Who was in the wrong here?
>>342071072
Both of them, though Vincent was worse
>>342071392
yeah but the pregnancy scare was a bit much dont you think
>>342071072
that old hag of course
Catherine is best Catherine
>>342072748
she should have told him she wasn't pregnant sooner, but didn't she think she WAS pregnant for awhile?
>>342071072
Dealing with these bitches was like alignments in SMT, even the one I like trys to dissuade me as much as possible and I end up dropping both
>>342071072
_athrine is best girl.
>>342071072
Both for not properly communicating with each other.
>>342073131
>communicating
You don't understand how to write drama obviously.
>>342071072
Vincent was a tool that couldn't go two scenes without making an awkward lie.
Katherine lied about a life-changing issue.
Catherine was a Beelzebub aiding a magical system of illogical mass murder.
None of them were particularly great.
Why is this game so good.
I could replay it anytime.
>>342073310
Puzzles and bar trivia
>>342073073Qathrine
>>342073310
Might be the ost. It was tight as hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzPga31K98&index=42&list=PLA93F8D7D32FD8F47
>>342073310
The world's biggest comfy
Also good gameplay
>>342073659
>I always joked with my friends that a third one that was a perfect middle ground in every way would show up with that name.
>>342073242
Pretty much. Playing it now and all the major characters seem incredibly irritating and one-note.
>>342071072
Both for their own reasons.
Best girl is clearlythe soundtrack.
>>342073659
Queatharine?
It's normal male behaviour to want to have sex with as many women as possible
The problem comes from women wanting the same and ruining the nuclear family
>>342074573
So we should all be able to fuck each other with no consequences for either gender. Sounds good to me.
>>342073562
>bar trivia
I really loved those.
>There are people I know in real life who prefer Katherine
>Even after I explain that Katherine faked a pregnancy scare on you
>Even after I explain that Katherine cheats on you with a guy in the Golden Sheep
>Even after I explain that Katherine is essentially hands off with you all the time, and spends all of her on-camera time lecturing you and getting annoyed with you
>STILL go for Katherine because "muh glasses!"
Seriously, if you look at it objectively without considering looks, Catherine is far an away the superior girl. Why on earth would anyone willingly pick garbage?
>Get Catherine true ending
>Become demon lord
>Go back to the surface andcuck Katherine back
>>342075337
I imagine he just shows up to her once and awhile as a "Perfect man" just to lead her on over and over for his own entertainment.
>>342075252
>katherine cheats
wait what when did this happen?
>>342075578
It's implied in some dialogue during the nightmares.
>>342072748
Vincent needed that.
Why does this game have random trivia about alchoholic drinks?
>>342075578
I don't remember too many details of it. There's a guy in the bar who mentions that he made it with a hot consultant girl who showed up for his clothing company or something recently. Katherine is a design consultant for clothing, and if you look at some of Katherine's actions around that time frame where you talk to that NPC, some of her actions were kind of suspicious.
>>342075815
I think that's there just to play with the players mind so they go with Catherine.
>>342075524
To be honest demon Vincent probably fucks Katherine into succubus and keeps her around as breeding bitch
>>342075758
You spend time at a bar to chat up random people and order stuff on the side. Also getting drunk does benefit you during the puzzle sequences if I remember right.
https://youtu.be/g9SB7U7kXoE
Catherine really feels comfortable before tackling the stress of a night puzzle.
What was this game about anyway?
Did this guy cheat on his girlfriend with someone with nearly identical name?
>>342076526
Chaos ending best ending.
>>342076885
You didn't play it?
It was about a succubus tempting an innocent manThe succubus is still the better girl though
>>342076885
You basically summarized most of the plot.
>Catherine
>Semen demon who collects semen from hundreds of guys
So if you pick her you're cucked?
>>342077045
LIke an actual succubus?
>>342077047
Yeah, but what about the gameplay? Is it really just a puzzle game?
>>342077220
Some platforming and moral choices
>>342076885
People are being found dead with strange expressions after going to sleep healthy.
Vincent (you) starts going through a rough patch with long time girlfriend, Katherine, and suddenly a hot piece of young ass Catherine appears and starts trying to seduce you.
When Vincent sleeps, he finds himself in puzzle mazes where people personified as goats are falling to their death from incarnations of stress and shit; that's right bitch this game's a hardcore platformer puzzler with L/N/C decision making.
It's a blast.
>>342077176
The ending has you stopping her from screwing other guys through the power of your penis.
