>every gaming media is excited because Kratos' character looks more interesting now
>no one mentions gameplay
How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
Always pay attention to what they DON'T want to show you.
Gameplay is probably shit.
>Nu-male of War
>>342029496
you'll get more gameplay over the next 2 E3 mate
>>342029496
They showed gameplay. The fight vs the troll thing was dark souls-esque (unlikely it will be anywhere near as hard, except maybe on the toughest difficulty, so don't be mistaken about my comparison.)
>Sony
There's your problem.
>>342029496
>Kratos becomes a step father, grows a full beard, becomes less angry and the game becomes a movie
>critics love it
At this point its basically confirmed meme magic is real.
>>342029496
Because the previous games had shit gameplay, they were button mashers without any of the finesse that other button mashers have.
>>342029496
That's what happen when you want to turn videogames into movies
I really really do not understand how people care about the story in God of War. It was always just an excuse to violently kill mythical creatures in cool locations.
David Jaffe would roll in his grave if he could see this "emotional story" bullshit.
>>342029905
>>342029918
I'm not saying they didn't show any gameplay. What I'm saying is that the game is getting hyped because of Kratos change of character and his interaction with the kid,
It shouldn't be
>I'm excited for the story, gameplay will follow
but
>I'm excited for the gameplay, story will follow
>>342029496
I thought that dad games were just a fad for 2013
>>342030138
>>342030209
You know, Im fine with the change of mythology. I was getting bored with killing the same creatures over and over again (minotaurs, centaurs, dogs, sirens, etc) but I can't accept what they have done with the game
not like gameplay changes much anymore
you can change combos and enemies, but ultimately still feels the same in either just a bit better or worse -- would need some bigger genre-changing alterations to mean much
story/characters/art/music/etc.. the only thing that make them feel like their own unique game
>>342030257
if you follow gaming media trends no one gives a fuck about mechanics or graphical fidelity it's about muhstory/feels
irregardless of the depth/complexity of the mechanics it makes more sense to go story heavy as an introduction
>>342029496
GoW was always shit though so whats the issue with them trying something new with it?
Looks like a mix of new Tomb Raider and the Last of Us.
Pass.
>>342030509
>irregardless
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
switch the word story with presentation mate
all about presentation
I want to choke every person who thought making GoW mature and cinematic was a good idea.
I was never a big fan of the series but holy shit they butchered the personality of the series harder than DmC.
>>342030138
>step father
Stop this
>>342030676
God of War was always cinematic. Are you retarded?
>>342030676
Okay they didn't go quite that far.
>>342030778
Not it wasn't.
Yes it was a subpar version of DMC, yes it had some cinematic moments, but it didn't look or play like TLOU.
>>342029793
>look mom, I posted another pol buzzword!
>/v/ spends years hating God of War, especially 3 since we can't pretend the PS3 had games
>they change the formula
>suddenly they pretend old games were good
/v/ should be one person
So we can all agree that the new God of War is just a TLoU ripoff right?
At the very least it's pandering to the TLoU audience and straying away from the things that made God of War what it was before, alienating the original audience.
This should be a huge shitstorm but everyone seems to suck Sony's dick for it.
TLoU:
>In the game you play a man, haunted by the past, with a big beard
>Your companion is a small kid that uses a bow
The new God of War:
>You play Kratos, who seems haunted by his past (more than before), who now has a big beard
>Your companion is a small kid that uses a bow
Last of Us gameplay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_IkD3WEy8M
nuGod of War gameplay:https://youtu.be/CJ_GCPaKywg?t=1m22s
How gameplay in God of War looked before:https://youtu.be/gkeN2lG4guY?t=1m
The camera angle alone gives it away instantly
>>342031003
That's not the point of the thread anon.
Even if the gameplay is better now, it's still the story that most people seem to care.
>>342030879
Yes it was. God of war was one of the games that opened up gamers to the idea of being "cinematic"
don't pretend like fully half the budget of the series isn't spent in seconds-long QTE sequences. God of War has a lot of outright gameplay, and it's good gameplay at that, but it was absolutely a bastion of the coming "cinematic" games
>>342029496
blame TLOU for kratos and his wife's son. the gameplay tries to be dark souls but with that camera it doesnt work.
>>342031003
I didn't know there were users this stupid on /v/ until this game. You do realize its possible for something to go from bad to worse right?
>>342030778
There's cinematic (as in big literally EPIC set pieces) and "cinematic" Sony shit where the camera doesn't help the gameplay, the game is constantly interrupted for scripted scenes and animations and the gamplay takes a back seat compared to the "story" and muh struggles and muh son.
>>342031069
>alienating the original audience
those people are all old now though and nobody liked ascension that formula is dead
>>342030868
DmC atleast had some resemblance of old DMC in it. You could take a quick glance at the gameplay and it actually still looked like DMC.
GoW is not only getting a complete tonal change like DmC, they are changing the meat and potatoes gameplay to the extent that it's no longer recognisable as God of War. Even fucking DmC had that.
