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Last thread was still going pretty strong.

Post your most controversial opinion related to video games.

HARD MODE: Actually think about if your opinion if controversial
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I don't think there's anything wrong with Uplay
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Cave Story was average at best.

Soundtrack was dope though
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>>342056448
I think Origin has better deals/game giveaways than Steam does at this point.
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>>342056552
I agree that the giveaways are better, the majority of my 20 game Origin library is free games.

EA also has better customer support than Valve. I know there's the Karkland meme, but I can actually do a live chat with EA customer support and the two times I have they spoke perfect English, were polite, understood the topic, and they solved my seemingly unsolvable problem quickly.
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>>342056240
I dislike mods, all Bethesda games, Dishonored, the last of us and liked operation raccoon city
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>>342057904
What do you have against mods?
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>>342056240
Pay2Win is okay.
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>>342058108
Actual Pay2Win or Pay2NotGrind?
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>>342058218
I'm talking specifically about any advantage, not just paywalls.
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>>342058617
I am legitimately curious as to your reasoning behind that.
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All games should aspire to be challenging, like at least half of Dark Souls challenge
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>>342058886
Pay2Win can become bad because it can inspire class warfare within a playerbase. Whether or not these advantages are locked behind a paywall is irrelevant, so long as they are negligible this model doesn't pose a real problem.
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>>342056240
I couldn't care less if censorship, SJWs, or obvious diversity quotas show up in video games. They can do what they want.
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>>342056240
I actually, completely unironically, absolutely fucking hate Ocarina of Time. Quite literally the least interesting, most un-fun to play slog of a game I have ever played.
I don't think PC is a legitimate way to play video games and I never will.
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>>342056240
I think consoles are for idiots and if you idort you're just supporting the industry's worst cancer.

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Dark Souls class design ain't got shit on Vindictus.
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>>342060416
Why is PC not a legitimate way to play games?
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>>342060949
OP said it had to be controversial, he didn't say it had to be justified. I think playing video games on PC is stupid, I don't have another reason.
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ready to end the thread
theres literally nothing wrong with women playing video games and anyone who thinks otherwise is a gatekeeping retard. men are so defensive about games its ridiculous to think that we own an entire medium of entertainment and 75% of 'gamers' need to get off their non existent high horse. dudes bullying women away is by far the biggest reason they dont like games. i wont even talk about how a wider audience means more and varied content. why would you not want a woman with similar interests? men are so retarded its mind blowing, and if the first thing you think is "thats not made for girls" or "not all guy are like that" then youre just a moron whos part of the problem
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Undertale deserved GOTY
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>>342061398
I really hope you're not actually this deluded
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>>342061398
You're a faggot for reasons other than your opinion.
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>>342061398

This is the most obvious bait I've seen today, but I'll bite.

Why do you think men have any issue whatsoever with women playing video games?
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>>342061429
Undertale was my personal GOTY but mostly because it knew exactly what it was trying to do, accomplished it, and didn't fuck up anything major. And even with those metrics, it's probably one of the best games I've played in the last decade.
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An increasing number of games rely on numbers displayed to the player to achieve an effect and it's the biggest and shittiest copout that enables all of the worst kinds of people to play games and ruin them. Especially in MMO's.
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Consoles are legitimately guilty of holding the industry back, holding games back, holding technology back, and video games will never truly reach the potential that they would otherwise as long as the shitboxes exist.

I think you're pretty dumb if you prefer 30fps.
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>>342056240
gone home was pretty good not amazing but ok. only thing bad about it was it's price and media hype. solid 7/10 if it was $5
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>>342056240
think of any (console) game you didn't like, I probably really enjoyed it
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I like to play video games
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>>342061546
prove me wrong. i play games with ladies all the time. I have 2 women who i regularly play games with, like a dozen more that i know who play lots of vidya. the only difference between male players and female players is that men dont trust female players as legitimately enjoying it 90% of the time

