What is the worst map in Overwatch, and why is it pic related?I'm trying to get a group together to play this on Xbone who aren't total assholes.
Gamertag is brianc36 if you're interested. Mics preferred, but not required. Mines shit, so I don't use it unless I really have to.
>inb4 people saying to go to OverwatchLF
Everyone on there is a tryhard sperg or just looking for someone to play healer for them.
One bump before I let it die
>not embracing the best torbjorn map in the game
wew lad
>>342070247
Well that's a lot of fun until you're on attack with a bunch of spergs who don't know that snipers destroy his turrets in two or three shots and refuse to not run out and get mowed down by them.
>>342069514
Any map that ISN'T KotH
You seem to have confused Volskaya with Hanamura
>>342071025
Volskaya and Hanamura are pretty similar except for the fact that Hanamura doesn't look like someone splashed blue onto everything.
>It's a 2cp map with a giant choke point in the middle episode
>>342069514
>wants decent team
>doesnt use coms
you do this to yourself
Dont be such a shy beta and fucking talk. Nobody cares that your balls havent dropped yet. In fact consoles are predominantly children anyway
>hanamura
>attacking team caps point a and then point b literally 15 seconds later
>swap sides and next team does the same
great map
>>342069514
>Overwatch
>on xbone
>>342069514
>Overwatch
>on consoles
honestly, no word of a lie, overwatch has some of the worst level design i have ever encountered in a multiplayer shooter.
>>342071834
>>342071923
>wahahahaha lmao look at this guy playing a console babby shooter on a console
>>342071616
Did you miss the part about my mic being shit?
Every time I speak there's a bunch of static in the background that pisses everyone off, so I prefer not to use it.
>>342071834
>>342071923
Why do people consider it so bad that I don't want to go out and buy a high-end PC to play games I can buy on something I already own?
This and hanamura are the two best maps in the game.
Kings row is the worst.
Not even trolling.
>>342072231
buy a new one then. Literally $10 for console mics.
>no comms
>good teamwork
Pick one and only one
>>342072387
kings row is literally the de_dust of overwatch
>>342072231
>>342072070
>High end
The only reason you would ever want to play on a console is so you could hook up a KB+M and shit on everyone because you aren't gimping yourself.
>>342072402
I plan to, it's just I have a controller with a 3.5mm port now so I have to find a good one that works with it.
>>342069514
it's Numbani
thanks for the fuckloads of bloom every time I exit a building overwatch
I sure do love migraines
>>342072484
You think aiming matters in Overwatch? With those god awful hitboxes? With the favour-the-shooter shit? With the IWIN buttons that many heroes have?
If you play Overwatch you're already a no-skill shitter, regardless of whether you play on PC or console. Protip: it's designed from the ground up to be a console shooter.
>>342072231
>>Why do people consider it so bad that I don't want to go out and buy a high-end PC to play games I can buy on something I already own?
Because playing an FPS with a controller is fucking retarded. You might as well break out the fucking bongo controller.
Also retarded: owning an XBONE. Why would you own an XBONE? Ever? I mean the sonyponies and nintendrones have their exclusives that they get to bang on about but every fucking XBONE game is on PC, and plays better on PC.
It's a paperweight.
>>342072721YA YO YI
>>342072925
I'm a big Halo fan, and I thought to myself that Halo 5 couldn't possibly be bad, and that they must have learned their lessons from 4.
Volskaya is fine. Just have your team come in from both sides so you can potentially flank their defense on their right while they're distracted by your mates to their left/front. Tracers are a real pain for the defense, so many corners and health packs she can take advantage of. At least my team and I do struggle with Tracers being there because nobody wants to play high noon man.
I have come to dislike Dorado just because of the final stretch up the ramp. So many times the defending team has stopped us there and only a few times we could manage to still win. A Mei on the defending team can block the entire way because it's so fucking narrow, a Reinhardt or Roadhog are even too big to go around the left side of the payload without hassle.
>>342072925
because i don't want to spend 800$ on a meme machine where the best games are mobas, rts, and mmo's. duuh.
ill never understand you pc nerds bunch of fucking dorks who like to brag about how good their games look rather than actually enjoying them for the game play.
lol kys.