>>342031130
>dark souls doesnt work with a good camera
so..this...is..the...power...of...fromdrones
>>342031003
would be solved it was on PC
>>342031181
I wouldn't get angry about something bad becoming worse though
it's bad.. I didn't care about it
look at all the threads with people getting triggered by niggers, theres your answer
>>342031232
I wanted to like it but for some reason they made the enemies really high health and I could not play the game without my arthritis forcing me to stop
btw this is your future /v/ enjoy your cuhrazy while you can
gow:a also seemed really uninspired though...like just no reason to exist
>>342030209
>David Jaffe would roll in his grave if he could see this "emotional story" bullshit.
https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/742578184260968448
He loves the fresh take on it. Spoilers, most people are not as jaded or delusional as 4Chan posters.
>>342031453
>4Chan
>defending cinematic movie game shit
poetry.
>>342031181
>bad to worse
but /v/ is literally garbage at action/fighting games dubbing them buttonbashers and while gow was probably on the most casual of the action genre it now seems to have been influenced by souls deliberate pacing (/v/ game of the forever) games but since it's an exclusive it gets shit on
>>342029496
Well GOW3 gameplay was shit so you know it will be better already.
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
After Witcher 3 release.
>>342029496
the small gameplay we've seen already looks better than the hack and slash shit it was before
and the story seems better as well
>>342029496
Basically when given the choice between
>Should we be more like movies/television
>Should we be more like board games
The major studios went with the movies because they're more popular.
>Game is being made by Corey Balrog who made the best God of war and introduced the most gameplay mechanics in the series
>has repeatedly stated that people already expect great gameplay from God of war so he thought he'll show the story this time as a change of pace
>/v/ spergs out and calls it shit nonstop
So when the game comes out and it turns out to be amazing, I guess the shitposting will continue because some of you have already wasted a year or two insulting the game nonstop to not leave it alone just like every other game /v/ has shat on.
>>342031003
While the trend among journalists praising this game irks me, I'm actually quite happy to see this happen to God of War. I'm pretty salty about the series and what it did to action games -- killing NG and DMC for a long time and possibly forever -- so to see it devolve into a The Last of Us clone makes me think it will no longer plague the genre. Also, its fans have to watch the series they love crumble into dust, and that's pretty satisfying.
>>342031607
How the fuck is it anything like the Souls games?
It looks crap, but I picked up 3 remastered today and either that game was shit or the series is worse than I remember anyway.
No chance I ever touch 4 though. Any game with a walk and talk for 10 minutes section can fuck off.
>>342029496
>MGS5
>best gameplay of the series
>/v/ hates it cause of the story
>>342031681
>>342030954
What the hell are you talking about? It's far from being a buzzword.
Kratos isn't nu-male though.
>>342031681
You're happy to see a franchise killed for no actual reason? Great, good job.
>no jump button
Game is fucked
Why is no one mad that TWO black guys have/are playing a white guy?
>>342029496
Because you can't really judge the gameplay based on the little we've seen, but the differences in character that Kratos shows are much more obvious and say a lot more since Kratos as a character has been established for a long time?
>>342031637
>the small gameplay we've seen already
the small gameplay you've seen already looks like mashing x repeatedly with no actual gameplay. explain how that's better than gow 1-3?
there is no action in the teaser that showed combat beyond mashing X or rolling out of the way and then mashing X then doing a QTE.
Why does /v/ want to pretend the GOW games were bad? Is it because they were popular?
did you guys know the beatles are good too? When I was in high school I figured the beatles must suck, because they were so popular. Sometimes, when things are popular, it's actually because they are good. Who knew?
Casuals.
Despite how "accessible" the previous GoW games were, they were STILL too difficult (or video gamey) for them. Now a hack-and-slash for beginners has become the only genre casuals can handle, a third-person, narrative-driven, cinematic experience.
>>342031527
My phone auto corrected the capitalization. Sue me.
The original games were garbage, it's really fucking ironic that the only reason anyone would play GoW over something like DMC is because of the cinematic casual story telling QTE bullshit and now the new game is getting flak on here for doing what the original games did but not trying to be a Japanese action game and failing at it. Even if the new game sucks at least it tried to make things better instead of rehashing the same not good formula over and over again like the last fucking 6 GoW games.
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>>342030954
>pol
This is how we know you're not from around here. Fucking R*dditors.
>>342031309
poor reading comprehension or simply shitposting? I wonder.
>>342031787
>introducing gameplay in movies
that's the problem here
>>342031910
>it because they were popular?
Stop reading there.
Fuck off retard. GOW has always been a mediocre action game, new one is going to be far better.
>>342031939
>posting on 4chan from your phone
i wish all of you would die. you're the drones who sit there looking at your phone no matter what is happening in the world around you
you honestly represent the death of the human race
>>342031868
I stated my reason. It's like watching the man who killed my family fall into a woodchipper. Why would I not be happy about that?
>>342029496
also you follow shit media outlets
>>342031129
there was a difference in GoW though. at least in 1, 2 and 3, especially in 1 and 2, the bigger more cinematic QTEs were placed alongside the full gameplay/action sequences in such a way that it involved the player. you felt like you were doing that, which is part of why scenes like the one where you're moving the two giant horses is fucking badass and sticks to the mind.
in that regard i feel it's kind of unfair to blame GoW for the "go through this horde of enemies then watch a 5 min movie, rinse and repeat" crap we see nowadays.
Even from a story standpoint
what is impressive about the story?
teaching your wife's son how to hunt?
what relevance do the norse monsters even have?
it really seems like they are just there, what did Kratos do to them/vice versa?
But why there is no female Kratos?