>>342061764
read any comment section on a woman playing games and more than half criticize her for shit that no male would be called out on. men do not like female players, the idea tends to make them uncomfortable, same with anything thats considered 'male centric'. the fact that the only successful LPers are the ones that have to show their tits instead if play well shows men dont care about what content they put out, just their tits
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mass effect 3 did nothing wrong. the ending? a non-issue.
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>>342056240
Metroid clone Castlevania games have always been shit and OoE is the crowning jewel of that shit pile
>back-dash tied to the fucking MP bar, shield-dashing (one of the very few cool things) is near worthless because it drains your entire bar in seconds
>all the bosses are laughable shit except Albus. They range from 1-move wonders like the Skull, literal 1-hit kills like Wallman, and auto-scroller garbage
>level designs are hallways loaded with enemies scattered with little-to-no thought. The only good stage is the final one
>Glyphs are carbon copies of souls minus grinding
>Albus mode is trash and glitchy, Hardmode is bullshit because of said level design mistakes being "take hallways and load it with enemies"
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>>342062370
To be fair, I don't trust women really enjoy most of the stuff they say they do, not just video games.
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>>342062370
That's ironically sexist of you anon.
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>>342062370

What if men are successful LPers more often than women because they tend to be better at video games?

I'm just saying, you don't see very many women at the top of competitive video games
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>>342056240
The Legend of Spyro was a shit ton of fun to play. The music was great, the characters were well designed, and the combat was awesome, especially co-op mode. I even enjoyed the story
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>>342056240
Fallout 4 and Skyrim are great games with great DLC. Bethesda is one of my favorite devs
I really liked the voiced protagonist, much better than New Vegas endless text walls


New Vegas is boring as shit
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I think it's completely reasonable that certain communities want to be represented in games,.whether gay, black, woman whatever.

I can't speak much about how they go about demanding it though because I don't keep up with game news beyond new release Info.
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>>342061961
This is bait, and not at all well thought out controversial input.

Fuck off to >>>/trash/ you scum.

I'm not arguing that console gaming is better than PC or visa versa, but console gaming regardless is responsible for keeping people in the gaming community.

You're either retarded or delusional if you can't see that.

If the world only consisted of PC gamers, you'd have frame rate issue all over the joint, and over-flooded market (causing mixed communities and a more casualised catalyst for children and newcomers alike), as well as connection issues for servers and people outright ignoring video games causing less of a demand and not enough companies willing to supply.

There is a reason consoles exist; not everybody is a pretentious neckbeard, some people are just casuals, some people (believe it or not) prefer a handheld controller on an already prebuilt system.

Whether or not this is bait, your statement is poorly thought out, based on no actual foundation, and frankly just fucking stupid.
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>>342062821

So why don't they make their own video games, instead of forcing other communities to pander to them?
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>>342059547
Do you want game devs to survive?

Why not just add a /v/ difficulty setting to every game? Itd make everyone happy.
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>>342062982
>Coming into an unpopular opinion thread and posting a wall of text after you get triggered
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>>342063067

Someone post that old /v/ image where the guy falls off a cliff and is like "the ground is too soft!"
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>>342056240
Halo Wars and Halo Armor mods for Xcom are the only good things to come from the series. Even then Halo Wars is brought down by god awful framerate
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>>342063067
I don't give shit. Devs are aiming for audiences too big, shit like CD, for example, can die for all I care.

Games should have a difficulty curve, and I think it should be hard if the game expects me to take it seriously, either that of reward players that can do shit better.
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i really like the idea of branching dialogue/"every choice matters" in video games, but the fact of the matter is that video game writers are not good enough to make a decent story around these mechanics, and devs are unwilling to put in the time and effort required to make this mechanic more than a gimmick.
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>>342056240
Not all female gamers are healers, facebook players and casuals, some of them can be just as talented as their male counterparts
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>>342063067
the majority of games from before 2000 are harder than dark souls, asking for half the difficulty isnt much
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I enjoy "cinematic games" like TloU and Until Dawn.
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>>342062557
why do you inherently distrust women?

>>342062578
wew lad yuo sure showed me

>>342062627
that could be it, i dont know the facts and neither do you. it could also be that this is a male dominated industry (just like all of them) and the second women show any interest, they're dismissed. if we had a culture that welcomed women, more would become proficient which means more ladies joining the community, which means new ideas and improvements coming to the table. women are 50% of the population it is ridiculous to think they couldn't enjoy games. remember when the catholic church collectively decided the general population were not allowed to read because they were inherently too stupid? thats what lead to the dark ages. i think the gaming industry is in shambles because 1. men dont know what women gamers want 2. women dont know what women gamers want because this is not a conductive environment for them to find out
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>>342063465
Because my mom was a bitch and it's easier for me to distrust/neglect things that hurt me as a child.