>>342071834
my thoughts exactly
>>342069514
So much fucking fun on defense with three or more Torb's. Pure anti fun for the attackers because that first point is a bitch when it's well defended. But still so much fun.
>Good tier:
Gibraltar
Lijiang
Nepal
>Ok tier
Route 66
Kings row
Hollywood
>Bad tier
Illios (only because of the ruins map)
Numbani
Temple of Anubis
>Shit tier
Hanamura
Volskaya
>>342073205
>>342073205
>best games are mobas, rts, and mmo's
Those are just the games that the PC has that the xbone doesn't. The PC also has all the games that the xbone has. The xbone does nothing that the PC doesn't do better. At least the PS4 has exclusives.
>>342073241
why am I suppose to care about this image?
Niggers fighting over a ball is for another board jock faggot
>>342073463
doesn't change the fact mobas,rts,and mmos are what do best on pc and that multiplats don't sell well on pc as they do on console. where a multiplat on pc will be dead within the next 3 weeks where on console they get played for months.
>>342073390
>Numbani
>Bad
Best payload map desu, followed closely by Kings Row.
>>342073601
>>342073463
>At least the PS4 has an exclusive
fixed that for you, only worthwhile game on ps4 is bloodborne. i own a ps4 and as a pc owner i will never deal with the god awful windows store shit even if i want to play xbone games. so owning an xbone isn't too bad.
>>342069514
Hanamura is the worst map by far.
It's the only map that is consistently banned in tournaments, and every pro team has commented on how it's incredibly one-sided.
>>342074114
You could say the same thing about Anubis to be fair. Both of those maps are incredibly biased towards the defenders in the way they're designed.
>>342074276
anubis isnt that bad mate
it just snowballs incredibly fast
Dorado best map
>>342073981
>looks like shit
>jocks think they can into computers
>>342074506
>the jump looks fake as fuck
>glass is still on the hoop after it breaks
>glass just disappears mid air
I really don't like Hanamura or Anubis. Defense seems too strong on them. Haven't played enough of Volskaya to judge it.
>>342069514
i fucking love this map, fuck you.
also does anyone else hate control point maps? i wish there was matchmaking beyond just "quick play" where i have the option to choose not to have to play control points
>>342074630
Isn't it supposed to be a reference to NBA Jam?
>>342074873
yeah it is
>>342074276
Anubis is banned, but not at 100%.
Hanamura is literally banned in every single Tournament, it's been that way since open beta, because taking point B is virtually impossible.
>>342069514
>Xbone
Let me guess you hate this map because of the moving platforms which Torbjörn can place his turrets on and it kills your entire team before you can aim at it with your shitty controller?
LOL!
>>342074276
>anubis is defence sided
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edZrdXKO3UA
>>342069514
>fps
>console
>>342074986
>all console players must not be able to aim! I bet they all suck, because they're all the same unlike me, who is part of the epic PC gaming master race!
>>342069514
Volskaya is only shit if everyone attacking is trying to squeeze through the damn gateway.
>>342075142
But that's true
Am I the only one that really likes the double capture point maps? There's something really satisfying about making a strong first push, grabbing the first point, getting ulti's on everyone and using them to quickly cap the second point while the enemy team is still sitting on 50% charge, it just feels like you're playing correctly I guess.
Its the same on defense too, having a really solid defense that doesn't even let the first point drop is fun, or the times where the first point goes horribly but the team is able to defend the second point for like 8min.
Maybe its cause on the capture point maps I love to play Genji, the ability to run past any defense, get on the point, force the enemy to break their defense to deal with you, collapse on them with the team and use dragon blade to clean up on the second point is satisfying as fuck.
>>342075231
Then why is there competitive gaming on PC? If it's so easy to aim, why would there be any difference between players?
>>342075416
Yeah, they're pretty fun with the right people. The problem is you usually don't have the right people.
>>342075183
You can also cross that flank with Hanzo if you aren't a shitter, MAYBE Junkrat too but that's a stretch.
>>342075467
You do know Torbjorn turrets are literally balaced differently on consoles because of the limitations of the controller? They have a slower lock on speed, the dev team has also mentioned how they will be balancing pc and console differently, they cited examples like Tracer and Reaper being much stronger on consoles because of the input limitations.