>>342032076
I am in a bar killing time before my friends get here. Go fuck yourself retard.
>>342029496
"Gaming media" is pure cancer
>>342029496
because the gameplay shown is nothing revolutionary
it looks ok
looks like what you would expect from a god of war game
it's not that no one gives a fuck about the gameplay, it's just that it doesn't stand out
if it ends up being shit, people will cry about it
>>342029496
>press X to win
Oh man, it's a real shame we aren't having deep conversations about that
>>342031637
>and the story seems better as well
We went from an angry guy who kills gods to a depressed guy who teaches his wife's son how to use a bow?
How is that better?
>>342032134
Bare jugs would cause a feminist outcry.
>>342031923
Oh shut the fuck up. GOW is dogshit and casual compared to far better games like NG, Bayonetta, MGR, or DMC. I have never gone back to play a GoW, they're boring.
Nier Automata looks 100x better than any older GOW too.
>>342032134
These are the REAL questions that need to be asked.
>>342032168
TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE AT THE BAR, MORON
YOU FUCKING THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR TO SIT THERE LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE ***AT A BAR***
YOU ARE THE EXACT FUCKING REALITY OF WHAT I WAS POSTING ABOUT
>>342032076
Which is better than doing the same thing on the computer.
>>342032134
>all those dad games
where are the mom games anyway?
>>342032134
>What is Heavenly Sword?
>>342029496
After Witcher 3 won and Last of Us won GOTY it should be obvious the industry doesn't value gameplay anymore.
>>342032218
Who wrote that drivel?
I want to kill them in an excruciating manner.
>>342032134
Kratos is gender neutral
>>342032371
that indeed felt like the closest to what a female kratos / game would feel like
she was also the shittiest character in her game with every one else being absolutely awesome
>>342032127
They obviously kill his son. Trouble is they do this half parsed stuff before hand and you're expected to care JUST because it's a kid. Even though there's zero development. Same as TLOU or that awful Dead Island trailer.
>>342032436
Mike Splechta
>>342031607
How the fuck is it soulslike at all?
Stop spouting this shit
>>342031272
In terms of gameplay, it's probably less of a change than GoW is undergoing (That's not saying much), but in terms of tone and story it's probably an even bigger departure.
This new God of War at least feels like a natural extension of GoW's story after 3, even if they're focusing way heavier on it than before.
>>342030879
>Not it wasn't.
>yes it had some cinematic moments
so if it had cinematic moments it was cinematic
this new god of war isn't a walking simulator, it was just an intro and he walked for 2 minutes or so before enemies appeared, and then there was a lot of fighting
>>342032083
No, I got that. It's just that what you sense was shockingly stupid.
>>342032375
TLoU has less than 3 hours of cinematics in a 15 hour long game. You. Are. A. Faggot.
>>342032076
The human race isn't worth saving.
>>342032535
since it's gow and any kind of bullshit can happen visiting hell or whatever, I hope we at lest won't go on a quest to.. revive.. him
>kratos' character looks more interesting
>it's kratos, but washed out and with a neckbeard
ehhhh??
>>342031787
This. Some of /v/ has legitimate complaints but a vas majority are just contrarian retards. They learn eventually.
>>342032371
A pulpy pile of shit
>>342032365
mother games?
The God of War games never had good gameplay so maybe they just assume it's going to be more of the same.
I'm excited for both. I may still be excited when it releases in 2 years.
>>342032829
>The God of War games never had good gameplay
>le it was never good maymay
>>342032732
neckbeards are in vogue.
>>342032365
>start game
>MC already confirmed to have been fucked by the patriarchy
>>342032083
Because God of War didn't kill the other two series you listed.
Capcom killed DMC, Team Ninja killed Ninja Gaiden.
God of War was always more popular, but it had no impact on why those two series are now dead nor did it have any impact on how DMC and NG played.
The genre they belong to also never really had a whole lot of games and the ones that didn't copy God of War copied DMC(Like Castlevania did before the western reboot)
If you are going to hate God of War do hate it for the right reasons.
>let's take a successful and iconic IP/Series and change it 100% but keep the characters to appeal to a broader audience
>surprised original fans are upset
Why not just make a new IP instead of alienating the already existing fanbase?
Why does this keep happening?
DmC, RE4, RE7, ME2, Dead Space 3, and etc
>>342032309
What are you, 12? Do you think a bar is a party? That people go to random bars to socialize and interact with the "community"? People are here to drink and play video poker. I'm not gonna go schmaltz my way next to some 65 year old casino clerk who is trying to forget about her shitty job in a vain attempt to fill some status quo that doesn't exist. You're an idiot.
>>342032703
Most of that "gameplay" is walking forward while characters talk.
>>342032968
Because the existing fanbase is terrible
>game's gonna be in the style of nu-raider
lol and people are excited for this
>>342032972
You are hanging out in the wrong bars then
>sonyshills trying to defend games
Don't you have 10 seconds of Spider-man gameplay to be hyping up instead?
>>342032703
>this shit again
TLOU is not cinematic because of its actual cutscenes. It's cinematic cause it hides more cutscenes behind "gameplay".
>>342032902
There has never been a good God of War game. It's awful character action knock off trash that some western idiots copied (poorly) from Japan. If you feel otherwise, you're just another braindead sonypony Mexican. Sorry.