Also probably why I'm gay.
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>>342063140
> Mistaking a controversial opinion thread for an unpopular opinion thread
> Being this stupid
> Visiting a thread just to shitpost an implication with no base structure

Kill yourself you fucking loser.
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4chan is a really bad place for dissecting what makes a game good or bad, and they couldn't argue their way around the censorship debate. at least the memes are good.
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FEAR 2>Perseus Mandate>Extraction Point>FEAR 1>FEAR 3>Reborn
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>>342063465

Well since you just said that you don't know the facts yourself, don't you think it's a bit sexist towards men to assume that they're being sexist?
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>>342063065
This isn't 1993, where games weren't as commercial and that claim could stand strong. It's 2016 and we will likely have a president in our time who has beaten a video game. The medium is approaching television levels, and it's unlikely that even a white man will become a game dev let alone a gay white guy or Mexican or woman. When a medium becomes large enough it's no longer enough to satisfy a niche audience, but rather it should embrace nuance.
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>>342061961
I don't think anyone prefers 30fps, just that they don't mind it as much. My pc ain't that great so I prefer stable 30 to choppy 60 for some games.
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>>342057904
>I dislike mods, all Bethesda games, Dishonored, the last of us
>controversial
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>>342063713

I don't think anyone, anywhere, has ever stopped and thought "Oh, I was going to play this awesome new shooter, but then I found out 38% of the development staff were minority women.".

I think people buy video games because of their quality (and marketing).
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Games that focus on story over gameplay are straight up garbage. If you don't care about games and just want a story then you should just read a book or watch a movie instead.
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>>342061961
agree. consoles have helped bring gaming into the mainstream though.
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>>342061398
'Tis an awesome thing to see
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>>342056240
Dark Souls is slow, clunky, boring shit.
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"Western" and "RPG" don't mix
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>>342062763
Agreed.
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>>342063284
>I don't give shit. Devs are aiming for audiences too big, shit like CD, for example, can die for all I care

Yeah you don't give a shot until the games don't sell and your favorite Dec gets shut down. Video games aren't your secret club. The truth is they make money and devs need money to stay alive. I used to get mad as fuck because rap music devolved into bubble gum bulls hit until I realized that people need money and it was silly to think that someone would sacrifice a million bucks to rap like 2Pac. Once I realized this, I appreciated the good music that came few and far in between.

I'm sure that in an ocean of AAA shit you have your diamonds, right? Didn't you like Witcher 3 or Bloodborne or some obscure JRPG?
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-Project M Is objectively better then Melee If you aren't jerking off your top tier all day.
-Metal gear Solid Is as much of a movie game as TLOU
-The Best 3D Zelda wouldn't even reach the worst 2D Zelda's ankle.
-Butch women like Zarya are barf tier designs and shouldn't even be considered In any video games
-Fire Emblem Is garbage,least worst offenders being GBA ones for their amazing sprite work,but that's the only good thing to ever come from the franchise as awhole.
-light porn oriented games are as bad as SJW If not worst because they always attempt to compensate the garbage gameplay with a sideshow.
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I think Gamergate was, and still is, ran by people who hate women.
The hardly target men as much as they do women, all of the main targets for it have been women, there have been several accounts of doxing and harassment from women, plenty of women had to leave Gamergate because of this, and the "ethics in gaming journalism" is bullshit because Gamergate was hardly about journalism, and they just wanted to see the free press die and more women be scared away from gaming. I mean, god forbid somebody complains about a girl having maybe a little bit to much boobage, am I right? Seriously, though, all of them deserved to get kicked off of every platform, because looking at their sexist bickering was troubling for a lot of people

Nah, I'm just fuckin with you guys
I think Call of Duty is a lot better than people make it out to be, and that Call of Duty Infinite Warfare is setting itself up to be pretty good
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>>342063937
I'm talking about the game itself, man.
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>>342063465
>why do you inherently distrust women?

i inherently distrust all people, but i distrust women for different reasons. women attention whore a lot more than men do, so i suspect them more when they claim to have a hobby that is known for being male dominated.
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>>342061398
I've never once had any problem with a girl playing games. My girlfriend's main hobby is games as well. I've never understood why some guys get that way about chicks, it just doesn't make sense to me.

However, I do dislike it when people generalize guys like that. I know you "called this out" and shit, but not all guys really are like that, nor is it the MAIN reason why girls shy away from games. The main reason why they do is because generally, for the longest time, it was marketed as a "thing for boys", which we and our parents all bought into. In the same way that Barbies are marketed as a girls-only thing, so you grow up with that mentality, and as a kid, can't simply see them as mere objects that are non-specific. To blame males for that is fucking ridiculous.