>>342077220
Oh yeah, your character gets nightmares which is where the puzzle section comes in with you climbing a tower and it's all symbolic and shit.
oh lol, it uses the same netimmerse engine as morrowind.
>>342071072
Both were in the wrong.
Vincent was a loose cannon that thought his indecisive lifestyle with lack of any goal towards the future meant he was free, while in truth he was pretty much a bum.
Katherine was too controlling and demmanding, but Vincent needed that, still she resorting to faking a pregnancy was too much.
>>342071072
Both.
Nobody raped anyone!
I like Katherine, she's not crazy. Well I mean not as crazy as Catherine. She seems like a nice person and a childhood friend. So I mean yes, the preg scare was horrible but man.. I wouldn't care if it was fake.
Space is best girl
>>342075252
>if you look at it objectively without considering looks, Catherine is far an away the superior girl.
I never knew Catherine fags were this brainwashed by her wiles.
Catherine is flat out a batshit insane succubus that only starts liking Vincent when he puts up against her father.
Katherine just wants Vincent to stop living like a carefree loser, while Catherine made vincent become some super power fantasy that stands up to her father.
>>342077941
You're literally defeating your own point.
Also
>Allowing a woman to dictate how you live your life
>>342077791
Catherine isn't scary, she's fun
>>342078056
Defeating my point, how? Katherine made Vincent a better man in a real society, Catherine is some make-believe story that makes Vincent a ruler of hell.
>>342078109
She criminally insane and physically abusive.
>>342077941
Catherine fags are brainwashed from this crazy women, literally theres a rule called "don't stick your dick in crazy" She's fucking crazy. Also Katherine is fucking loyal and just wants you to spend more time with her.she never cheated, she was scared that you were slipping into a route where you didn't know where to go. Also everyone on here is bad at being committed to anything so hence why they choose a stupid piece of shit and to go to hell and fuck more girls.
You're a good person.
If you didn't use Catherine as a vehicle for your ambitions of dominance and power than you dont know SHIT ABOUT DEMONS.
>>342078449
Welcome to the world of yanderes, have fun
>>342078382
>>342078452
>fantasy videogame
>the best choice is supposedly being an average normal guy instead of ruler of hell
You're boring me to tears
>>342078452
I know not to stick my dick in crazy, but this crazy is really tempting, especially since she only acts crazy most of the time because of vincent being an asshole.
>>342078568
Catherine is for children that dream of becoming a fantasy character.
Katherine is for men who want to become respectable members of society.
>>342073242
There's nothing to suggest she actually lied. If she was stressed about her job and their relationship, which the game absolutely implies, that can make your period late. False positives happen with pregnancy tests too, that's why you go to a doctor and get a blood test to be sure.
>>342078742
But they're all fantasy characters
>>342078719
the best choice is obviously SPACE NIGGA, SPACE.
>>342078742
I would agree with you if K didn't bore me to tears. Space is probably the most fitting ending atleast for me it was.
>>342074573
So men should be promiscuous, women shouldn't be.. lots of gay sex then?
Will Persona 5 top Catherine's OST?
https://youtu.be/VXeL4Iwh11w
>>342078382
Vincent is a better man how?
>Has a job
>Has an apartment
>Has friends
>Has a girlfriend
He's already passing societal judgement with flying colors here. What did Katherine do exactly for him? Oh right
>All of his stress comes specifically from his girlfriend pressuring him constantly to do shit he doesn't want to do
The only thing she changes about him is getting him to make a decision about her in specific. Her ending isn't even that great. You get to marry a psychopathic liar and cheater.
>>342078728
>especially since she only acts crazy most of the time because of vincent being an asshole.
What? Are you twisting the facts to conform with your perfect vision of Catherine?
Catherine literally beats Vincent over a childish tantrum.
>>342078912
>a psychopathic liar and cheater.
but that's Catherine.
>>342078835
I'm pretty you can make a hellish rocketship and take all the space trips you want
>>342075815
That's clearly to fuck with the player though. Cheaters are often paranoid about their partner cheating.
>>342078927
Said tantrum happening because of his own stupidity. Also I don't even like catherine as I am a different person then the one you were talking to, I just don't think she is crazy as people say she is.
>>342078728
No shes crazy all of the time. Not worth it.
>>342078719
Fantasy Game, yet I'd rather be choosing a happy life of getting married and sharing a good relationship with a genuine person that cares with all of their heart. This is a thing most people don't get nowadays, so why not wanna live the experience in game to dream of having it eventually in real life.