>>342032968
>Original fans are X amount of people
>Market grows larger
>Suits and developers realize that there is potential for more if they pander to the larger audience
>Throw away old fans in an attempt to gain more money
>Use well known IP to have a strong start no matter how the end product actually will be
It's very common and will continue to happen as long as the industry keeps growing.
There is no way around it andthey never cared for you in the first place. Don't even have to bring up artistic integrity
>>342033019
>>342033148
Leave it to neckbeards to not know about walking and talking.
Have you pathetic virgins even left your parent's basement in the last 10 years?
>>342033119
It's 3 PM. I'm not here to plow some bar slag, I'm here to hang out with my friends and drink.
>>342032968
>RE4
This one was the original director realizing the series was going in an action direction and changing the camera/gameplay to match. Probably shouldn't have been a numbered entry in retrospect but that's marketing.
>>342031787
>walk around in the vast emptiness
>kidnap some people
>stop these tanks for who knows what reason
It had like 3 good moments. There was no reason for doing anything and nothing to compel you onward. The presentation felt cheap and tacky too. It was just all round crap. I'll take MGS1 any day of the week. Gameplay us nothing without atmosphere.
>>342032972
>I've never gotten laid from a bar before
ftfy
>>342032902
It wasn't. If you actually think it had really good gameplay you're a fucking pleb.
God of War has always been the dudebro normie hack and slash QTE fest and butt of many DMC/Ninja Gaiden jokes.
Why suddenly people on /v/ pretend to be original GOW fans and also pretend to be offended when they change something? No tears is shed with the death of GOW IP. The dudebro target audience has moved to cinematic story based TPS, so will GOW. Back in the days dmitting you like GOW is like admitting you like Madden or Cowaduddy on /v/.
You guys are generating fake outrage and making real fans of butchered IP like DMC, Metroid or Tomb Raider looks bad. These people have legitimate complaints, you guys GOW """"fans"""" don't.
>>342033294
>is a feature
>>342032661
>and then there was a lot of fighting
compared to old gow? not that much
>>342029496
Because Sonyggers love movies more than games
Did everyone miss the fact that Kratos' rage meter fills almost to 100% during the scene where he's chastising the boy for shooting more quickly?
He literally almost totally lost control and killed the boy right there, for failing a bow shot. Kratos is basically the embodiment of PTSD style rage. I think it's quite interesting what they're doing with the world and character
however the game will obviously suck. The last bastion of people who care about "Gameplay" is games like dota or hopefully quake champions
>>342032956
>Capcom killed DMC, Team Ninja killed Ninja Gaiden.
You can use this logic to defend anything popular ruining genres. "Activision and CoD didn't ruin shooters, the companies that copied them did." Companies go where the money is, and if the money is in lowest common denominator garbage that gets popular because of marketing, they're going to copy that. Sure, some of the blame goes to the companies, but it's only natural for a corporation to want to make money, and you can blame a dumb popular game and the company that made it for even existing too, because if they didn't exist, things would have gone on as normal.
>>342033231
>>342033374
samefag
>>342029496
Why are you worried about gameplay in a fucking God of War game?
It's literally Press square with a shitty camera: the game
They could do anything and it'd be better than GoW 1 through Ascension.
>>342033386
God of War came out in like 2003 or something when Call of Duty was the best shooter on the market.
>>342033386
I know one normie GoW fan who was super excited for GoW3 back then (when I was like huh? who cares), then he also played TLoU loved it, and now he's super excited for the new GoW
I guess he's happy
>>342033386
I like GoW and I liked quite a few Madden games
Thinking that there's this "untouchable" class of games that you "can't like" makes you the normies, anon. I have played video games since 1985, I have contributed to the industry,I have been a reviewer, I have been a developer. And I love GoW and I lvoed some Maddens.
A lot of you here seem to have this idea that you can dictate reality based on waht you think popular opinion here on /v/ is...Guess what? Popular opinion is popular opinion, and /v/'s popular opinion is wrong FAR more often than right
Either make your own decisions, make your own judgments, or don't open your mouth.
>>342033586
u tryed
>>342033502
>Quake Champions
don't make me laugh. It looks like it's going the "class-shooter" way and Overwatch already has that covered
>>342032968
Fans don't mean anything
End of the day what matters is money.
Noone gives two shits about you, regardless of what the PR people tell you.
Devs and Producers only care about money, did you honestly think people go into gaming because it's a passion? Fuck no. They go into for the money. They want to make a big hit and then milk it into the ground. They will make anything and everything as long as it will sell.
GoW becoming a TLoU cut and paste "cinamatic story" game says more about the gaming population than it does the devs. This is what is popular now. The focus is one what sells, not the gameplay. Look at Capcom, take RE7 for example. They claim its roots only to shit on you and make it a Outlast clone. Thats whats popular, so thats what will be made.
Grow up and stop being entitled, as much as people claim its a meme, its now the truth. Devs owe you nothing. You supported their franchise before, cool? You're just a spec of dirt beneath their heels.
the fuck
he looks like ass
>>342033752
>it looks like bluh bluh
you'd have to be stupid and not part of the quake era to think it wouldn't have real quake modes such as ctf, CA and ffa, which are already confirmed. sorry, you might have to try a little harder to hate this game before you've played it.
I like story.
I like gameplay.
I'd prefer they were both good.