I really hate men as well, but that's such an unfair mentality, and it's no better than any retarded sexist anti-female propaganda.
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>>342064535

What?

If you're referring to any one game in particular, like your post implies, you're going to have to tell me which one it is, because there's no single title referenced in our post chain.
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I look down on people whose favorite Final Fantasy is IX.
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I would let Todd Howard degrade me
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>>342064860
fight me faggot
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>>342061398
You can't complain about sexism in videogames while generalizing the male demographic anon.
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>>342059893
Skyward Sword is a 7.5 or slightly greater, the hype made me think the game was better. The controversial opinion here is that it had the best dungeon designs to date.

I don't mind diversity in games as long it isn't hamfisted. Less political agendas equals better character variations. Treat people like people not tokens

I'm interest in seeing more games with childlike ideas. Get a cool sounding concept and refine it, i.e. "What if there was a game with dinosaurs with fighter jets fighting demon aliens awakening from the Earth's core who want to take all the planet's precious metals" or whatever outrageous sounding concept.
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>>342064704
>I really hate men as well

Why?
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>>342065321
Oops, didn't mean to quote that post
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I never played a Zelda game, save for a couple moments at friends' houses and shit.
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>>342064769
You're saying no one cares about the staff in terms of diversity--I'm not talking about the staff itself (though I'm sure that merits its own analysis that shouldn't be conducted here) I'm talking about the people in the actual game. My "controversial" opinion is that it's perfectly reasonable for diverse people to want to see diverse characters in games.
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I don't think pokemon is fun. It feels like an average JRPG at best, and I don't understand the buttloads of hype people get over them, or the girls in them.
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>>342065593
I'm sorry friend, but that's not an opinion.
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Paper Mario Sticker Star is a good game. It made for a good collectathon. And the museum is legitimately enjoyable to complete. And I thought some of the puzzles were interesting.
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>>342064860
>How dare these people have fun

wew lad
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>>342065623
So why don't they make their own games instead of forcing existing developers to change existing game development?

If people actually want what you say they want, people will support them. With money.
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>>342064860
I look down on people who's favorite RPG is a mainline final fantasy title
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I really like Spirit Tracks.
The music was good, gameplay felt good, I really liked the train riding, and the graphics were good for it's limitations. I love the boss battles, and Zelda actually being used instead of "she's way over there trapped by ganon" was awesome. My only complaint is that it's a bit linear.
It's just a weird thing for a Zelda game, all the sudden trains, but I'm ok with that since it was handled well.

Skyward Sword was awesome too, but way too linear.
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>>342066013

Thanks senpai
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Duke Nukem Forever's only real problem was the load times.
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LoZ: Four Swords Adventure is the best Zelda game
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>>342056240
I had and will always love cod

battlefield is just a disabled arma
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>>342063942
I respect your opinion anon, do you have any specific titles you are talking about?
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>>342065826
Okay. I misread that as sins.

I have no issue of girls playing games, as long as they're willing to not play the hapless damsel and draw in the white knights.

I hate matchmaking and leveling systems on online multiplayer games. It makes it stupid annoying to do a good pickup LAN game, along with custom servers.

I think it's okay to have diverse characters, but the whole GamerGate bullshit, both sides specifically, have made video games more of a regressive hobby.
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>>342065430
Generally just dislike how often they tend to think highly of themselves, and hold this sense of entitlement within them, whilst also more often than women (Just going by all of the people I've personally known" being rather close-minded and judgey.

I know for a fact not all men are like this, and there are legitimate good guys, even in this thread are there guys like this, but I can't shake that feeling of discomfort and distaste that I have for men whenever I'm near them. Probably comes as a result of my real dad leaving when I was born, and my step-dad hating me and venting out on me every day and shit like that. Then after he kicked my mom and I out of the house, the guy my mom got with hated me just as much as my dad, etc. Just haven't had any good experiences with men in general, really. I couldn't even get along with other guys as a kid, could barely get along with girls as well, and it just ended up with me being a complete longer in high school and all that.

Despite all of that bullshit, I know how wrong it is to hold an entire gender accountable for that shit, and the fact is that people are just people, and people are flat out shitty. However, it's important to be fair and just with one another, because that's kind of the only way to get better as a whole, so I hate when people say shit like what that guy did, blaming men for essentially women growing up with a certain mentality as a result of their parents/media telling them what to believe.
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>>342056240

I'm not really one for extreme opinions.