>>342078382
Wait are you seriously trying to argue that Katherine is the better choice because it's a work of fiction and succubi aren't actually real?
Fucking lawfags I swear to god
>>342079135
She only really showed herself as actually crazy and not just harmless threats at two points
1. Was because of vincent admitting his cheating
2. Was a fucking dream
Also in the ending she shows herself to be more stable, the whole crazy part is probably just to fuck with vincent's head.
>>342079135
Because it's fucking boring
I don't play game to have realistic stuff I could get in real life
I play them to get a succubus harem and conquer hell
You people hold humanity as a whole back
>>342078742
Katherine is for pathetic normies who are so desperate for the approval of others that they will doom themselves to a dreary half existence denying their true desires.
Catherine is for manly men who seek to exert control over their situation and usurp the plenepotentiary of the netherworld.
>>342078719
I really want Vincent's shirt, but people would think it says RAPE if I wore it in public.
Realtalk: If I could take over hell or have a qt wife in real life I wouldTake over hell in a heartbeat because thats fucking metal as fuck bro
>>342078912
Being an indecisive bitch baby is his fault, you don't string people along for years. If he wanted a casual relationship he should have found someone else who did too.
>>342079368
If they say anything correct them
>>342079284
>the whole crazy part is probably just to fuck with vincent's head.
Now you are wondering a little too much, there's absolutely nothing in Catherine's personality and behavior that supports your thought that she was "merely pretending"; she only seems more stable at the end because Vincent has become her ideal man by then.
>>342078912
Her ending where they don't get married yet and take it a bit slower seemed cuteUntil it reveals that vincent is still unhappy with it and she is still in a way ruining his life
>Catherinefags have to make up lies about Katherine to cover the fact they're retarded
>>342079135
This is the kind of faggot who goes reset ending in Nocturne
I bet he'd play a magic build too
>>342079505
>she only seems more stable at the end because Vincent has become her ideal man by then.
She sure has a lot in common with katherine then
>>342079368
>letting that stop you
you couldn't pull it off anyway numale
>>342079505
I guess, although it is all up to interpretation as a lot of shit in the game is. I'm not saying she is completely stable, I'm simply saying she isn't as crazy as most people make her out to be. How about we agree to disagree before this becomes a shitfest?
>>342079313
>Catherine is for manly men who seek to exert control over their situation and usurp the plenepotentiary of the netherworld.
So people who seek to imagine themselves as ruler of a dream world, instead of having what it takes to brave real life, got it.
>>342072881
This, she just found out a day or two before she told him
Neutral ending is the best.
Both Katherine and Catherine are shit.
>>342079717
Not him but I play vidya to escape real life. Because real life fucking sucks.
>>342078912
>do shit he doesn't want to do
But this is a good thing, I want someone to harp on me for not really doing much of anything or doing daily stuff that should be done cause you're a fucking adult. You kids no nothing about being an adult.
>>342079295
With that attitude you'll fucking get nowhere.
>>342079603
It's just how it is, can't go right with a Catherine fag.
>>342075337
Would be neat if he was a secret boss in p5 or smt5
>>342079717
But you aren't brave enough to real life, just a fake version that makes you feel good with yourself because it represent real life, you are more delusional than people embracing netherworld because at least they know its fake
>>342079789
I'll get to the top of hell with this attitude and smite god himself
>>342079784
Yeah nah, fucking poser.
Vincent was an average man with an average job, going to Space probably destroyed his savings.
He probably cried himself to sleep after coming back from that trip.
>>342079717
By that logic Katherine is for people who are unable to engage in a stable, socially acceptable relationship in real life so instead imagine themselves as a milquetoast salaryman with a nagging wife.
>>342079784
This is objectively correct.
>win a shitload of money
>go to space
>free to live out life at your own pace
>maybe one day settle down when you're honest to god ready, rather than rushing into a choice you don't want to make
>GO TO SPACE
Best goddamn ending.
>>342079980
Good luck dude, your opinion is still shit.
>>342080121
>>342079784
Fucking this. My brothers we ride into space.
Everyone forgets that Katherine's actual unforgivable sin was walking away at the end instead of giving Vincent another chance, not the pregnancy thing. It was his first time cheating on her in 5 years of being together, and the circumstances surrounding it were definitely very strange. Player choice be damned, getting back with her was definitely what Vincent wanted, it's only when she dumps him even after begging for forgiveness that he is up for trying something else (C or Space).