I can forgive a game for having a bad story of it has good gameplay. I can forgive bad gameplay if it has a good story. I guess I'm a faggot.
>>342033880
They said that they are pandering to players on every skill-level, which means that it's gonna be casualized shit
The gameplay seems like something between ryse and bamham, it will suck ass so hard but it will also get a shit ton of praises from the press and casual audience because muh interactive entertainment is not about the gameplay as the video games were.
This E3 was a trainwreck but at least Nier Automata looks like a solid game so it seem that vidya is not totally dead.
>>342033424
it was just the intro section you dingus
it's where they have to establish the story and the characters
there will certainly be sections later where you will fight more
why do people panic so easily?
they introduced the fucking game with that trailer
of course they picked a cinematic moment, because it's going to be the first impression people will have of the game
>>342033983
>I can forgive bad gameplay if it has a good story. I guess I'm a faggot.
You are
It looks overly scripted like many of the new Naughty Dog games which I'm really not a fan off(multi-player in UC and TLoU is fun tho)
but at the same time I am a fan of Norse mytho and Nordic Viking settings
so I guess it should be worth a rent
>>342033817
>tfw completely balded but beard still growing like no tomorrow, and skin very pale from never going outside
literally me
People who say God of War was never good are the same retards who say Halo was always shit and are just generally meme-spouters.
God of War may not have compared to DMC3 or Bayonetta, but it was a hell of a lot better than all the story-focused crap we have now. The games had fairly deep combat, puzzles, and nice environmental design.
>>342033386
Regardless of if it being casual or not it sets a terrible precedent. If this sells well, what's to stop sony from changing their other IPs?
Will Jax and Daxter be revealed to be closeted homosexuals and you go on an adventure of self discovery and accepting yourself for who you are? And Jax and Daxter 4 be a walking simulator detailing said story?
Thats what I was thinking and why I dont give a shit about this at all.
>follow NPC down path
>scripted as fuck "gameplay" with claustrophobic camera
>let me just take away control now to show you something super cool!
>>342029496
>gameplay
PRESS X TO SPARTAN RAGE!
>>342030138
Critics love movie games because they pander to them. They're easily digestible, look nice, aren't very difficult, and have a cohesive straight forward narrative.
>>342030209
Agreed, the story was always dumb as fuck. I loved the gameplay. The new setting looks cool, but the short gameplay clip from the trailer looks awful, what is it, some sort of behind the shoulders third person brawler? It looks like Gears of War without guns.
>>342030138
>step father
>ignoring the fact that everyone is talking about its dufferent approach to gameplay
so igniting flame wars is allowed now?
>>342029496
Why do you care what gayming sites say?
>>342034107
>renting games
what is this, 1999?
>>342033564
Do explain where God of War had an impact on DMC then.
Because it sure as fuck wasn't changing DMC's game design for the story presentation, or adding in platforming, or QTEs.
Even when they handed DMC to Ninja Theory it didn't become God of War, it became a simplified shit version of DMC with a horrible story. It still resembled DMC, not God of War
Ninja Gaiden also did not take anything from God of War.
Even in your post you said:
>but it's only natural for a corporation to want to make money
If God of War existed or not the same thing would have happened because the company wanted to make more money.
And for
>You can use this logic to defend anything popular ruining genres. "Activision and CoD didn't ruin shooters, the companies that copied them did."
Yes, the ones that lazily aped what's popular is to blame more than what is actually popular.
Not defending CoD, but it is obvious that something like CoD or WoW became it's own thing that can't have it's success copied yet people still keep trying it.
>>342034389
got a problem?
>>342034139
>God of War may not have compared to DMC3 or Bayonetta
explain to me how it didnt compare
because pedantic combo stringing isnt something im interested in. there's a reason why DMC is a niche series and GoW is one of the best selling series of all time
more complex doesn't mean better. I thought DMC games were bad because the enemies are the worst HP sponges of all time.
What's up with all the faggots on /v/ thinking they aren't casuals?
GoW has always been an entry beat 'em all game, and the story was shallow as shit on purpose.
Get off your high horses, you fucking nerds.
>>342029496
LET'S HAVE GOD OF WAR (THE SAME SHIT) X 4
SQUARE SQUARE TRIANGLE XDXDXD
Guys, the biggest problem is that axe. The blades were fun and unique. And axe is lame and unoriginal.
>>342034068
every intro in old god was some badass fight, hydra, statue, poseidon and even that sister in ascension. this one started like tlou, looks like tlou and will stay like tlou. this was not intro, this is gameplay we will gave for the entire game, from start to end fuck you
>>342034614
as opposed to
walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, x, walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, x walk forward, walk forward, walk forward right?
>>342034630
You don't even know the extent of its power. And how the fuck is a boomerang-axe unoriginal, you turd?
Change is good.
>>342029496
only retards write about video games for a living
>>342034565
There's a reason why DMC is a niche series and GoW is one of the best selling series of all time
Yes, because DMC has difficutly and GoW doesn't. It's just square simulator.
>>342034420
He's saying that DMC clones would have been better than God of War clones.
Gameplay takes effort. Watching a story doesn't. Everything that takes effort or skill is looked down upon outside of sports. We truly are the last of us.
>>342029496
Video games became a normie meme.