Its not a case of "hurr console players are shit" but instead the controller has hard limitations that the M+KB does not.
>>342075780
I have no clue how to do it with Hanzo, but I kept falling short with junkrat, he might be able to pull it off.
With hanzo can you just run up a wall, jump off and then run up the wall again going sideways until you make it to the other ledge?
>>342075761
Very true, I mainly play with a stack so thats my perspective, I can see how they would be annoying in pubs.
>>342075142
>>342075467
Fun fact:
Torbjörn has 74% winrate on console, the highest of any hero, and has received an exclusive console nerf, because he was too strong.
So yes, console players can't aim. But not because they're retarded, but because they chose to play the game with a shitty input method for FPS games. Well maybe taht actually makes them retarded
>>342075142
Its literally documented that widow is ok on console and torb rocks because controllers inhibit precise aiming you peasant.
>>342075968
Console player here, I never struggle with him.
All you have to do is switch to Widowmaker and shoot the turret a couple of times, and he's the easiest character to headshot.
![hanamurasniping1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/45NtTXT.jpg "hanamurasniping1[1].jpg")
>no fucking flanks
>not even a cheesy off the map one
>just invisible walls
who THE FUCK thought this was a good idea
>>342075903
Yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzqLhn0HgvU
>>342076095
Yes, of course you don't, because he has been nerfed, you mouthbreather.
>>342076141
>Can't even see the room on the right side that any Tracer or Genji could dash through
I bet you also say the first point of Anubis is a choke.
>>342069514
They're all equally horible. Chokepoint after chokepoint followed by a final point that heavily favors Defense, with shitty spawn timers and ultimates that ressurect/shield/heal for massive amounts to help stall even more. It's ridiculous.
>>342076342
No he hasn't, faggot. I guess a google search is too complex for you, though.
>>342076418
if those two points ARNT chokes then what is?
>>342069514
If the defending team has even 8 brain cells between them they will never lose on this map. I always just leave whenever I'm set to attack on it.
>>342069514
>overwatch
>consoles
>Now traveling to Vols-
>Leave
>Now entering the Te-
>Leave
>>342075034
5 Soldiers and one Lucio is a surprisingly good team.
>>342073981
...sorry if really retarded, but...
That's not real right?
LA LO LI
>>342076578
The point im trying to make is it would be really hard to make an actual choke point in overwatch as long as Genji, Tracer and to a lesser extent Pharah, Winston, Hanzo and Junkrat exist. It would need to be like a roofed corridor that was longer than 2 Tracer blinks or something similarly outrageous.
>>342076971
Sure it's real. Since when does glass fall to the floor after being shattered? No it just dissipates
>>342077101
>a roofed corridor that was longer than 2 Tracer blinks or something similarly outrageous.
>Pick all Mei in defense
>Non-stop icewall
>No way to win
>>342069514
I'll probably add you tomorrow
>>342077202
...Exactly?
>>342076971
IF it were real, you would have heard about it non-stop that night, the following morning, all the way through to right now. People would lose their fucking shit over somebody performing an incredibly superhuman jump like that.
>>342076621
Overwatch is more than casual enough to be great on consoles.
>>342077208
Please do, I've only had one person add me so far.
>>342077024
LOVE LOLI
>>342074939
What about Volskaya, Gibraltar, and King's Row? They all have extremely defensive sided chokes at the end where dying as the defending team is a 5 second walk back to the action, Hanamura isn't exclusive to having this problem.
>>342077308
It's legitimately the stupidest thing to play on a console.
>>342076209
Awesome. Seems like it'll be patched out eventually, but I hope not.
Made a revised list, I was also able to pull it off with junkrat now. The trick is you have to make it a massive jump without hitting the orange part of the building, so you kind of have to slow yourself down with pivots when you get over there, and aim for the tiny bit of ledge sticking out that isn't covered by the orange office area.
>>342077386
all three of them have great flanks towards the end
the last point of Gibraltar is possibly the worst defensive place in the entire map
>very open
>very obvious entry points
>no high ground
>>342077623
Agreed, fuck that shit.