>>342080235
Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6UOa22akeY
I guess the morale of the story is
go out with Erica.
>yfw you realize it's down to drills vs himecut
>>342080383
But dude, she walked away for a good reason. Cheating is unforgivable and is a taboo. I'm surprised she let him have another chance by the time of the ending.
>>342078902
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vokYx5igm4A&list=PLAL9SwtY26S0awdn6P3q_4iOGZMBYkUV0&index=9
>>342078912
The game over exaggerates each ending but I think that's fine.
Katherine is thinking of leaving Vincent if he doesn't marry her soon, they are getting to that age and society would expect her to start a family soon. She manipulates Vincent using the pregnancy scare but otherwise is a decent if not controlling potential spouse.
Neutral ending let's Vincent get rid of the one thing that's stressing him and push forward to try new things. The only negative implication is that maybe he isn't ready for a relationship but that's hardly the worst thing in the world, right?
Catherine ending turned into the ambition and a little selfish ending, but its not exactly a horrid outcome. Vincent takes control of his selfish tendencies to give himself what he wants and become ambitious. The demon shit is all a representation of that.
I think all the endings are fair and fit the character concepts pretty well, And will resonate with the people who feel similar. Good game, 10/10
>>342079450
To be honest, considering how much pressure she puts on him, I'm willing to bet cold dosh that Katherine's pressure is the only reason why he was still in a relationship with her at all. From everything in the game, it seems more like Vincent just settled with a girl who gave him just enough sex to not leave, but in all respects is a poor fit for him.
>>342071072
Easily in my top 20 games ever, might add it to my 3x3 even.
>>342080473
Himecuts forever. FOREVER. Also best anime girl, pic related.
>>342079789
>You kids no nothing about being an adult.
>Calling other people "kids" that don't no[sic] about adult life
>NEEDS other people to tell him to get shit done.
Katherine defenders are the worst.
>even considering marrying a cunt who would lie about a pregnancy scare
>not dropping her like a hot brick
y'all need to get your shit together
>>342080943
Who's gonna tell him to get his shit done if he can't do it himself? Not Catherine, not his friends, not himself.
There are people out there that need help being pushed to do things. I have to push my mom to do things like doctors, changing her plate of her car, pay her bills, check her blood for her diabetes, and other things.
He's one of those people.
>>342081353
You are babysitting your mom, not helping her to get his shit together, the right way to do it is the Catherine way, and that's why Vincent actually becomes independent in that ending
>>342081353
>Who's gonna tell him to get his shit done if he can't do it himself?
Nobody, anon. You can lead a horse to water and all that. You can force Vincent to do shit, but that's just getting him to fulfill his quota. That's not actually giving him the real motivation he needs to have a fulfilling life. That's something he can only do for himself, and people who put pressure on you to do those kinds of things, such as parents and loved ones, tend to do more damage in this regard, pressuring the person until they enter a state of depression.
You can tell he's not "one of those people" simply by the fact that at the end of the game, he becomes incredibly self-motivated without anyone's pressure, regardless of which ending you choose.
Katherine literally does nothing all game except drag him downwards.
Inazuma is THE BEST technique.
Prove me wrong
How about instead of discussion we post the lewd catherine photos because i'm bored as shit of this argument?
>>342080005
He used the money that he bet and won more than enough to do that shit without drowing in debts.
>>342082067
>Not spidering
That being said if you weren't doing all of these techniques before the tutorials showed up you don't know SHIT about anime qbert.
>>342077550
It's honestly surprising just how well they did with the gamebryo engine. Then you look at how fucking badly Bethesda works with it and you realize they were the ones that created it in the first place.
>>342079603
>implying both of them aren't total cunts
Dropping them both is the only right choice.
>>342082686
I was using Inazuma for ages but to be honest 3 block Inazuma was some next level shit for me.
>>342083029
The engine works fine.
It's just Beth's programmers/animators are completely incompetent and cant do shit.
They did sid's mierers pirated on it too.
>>342083391
>It's just Beth's programmers/animators are completely incompetent and cant do shit.
That's what I meant. Beth are so fucking garbage they can't even make anything good out of the engine they created themselves. That's downright embarrassing.
>>342083512
They didnt make the engine.
It could be impossible anyway with their expertise it could probably bsod your pc or even fried your computer by how bad it could be.