>>342029793
nu-males wish they had that much testosterone
>>342033502
I'm betting it's auras wrath style where the rage is basically the enemies health, you need to fight until rage is high enough then that will prompt the killing animation.
Also I just want to say god of war has always had shitty game play, so any changes have to be an improvement by default. I don't see how anyone can defend mindless 2 button beat em up combos. You can play with your eyes closed and still win
>>342029496
>people passionate about something make a lot of money from it
>jews see it as an opportunity to make money
>jews have no idea what made said thing good
>try to appeal " to a larger audience" to make money
>make bland turd with no inspiration as result
>oversaturate the market
>it's not impossible for people who are passionate about said thing to get recognition to sell their product
That's what happened to every entertainment medium. No one is free from the hungering jew.
>>342034614
>>342034139
>the new thing is bad so the old thing is good now
Gow was never good.
>>342034729
>Change is good.
did you already changed your gender you massive faggot?
>>342033386
The fact that GoW was for casuals in the first place only makes the genre change worse.
Sony has made a beginner friendly franchise even easier.
>>342034901
>don't support new abomination
>devs say "lol guess noone liked it"
>>342034614
Because a movie is so much better.
>>342034773
why would i want difficulty out of a single player action game?
see when you come to /v/ you get the worlds worst autists about whatever genre or series
but me as a normal person...i just never found dmc fun, at all. whatsoever. I rented all 3 of the first games and i never had fun because the enemies take 30 minutes to kill
japanese game design is just bad. a game being easy doesnt make it bad, just because a hard game exists in the same genre.
the hard game wasn't fun. and the character you worhsip as being "cool" is basically the worst of late 90s goth anime "cool" tropes. he's laughable. just so you understand.
>>342034614
xxxyyy
you will get sucked
>>342034389
I rent from gamestop all the time. Abuse the fuck out of that no questions asked return policy
>>342034226
No, critics love movie games because they are not able to play actual games.
>>342034648
god forbid they do something different
times change
if you can't see that they just wanted to show an emotional trailer to make a good first impression and actually think that the whole game is gonna be like TLOU you are legit retarded
literally
>>342035251
What are you talking about? Fill a brother in
>>342032076
Don't forget your trench coat on the way out the door.
>>342034987
>did you already changed
Retards in charge of english. I'm now aware you're just dumb as shit.
>>342035207
>why would i want difficulty out of a single player action game?
Here's the first of the (You)s you're fishing for.
>>342034773
only DMC 1 was hard
>>342030138
That's what happens when tons of CGI makers get fired
>>342035386
stop deluding yourself, this is how entire game will look like
>>342034786
Same shit different toilet.
You can't blame the original game for being popular, you can blame people who try to copy it's success without even trying.
>>342035386
So the game is going to change engine after the intro and suddenly have gameplay?
>>342035462
Can you answer the question instead of just repurposing an idea that was never yours?
I play multiplayer games for challenge. I play games where I play against "myself" for challenge, like racing games.
Why would I want to play against AI monsters for challenge? That's for FUN.
Now this is going to seem like a (you) seeking statement but it's honestly real..People who play single player games for challenge are people who can't handle fighting humans, or themselves.
It's like this: More and more young men, for reasons that no one cares to study because society doesn't care about young men, have committed mass shootings in recent years. Every time these mass shootings occur, in an effort to create yet another pop cultural icon, the media delves into every aspect of the killer's life to run their news piece. As these killers are almost uniformly young men, they tend to have interests such as video games, which are popular among that particular demographic.
As they continue to build this disgusting human being into the next Kim Kardashian, they delve into the Killer's life for clues as to what pushed them over the edge. Seeing that they liked video games, the media repeatedly brings them up as the reason for the shootings as video games aren't popular among older people and pretty young women, the demographic that makes up most reporters.
Those in the industry feel threatened by these accusations and, as a defense mechanism, try to push their games as art, hoping to find a legal means of keeping the government from censoring their most profitable type of game (1st person shooters). Movies and television are seen as artistic mediums, and what is widely regarded as the most important element of those mediums is character and story. So, to make their games more like movies and television, more games focus on story instead of allowing the players agency.
This is why in the new god of war, a game previously about killing massive amounts of monsters, you now have long, on-rail segments with focus on Kratos and his family instead of killing monsters.
tl;dr-- The media.
>>342035581
it had gameplay
gr8 b8 m8
>>342035207
>japanese game design is just bad
You couldn't say a more false statement.
I like it
Are we even sure you'll play Kratos and not the son? The fact that only the kid gets experience while playing makes me think the intro is just like the Intro in TLOU except the da dies
The gameplay-to-story golden ratio varies from genre to genre, but I agree, focusing on Kratos' character over the game itself is silly.
Reminds me of the hype campaign for FFXV that was all about how great it was that the game was about going on a roadtrip with your bros
As if that constituted a good premise for a JRPG in any way.
>>342034420
In terms of specifics, not much. DmC took R3+L3 for super mode, NG3 got QTEs, but that's basically it. But both it and NG3 took from GoW not specifics, but general simplification. They wanted bombastic, easily flashy games with simplified controls and movesets, because that's what GoW was and that's where the money was.
>If God of War existed or not the same thing would have happened because the company wanted to make more money.