>yeah everyone just run out one by one and don't listen to me when I say to group up
>>342077621
I'm almost positive there's a little lip on the right side as you go to make the jump over there. So if you do your mine jump and hug the wall to the right, you'll end up on a ledge and you can just walk on over onto the platform.
Is it just me or is every player or team in OW a massive motherfucking prick? In literally every other competitive game I've had friendlier experiences.
>>342077914
Still looking to squad up op?
>>342077857
Yeah that's what I'm doing, but if you bump into the orange part of the building it seems to bounce you back toward the water ever so slightly to the point where you miss the lip.
>>342077914
People are already booga posting for quick play, imagine how bad it's gonna get when ranked is out.
>>342069514
>Everyone on there is a tryhard sperg or just looking for someone to play healer for them.
And you don't think it's any different here? Playing with anons is always a terrible idea. The one time I played overwatch with a group from /owg/ in just one single match we had shitters who picked widowmaker and mei on attack and never changed, someone rage quit, and at the end of the first match one left for a 20 minute break.
>>342077621
Holy shit, so that's how tracers and reapers keep getting behind us.
>>342078341
Yeah, you could fit an entire competent attack team over that way. Just have winston and lucio run to the gate. Winston throw down a shield and lucio shoot some blasts. Make them think you're coming in that way in earnest while the rest of the team flanks. Then winston and lucio can back off and cross fast like they are able to.
>>342077979
What's your gamertag anon? I added op too so let's group up
Console players are having their minds blown by 6 Torb
>>342077979
Yup.
>>342078581
No scrubs are I go against 6 of them all the freaking time and I can normally get 3 or 4 by myself as d.va
>>342078880
What's a champ?
>>342069514
>Playing on xbone
I pity you. You (your mom and me) shilled out 60 dollars so you could play Team Fortress 3 on the xbone... with a controller...
TOP TIER
>All koth maps
Mid tier:
>Fusion CP/Payload (except numbani)
Low Tier
>Pure CP and Payload maps
SHIT TIER
>Numbani
>>342078924THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED THIS SUNDAY NIGHT WHEN JOHN CENA TAKES ON THE UNDERTAKER IN A SPIT-SWAPPING MAKE OUT MATCH
>FPS on console
>>342071616
>not being beta
>on 4chan
choose one
>>342079034
I dont see why people hate numbani so much
>>342079283YA YO YI
>>342079283
It's too easy to attack on?
>>342076590
> If the defending team has even 8 brain cells between them they will never lose on this map. I always just leave whenever I'm set to attack on it.
Some of us stick around to test ourselves and get good.
>>342079336WA KA U AI OH
>>342073390
Lijiang is fuckin Mei/Junkrat shitters: the map
Honestly i hate all the koth maps. Rounds are too short. You only really have 3 total tries to attack the point before it moves to the next one. If the team who captures it first has about 3-4 people alive after the initial clash and arent retarded its almost impossible to kill them and take the point.
Lijiang is shit. Why the hell do all the control points have a shit ton of cover and barely any access? Ultra snowbally and just promotes deathball comps.
>>342076590
You literally just co-ordinate your ults.
A Zarya + DVA ult can win you most maps, even DVA's ult zoning everybody so you can cap does wonders.
>Look up overwatch on sadpanda just to check it out
>119 hits
WOW
>>342078531
Added op too
>>342080268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDfPCxVMrY4
JOHN CENA
BUMBUMBUMBUUUUUM
>>342075903
Junkrat can do it if you do a reset hop.
>>342080557
Did you mean to reply to>>342079113 ?
I can't be the only one who reads Lijang tower as Wang tower, right?
>>342081078
Well that's something I'll never unsee.
>>342080408
Nice just need 3 more. If not 3 is still way better than playing with randoms
>>342081240
OP here, we're going to wait for one more person to add me and then start.
You probably already know, but I'm just posting this so the thread knows.
>>342081362
Sounds good man
>>342069514
Thats not Hanamura. If you think thats hard, learn the flanking routes. Hanamura is the only map where flanking is near impossible.
>>342076418
Any decent sym will have that entire room covered in Sentries to melt anyone who tries to go in there.