>>342060360

I'm on the fence here. I don't care about the ethnicity, gender or sexuality of characters if they're likable characters. However, I think it's a problem if you make developers feel obligated to make a diverse cast because then you'll only get black/female/gay characters shoehorned to meet the "diversity quota." If this happens, I have a feeling the characters will ultimately be lousy because the creators didn't want to make them. I want good, thoughtful representations of diverse characters. Not token throw ins.
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Spoilers are garbage and makes the posts a lot more cumbersome to read. I wanted to read this thread but I can't be bothered.
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>>342063582
Do you need to talk, champ?
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The Mass Effect saga is fucking boring since the beggining
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>>342066043
That's the point. It's easier to have others do the hard work...and the risk. Making games is expensive and all these professional complainers don't want to put their wallet where their big mouth is.
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>>342066551
>being a complete longer in high school and all that.

Fuck, I mean loner.***

Not to say that not getting along with anybody gives you a bigger dick. Although, I won't deny it either.
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>>342063249
I feel bad for anyone that didn't bask in the glory of halo:ce through jolly cooperation on legendary with a bro when it first dropped
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>>342066567
I agree. Let the developers take risks, and let the characters come natural. Kaine is better-written than any gay character that Bioware has made.
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>>342066551
Shit senpai you should see a therapist.
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>>342066413
DEEPEST
LORE
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I automatically assume anyone who plays FIFA is a 3rd world shitter or a eurocuck.
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>>342066551
Yeah you should probably see someone actually qualified for this stuff.
videogames
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I think that games should budget at least 20% of their budget and time into putting TECHNOLOGY into the games.

Also stories should be interesting or entirely skipped.
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>>342066551
>implying men are more entitled than women
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>>342066851
Yeah, I've seen a few. One of them even developed a crush on me as I was 17, and she was 41. That was funny, she was nice too. Never went beyond a platonic friendship, and she just stopped seeing me cold turkey.

It just isn't for me though. Generally, therapists are for people who can't quite figure things out on their own. I don't THINK I fit into that category, I like to think I have a good sense of self-awareness, but what do I know. Either way, I'm supposed to be on anti-depressants, but they don't fix anything. They don't prevent you from thinking the way you do, so it's like being stuck in a psychological straight jacket. They also make it hard for me to get a stiffy, and even if I do, I can't cum, so that just pisses me off as well.
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>>342056240
I hate SoTC with a passion, for drawing in people who like aesthetics only, along with finding it to be an awful game
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Suikoden 4 is my favorite Suikoden
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It's completely ok if you struggled with Dark Souls. Fucking "LOL YOU DIDNT BEAT THAT BOSS IN YOUR FIRST TRY CONTROLLING YOUR CHARACTER WITH YOUR DICK SMASHING A BONGO WHILE BEING BLINDFOLDED" they are just fat neckbeard dicks trying to look cool on an anonymous imageboard
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>>342065787
You gotta admit the original was pretty novel even if you didn't enjoy it. But yeah, there is a healthy dose of collective nostalgia involved.
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>>342067558
spaming the dodge roll makes half the bosses unable to touch you though
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>>342067425
Did the low FPS turn you off to it?
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>>342067558
>SMASHING A BONGO
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>>342067423
People can't get help if they don't want it. The best therapist in the world is unable to help a person who sees no wrong in themselves.
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>>342067351
Again, I was speaking based off of personal experience. Aside from that, it's only logical men be slightly more prone to egotistical behavior than women if anything, given testosterone and all of that bullshit.
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>>342067558
Kek.

I think we've already passed the pinnacle of gaming.
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>>342067751
My hands.
They feel that pain once more.
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King's Quest 8 is the best one. Rest of the King's Quest games are unenjoyable and not that funny.
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>>342067632
I'll admit I thoroughly enjoyed Blue version as a kid. just not sure about the new ones that are released every year now.
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>>342061398
You fail to take into account how often people bully eachother in videogames regardless of gender.
And then a large amount of the other crowd that discourages girls from speaking up is anyone who treats them differently over their girlness. Whether it's defending them and sucking them off, or berating them due to girls getting a bad rep in games.
On top of which is the fact that competitive and difficult games appeal less to females
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I think that it's OK to like a terrible game as long as you enjoy playing it. Dark Void is one of my most replayed games and it's also one of the worst I've ever played.
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>>342056240
>>342056240
Nintendo has been rehashing the same games since the 80s. This is a fact though, but it is still my opinion too and is controversial
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>>342067712
Yeah but I don't expect everyone to finish the game without struggling at some point. It's a punishing game (just DaS1, DaS2 is what happens if a game gets memed to death) and it's ok if someone finds it hard
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>>342067770
Egotistical, sure, I can buy that. We have to peacock and be socially assertive if we want even a chance of getting laid.

