from the older entry. Will Wolf Link return?
"The Legend Of Zelda" Wii U is one of the most elusive titles that Nintendo has ever developed, but the game's director recently teased some feature inspirations from "Twilight Princess HD." His exact words can be read below!
The hints come to Design & Trend directly from Nintendo's "The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess Retrospective" series. In last week's fourth episode, Eiji Aonuma scattered a few clues for fans to decipher.
Specifically, he said "I'm working on a new 'Legend of Zelda' game now. One thing I've realized as I've been working on it is that a lot of the things I want to do with this new 'Zelda' game are things I thought of while making 'Twilight Princess.'" He qualified the statement by saying "I can't talk specifics, but to me, 'Twilight Princess' was a starting point, making it possible to do what I'm doing now."
Now that musou fags and open world fags got their way
Can I have my Ganon May Cry now?
>>342132006
>>342132054
Holy shit, are you butthurt
I never even commented on Wind Waker's quality. Just the fact that the game is serving as blatant inspiration for BotW along for Zelda. The evidence is there. Aonuma fucking said it himself. Get over it
>>342132181
We already saw the Wolf Link amiibo
>>342132303
Wolf Link amiibo has nothing to do with what he said.
>"I'm working on a new 'Legend of Zelda' game now. One thing I've realized as I've been working on it is that a lot of the things I want to do with this new 'Zelda' game are things I thought of while making 'Twilight Princess.'" He qualified the statement by saying "I can't talk specifics, but to me, 'Twilight Princess' was a starting point, making it possible to do what I'm doing now."
>>342132439
>>"I'm working on a new 'Legend of Zelda' game now. One thing I've realized as I've been working on it is that a lot of the things I want to do with this new 'Zelda' game are things I thought of while making 'Twilight Princess.'" He qualified the statement by saying "I can't talk specifics, but to me, 'Twilight Princess' was a starting point, making it possible to do what I'm doing now."
He probably wanted to evolve on Wolf Link's capabilities which many criticized for being too simple in the original game
>>342132303
*along with Zelda 1
>>342132187
chill dude
I know open-world is currently the hip thing to develop, but the original Zeldas were all open-world
It's gonna be alright
>>342127029
No. OoT is overrated. Nothing will beat it.
>>342128574
same reason why mona lisa is considered so great but its just a small, regular painting of some shit woman
>>342132925
I like the mechanics of the game and it looks fun. I know it's just a demo but I see an astonishing lack of polish in animation and that makes me a bit disappointed knowing the talent of the devs.
I don't have any problem with the way the game looks but I know they can make better animations to give it more life.
>>342127029
OOT, MM and WW are basically on the same level of greatness. Personally, I prefer MM because of the atmosphere which I think is better than in OOT. My second favorite is WW, I dont really know why, theres just something about the game I like a lot. OOT is my last favorite. Its pretty good, but the story is not so original as in MM or WW.
Also TP is shit. SS would be a great game, but is ruined by stupid shit like Fi and every place=enclosed dungeon. Its a shame because the dungeons were one of the best and the atmosphere was great too, mainly in the sand area.
>>342127029
No.
BoTW will be amazing from a gameplay perspective, but I have a gut feeling it will fall apart in most other prominent aspects as a result.
That includes
>music
>story/lore
>NPCs
>atmosphere/immersion
>pacing
Message to all underage posting here:YOU HAD TO BE THERE
Twilight Princess is objectively the best Zelda game with the best story, lore, characters and combat in the series.
The only other games that come close are OoT and ALTTP.
People spouting shite about Majora's Mask should be ignored.
>>342127029
As the second best Zelda after Majora's? Probably
>>342134594
Why? It looks great in those apsects so far.
The story is going to be ptional so it might actually be subtle and well-written instead of forced and cringeworthy like SS was
>>342134967
I liked TP only when I was inside a dungeon
Everything else made me want to kill myself
>>342135020
>music aspects
>great.
The main theme that plays near the end of the trailer was fantastic, sure, but have you listened to the regular combat or open-world miniboss music yet?
Shit's awful. Literally worse that SS's ost stuff.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the base story is some bland shit to make up for all of the mini-stories going on through side quests...