>>342076971
you're retarded, anon
>>342081726
They really aren't that hard to take care of.
Winston is a minesweeping machine.
My biggest problem with Volskaya/Hanamura/Anubis is just how retarded the first choke is and how similar they are. They're all just fuckhuge walls with one gate and a tiny little window on the wall, or in the case of Anubis, 2 shitty side paths that you need to show yourself in the main path to go through. Sure, Volskaya has that weird side path thing, but that's only really a D.va or Reaper thing, just like the shitty window is only for a select few.
The map design is basically afraid of flank routes that you can't see 24/7 and that really pisses me off coming off TF2's great map design.
>>342081078
>>342081237
Retarded since there's still an I there.
>>342073390
this is spot on, except I like the ruins map.
you're also missing dorado
>>342072808
There's no substitute for turning speed nigger.
>>342082147
Winston also kinda melts under Sym's guns too. Also this is only talkin about Sym, my point is that a single sym can prevent Genji and Tracer from just running through. The rest can be handled with sufficient pressure from the resto f the team.
tfw servers down
>>342082770
Dorado is in the middle.
>>342082948
Why do I never get to play Hollywood? I'm so fucking tired of playing Hanamura.
>>342083261
I just bought the game last week, and I had played 15 hours before getting into a match on Nepal.
>>342072231
>high-end
>overwatch
Ok?
What map has the best starting music and why is it Nepal?
>>342072925
You FAT CUNT
All the capture maps with attack/defence are awful only payload and Keith are bearable every fucking capture mapEVERY FUCKING ONEHAS A CHOKEPOINT BEFORE THE FIRST FUCKING POINT. Its payload usually favors the defenders but it feels like a fair and fun challenge as an attacker. KOTH is objectively the fairest because both teams have identical sides of the map.
KOTH > Payload >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control point
>>342083790
>keith
>>342083790
>only payload and Keith are bearable
Have you told Keith how you feel?
>>342069514
Is this Brian C from haven who'd listen to us do Kermit impressions on cs source
>>342083939
Nope, sorry.
>>342083790
>Keith
What did he mean by this?
KOTH is shit.
Most of the time in payload, it's roughly 3 people on one team going directly up against 3 people on the other teams, with the other members of both teams scattered around the map. This is ideal.
In KOTH, it's all six members of both teams fighting each other at the same time. What an awful clusterfuck.
>>342084292
Yeah, but if the teams are similarly matched is a lot of fun.
>>342084589
Less fun than other modes though.
>>342084758
All two of them?
>>342084893
Yes?
>>342073176
Good point, I play with a full team of RL friends and me and a m8 are both strong Tracers. She can run a run a ruckous on this fucking map
>>342075183
Junkrat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1cpWIVyBEA
we playing soon or what?
>>342085383
Still waiting for one more person.
If we don't get one within the next fifteen minutes, we'll just start.
>>342069514
>Defense on Volskaya as Lucio
>rmb 3 people off of the map as soon as the game begins
Is it really that hard for mustards to aim with a controller? I play OW on both PC and PS4 and it's mostly the same thing for me. Granted, I've been playing FPS on both consoles and PC for more than a decade.
>>342085861
You have aim assist on console.
You don't have it on PC.
That says enough.
>>342086297
By the way, did you know that the aim assist in OW is fucked on consoles?
They're patching it next month or something.
>>342086443
Makes sense, actually. I remember times where my aim would randomly go in one direction when I didn't move my stick at all.
>>342072402
Yeah no shit, because you're completely retarded, son.
>>342086951
I don't even know how you thought this was a proper response to that post.
>>342069514
>>>/vg/146044602
>>>/vg/146044602
>>>/vg/146044602
>long-term, recurring threads about a game belong in /vg/.
The game's release is past, and there are three to four Overwatch threads up on the catalog at any one time. Please relocate to the place set aside specifically for you.
>>342087435
I'm posting in both threads and you can't stop me
>Console
Oh boy. I just saved this one today, let's break it in.
>>342087671
>PC
You are literally playing the game in Casual mode.
>>342069514
>Overwatch on Xbone
>playing an FPS with a controller
>ever
A plague o' your house.