Entitlement is defo more on the chick side though. Women marry up and aren't really even expected to have to bring much to the table.
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>>342067714
I dont give a shit about FPS or graphics.

It was boring as shit. The trips through the feild only got longer, and the climbing mechanic only got duller, especially with how each Collosi would try to shake me off more often than the last just stalling me and wasting my time.
The only time I found enjoyment was when figuring out how to start climbing them.
I quit after the bird
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>>342056240
Fallout 4 is fun and better than 3 and NV

Steam has and always will suck

VR and AR is shit and will never be good with games

Valve sucks hard

Half-Life is an amazing series independent of Valve sucking

Mobas are fun when you don't have time to play something requiring actual skill

Any of these controversial?
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>>342067764
Well I see everything wrong with myself and more, it's just that nothing helps. I last saw a therapist last year, I REALLY appreciated her, she was very smart, but it's just that... again, nothing helps. Nobody can tell me something I've not told myself already.

But it's fine, I'm sure it'll be fine.
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>>342067928
It's why I liked Drakengard 3
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>>342067901
If anything it seems like people mostly suck up to women in videogames.
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>>342068136
Valve sucks might be the only one that would get you replies.
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I fucking hate OoT. It's an ugly, boring game that I could not force myself to suffer through. I liked Wind Waker, I liked Twilight Princess, Ocarina of Time is just shit.

Super Mario 64 is pretty fun, but it is not a Mario game, it's a 3D platformer with a Mario skin on it. It feels completely different from the 2D Mario games, where later 3D Mario games tried to have the same spirit as the 2D titles.
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>>342067425

I also am a minority who really dislikes that game. I've read articles defending the purposely shitty controls, but it just makes it unplayable to me.
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The only reason I want VR is so I can be a girl.
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>>342068209
Why? They introduced DLC and normalised internet \ third party app required for game to run.
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Halo 4 was good. Not CE good, but good.
Halo 2 (story mode) is complete shit, worst in the series with the possible exception of 5.
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>>342061398
>i wont even talk about how a wider audience means more and varied content
Trying to pander to wider audiences has lead to games becoming more and more similar if anything, because instead of trying to carve their own niche developers are aiming for the shit that is proven to bring in huge amounts of people/the kinds of people who will buy anything if it's got a character they like in it. Many series are victim to casualization and shittier writing than ever because of attempts to either reach normalfags or waifufags/fujoshits in the name of "wider audiences".

That said, retards online getting uppity about girls playing games is somewhat of a problem, but it is not nearly as common as people make it out to be. I've literally never met a guy who gave a shit about me playing video games in person. Every time I see whining it's in places where people's opinions should be taken with a grain of salt, like /v/. Which brings me to my controversial opinion: people who worry about what other people think of them playing vidya need to let go. If you're a functioning member of society, there is a 99% chance that no one gives a fuck. Got made fun of as a kid? It's time to let go; no one cares anymore. Vidya is mainstream as fuck.
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>>342068136
Yeah, the first.
Also FUCK YOU on the first.
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>>342068504
I also prefer 343's armor designs over Bungie.
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>>342068494
I dont see how this is controversial at all
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>>342068504
>calling halo 2 story shit
Fuck you it gave us more insight on the covenants society and was way better that a majority of CE
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>>342068380
How about Majoras Mask?

Totally agree on the second Mario point, but it's still a good game.
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>>342068703
>people like this exist
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>>342068494
what the fuck is going on in this gif
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>>342068502
Because of muh steam sales. I can get someone having a point against steam, but everyone in /v/ likes to suck Gaben's dick just because they get cheap games every once in a while
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>>342068793
Haven't played Majora's Mask yet. I downloaded the 3DS one, but haven't really been in the mood to play it yet.
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>>342056240
The "canon" Nintendo games stop at SNES and N64+ games are not "real" nintendo games

"Real" nintendo games like LTTP, SMW, SM were the best games of their genre. That is what defines them as Nintendo games, their quality was the highest. Starting with N64 generation, quality slipped badly compared to PS1 and PC games, Nintendo games were no longer the best games at doing what they did.