...which won't be thought-provoking or emotional because Neo-Nintendo doesn't like to challenge its fans or its gamers from a semi-mature or developed standpoint now.
>>342127568
Obama did more good than harm and you know it
Shitty /pol/ poster, get away from my vidya
>>342135390
>...which won't be thought-provoking or emotional because Neo-Nintendo doesn't like to challenge its fans or its gamers from a semi-mature or developed standpoint now.
Zelda traditionally does a good job telling apocalypse stories
>>342135241
What specifically did you dislike and why? Interested in actual discussion, not just angry memes
>>342127029
>Will OoT be finally dethroned?
People say this whenever a new Zelda is announced.
NO
>>342127029
>open world will be empty and lifeless, akin to MGS5/Far Cry
That will bump it below 99/100 easily.
Normally Nintendo scores are very high because they reach low (mario games are just platformers, aka babies first video game, basically impossible to fuck up), but BotW is actually ambitious, so it will probably score pretty badly.
>>342127029
Possibly.
I do feel as though BoTW will lack something that'll put me off it.
Perhaps the story, it does seem pretty sparse at the moment (although I am aware they did keep towns and stuff hidden to not spoil the plot).
Although I guess it can't be any worse than Skyward Sword's "hour of cutscenes" yet still manages to be one of the most disappointing plots in Zelda history.
I'm hyped, but there are some red flags.
>directed by Fujibayashi. The guy who made Skyward Sword.
>obvious sequel to Skyward Sword, the worst Zelda.
>this game is made with story first again. Nate dodged this question which is how I know this. OoT was good because they designed the game blindly and then worked in the story after.
>the story is disjointed like Majora's Mask, where you can rush straight to the boss. I can infer this because the shrines are analogous to masks. If you want the whole story, you gotta do them all. I like this, but I don't have faith in this style of gameplay under Fujibayashi. It could be another let-down like Seasons... or worse, Ages (please God, no.). -_-
>Bill avoided the story at all costs, refusing to step foot into the Temple of Time. It tells me the story isn't very deep, and he was afraid that if he brought up Hylia, we would be able to sus something out and spoil the game.
>something about why they chose to only show off the tiniest, most compressed region in the game; and mentioned that it's okay to have "pockets of emptiness."
>Amiibos. I get Wolf Link; the data transfer novelty is cool. But the Link and automaton miibos, is distressing. It tells me, that like the Sheik/Zelda, Ice Climbers, and Ridley scenarios for Sm4sh. It's not all about the gameplay, but selling toys.
>only one dungeon has been shown off, and Aonuma says dungeons still have only one entrance. This tells me dungeons are not the focus of the game, the world is.
What a drag....Still very hyped though.
>>342136143
fuck you, oracles was fun.
>>342136143
They didnt show any dungeon
>>342135672
The dungeon design was amazing and it's the game's strongest point. On the other side you have the slow pace and tedious wolf bug hunts.
I thought the story segments were solid but I didn't give a fuck about a bunch of kids who treated me like shit so I wasn't invested in that part of the story at all. The overworld was empty and there really wasn't much to do with your money.
Biggest offender was difficulty with ridiculous damage scaling.
It's been a long time since I played it so I'll give it another go right now
>>342135462
>>342129038
>supporting Obama
Hes done more damage to this country than any president before him. Trump is the only way we even remotely have a chance to fix just a fraction of the problems he has caused.
If Hilary gets elected, we're going to be set down a path of authoritarian left that will result in the deaths of millions of citizens, and put those remaining into poverty
>>342135390
The music is supposed to serve an ambient role.
I can't believe people still don't get this.
Having a Hyrule Field OST in the overworld would get annoying extremely fast.
And I much prefer the combat music to something like WW, which completely ruined the atmosphere of a lot of scenes with its fucking repeating nature.
>>342127831
To be fair, before xeno came out, everything they showed was washed out and bad looking
>>342136143
>-_-
>Avatarfagging
>RPing
Opinion discarded and kill yourself.
>>342128106
I don't know looks like a lot of games came close by that chart.
>>342138712
>Zelda music
>having an ambient role
That's already a problem.
Meanwhile, the music that plays during the Talus mini-boss fight is by no means ambient - it just sounds like straight-up Mario trash.
