I think Diablo-likes have god awful combat but the sense of progression and looting is really enjoyable.
What are some good non-Diablo-likes that capture that?
Borderlands series
>>342049608
This one is a diablo like, but still fun. Champions of Norrath
>>342049742
I really didn't care much for the series, I typically like FPS but the gameplay gets mindless.
>>342049823
I'll see if I can emulate it on my laptop.
>>342049742
>Borderlands
>bad combat and good sense of progression
>unlock action skill at level 5, because fuck you
>early levels it's just a generic shooter because no skills with code-level limited loot
>later it takes ages to level up
>loot in 2 is too fucking boring because 3-4 legendaries per playthrough unless you farm, way better in 1
>>342049608
X series.
>>342050190
you can't.
The soe games were developed by assholes/idiots. They can't be emulated.
Well, they can, but only in software mode, which only utilized your cpu instead of hardware mode that uses your gpu too.
So if your laptop is overclocked to like 8Ghz with liquid nitrogen cooling it could work.
>>342050614
I tried and got really overwhelmed by all the shit.
>>342050835
Well time to buy a PS2 again.
>>342051225
X3 is though but if you avoid combat and focus on jewish tier trading it should be fine, there are plenty of guides on the egosoft forums.
>>342051435
I actually want combat, just not the shitty kind I see in Diablo-like games.
>>342049742
I like borderlands but it's a bad attempt at an arpg spinoff
What's great about arpgs is that they're all gameplay, the bl series has a (much too) massive story for all the gameplay and there's loads of walking between stuff
>I want combat
>but not like these games that people play solely for the combat
Dunno
Maybe something like Dragon's Crown or Disgaea
Those are all games that sort of have the same gameplay loops and longevity as arpgs
>>342049608
is Diablo 3 worth buying? I was so mad about the online only bullshit when it came out that I swore never to buy it, but it's so cheap I'm actually tempted to buy it now.
>>342052762
With RoS yes, without nah
>>342052762
Apparently only after/with RoS
But both are usually on sale all the time.
20€ sounds good, I'm thinking about buying it too
>>342052960
so I have to buy both at the same time? I thought RoS only added extra shit to do, but if it affects the standard campaign I guess I'll get it
Path of Exile
Grim Dawn
Disregard all other opinions, those are the only two recent games in the genre worth a shit.
Play PoE if you like a challenge and making really complicated builds. Seriously, half the fun is min maxing a build using the passive skill tree planner. There's also races which are super fun and really test your skill in various ways.
Grim Dawn if you want nicer graphics and less of a headache than above.
>>342053261
It adds an extra act to the campaign but all the extra features vastly improve the experience from level 1 onwards
>>342053352
>posts the two most rightclick heavy games in the genre
>>342051659
Then Darksiders. Though 1 hasn't the diablo like lootthey got a bit of backtracking and platforming. Think about zelda games.
>>342052762
FUN
FOR
A
WEEK
Actually when you have to try all the classes it could last more, but each new season? Fuck no. I hate so much what Diablo 3 has come to be, an arcade farmfest with no complexity whatsoever in character building. Leveling up is basically a chore, and once you get to level 70 all you do is farm for legendaries, and when you get those you farm more to gather materials to make them ancient (slightly higher stats). Literally any other game has a better character building than D3, just as all of them have a exponentially worse combat.
The fundamental problem with this desire is that arpgs/diablo clones are all about items and skill builds
If you give a game using that framework combat that's too good you'd rather negate the need for builds and items
>>342053352
>PoE
Community is pretty shit though. Last time I tried it, I had the feeling that hating D3 was mandatory.
>>342054095
it's literally all they post about
>>342053352
PoE's honestly a worse arpg than marvel heroes
>>342054157
How's the game doing anyways? Is inventory space still the only thing you need to buy or did they unleash their own auction house by now?
>>342053352
>Grim dawn has 6 types of flat damages that have their own DoT counterpart (fire-burn, acid-poison) that are countered by the same resistance but have to be boosted by the respective flat/DoT bonus, 3 exclusively flat type, and one exclusively DoT type, which makes 10 different damage types to build resistances for.
>Game provides stats on items, devotion points, 60+ socketables and faction augments that go on every item to get them high enough to survive.
>These things besides faction augments also provide offensive skills and stats besides resistances and defense
>Diablo 3 has "add 5000% to all resistances" and "+8000% to all damage" on sets and legendary gear
>Grim dawn has you unlocking a faceraping nemesis spawns and their loot rich chests when you reach max negative reputation with a faction
>it also has optional bosses that can wreck full legendary builds
>Diablo 3 has nepahlem rifts
I don't know about PoE but I don't doubt it's better, because it can't possibly be that colossal fuck up D3 is.
>>342052762
Nope, it's as shallow as it can get.
>Diablo-likes
wew
Why the fuck do people like loot so much? Never played Diablo 2 or 3 before and I have no idea what the appeal is to getting items when you defeat an enemy, that's standard in a lot of RPGs.
>>342049608
TERRARIA
>>342056429
>see legendary item dropping on the ground
just grim my dawn up senpai
>>342055862
u mad tho
>>342049608
Divinity: Original Sin has Diablo-style loot applied to a strategy RPG. It works really, really well.
>>342053546
>Literally any other game has a better character building than D3
This was always the shittiest part of ARPGs, though.
>>342057758
Spoken like one that despises all arpgs, since they're all like that.
>>342058835
Spoken like someone who's never played D1.
>>342058982
D1 is a roguelike, not a diablolike.
>>342059040
Which is why it's not shitty.
>>342050454
this.
borderlands should had way more skills per character.
Only one active skill + some passive stuff is extremely boring
>tfw no game with dark souls combat and diablo loot
why have none of these retard devs even tried?
>>342051659
>>342049608
Darksiders II is okay. It's like a God of War combat system, with Zelda dungeons and puzzles, and a Diablo loot system.
>>342052762
you will end up doing what I do.
play it for a month and get bored/burnt out then forget about it until they release something else interestingdid I imply it was only D3? because thats what happens with all blizzard games
>>342055180
The stash inventory is pretty big as is. I've only started playing two days ago. You get like 5 tabs to full up, I usually just keep all orbs and gems in there and sell off anything I don't use.
Not sure about the auction house, usually there's trade chat bur an auction house would make things easier instead of going through people trying to upsell their items which are shit tier usually.
I really don't understand the point in playing this after the story.
Rifts are shit.
Greater rifts are shit.
There is literally no point in grinding to get better gear.
>>342059593
>Dark souls with RNG
GEE WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG
>>342053352
The trade system in PoE is the reason I quit. I also don't like the currency system at all.
>>342060638
Paragon level 1800 autismos would disagree with you. You have to have autism to enjoy most ARPGs.
>>342061402
>tfw guy's really kind to you in games
>spends like 80 dollars to fucking buy me Diablo 3
>gets disappointed when I want to stop playing the D3 season like 2 weeks in
It's so boring mang, I'm glad he's upper class or I'd feel like a piece of shit though.
>>342060638
There isn't.
Terraria, somewhat linearly.