This is not true, they would have continued making technical action games because that's what was selling and was popular. But because GoW happened, and got even better numbers, the companies got greedy and aped it. You can say something like GoW would have happened anyway, but you can't know for sure, and regardless, GoW did happen and that's the one to blame.
Do we have to go through this? Is it newfags, shitposting, or anti Sony? I don't understand because GoW has always been mediocre compared to many other action titles. It was never particularly good at anything besides being entertaining for a playthrough at most.
>>342035407
Gamestop has a 7 day return policy for used games. So buy a used game, play it and then return it before the week is up, then buy a new game or if you didnt finish yet just buy the same one at a different store and do the same thing a week later. I basically use gamestop as an open line of credit
>>342035704
.........Right, that's why japanese games are at the forefront of industry innovation in the past 10 years.
Go ahead and name a single one except dark souls that has mattered. In ten years. A japanese game that has honestly mattered in ten years other than souls.
there isn't one.
>>342035789
>It's a shitposter pretending to be an oldfag episode
>>342029496
Even Ascencion is better than this, what happened?
>>342029496
>342029496
>these comments are real
>>342035868
Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain was getting 10/10 and GOTY awards.
>>342035868
Define "mattered". I get the feeling it means to you "something casual enough even a retard like me can enjoy it".
>>342035615
You can master skills in a singleplayer and have fun doing it.
>>342035207
Because difficulty is a path to fun. And enemies in DMC take longer to kill because you're supposed to enjoy yourself exploring the game's combat systems. Basically it's not about efficiency in killing things it's about pushing yourself and styling.
If all someone wants to do is clear the game there are countless ways to abuse the system and completely destroy those "thirty minute enemies".
>>342035898
Well meemed
Anyone have that one comic about the dev and the consumer about
>This game doesn't appeal to me, can you please change it so it does
?
>>342035868
>says Japanese design is bad
>changes argument to being about "mattering"
You could run for office.
>>342035386
I wonder how most people would react if we changed Last of Us to a crazy over the top game where you slayed hordes of zombies with a melee weapon that spit acid?
I wonder how people would react if Super Mario was now a first person sci fi shooter?
Yes, change is good. But you need to set limits. A good way of change can be seen in Zelda games, where they have different visuals and mechanics (3 day cycle in MM, sailing in WW, etc) and they keep changing that, while the core idea (action adventure, puzzles, types of temples) stay the same. What God of War did is a completely radical change that doesn't retain anything from older games, hence it could be a new franchise.
>>342036065
Sure you can, but do you think that's for the vast majority of people, even hardcore gamers?
I am morre hardcore than 99.99% of people on /v/ and always have been. I have been a pro gamer, I have reviewd games professionally, I have work included in retail games.
I don't like DMC and I like GoW. One game is pedantic and not fun, one game is fun. Why am I wrong?
Is it wrong to like a genuinely cool western protagonist over a protagonist that basically represents japanese males' desire to be female? I am really not trolling here. If you understand bishou you understand it to be true.
>>342035615
>People who play single player games for challenge are people who can't handle fighting humans, or themselves.
You know what's great about single-player games? Never getting stabbed in the back by a guy standing in front of me because of shitty netcode. I never hved to worry about one of my enemies being able to kill me from anywhere with a headshot because of an aimbot, I never had a boss freeze the game and wait for me to leave because I was beating him, I never had to deal with AI gaming the system and killing me with weapons that could do triple my life total in a single swing with armor that could absorb all of my damage, I never had to stop playing because some mook decided to spam report on me because he was upset I beat him.
AI monsters are fun because there are rules and the AI has to follow them. Multiplayer games aren't fun because people can't handle losing and will do all sorts of stupid bullshit things so they "win".
>DUDE GAMEPLAY IN A VIDEO GAME
Video games shouldn't be focused on the gameplay anymore if they want to be taken as a serious medium in the world of arts. The story is what matters now.
God of War 4 shitposter checklist
It was never good
It was already causal
Who cares, it was stale
I didn't like gore anyways
I didn't like greek mythology
So? Who cares, series was dead
IT IS HIS SON!!!
>>342036403
>I have been a pro gamer, I have reviewd games professionally, I have work included in retail games.
Oh so you're a cancerous faggot.
>>342034614
Yes.
God of War was a very fucking basic action game.
This is less.
Do people genuinely not understand why everyone is pissed off?
It is moving in the wrong direction.
>>342036403
>I am morre hardcore than 99.99% of people on /v/
t. casual faggot who hates challenging games. You're wrong because you don't have an argument outside of "I don't like it".
>>342029496
I don't see how people can get behind the story. All I could think about when Kratos talked to that kid was that puzzle were you had drag some screaming bitch into a death machine to progress. I don't see how I'm supposed to relate to like this character. When he was just a death machine and the game was all about that yeah that's fine but if you're gonna do this Last of Us shit it helps to have a main character who wasn't created from the ground up to be an unstoppable inhuman one-man army.
I would be a lot more interested if it wasn't Kratos again. If they're gonna move the series to a new mythology they should have come up with a new character altogether
>>342035207
>Japanese game design is just bad
>>342036494
10/10 post
thank you for actually caring enough to express your thoughts and not just be like "lol ur retard i meme u"
the level of discussion on /v/ has dropped to nothing
but anyway, you are basically arguing in the same way that i referred to racing games. playing against yourself, not the AI
But that isn't the argument that most people make for DMC, the argument they make is "the game is harder to clear than GOW and that means it is more valuable"
it is not aboue competing with thesmelves to get better, it is simply about the game being objectively harder. So you are different than the people i am chastising
>>342036550
so you actually hated it and still played it?