So at that time, Nintendo games ceased to be "Real" nintendo games and the "real" Nintendo era includes NES, GB, and SNES.
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Fallout 3>>>>Fallout 4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>POWERGAP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fallout NV
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>>342068504
>Halo 2 (story mode) is complete shit
Gameplay-wise, I agree with you. Something about it wasn't fun in the slightest bit for me. I loved its story segments but christ the level layout was a trudge through badly paced shit.
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>>342068037
>Women marry up and aren't really even expected to have to bring much to the table

I'd honestly say that's our fault as a whole for having that absolutely retarded mentality of "It's the man's responsibility to take care of the wife!", "You gotta get yourself a man with a good job, so he can take care of you!" and shit like that, which, when you fucking tell a kid that, what do you think is going to happen?

Good news is that I believe that mentality is starting to dwindle and fade out a bit. My girlfriend's grandma has said shit like that to ever since she was a kid and she fucking haaaates it. Couple sensibility with how our generation is now getting big into this whole shtick of "Women are mis-reperesented and fucking whatever else", I bet you anything this leads into more and more kids raised, who never once hear that very same "Man takes care of woman, woman doesn't do anything!" crap.
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Kotor 1 is infinitely better than 2
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>>342056240
I was going to say something related to how I support most if the increased social justice measures in vidya but it seems we've got that topic on a lock already.
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I still kinda enjoy game grumps
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>>342069053

I don't think it's a good thing that people are marrying now more for physical assets than love.
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>>342067558

It took me hours to clear the Undead Burg in my first DaS1 playthrough.

Now I'm playing DaS2 and the game feels kind of easy. Fewer iFrames in dodges and a few enemies that try their hardest to fuck you over for backstabbing, but ultimately I'm playing as I've always played and I'm beating most bosses on my first try.

The games are designed such that total shitlords will get good if they don't give up.
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Controversial to normies: I think Fallout 4 was a pretty huge disappointment But that really doesn't surprise anyone on /v/

Controversial to /v/: I think 3rd person action games like Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, and MGR:Revegeance are overrated garbage. Additionally, Street Fighter/KoF are garbage as well. 1 frame combo links and flowchart combo memorization are fucking stupid.
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>>342069328
The exact opposite is happening though, pretty much across the board.
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Monster Hunter is way overhyped on this board
Monster Hunter has some of the worst combat of any game
The combat in Monster Hunter is clunky and slow, or fast and attacks feel insignificant

Pillars of Eternity is fucking horrid

All Bethesda games are boring
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>>342059547
So games should be difficult because they have awful combat and controls?
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>>342069328
Marriage has been about physical assets and social mobility for hundreds of years though. If anything it's more about love than ever.
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>>342056240
Crash Bandicoot was never good. It was overshadowed by superior platformers before and afterwards.
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>>342061179
What about PC exclusives? How will you play those?
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3D games are inherently worse that 2D games by design.
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>>342068812
That girl is experiencing
DJ
TECHNORCH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaNxnVrF1Us
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The fighting games I have the most fun with is Mortal Kombat and Soul Calibur
RIP to the latter
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>>342068935
Complaining about canon in Mario is rather petty tbqh. Mario will always be the everyman that saves Peach and will continue having cool adventures.

The Zelda Timeline has made spergs angry because it doesn't fit into their personal headcanosn and frankly I find it hilarious. Unless Nintendo goes full retard with the lore, I will still not care and roll with it.
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>>342069741
Nothing wrong with Soul Calibur, especially with how good SCV was. But yeah, MK is pretty bad. Jesus christ MKX's safe 50/50s ruin it.
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>>342061179
what kind of person has 0 evidence to back up an oppinion? It doesnt need to be a good or even valid reason but you need one regardless
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>>342069328
Well of course it's a terrible idea, why else do you think the divorce rate has been so fucking crazy?

But I wouldn't doubt it actually getting better. Because of the internet and all of this new stuff we have, not only do people now have the option to meet somebody online and develop something based off of personality and actual conversation IF they really want, but we've got a multitude of venues with which we CAN communicate and get to know one another and all that. There's no way this doesn't do good, you know? Technology is funny that way.
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>>342069829
Having one canon timeline where Link fails is pretty retarded.
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>>342069829
my post had absolutely nothign to do with lore as if that wasn't made blindingly apparent by the repeated references to the games being the best. this means gameplay, retard.
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>>342068037
>We have to peacock

Not really. I'm a male, and I have never walked into a group of friends/people and think "boy I've got to act strong/mature/manly or everyone will hate me!"

We're not animals. I'm pretty sure most people just be themselves and say whatever comes to their mind. Unless I'm a complete autist and this is something every male just "knows" to do except me.
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>>342062370
LP comment sections are a terribly unreliable way to get a feel for the general public's "attitude towards female gamers".

You'll find as much trolling/hate comments in those of male LPers, and even if you don't, who can say what's genuine and what's one troll sock-puppeting for the sake of stirring up shit?
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I prefer HOMM IV to HOMM III [\spoiler]
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>>342070419
you meant to say V right?
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I kinda enjoyed gone home even though it wasn't perfect and didn't really feel like a game.
Yuri is better than any other fetish
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>>342070160
I don't disagree with that but it wasn't full retard, just Forrest Gump slow.

>>342070173
Saying "this isn't a real x game because there isn't y" is still petty, unless it was a shitty reboot.
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I still have hope for WoW Legion for some reason
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Angry Birds is fun.
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>>342070708
you can shove your evaluation of my opinion as "petty" up your ass. it's my opinion, i didn't ask for your input on it. thanks.
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>>342070648
Yuri fags that care about Yuri shit outside of pornography are just as bad as furfags
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>>342062370
I'm sure the gaming community hates women (well, I'm sure there's a few) as much as it is that being a woman has become 'noteworthy' trait. Then every single action that person takes is now considered representative of all women. You never really see that with men because being a man isn't noteworthy in the gaming space.
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>>342070772
Legion is unironically the best this game has ever been. Don't play Demon Hunter if you enjoy high-mobility classes, you won't play anything else.
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>>342071114
Thats good considering I am fucking tired of my Arcane and I don't wanna play DK again.
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>>342066043
>>342066760

Alot of things are expensive--making movies, cartoons etc. However expensive these may be there comes a threshold where the medium isn't just for white dudes anymore. The notion that you have to become a dev to see someone like you (not even the whole cast) in a billion dollar entertainment medium is kind of silly.
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>>342068504
That suit on the right looks at least 10 times more expensive than the suit on the left. Does it do anything different?
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>>342057904
Raccoon city was awesome, fuck you
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>>342071426
It can sprint.
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>>342071350
While I agree with you in principle, there is a cause-and-effect going on here. Games aren't just white dude dominated because the majority of consumers are white dudes, they're white dude dominated because the majority of producers are white dudes as well. You can't fix representation in media without fixing representation in media creation as well.
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>>342071489
mfw I don't remember enough of halo 1 to know if you could or could not sprint in it. Man it's been a long time.
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>>342071350

You mean to tell me out of the billions of non-white people on the planet, not even 2 or 3 of them are capable of filling the economic niche you're saying exists for non-white casts in video games via their own game development?
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>>342056240
The Boss was a terrible CQC fight.
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>>342071114
Why? What's so good about it? Everything I've seen hasn't felt like they're changing anything for the better.

Except artifacts, alternate Druid forms are fucking amazing and something I've been wishing for, for so long.
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>>342056240

I *know* (read: "not think") that all video games would be massively improved if they were filled with lots of naked lolis.
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>>342056240

I think Wonderful 101 is the best game that Platinum/Clover have ever put out, surpassing any of their earlier or later efforts to this date.
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>>342072536
But I know (read: factually correct) that all video games would be massively improved if they were all filled with huge titty monsters.
And we all know that I'm always right.
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>>342056240
The last of us had amazing gameplay that felt very tense and blended amazingly well with the story. It was close to a perfect game and the movie game meme people label it with is completely ridiculous.
Mass Effect 3 was a great game that just happened to have a terrible terrible ending and had the best horde mode ever made that absolutely blew all of Gears of War's Horde mode out of the water.
Dragon Age 2 was a good game that suffered from rushed production and deadlines which led to reused assets. The story and characters were the best in the series.
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>>342071738
Ability pruning has opened the door for more rotation customization through talents. You can make a class as complex or casual as you want now and not suffer for it.

Artifacts are another cool thing; zone progression isn't linear anymore. Where you go depends on your artifact.
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>>342072778

You know what is really factually correct (objectively speaking) and what is right? That your OPINION is not controversial and thus (read: therefore [of if you like vis a vis]) off topic.

OP please ban this user.

heheh nothing personnel kid~
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>>342056240
i enjoy the majority of video games i play
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