>>342036341
>I wonder how most people would react if we changed Last of Us to a crazy over the top game where you slayed hordes of zombies with a melee weapon that spit acid?
>I wonder how people would react if Super Mario was now a first person sci fi shooter?
there is no drastic change in the new god of war game like you are describing
you might as well ask "what if they turned god of war into a point and click adventure"
well they didn't
it's still an action game
>>342035768
>They wanted bombastic, easily flashy games with simplified controls and movesets, because that's what GoW was and that's where the money was.
It's true that is where the money was, but NG and DMC did not simplify controls.
Even NG3 kept the sword having it's full moveset and that was made to get a broader audience.
I feel that your argument sort of falls apart when you said:
>they would have continued making technical action games because that's what was selling and was popular
Since they still were making technical action games.
A thing you have to realize is that even when DMC was the one paving the way for 3D action it still had a couple of clones.
They would never have tried to copy any sort of depth that could be gained from DMC.
It probably also doesn't help that even with God of War being the most popular, the whole GoW clones died out when they saw MORE money was to be had in CoD clones.
If you are going to blame people for aping what's popular then they are going for what's actually more popular.
I still wouldn't blame the original successful game for what went wrong.
DMC and Ninja Gaiden still kept on going with what they had until towards the end because of stupid businessmen making stupid decisions.
And it felt like their decisions was based entirely around something you could blame on anything besides a single franchise.
I'd argue that the real fault was thinkingwestern gamers were too stupid for their games
>>342036670
>t. casual faggot who hates challenging games.
then why have I played racing games all my life while the only challenging games you've ever played are DMC?
>>342036846
You have a weird view of action game with all that walking talking and deer hunting.
>>342036589
>"we"
>"everyone"
Fuck off already
>>342031678
>So when the game comes out and it turns out to be amazing
I know that you're very proud of this game you've spent the past few years working on, but no one here wants to by your product. Don't speak to me of Kratos and his wife's son ever again.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jCIH5nf.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>342036589
>wants more
>hasn't mastered goat game yet
you play them for the story right?
>>342030138
enough with this cuck shit. Not everything conforms to your weird white boy fetish,
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
Most of the people covering the industry only use it as a mouthpiece for their agenda and devs/publishers treat consumers like absolute, shit because they can and will get away with it and make millions anyways.
>>342036947
missed the parts where he killed dudes?
jesus
talk about being in denial
>>342029496
I thought I was the only one who notice this. Like, where the hell are all the God of War fans? You mean to tell me everyone is ok with this change? What the fuck.
The end is near.
Why doesn't Sony try something like a new IP?
They're just treading water on their old IPs, Uncharted 4, new Ratchet and Clank and such. How fucking boring.
>>342036841
(you)
>>342036917
>racing games
>not casual as all fuck
Nice retarded assumptions too.
http://www.spieltimes.com/news/god-wars-official-story-setting-revealed/
In terms of game play they've only really talked about how it's going to be more personal, the camera is going to be closer to Kratos, and even if you're not holding a weapon you can just punch fuckers.
>>342034729
>Change is good
No, it's not. Change isn't inherently bad or good. It entirely depends on what kind of change it is. Change has to have a purpose; if you're going to take an existing element and replace it, then the replacement needs to be just as effective as what was there originally. Change just for the sake of change is a retarded concept.
>>342029496
He looks like a shitty generic viking painted white
>>342036960
>Gets some of the biggest attention at E3
>Praise all round
>"d...do people genuinely not understand why everyone is pissed off?"
>"i...it is moving in the w...wrong direction"
You're a fucking moron aren't you?
>>342036550
The biggest shitposter of all is the one deluding himself into thinking GOW was ever good to fuel his shitposting.
gow gameplay was always a piece of fucking shit, from a mashfest that is its combat system and up to insufferable platforming sections, boring qte and puzzles
maybe they will manage to at least get basic mechanics right this time even if it ends up being a BoD/DS clone with an AI buddy
>>342037101
thats not how you use that meme
>>342037127
Who could be behind this post?
>>342029496
The gameplay looked god awful. It was really fucking bad.
I can't believe people said this looked good.
>>342029496
>cucks are excited for God of War: My Wife'S Son edition
shocking.
>>342036403
>Kratos, a man that was so assblasted over killing his family that he killed the REST of his family and destroyed the world out of pure angst is "genuinely cool"
>Dante, a man who watched his family die and forced to kill his brother twice, but instead of letting it ruin his life bounced back and lives as a carefree demon hunter with a chick on each arm "represents Japanese males' desire to be female"
>>342037079
No I didn't miss that.
But its only half an action game now.
There can't be a good action game with unskippable boring parts.
Action games like that are meant to be replayed.
>series is button mashy, cinematic, and focuses on gory finishers
>series is now button mashy, cinematic, and focuses on gory finishers but with a different camera angle and higher quality
NOOOOO GOD OF WAR IS RUINED. THIS WAS THE EPITOMY OF ACTION GAMES, ANOTHER AMAZING SERIES DEAD!
>>342037148
its basically just the character with a beard - they didn't really change much in that aspect.
